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BC Election May 9 '17

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Not a chance!

Canada’s New Democrats Can Learn from Trump - Or Lose

Trump won because he targeted working class voters. Will NDP finally do the same?

And that means class is back as the most dominant factor in politics, including here in Canada and British Columbia.

And that means class is back as the most dominant factor in politics, including here in Canada and British Columbia.

If the NDP looks past the Trump trash talk and focuses on his incredibly successful targeted message, it could benefit mightily in B.C. and across the country.

But if it replicates Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s spectacularly failed campaign, more depressing defeats are inevitable.

Clinton did not make the same direct appeal to workers as Trump. Instead, she used identity politics. 

As author John D. Judas wrote in the Washington Post: “Many Democrats have believed that a coalition of minorities, millennials and single women would help create a new Democratic majority for years to come. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was counting on it.”

“Why did the Democrats’ strategy fail so miserably? Ultimately, because they overestimated the strength of a coalition based on identity politics,” he concludes.

Class trumps race, gender and sexual identity and policy issues like climate change, health care, education, foreign relations or anything else. 

That’s because class is still the single strongest indicator of voting preference — not the only one, just the most significant. And it has always been critical in B.C.

If you asked me to identify how a roomful of strangers would vote in a provincial election and I could only ask them one question, it would be “what is your income?” If you gave me two questions, I’d ask their occupation next. 

Ironically, the NDP — founded by labour unions, farmers and progressives in 1961 — talks almost exclusively about the “middle class” rather than the working class, while billionaire businessman Trump doesn’t hesitate to use the term or appeal directly to workers. 

While Clinton’s slogans were “Stronger Together” and the self-important “I’m With Her,” Trump was identifying both the problem and his solution in just four words: “Make America Great Again.”

And while Clinton talked about her aspirations for the country, Trump spoke directly to his working class target audience about their fears and needs — in their language.

“The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration and economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry,” Trump said in “Argument for America,” a two-minute video shared online in the last week of the campaign which has more than 8 million views.

“The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries all around the world. 

“It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into pockets into a handful of large corporations and political entities,” Trump says.

“The only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. The only force strong enough to save our country is us... you the American people.”

Pow! Powerful language — “robbed our working class” — that borrows from and goes even further than labour leaders and left-wingers like Clinton’s Democratic nomination opponent Bernie Sanders. 

In fact, Sanders said of Trump’s victory: “Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media.

 

 

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/11/15/NDP-Can-Learn-from-Trump/


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Thanks for this!


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“Democratic Socialism” in America, Blueprint for a New Party: Bernie Sanders By Sen. Bernie Sanders and Seth Ackerman Global Research, November 16, 2016 Monthly Review 16 November 2016


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B.C. Liberals announce former Global morning anchor Steve Darling as new candidate. Darling joins former Global senior reporter Jas Johal as party candidate

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/steve-darling-global-bc-l...

 

The BCL had to can a previous hack in Randy Rinaldo for the nomination earlier this year when some of his previous tweets came back to haunt him. 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/randy-rinaldo-withdraws-b...

"Child poverty is a cultural problem' and many people 'shouldn't be having kids"

 


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2 pre-election actions by the BC Liberals should be payed attention too imv.

if we don't we're going to get them after the election if the BC Liberals get again. the Liberals will say we announced prior to the election.

1. a huge jump in ICBC rates maybe 45%

2. a BC hydro transmission rate

and here's John Horgan pissing around with making a half assed commitment on grizzly hunts. not a mention of increassed ICBC rates and imposing transmission fees.

ffs how can i vote them?

 


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John Horgan thinks banning Grizzly Beat Hunting in BC is going to win the election for the BC NDP.  Idiots are in control of the BC NDP.


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NorthReport
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Good luck running against this sentiment. My hunch is that the BC NDP running against jobs will lose around 10 seats in '17 

Oil Rally Makes It All Good for Canadian Markets

Canada’s getting its mojo back.

Prospects for the country turned a corner this week as OPEC put a floor under oil prices, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau approved two oil pipeline projects and economic data surprised to the upside, offering relief after two years of lackluster growth on crude’s rout.

The trifecta of good news, along with forecasts for a Trump-inspired resurgence in the U.S., prompted some analysts to post bullish forecasts for the economy and the stock market -- already the best-performing among the world’s best developed markets.

“The resource opportunity for Canada is something that’s worked out well and should continue,” said Derek Young, president of Fidelity Investments’ Global Asset Allocation unit, in a phone interview from Boston on Thursday. Fidelity manages about $2.1 trillion in assets. “In terms of commodity exposure, Canada is well-positioned.”

The benchmark S&P/TSX Composite Index closed down 0.4 percent to 15,027.53 in Toronto on Thursday, just off its highest level in 18 months after completing the fifth straight month of gains in November -- the longest stretch of wins since April 2014. The market has advanced 16 percent this year, well ahead of second-place Norway at about 10 percent.

Matt Barasch, chief Canadian equity strategist with RBC Capital Markets, expects Canadian equities to continue their bull run over at least the next year, forecasting the S&P/TSX to surge to a record 16,300 over the coming 18 months -- implying about a 12 percent total return from current levels.

Already Celebrating

This coming year “sets up well for Canadian stocks,” with the potential to extend its streak of outperformance against U.S. stocks for at least another year, Barasch said in the report.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-01/it-s-all-good-for-canada-as-oil-rally-points-to-more-stock-gains


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Sure the NDP is going to do well in May '17, sure they are!  Frown

Unfortunately NDPers are not selling what voters want. Like good jobs to help families pay their mortgages, feed their families, and pay for their kids to get a decent education and to cover their health care costs. The BC Liberals on the other hand do know what voters want and are offering it. 

It's all over now but the counting of the ballots. Too bad!

Right wingers rank as most popular premiers in Angus Reid Institute poll

http://www.straight.com/news/844396/right-wingers-rank-most-popular-prem...


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could ya shrink the graph?


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Well this is unfortunate: http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgia-collins-withdraws-nomination-race-citing-sexism

WTH

Death threats?!


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Basement Dweller wrote:

Well this is unfortunate: http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgia-collins-withdraws-nomination-race-citing-sexism

WTH

Death threats?!

Here's a link. Its hard to know what to make of the story since there are so few facts in it.

http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgi...


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kropotkin1951 wrote:

Basement Dweller wrote:

Well this is unfortunate: http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgia-collins-withdraws-nomination-race-citing-sexism

WTH

Death threats?!

Here's a link. Its hard to know what to make of the story since there are so few facts in it.

http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgi...

 

Well... here...

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/335326856/Copy-of-leaked-lawyers-letter#...


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NorthReport wrote:

Sure the NDP is going to do well in May '17, sure they are!  Frown

Unfortunately NDPers are not selling what voters want. Like good jobs to help families pay their mortgages, feed their families, and pay for their kids to get a decent education and to cover their health care costs. The BC Liberals on the other hand do know what voters want and are offering it. 

It's all over now but the counting of the ballots. Too bad!

Right wingers rank as most popular premiers in Angus Reid Institute poll

http://www.straight.com/news/844396/right-wingers-rank-most-popular-prem...

The BCNDP couldn't support Kinder Morgan and still be different from the BC Liberals on anything important.  There's no way to do environmentally safe megaprojects and Kinder Morgan doesn't even offer all that many jobs. 


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http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgi...

Quote:
"Looking back on the campaign and the political process generally, partisan politics can cause people to say things about each other that might not otherwise be said more charitably or with more understanding. In so many cases, it seems to me there is a better way than the current partisan process to move what is really at issue forward in a positive and productive way. Empathy and equanimity are key. I am resolute in my belief that there is a better way to do politics and I look forward to continuing to work within and for my community toward a better future for all."


If this is genuine I'd vote for this woman any day; but she'd never survive in Canadian politics - more's the pity.


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Centrist wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Basement Dweller wrote:

Well this is unfortunate: http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgia-collins-withdraws-nomination-race-citing-sexism

WTH

Death threats?!

Here's a link. Its hard to know what to make of the story since there are so few facts in it.

http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgi...

 

Well... here...

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/335326856/Copy-of-leaked-lawyers-letter#...

Thanks for that. The party needs to step up to the plate and at minimum censure the person responsible for the inappropriate e-mails and issue a sincere apology and an open door to continue on seeking the nomination.


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kropotkin1951 wrote:

Thanks for that. The party needs to step up to the plate and at minimum censure the person responsible for the inappropriate e-mails and issue a sincere apology and an open door to continue on seeking the nomination.

Agreed, just because the offender has obviously been around for a long-time and has connections should not keep him from getting the appropriate discipline. This kind of crap drives a lot of good people from politics.

 


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Agreed.  

 


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The BC NDP already with their no jobs policy, and now this stink, will no doubt be losing seats this coming election. My hunch is the BC NDP will drop 10 seats on May 9 '17. The Greens may pick up a few seats though.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Centrist wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Basement Dweller wrote:

Well this is unfortunate: http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgia-collins-withdraws-nomination-race-citing-sexism

WTH

Death threats?!

Here's a link. Its hard to know what to make of the story since there are so few facts in it.

http://www.straight.com/news/849096/vancouver-island-new-democrat-georgi...

 

Well... here...

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/335326856/Copy-of-leaked-lawyers-letter#...

Thanks for that. The party needs to step up to the plate and at minimum censure the person responsible for the inappropriate e-mails and issue a sincere apology and an open door to continue on seeking the nomination.


Ken Burch
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The BCNDP does not have a "no jobs" policy. 


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Democracy Watch takes B.C. conflict case to court

British Columbia's Supreme Court will be asked to hear a case Thursday that seeks to set aside two rulings made by the conflict of interest commissioner involving Premier Christy Clark.

Democracy Watch co-founder Duff Conacher says his group will be in court in Vancouver to argue that its petitions to overturn the rulings should go ahead.

Conflict commissioner Paul Fraser has applied to have the case dismissed, arguing his rulings are protected by legislative privilege and are not subject to review by the courts.

The rulings made last May and August cleared Clark of conflict allegations connected to her attendance at B.C. Liberal party fundraising events.

Conacher says the Conflict of Interest Act doesn't include any clauses that would prevent a judicial review.

The officer of the conflict of interest commissioner declined to comment on the case....


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It’s time to confront the exploitation of B.C.’s environment

The environment in British Columbia has taken a beating since the arrival of Captain James Cook at Nootka Sound in 1778, when his crew traded small items for rich sea-otter furs.

The pelts were later sold in China for up to $300 apiece, which would be equivalent to roughly $5,000 today. So the fur trade stirred its own kind of gold fever, and in no time Pacific Coast sea otters were on the verge of extinction.

In 1858, the Fraser Canyon gold rush pushed resource extraction to a whole new level, as 30,000 gold seekers sluiced gravel on every bar and at every stream mouth from Hope to Lillooet. Nobody ever recorded what environmental damage was done in that frenzy, but that's where a lot of the Fraser's salmon spawned. At any rate, it set a pattern that has been repeated since, with resource extraction taking precedence over habitat protection and aboriginal rights.

Gold. Fur. Forests. Coal. Hydro power. LNG. Oil....


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The politically deaf BC NDP don't stand a chance Thank goodness the clueless BC NDP will be crushed in the May 9th election https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-ndp-leader-joh...

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Thanks for this John Horgan Carol James and Craig Keating http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/national/mike+smyth+legal+threats+afte...

kropotkin1951
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So NR who are you supporting the BC Liberals or the BC Conservatives?


NorthReport
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Avoiding the issue does not make it go away, and krop your response is just another example of the typical useless NDP responses to serious problems which will now probably cost the NDP that seat. You might want to pray that the damage to the NDP is limited to that one seat.


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It's already over and we are still 4 months away from the election. Unfortunately this time it will be a rout.

Christy Clark dons hard hat in quest for 5th Liberal mandate, hammers out jobs platform

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/christy-clark-dons-hard-hat-in-quest-for-...


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It's already over and we are still 4 months away from the election. And this time it will be a rout.

Christy Clark dons hard hat in quest for 5th Liberal mandate, hammers out jobs platform

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/christy-clark-dons-hard-hat-in-quest-for-...


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NorthReport wrote:

Avoiding the issue does not make it go away,

 

Yes the issue of global warming isn't going away, despite your and Christy's ignoring its impacts.

Quote:

 To date, including 2015, 15 of the 16 warmest years on record have occurred during the 21st century. 1998 is currently tied with 2009 as the sixth warmest year on record.

Overall, the global annual temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.07°C (0.13°F) per decade since 1880 and at an average rate of 0.17°C (0.31°F) per decade since 1970.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

 


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