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NorthReport

Canada's Tea-Partiers have to find some place to vent, eh!  Laughing

Petitions call for NDP MLA to resign in wake of pot T-shirt, Canada flag flip off posts  

http://globalnews.ca/news/1986424/petitions-call-for-ndp-mla-to-resign-i...

NorthReport

Alberta NDP insiders say path to Rachel Notley’s historic victory started long before election began

http://metronews.ca/news/edmonton/1363359/alberta-ndp-insiders-says-path...

jas

NorthReport wrote:
Canada's Tea-Partiers have to find some place to vent, eh!  Laughing

Petitions call for NDP MLA to resign in wake of pot T-shirt, Canada flag flip off posts 

While the pot thing is innocuous, it's still tacky optics. And the finger at the flag thing is worse. How would the party have allowed that to slip through? Wouldn't candidates be required to shut down all personal social media accounts? As a minimum precaution? This just seems like an incredibly stupid mistake.

quizzical

yep while millions if not billions over the years went to PC cronies, a drained heritage fund, no royalties collected and they wanna freak over pot pics on a tee shirt, and stupid youth actions, and whose to know....she might have beem saying "fuck you stehen harper" while looking at the flag and fingering. i know i have many times.

people stuck on stupid.

NorthReport

These guys are a bunch of dicks and Goss himself should step down - I wouldn't give these clowns an inch. Someone needs to pay the price for their blatant hostility and stupidity.

‘Time to work together’ say CEOs who warned against NDP

http://www.canada.com/news/alberta-politics/Time+work+together+CEOs+warn...

NorthReport
Brachina

NorthReport wrote:

These guys are a bunch of dicks and Goss himself should step down - I wouldn't give these clowns an inch. Someone needs to pay the price for their blatant hostility and stupidity.

‘Time to work together’ say CEOs who warned against NDP

http://www.canada.com/news/alberta-politics/Time+work+together+CEOs+warn...

 After attacking these Premier Notley these guys and now scared shitless because she won, and remembers what they did, so they are kissing her ass as much as they can, hoping she'll forgive them. And she likely will, she has them right where she wants them.

NorthReport

Who is John Horgan's new chief of staff?

Alberta NDP transition team lead by former chief of staff for Jack Layton

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/05/08/alberta-ndp-transition-team-lead-b...

 

terrytowel

Rachel Notley would not be where she is today without the INCREDIBLE work done by the late Pam Barrett

Pam really laid the groundwork for Rachel  to navigate through.

 

quizzical

if you wanna go down the path of worry about who gets credit, or not, then go all the way back and carry on because she didn't, nor does every Canadian woman politician thank Nellie McClung every time they won, or hell even speak.

after all, according to your style of thinking, if not for Nellie's INCREDIBLE work, we women wouldn't be where we are today.

 

 

robbie_dee

So, when will the Calgary Foothills byelection take place?

NorthReport

Rachel just before 1st Cancus mtg

Highest number of women, almost parity, of any government in Canada.

Youngest government of any government in Canada, truly representative of the the province where the median age is less than 40 years old, and Alberta is the youngest province populationwise in Canada.

 

NorthReport

Rachel just before 1st Caucus mtg

Highest number of women, almost parity, of any government in Canada.

Youngest government of any government in Canada, truly representative of the the province where the median age is less than 40 years old, and Alberta is the youngest province populationwise in Canada.

 

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

I wonder when the cabinet will be announced.

terrytowel

NorthReport wrote:

Rachel just before 1st Caucus mtg

Highest number of women, almost parity, of any government in Canada.

& they have the INCREDIBLE Pam Barrett to thank for that.

Pam Barrett was the FIRST woman to lead a party in Alberta, for the NDP

Shocking people in Alberta have completely forgotten about Pam's legacy.

If it wasn't for Pam, none of them would be there.

But there are so many WONDERFUL tweets on Twitter praising Pam for the groundwork she laid for Rachel.

It is distressing that babblers have completely ignored Pam and what she did for the party in Alberta.

quizzical

lol....terry terry terry it's been my experience, from being in contact with my mom's NDP, and women in politics, reality not one ground breaking woman is forgotten, nor man either if the truth be told. they all have memories like elephants has been my experience. they know the spirits of each and every one stands with them and they don't need to be name dropped.

NorthReport
NorthReport

What horseshit about some MLA's facebook page as if it is of some major consequence. Those petitions were probably started in the PMO.

Frank Howard was in jail for armed bank robbery before he got elected and did a brilliant job while in office.

terrytowel

quizzical wrote:

lol....terry terry terry it's been my experience, from being in contact with my mom's NDP, and women in politics, reality not one ground breaking woman is forgotten, nor man either if the truth be told. they all have memories like elephants has been my experience. they know the spirits of each and every one stands with them and they don't need to be name dropped.

I'm glad you said that quizzical

JKR

According to Stephen Maher in the National Post, the Alberta NDP quietly dropped p.r. from their platform in February.

http://tinyurl.com/ookjyuo

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But the Alberta NDP supports PR. The party ran on it in the last election, and in January, its platform, which is still cached online, was still promising that an NDP government would “set up a system of proportional representation.”

In February, they quietly dropped that sentence, and they did not campaign on PR.

Federal NDP MP Craig Scott, who is pushing a sensible and detailed PR proposal, will nudge Notley to move, but she knows that if she puts PR in place, she will never get another majority.

This is why we don’t have proportional representation.

Although it is clearly superior to the first-past-the-post system, it is worse for governing parties, and only their votes count.

NorthReport

What a difference a day makes.

Before Tuesday we would never ever have seen an article like this in the msp.

The right-wing move very quickly when they lose but I respect them for that as the name of the game in politics is to win, as winners control everything and losers control nothing.

"When they are 50 yards from Parliament Hill, they are no longer honourable members, they are just nobodies." Pierre Trudeau, Canadian Prime Minister

Jim Prentice's tragic character flaw

A sullen goodbye from alberta's departing premier

http://www.troymedia.com/2015/05/10/jim-prentices-tragic-character-flaw/

NorthReport

I know revenge would be sweet but what would be the most astute decision Rachel can make about this to help ensure a second term of office for the NDP

University association asks government to remove board chair

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/university-association-asks-government-to-rem...

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bekayne

NorthReport wrote:

the name of the game in politics is to win, as winners control everything and losers control nothing.

So are you now against PR?

bekayne

JKR wrote:

 

According to Stephen Maher in the National Post, the Alberta NDP quietly dropped p.r. from their platform in February.

 

http://tinyurl.com/ookjyuo

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But the Alberta NDP supports PR. The party ran on it in the last election, and in January, its platform, which is still cached online, was still promising that an NDP government would “set up a system of proportional representation.”

In February, they quietly dropped that sentence, and they did not campaign on PR.

Federal NDP MP Craig Scott, who is pushing a sensible and detailed PR proposal, will nudge Notley to move, but she knows that if she puts PR in place, she will never get another majority.

This is why we don’t have proportional representation.

Although it is clearly superior to the first-past-the-post system, it is worse for governing parties, and only their votes count.

Was the original position on PR voted on by party members? How about the change in position?

JKR

bekayne wrote:

JKR wrote:

 

According to Stephen Maher in the National Post, the Alberta NDP quietly dropped p.r. from their platform in February.

 

http://tinyurl.com/ookjyuo

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But the Alberta NDP supports PR. The party ran on it in the last election, and in January, its platform, which is still cached online, was still promising that an NDP government would “set up a system of proportional representation.”

In February, they quietly dropped that sentence, and they did not campaign on PR.

Federal NDP MP Craig Scott, who is pushing a sensible and detailed PR proposal, will nudge Notley to move, but she knows that if she puts PR in place, she will never get another majority.

This is why we don’t have proportional representation.

Although it is clearly superior to the first-past-the-post system, it is worse for governing parties, and only their votes count.

Was the original position on PR voted on by party members? How about the change in position?

Good question. My guess is that party members continued to support p.r. but the higher ups in the NDP were less supportive. Here in BC a similar thing happened in the 2013 election. P.r. was also a policy of the BC NDP but when the election came it was not placed on the election platform. Maybe when party executives and higher ups see that they may win power and positions through a phoney FPTP majority they become less enthusiastic about p.r.?

NorthReport

I agree with PR, and it's shortsighted to ignore it as the NDP won't be the political darlings forever. 

Just make it part of election process 4 years from now, but make the threshold 50%, as opposed to setting the bar so high it will never pass like Campbell did in BC.

NorthReport

Brian Jean will be Rachel Notley's biggest problem as he is very presentable and comes across as quite reasonable, which is good as he will keep her on her toes.  

What do people know about him?

NorthReport

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NorthReport

Maybe we need to start reigning in the racists in our society just like we do to sex offenders now.

Alberta First Nation NDP candidate says she faced hate, racism on campaign trail

http://aptn.ca/news/2015/05/08/alberta-first-nation-ndp-candidate-says-f...

NorthReport

Rachel Notley will have to watch out for a very Albertan coup

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rachel-notley-will-have-to-...

NorthReport

Alberta's 'old guard' needs to change tune, says head of EEDC'The first thing we heard was that the economy was going into the toilet,' says Brad Ferguson

The "old guard" in Alberta — the well-entrenched, long-time Tory supporters who are predicting economic Armageddon — have a choice to make now that the NDP has taken charge, says Brad Ferguson.

The president and CEO of  Edmonton Economic Development Corporation wrote a blog on Friday titled The King is Dead; Long Live the Queen.

His first three sentences were: "The grumpiness is deafening. The astonishment is mind-numbing. And the continued entitlement is unbelievable."

Ferguson was reacting to the doom-and-gloom predictions made by many in the business community after last week's election saw a 44-year Tory dynasty swept aside by the orange wave of Rachel Notley and the NDP.

"It was very intentional, in terms of what I was trying to do on the blog," Ferguson told CBC News on Monday.

"It really took a look at kind of an old guard here, that wasn't necessarily all that happy with the outcome of the NDP government. They have a choice right now. You can sit around and be grumpy about it, or you can keep calm and carry on, and actually realize there are a lot of positive things that are going to come of this."

Ferguson said some business leaders have suggested Alberta will no longer be a good place to invest, to start a company, or to grow an existing one.

"The first thing I believe we heard was that, basically, the economy was going into the toilet," he said. "So we had to calm that down."

The reality, he said, is that province and its two major cities are changing quickly, and business leaders now have the opportunity to change with the times.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-s-old-guard-needs-to-chan...

NorthReport

Bias behind market’s overreaction to NDP victory

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/prest-bias-behind-markets-overrea...

NorthReport

Alberta rejects the Canadian legacy of tax injustice

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2015/05/alberta-rejects-canadian-legacy-tax-...

NorthReport

Now he speaks out.  Laughing

As if everyone does not know this by now.

Former premier Ed Stelmach says Alberta Tories’ move to the right was a mistake

 

NorthReport

I got a message for this yahoo: The NDP won the election and you lost. Get over it. You can't possibly be as stupid as you sound. Go back into the hole you came from. 

Notley appointment of Brian Topp sends wrong message

Brian Topp behind BC NDP opposition to Kinder Morgan pipeline, 2013 election defeat

 

http://beaconnews.ca/blog/2015/05/notley-appointment-brian-topp-sends-wr...

 

NorthReport

Right on.

Notley Vows to Work 'Collaboratively' with Energy Industry

'They understand what's in our platform,' new NDP leader says.

 

http://thetyee.ca/News/2015/05/12/Notley-Energy-Industry/

NorthReport

Albertans voted for once to have their government represent the people as opposed to the rich and powerful.

Hopefully Danielle Smith, right up there in the Adrian Dix and Jim Prentice category of political leader, gets lot of media attention. With her around Rachel is sure to stay in office for a long time.  Laughing

Danielle Smith: Alberta Faces Decade of Progressive Hegemony

Small-State Activists Need Galvanizing Vision

http://panampost.com/fergus-hodgson/2015/05/12/danielle-smith-alberta-fa...

NorthReport

Has anyone asked Brian Jean what he thinks of Danielle Smith?  Laughing

Smith looks like she is destined to become the Sarah Palin of Canadian politics.  

NorthReport

This is not up for debate. Good. Stick to your platform Rachel and you will win re-election. Remember it is better to be there for a long time rather than for a good time. 

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/notley-says-royalty-review-will-t...

NorthReport

I guess when you are used to running the show you get a bit arrogant, but the oilpatch CEOs gotta bit a dim crowd, as everytime they open their mouth and attack the NDP they are just shooting themselves in the foot and lowering the price of their company's stock. I doubt shareholders are going to put up with their losing money mentality and will boot them out if they don't quickly smarten up. At least the Encana CEO gets it.

Encana CEO says NDP appreciates importance of oilpatch and will move cautiously

http://www.brandonsun.com/business/breaking-news/encana-ceo-says-ndp-app...

NorthReport

Alberta could kick coal habit under incoming NDP premier Rachel Notley


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-could-kick-coal-habi...

NorthReport

I hope so.

Is coal in the crosshairs under incoming NDP premier Rachel Notley?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/is-coal-in-the-crosshairs-under-incoming-nd...

NorthReport

Day: B.C. refinery would add value to Alberta oil

http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/day-b-c-refinery-would-add-v...

NorthReport

Absolutely fabulous picture essay Sally! Thank you for this!!!  Smile

Women of The War Room: The Alberta NDP

http://rabble.ca/news/2015/05/women-war-room-alberta-ndp

TiradeFaction

NDP pushed me to cross the floor, ex-MLA Laurie Blakeman says

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/pushed+cross+floor+Laurie+Blakeman+says/1...

Policywonk

TiradeFaction wrote:

NDP pushed me to cross the floor, ex-MLA Laurie Blakeman says

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/pushed+cross+floor+Laurie+Blakeman+says/1...

A bit misleading as they would have been inviting her to run as a New Democrat, not to cross the floor between elections. 

bagkitty bagkitty's picture

A member of my family made an interesting observation regarding the sole Liberal remaining in the legislature, Calgary Mountainview's Dr. Swann... "is there any reason that Rachel couldn't invite him to join the cabinet as the health minister?" Frankly, I don't see any constitutional barriers to her doing so...

While I doubt it would occur to the ANDP, it would be a bold way of indicating that the new political reality in Alberta was breaking from the old one - so long, of course, as it wasn't conditional on his crossing the floor.

robbie_dee

bagkitty wrote:

A member of my family made an interesting observation regarding the sole Liberal remaining in the legislature, Calgary Mountainview's Dr. Swann... "is there any reason that Rachel couldn't invite him to join the cabinet as the health minister?" Frankly, I don't see any constitutional barriers to her doing so...

While I doubt it would occur to the ANDP, it would be a bold way of indicating that the new political reality in Alberta was breaking from the old one - so long, of course, as it wasn't conditional on his crossing the floor.

It's an interesting idea and I wouldn't be surprised if comes up actually. Something like it was actually tried before in Saskatchewan - where Notley's current chief of staff Brian Topp used to work. Unfortunately it didn't work out so well for either the Saskatchewan Liberals or the individuals involved. After the 1999 provincial election the Saskatchewan NDP won exactly half of the seats in the legislature so to ensure that it were not vulnerable on any confidence motions the party proposed a coalition with the three-seat provincial Liberals. The three MLAs initially accepted the offer and Liberal leader [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Melenchuk]Jim Melenchuk[/url] and his colleagues joined the cabinet, with Melenchuk holding the important Education Ministry. Unfortunately grassroots Liberal party members were not impressed, rejected the coalition and ordered the MLAs to break it off. When Melenchuk and fellow Ron Osika refused, they were kicked out of the party and ended up joining the NDP and running for reelection under the orange banner in 2003. Both of them lost, but the Saskatchewan Liberals have not elected a member to the legislature since then, either.

Obviously Saskatchewan and Alberta are very different political cultures and the circumstances are different here, too (including that Notley has no need for Swann's support to ensure her government's survival). In the end, though, I doubt this would happen.

Charles

And given they have someone like Bob Turner who would make an excellent Health Minister why go scraping up the one Liberal who was lucky to survive his party's drubbing?

 

robbie_dee wrote:

bagkitty wrote:

A member of my family made an interesting observation regarding the sole Liberal remaining in the legislature, Calgary Mountainview's Dr. Swann... "is there any reason that Rachel couldn't invite him to join the cabinet as the health minister?" Frankly, I don't see any constitutional barriers to her doing so...

While I doubt it would occur to the ANDP, it would be a bold way of indicating that the new political reality in Alberta was breaking from the old one - so long, of course, as it wasn't conditional on his crossing the floor.

It's an interesting idea and I wouldn't be surprised if comes up actually. Something like it was actually tried before in Saskatchewan - where Notley's current chief of staff Brian Topp used to work. Unfortunately it didn't work out so well for either the Saskatchewan Liberals or the individuals involved. After the 1999 provincial election the Saskatchewan NDP won exactly half of the seats in the legislature so to ensure that it were not vulnerable on any confidence motions the party proposed a coalition with the three-seat provincial Liberals. The three MLAs initially accepted the offer and Liberal leader [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Melenchuk]Jim Melenchuk[/url] and his colleagues joined the cabinet, with Melenchuk holding the important Education Ministry. Unfortunately grassroots Liberal party members were not impressed, rejected the coalition and ordered the MLAs to break it off. When Melenchuk and fellow Ron Osika refused, they were kicked out of the party and ended up joining the NDP and running for reelection under the orange banner in 2003. Both of them lost, but the Saskatchewan Liberals have not elected a member to the legislature since then, either.

Obviously Saskatchewan and Alberta are very different political cultures and the circumstances are different here, too (including that Notley has no need for Swann's support to ensure her government's survival). In the end, though, I doubt this would happen.

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