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Monday, January 30

6:30 PM - 8:30 PM PST

Sapperton Pensioners Hall

318 Keary Street, New Westminster, British Columbia

Join Force of Nature on Monday, January 30th for a community forum on our transition to renewable energy.

Speakers include Rob Baxter of Vancouver Renewable Energy Co-op, Councillor Andrea Reimer, Ben West of the Great Climate Race, and keynote speaker Hereditary Chief and Elder Chief Phil Lane, member of the Ihanktonwan Dakota and Chickasaw Nations, and internationally recognized indigenous leader in human and community development.

The event will feature speakers on a variety of topics, from green job creation to solar energy, and will focus on how we can transition towards a clean energy based economy in the Lower Mainland.

The event is completely free, open to the whole family and the venue is wheelchair accessible. Bring a friend!


I was reading the Kinder Morgan thread and all the arguments going back and forth about the legitmacy of opposition and the safety of pipelines.  Of the general public very few people stay abreast of the details or even read articles like the following.:

Figures compiled by the National Energy Board show that in the past three years, incorrect operation — which covers everything from failing to follow procedures to using equipment improperly — has caused an average of 20 leaks per year. That's up from an average of four annually in the previous six years.....

Pipelines installed in the U.S. in the past five years have the highest rate of failure of any built since the 1920s, and human error is partially to blame, said Carl Weimer, executive director of the Washington-based Pipeline Safety Trust.

"A lot of new pipelines being put in the ground just aren't being installed right, or things don't get tightened up quite enough, so within the first year or two things fail,'' said Weimer....

In 2015, a Nexen Energy pipeline south of Fort McMurray, Alta. burst, spilling about five million litres of emulsion including about 1.65 million litres of oil near its Long Lake oilsands operation. The AER's investigation into the incident continues, but Nexen's preliminary conclusion was that the pipeline design was incompatible with the ground conditions, and wasn't installed properly.....

But even as companies make improvements on safety, Fleming said getting pipelines towards the higher safety standards of industries like airlines will likely require significant financial sacrifice.

"To be able to do that, you need to have a very cautious approach to doing work, and that's something that's hard financially,'' said Fleming. "It does have some cost implications that we are often very uncomfortable talking about.''

Regulations are pointless because to oil companies the only thing that matters is minimizing their costs and they will lie to do it. They will say that they will install properly, they will say that engineers have studied the land and deemed it safe. They would swear they had a deal with God if they thought we would believe it.

Decades of accidents have proven to people that oil companies cannot be trusted so it really doesn't matter what they say anymore. We know that they are lying and we know that government has been incapable of enforcing regulation and safety. 

Politicians and oil companies and corporations get away with tons of crap but Canada is still a democracy and politicians can be intimidated into submission if public determination is strong enough and the issue is specific enough. There are limits to the amount of violence the government can get away with towards it's own citizens especially if public sentiment is with the citizens on the issue. That is what kept police out of Occupy camps for so long.

The argument that pipelines are a federal jurisdiction therefore provinces must accept them misses the critical point that the people don't have to accept them. Civil disobedience physically prevents installation and there is a limit to how many citizens the government is willing to have arrested.

Energy East will not pass through Quebec because it is strongly opposed wherever it would physically pass through. The offer of jobs is a joke. As if we would accept jobs in exchange for our land and water being contaminiated by oil. (Please don't expect me to believe new pipelines will be safer.)

Nor is this NIMBYism because that would imply that I support pipelines elsewhere. I believe Burnaby can stop the Trans Mountain pipeline and I hope they do.

Every single argument proposed by pro-pipeline people pales in comparison to poisoning the land and water of Quebec. Arguments that oil can be transported safely are meaningless in the face of experience which has proven that neither oil companies nor governments can ensure the safe transport of oil through pipelines and they have lied about it for decades.

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Fortunately for the people of Quebec the Liberals need seats there more than they do in BC. 



kropotkin1951 wrote:

Fortunately for the people of Quebec the Liberals need seats there more than they do in BC. 

The federal Liberals are pushing for Energy East. It is the threat of separation that will stop them.

In the days after Trans Mountain was approved, Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr mused about using the police or defence forces to prevent violence during construction. He said those words were not intended as a warning to protestors.

They can't do that in Quebec.

They don't have the support of Couillard either and he is far more vulnerable to attacks from the PQ who would jump on him hard if he approved EE. 80 mayors have opposed it. 

I have another reason that I believe Couillard will never get on board. He wants Plan Nord.

Plan Nord is an economic development strategy launched by the government of Quebec in May 2011 to develop the natural resources extraction sector in the part of Quebec north of the 49th parallel. The plan, to be carried out over 25 years, would foster over C$80 billion in energy, mining, and forestry investments and create or consolidate 20,000 jobs a year for the duration.[1] The proposed plan, which has been described as "a potential centrepiece" of Premier Jean Charest political legacy has received the full support of the mining industry, the Crees and Inuit representatives but has been met with skepticism and downright opposition by the Innus and most environmentalists.[2]

That's where Couillard will spend his political capital.  He will use blocking fracking and Energy East to burnish his environmental credentials. He will claim that he blocks the really bad stuff so if he is okay with Plan Nord it must not be that bad. Plan Nord is central to plans for the economic development of Quebec. He would be stupid to flip on EE with such strong opposition and such little reward.

Quebec police could not be called upon by Carr. We have our own provincial and municipal police forces. That means Trudeau would have to send in the RCMP or "defence" forces. That's just a no go in Quebec. Protesters would be legion. Not just those against pipelines either. Sovereignists and nationalists would consider it a sacred duty to block a pipeline being forced through Quebec terriory by armed forces from Canada. Sending in Mounties or soldiers to force a pipeline through Quebec would result in an emergency referendum in which the yes side would probably win.

With 80 mayors opening declaring against it the protesters will know that the police will monitor not interfere and that Couillard won't push them to act.

That is what Trudeau knows about Quebec.

In BC he has Clark on his side and more of the pipeline is in the wilderness. The Burnaby region is where most of the protest is localized and the RCMP is the provincial police force and in some cases municipal as well. He blocked Northern Gateway and he is going to sink a bunch of money into marine protection along the coast. I'm still betting on citizens being able to stop it.


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one of the big pipeline companies in AB is called Seven Generations

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one of the big pipeline companies in AB is called Seven Generations

Wow, that's a pretty disgusting web site. I wish there were a hell, so that those people could be sent there.

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..quizzical was saying too. the name at the bottom of the the poster. seventh generation. :)

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..i'm shocked! absolutely positivley shocked!

North Coast Oil Tanker Ban Won’t Actually Ban Tankers Full of Oil Products on B.C.’s North Coast

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s November proposal to ban oil tanker traffic from B.C.’s north coast received kind reception on the west coast of Canada where the Heiltusk First Nation was still busy responding to a devastating diesel spill from the Nathan E. Stewart, a sunken fuel barge tug that was leaking fuel into shellfish harvest grounds near Bella Bella.

The tanker ban, however, won’t protect the coast from incidents like the Nathan E. Stewart from happening again, nor from the threat of future refined oil tankers passing through the same waters, according to a new analysis by West Coast Environmental Law.

Reviewing the tanker ban proposal, which has yet to be passed as legislation, West Coast identified numerous loopholes and exclusions that allow for the continued transport of oil on B.C.’s north coast via foreign fuel barges and even, potentially, in supertankers full of refined oil products like jet fuel....


i hope you're being sarcastic.

i'm not surprised in the least.

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..yes. trudeau comes up a dollar short and a pound light every time.

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Anti Kinder Morgan TMX Panel on Nlaka'Pamux Territory,

The Traditional Nlaka'Pamux Gathering in "Merritt BC", on unceded Nlaka'Pamux Territory took place on January 22, 2017. This is the guest panel featuring Jody Leon from Secwepemc Nation and Christine Jack from St'at'imc Nation speaking about the impacts of Kinder Morgan's proposed Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project on their respective territories.

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Amid oil-spill fears, First Nations and cities are uniting to fight the Trans Mountain Expansion Project

Burnaby Mayor Derek Corrigan has been trying to stop Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain Expansion Project in court for years, unsuccessfully. Pipelines are a provincial and federal decision, even if local communities are taking the brunt of the environmental risk. But Corrigan has realized if he aligns with the fight of a local First Nation, the Tsleil-Waututh, his city’s voice can be heard through theirs.

Corrigan shared this sentiment in a small roundtable discussion I facilitated on the Tsleil-Waututh reserve in North Vancouver on Monday. I’m spending this week travelling part of the Trans Mountain oil pipeline and tanker route with Discourse Media and Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting. The goal is to hear the questions and concerns of people who will be directly impacted if the twinning of the pipeline from Alberta’s tar sands to Burnaby moves ahead, to help inform our reporting of the project.

The Tsleil-Waututh, whose traditional territory encompasses the project’s marine terminal and tanker route, are attempting to have the Trudeau government’s approval of the project overturned in court. They claim they were not properly consulted before the project was approved. The legal notion of consultation, as well as consent, concepts which stem from Indigenous peoples unique and pre-colonial relationship to the land and water, dominated much of the discussion.

And this idea of a municipality relying upon the unique land rights of a First Nation to protect their collective environmental and social interests, fostering local reconciliation, had to be my key takeaway from this discussion....


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When it comes to stopping Kinder Morgan, Tofino means business

This Earth Day, April 22, local businesses in B.C. are banding together against Kinder Morgan’s contentious Trans Mountain tar sands pipeline. Tofino companies are offering tours, selling microbrews, encouraging people to “surf for salmon” and serving up a taste of the coastal bounty that draws millions of tourists to the region every year. The aim? To pitch towards raising $500,000 for legal challenges launched by the Tsleil-Waututh, Squamish, and Coldwater First Nations that aim to stop Kinder Morgan. It is the same strategy that killed the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline.

On Saturday, outdoor adventure companies are offering tours of the rugged west coast with revenue going to the Pull Together campaign. Remote Passages Excursions, Clayoquot Wild! and Jamie’s Whaling Station are all donating Earth Day proceeds, while surfing school Pacific Surf Co is hosting a “Surf for the Salmon!” event. The Tofino Brewing Company and Common Loaf Bake shop are also giving a share of Earth Day earnings in support of the “Tofino Pulls Together” legal fundraising efforts. Clayoquot Action are also hosting a benefit screening of the documentary “Planetary” on April 22 at the Clayoquot Community Theatre.

It’s not radical to oppose a pipeline in a community whose existence is palpably threatened by climate change, but it’s still extraordinary to note the level of consensus against the Kinder Morgan project in this former logging boom town....


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Kinder Morgan’s climate denial is bad business


Shareholder revolt on climate risk

This month, Kinder Morgan shareholders will vote on a resolution that would require management to prepare “an assessment of the medium and long-term portfolio impacts of technological advances and global climate change policies.”

That might seem innocuous, but it has some not-so-hidden barbs.

The resolution notes that the signing of the Paris climate agreement in 2015 will likely mean increasingly stringent limits on greenhouse gas emissions and asks if – in light of potential new climate policy that reduces demand for fossil fuels – it still makes sense to invest billions to expand Canadian oil sands export capacity to the West Coast and Asia.

CalPERS, the California pension giant that owns almost 5 million shares in Kinder Morgan, is publicly calling on other shareholders to support the resolution. It will likely be joined by Blackrock, the world’s largest asset manager and one of the largest investors in Kinder Morgan, which is calling on all companies to assess climate risk.

The Kinder Morgan board of directors, on the other hand, has responded with a unanimous recommendation for shareholders to vote against the resolution. They argue that preparing an assessment of climate risk “may cause us to overstate the likelihood of certain risks, which could be detrimental to our business.”

They have two reasons to fear the question.

First, ongoing investigations into Exxon’s history of climate denial have made it painfully clear to corporate executives at fossil fuel companies that lying to your shareholders about climate-related risks can result in investigations and potentially liability for fraud. So this assessment can’t be a PR puff-piece.

Second, they know they won’t like the answers they get, based on Suncor’s recent example.

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Raise a Paddle 

May 8th – 16th: Resistance from the Pacific Islands to the tar sands.

In 2014, a group of Pacific Islanders led a blockade of the world’s largest coal port in Australia. Now, these Pacific Climate Warriors are headed to the Canadian tar sands.

Justin Trudeau’s recently approved pipelines will unleash catastrophic  climate change — for Pacific islanders this means rising sea levels threatening their homes, communities, and cultures. These pipelines clearly go against the promises Trudeau made to climate impacted communities and Indigenous peoples on the world stage.

That’s why the Pacific Climate Warriors are inviting Trudeau to join them in Vancouver to explain his broken promises. The Warriors  are also calling on people everywhere to stand with them, and stand with Indigenous peoples in Canada, to keep the tar sands in the ground.


May 14th – Water Ceremony in Metro Vancouver

The Tsleil Waututh  First Nation will host the Pacific Climate Warriors for a ceremony on the Burrard Inlet to honour the sacredness of water. We welcome you to join in, show your support and add your prayers.


May 16th – Speaking Event  in Vancouver

At this event,  powerful stories will be told by a dynamic panel of Pacific Climate Warriors and leaders in the Indigenous resistance to the tar sands. As well, there will be a premier of a mini-documentary showcasing the entire journey. Stay tuned for details on how to join the live stream.

..this is also a petition. please sign.

How can I support the Pacific Climate Warriors?

It is unacceptable for Prime Minister Trudeau to  expand the tar sands while simultaneously telling the world he is leading on climate change action. That's the message the Pacific Climate Warriors are bringing to Canada and to Prime Minister Trudeau.

Tell Prime Minister Trudeau that he needs to show up to the water ceremony in Vancouver on May 14th to speak to Pacific Islanders and First Nations about his broken promises.

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Chilliwack First Nations bands reject Kinder Morgan cash

Results of the April 22, 2017 Ts’elxwéyeqw Tribe referendum on whether or not to accept Kinder Morgan’s mutual benefits agreement. Of the 301 ballots cast, 167 voted to reject the agreement while 134 voted in favour. (Ts’elxwéyeqw Tribe)


“After four years of engagement and the request that leadership go to our membership and seek guidance on this important vote we have the results,” Jimmie said.

“We’ll start to develop our next steps and planning moving forward, but important that we know we have heard the voices of our people and this is the direction we will go in.”

Commodore said the reason why he and others opposed the agreement is not about the pipeline per se, but about the bigger picture.

“The anti-pipeline movement is not just about stopping a pipeline, it’s about transforming society, too,” he said. “We have to bring ecological sanity to our society. We just cannot continue along this road poisoning our land, our water, our air.”

As to the low turnout, effectively fewer than 10 per cent of eligible voters quashing the agreement, Commodore agreed it’s not good.

“It shows there is work to be done,” he said, adding that it is hard to engage band members particularly when no direct threat is seen.

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How 'voices of industry' nearly drowned out Trudeau government's talks with First Nations

The federal government has been caught making false statements about how oilpatch partners tried to hijack its efforts to consult First Nations in British Columbia on marine protection in their territory.

Internal emails and notes obtained by National Observer show that Transport Canada denied the true nature of behind-the-scenes consultations with indigenous leaders in 2016, while Ottawa was reviewing three major pipeline projects: Enbridge's Line 3 and Northern Gateway projects, and Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain expansion.

Although Transport Canada initially said there was no discussion of the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline at a private meeting with First Nations in March 2016, it later admitted to providing "inaccurate" information to National Observer about this when confronted with evidence from the meeting.

The documents add a new twist to the saga of Enbridge's doomed Northern Gateway pipeline, as a group of the company's indigenous business partners, known as Aboriginal Equity Partners, reportedly consider a lawsuit against the Crown for rejecting the project without proper consultation.

The emails and notes, released by Transport Canada through access to information legislation, reveal that Enbridge's indigenous partners seized the opportunity presented at consultations on a crude oil tanker moratorium to push their financial pro-pipeline agenda.

In Vancouver on March 29, 2016, the partners warned federal officials that First Nations stood to lose up to $1 billion in economic benefits if the government finalized the moratorium, which would protect a pristine rainforest on the B.C. coast from crude oil tanker traffic generated by pipelines like Northern Gateway.

Two other participants in that discussion, including a representative of B.C.'s Heiltsuk Nation, complained that these indigenous pipeline partners dominated the meeting and prevented other First Nations from being heard. The partners are "the voice of industry" and "don't represent indigenous groups," they told Transport Canada staff at the time, according to the documents....

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..more from the piece above


Under Canada's constitution, the federal government has a duty to consult indigenous people on major decisions that may affect them.

In an effort to help satisfy these requirements however, some energy companies have found a legal way to engage First Nations on their projects without actually consulting all members of the communities, according to evidence found by VICE News and Discourse Media.

Enbridge and TransCanada Corp., for example, have offered large payments to hereditary chiefs in various communities, VICE reported last November, as a way to claim broad indigenous consent for their projects. Hereditary chiefs can fill some leadership roles within a community without being elected, but their ability to speak on behalf of a community in an official capacity is contested within First Nations.

Last August, VICE also reported that two such hereditary chiefs from the Haida Nation in B.C. were stripped of their titles by their community for secretly accepting deals to promote the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline. In this case, those deals included cash for to enhance community services and cultural activities.

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..a bob bossin video

Only one bear in a hundred bites, but they don't come in order

When I first gave this presentation at an Earth Day forum on oil tankers, so many people wanted a copy that we made this video. Thanks to Paul Grignon and Moonfire Studio ( If you like it, please pass it on. (More below)

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..while there is several points of interest in this post i highlight what i find pertinent to pipeline.

Beyond optics, towards politics: A report back from CLC Convention


Premier Rachel Notley arrived to celebrate achievements made by the NDP government in Alberta, but ended with a pitch for export-driven oil pipelines, the impact of which would undermine current efforts in Canada to meet global climate change targets. 


Thanks to grassroots organizing, the CLC took a clear position on a Palestinian-led human rights campaign for the first time in its history. It also joined the International Trade Union Confederation (representing 176 million workers worldwide) and other unions to send a clear message to Israel, and the corporations involved in Israel’s prison system.

In a related effort, union activists inspired by the Leap Manifesto organized a forum over lunch after Premier Notley addressed CLC Convention. Their intent was to discuss ideas that ensured no worker was left behind by climate change, and to seek alliances with energy workers in doing so. People wanted specific proposals for green jobs (beyond general concepts like “just transition”), and were concerned Premier Notley’s push for pipelines might divide union activists concerned about the climate crisis.

The Leap forum drew fifty participants, many of whom intervened later during the convention’s panel on green jobs. In that debate, Ken Smith (President of UNIFOR Local 707A, representing 6000 energy workers in Fort McMurray) declared he was “undecided” on pipelines, but was convinced “there are no jobs on a dead planet.” Carolyn Egan, President of the Steelworker Toronto Area Council, said “transition [to a new energy economy] is inevitable, but justice is not”.

Kim Fry, an elementary teacher activist in Ontario, declared it was time for unions to fight for a new energy future, and that starts by rejecting the expansion of fossil fuel infrastructure.

Interestingly enough, Fry ran into Premier Notley later that afternoon, and wrote about their conversation on Facebook:

This exchange demonstrates the importance of grassroots unionism, and how it can impact larger forces. When Premier Notley spoke at the Federal NDP Convention last year in Edmonton, her pipeline pitch earned a standing ovation. At the CLC Convention last week, it drew tepid applause.

Why? The work of climate justice campaigners is a major factor, along with the continued evidence of climate change. The climate drivers behind recent floods in Ontario and Quebec were on peoples’ minds, as were the deplorable conditions in many Indigenous communities impacted by fossil fuels projects. Delegates at the CLC Convention entered that context with grassroots organizing, and this contributed to a shift in opinions of Premier Notley’s plans for Alberta. Notley is now publicly campaigning to ensure the BC government doesn’t become a pipeline opponent.

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Trans Mountain IPO comes at awkward time for energy giant Kinder Morgan

Kinder Morgan's plan to raise money for its Trans Mountain expansion through an initial public offering could not come at a more awkward time.

In addition to ongoing protests and federal court challenges, a vote recount in B.C. could tilt the balance of power, giving the Greens or NDP a chance to bog down the $7.4-billion project. The recount begins Monday.

Alberta's securities regulator is also reviewing Kinder Morgan's regulatory filings upon a request from Greenpeace, who said it believes the documents overestimate growth in Asian oil demand and don't go far enough in disclosing climate change-related risks.

The energy giant faces a big hurdle in its goal of raising $1.75 billion in what would be one of the biggest IPOs ever on the Toronto Stock Exchange. It is expecting to complete the offering in the last week of this month.

Adam Scott, a senior campaigner with environmental group Oil Change International, said he took it as a sign that the company was struggling to raise funds when it scrapped plans for a joint venture.

"There's still substantial legal risk to the project," said Scott. "There's also reputational risk. I think that may be why there's no equity firms willing to step up and take a chunk.".....