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The BC NDP is in first place with the support of 40% of decided voters (+1), followed by the BC Liberals with 34% (=), the BC Green Party with 14% (-2) and the BC Conservatives with 10% (+3). 

http://www.insightswest.com/news/concerns-over-housing-and-poverty-inten...

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

The BC Liberals have picked a real estate agent as their candidate in Burnaby-Lougheed. Here is a tweet he made on the issue of child poverty.

jas

kropotkin1951 wrote:

The BC Liberals have picked a real estate agent as their candidate in Burnaby-Lougheed. Here is a tweet he made on the issue of child poverty.

 

  Laughing

 

Rev Pesky

From a Tyee article posted by epaulo13:

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Ever since its days as the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation, the NDP has essentially accepted the old 19th-century industrial model in which wealth is created by extracting resources and then converting those resources into manufactured goods.

That wasn't just a 'model'. In fact it was a reality. It may be old, but so far no one has been able to provide any other way of putting 'goods' into the hands of consumers.

Everything I own is the result of some manufacturing process. None of it came from magic, or some as yet not fully known process.

So my question to Crawfrod Killian (article's author) is, "What other process puts wealth into the hands of people"?

quizzical

my question is why putting "wealth" in the hands of anyone a determning factor on how we live?

quizzical

still wondering

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

quizzical

..there is a direct relationship between wealth and power. the more wealth you have the more power you can buy which then is used to increase wealth. wealth and power is always at the expense of others unless it is distributed amongst the many in a fair manner. if not it determins how much you pay for rent, food, what your wages will be, health care, climate, retirement etc. hope this answers your question a little.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

kropotkin1951 wrote:

The BC Liberals have picked a real estate agent as their candidate in Burnaby-Lougheed. Here is a tweet he made on the issue of child poverty.

I'd agree...in the case of Randy Rinaldo's parents.

Basement Dweller
Basement Dweller

He is also a real estate agent.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Many people out there shouldn't be standing for office #Indefensible #Unelectable #BCLiberal.

NorthReport

Polls a year out from an election can be meaningless as we well know and I expect the BC NDP to lose 10 seats in 2017
Soon it will be time for Clark to start wearing her hard hat again

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[url=http://www.metronews.ca/features/vancouver/vancouvering/2016/06/10/ndp-t... Talks: John Horgan says NDP will target foreign owners in fight for housing affordability[/url]

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n March, Horgan tabled a Private Member’s Bill proposing a “housing affordability levy” set at two per cent of a home’s market value.

The money collected would go into a housing affordability fund.

Aimed at speculators and foreign owners, the bill exempts permanent residents of Canada, seniors, people who pay an equal amount of income tax or those who have used the home as their primary residence for at least five years from paying the tax.

The bill – based on the work of University of British Columbia economists Tsur Somerville and Thomas Davidoff and similar to the speculation tax called for by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson – died on the floor but Horgan says he’d implement it should the NDP form the next government.

“Once you put a lid on this being a safety deposit box for offshore investors, then you can start putting in place those initiatives that will create more supply, that will lead to dampening of cost increases,” Horgan says. “Whether or not the numbers are two, five, or 10 per cent, I think we’ll clarify that closer to the election date when we have a better sense of what the budget will look like.”

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

I'm happy to see that the BC NDP is proposing measures to deal with the housing affordability crisis in Metro Vancouver. While I don't think the proposed measures go far enough, I suspect they'll be relatively popular among voters in Metro Vancouver. If things go right for the NDP, this could help them to maximize their seat count in Metro Vancouver. Not to win all of the ridings in Metro Vancouver by any means, but to win as many of the winnable ridings as possible.

To win the election though, the BC NDP will need some policies that will appeal to voters in the interior of the province on the issues of jobs and the economy. The interior of the province voted solidly BC Liberal in 2013, and this was a big factor in the BC Liberals win. Housing affordability is not an issue for these voters. What is an issue is folks being able to find work in or near their communities so they either don't have to move, or don't have to move to a completely different part of the country, for work. If the BC NDP doesn't have campaign planks that address this issue, then the voters in the interior have little incentive to not vote for the BC Liberals again in 2017.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Left Turn wrote:

The interior of the province voted solidly BC Liberal in 2013, and this was a big factor in the BC Liberals win.

The interior of BC has voted solidly Liberal every since it voted solidly Socred for four decades. There are many people in the Interior especially the Kelowna area that will never vote NDP under any circumstances. Just look at where the hated Harperites won seats in BC this last election.Trying to win over voters who hate what you stand for is not a way to win elections. 

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Left Turn wrote:

The interior of the province voted solidly BC Liberal in 2013, and this was a big factor in the BC Liberals win.

The interior of BC has voted solidly Liberal every since it voted solidly Socred for four decades. There are many people in the Interior especially the Kelowna area that will never vote NDP under any circumstances. Just look at where the hated Harperites won seats in BC this last election.Trying to win over voters who hate what you stand for is not a way to win elections. 

The BC NDP has peviously won seats such as Cariboo-Chicotin, Cariboo North, Columbia River-Revelstoke, Fraser-Nicola, Nelson-Creston, Prince George-Valemout, and Kamloops (before it got split into two seats). I don't see the NDP winning an election without winning all or most of these ridings. And I'd consider most of these ridings more winnable with the right platform than Metro Vancouver Ridings such as Delta South, Langley, North Vancouver--Capilano, Surrey-White Rock, Vancouver Quilchena, and West Vancouver--Sea to Sky. Ridings that the NDP have never won, and that I don't see them winning under any circumstances.

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

The BC NDP could technically get a win with only coastal and Metro Vancouver electoral districts. This would however require that the BC NDP win every coastal and Metro Vancouver electoral district it has ever won, plus a few that it has never won. This seems like a risky strategy to me.

Now unlike North Report I don't believe that that the answer to winning seats in the interior is to support tar sands pipelines, LNG/pipelines, and Site C. I'm opposed to all of the above for environmental reasons. Plus I think the NDP would lose as many if not more votes on the coast and in Metro Vancouver than it would gain in the interior from support of these projects.

What the NDP needs to do is provide an alternative to the neolibral idea that only the private sector can create meaningful numbers of jobs.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Left Turn wrote:

The BC NDP could technically get a win with only coastal and Metro Vancouver electoral districts. This would however require that the BC NDP win every coastal and Metro Vancouver electoral district it has ever won, plus a few that it has never won. This seems like a risky strategy to me.

Now unlike North Report I don't believe that that the answer to winning seats in the interior is to support tar sands pipelines, LNG/pipelines, and Site C. I'm opposed to all of the above for environmental reasons. Plus I think the NDP would lose as many if not more votes on the coast and in Metro Vancouver than it would gain in the interior from support of these projects.

What the NDP needs to do is provide an alternative to the neolibral idea that only the private sector can create meaningful numbers of jobs.

We agree then. I think there are a few winnable seats outside the Coast region. The NDP needs a job strategy based on local economies and they need a very strong campaign of defending the marginalized workers in the economy. There are tens of thousands of potential voters who are stuck in low paying jobs and we have no employment standards enforcement left in the province. We also have a very damaged WCB system and a stressed out health care system and a disfunctional education system. The party need an overt red/green strategy of appealing to the poor while running on a very green platform.  It will not lose them any voters and it may just get them enough new voters in close ridings to win the seats.

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

A lot of low wage workers in the interior aspire to get better paying resource sector jobs. The NDP needs policies to promote the manufacture of value-added products in forestry.

Currently, LNG is the only resource sector that gets much attention in the media, with the BC Liberals in favour, and the NDP against. That and tar sands pipelines, which even the BC Liberals have been forced to oppose in word if not in deed.

The BC Liberals and their media friends say nothing about forestry, because their policy on forestry is disastrous. The BC NDP also ignores forestry, either because it doesn't want to institute policies to build this sector of the economy, or because it has written off the sector in light of the pine beetle infestation.

Under this scenario, workers who want rescource sector employment will vote BC Liberal.

As loing as the NDP doesn't make forestry a centrepiece of their capaign, the BC Liberals get a free pass for allowing companies to ship raw logs ourt of this province.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..this interview with horgan demonstrates the knowledge is there in the ndp to create a jobs program. so i don't know what is holding that back.

BC NDP says it would shut down Site C

The B.C. NDP has laid out its strategy for generating power in this province. It involves more renewable energy- and a shut-down of the controversial Site C construction project. We speak to leader John Horgan.

NorthReport

Christy has already started to campaign wearing her hard hat this week. Horgan hasn't got a clue what he is doing and his leadership will easily cost the BC NDP another 10 seats in 2017

Stockholm

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Left Turn wrote:

The interior of the province voted solidly BC Liberal in 2013, and this was a big factor in the BC Liberals win.

The interior of BC has voted solidly Liberal every since it voted solidly Socred for four decades. There are many people in the Interior especially the Kelowna area that will never vote NDP under any circumstances. Just look at where the hated Harperites won seats in BC this last election.Trying to win over voters who hate what you stand for is not a way to win elections. 

FYI Kelowna elected a Liberal last October

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

So what if they elected a federal Liberal. My point was that the Interior has always been a tough region for the NDP. FYI the Liberals have been in power for over a decade and act just like the Harper Conservatives in policy but manage to be more corrupt. My point about Kelowna still stands, there are many people in the area who will never ever vote NDP. If a Conservatove government pissese them off they will vote Liberal but not NDP. The only way the BC NDP has ever won an election is with a three way race. 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Editorial: B.C. economy about more than just LNG

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And the biggest economic engine driving provincial GDP is Metro Vancouver itself. In 2015, Metro accounted for 73 per cent of new business incorporations in B.C. Over the last decade the value of building permits across Metro have totalled almost $65 billion. Since 2010, almost 164,000 international immigrants have settled in B.C., most of them in Metro. Meanwhile, traffic congestion grows, public transit rollouts appear to be stalled, there’s a crisis in affordable housing — average rents have increased 35 per cent over the past decade and vacancy rates for the small apartments essential to sustain a young, entry-level work force hover below one per cent. These are all critical components in any strategy that hopes to sustain real growth in the provincial economy.

This province’s economy has evolved far beyond its muscular, now-romanticized roots in the resource sector when loggers, miners and fishboats symbolized prosperity. To be sure, resource extraction and exports are still important and vital parts of the economy, but they are no longer dominant drivers.

NorthReport

Let's not be naiive
The one and only reason the Sun is saying that is to try and bail Christy Clark out from her promises of many, many LNG projects,
A million LNG jobs, no more provincial debt or pst and who knows what else she promised

Basement Dweller

What that editorial fails to mention is that Metro Vancouver has one of the lowest median incomes for any city in Canada. And it is falling at a rate only surpassed by the old industrial cities in Ontario:

http://www.broadbentinstitute.ca/en/blog/employment-income-2006-who-gain...

However, the old industrial cities Ontario don't have such a high and increasing cost of living as Metro Vancouver.

This city is screwed.

 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..the point here is that there is a need for jobs, affordable housing and transit across the province. that it doesn't have to throwing much needed resources at lng or site c. this means being creative. this is a place where the ndp can do well. raising wages can be a part of that.

NorthReport

Dr Santa Ono named new UBC President

NorthReport

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NorthReport

BC Hydro cuts more people off for nonpayment thanks to the new Smart Meters which surely was one of the reasons for installing Smart Meters in the first place When big government and/or big business get involved there is always a hook, eh!

NorthReport

2 out of 3 BC residents oppose government funding of religious schools so why are we continuing to do it and why also are we offering property tax-free breaks to churches, mosques, etc. Especially in the Lower Mainland where affordable housing dreams have been shattered

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Former seniors care facility in Victoria to become housing for the homeless

The British Columbia government has bought a former seniors care facility in downtown Victoria and plans to turn it into 140 housing units for the homeless.

The purchase comes as the province heads to B.C. Supreme Court later this month in its second attempt to evict the 80 to 100 people who have been camping on the grounds of the Victoria courthouse since last year.

B.C. paid $11.2 million for the former care facility which will be ready for tenants next month.

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In April, the chief justice of the B.C. Supreme Court refused to grant the province an interim injunction to evict the campers, ruling the government didn’t prove it would suffer irreparable harm if an injunction wasn’t granted.

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[url=http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/ndp-government-would-raise-b-c-s... government would raise B.C.'s minimum wage to $15 an hour in its first term, says leader[/url]

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An NDP government in British Columbia would hike the minimum wage to $15 an hour, said NDP leader John Horgan Sunday.

Horgan told a group of NDP campaigners in Kamloops that the raise would come in the NDP’s first term if elected next year.

“It’s not good enough that people are working full-time or more just to keep their heads above water, and it’s not good enough that this generation will actually be worse off than their parents when it comes to affordability and opportunity,” Horgan said.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

The BC NDP is starting to put together a very good election platform. Yes to a $15 minimum wage and no to Site C and the pipeline projects. They have re-won my vote and if they keep this up I might even send them some money during the campaign. Now if they will run on a phase out of public money to private schools and a reinvestment in the public school system and promise to double disability GAIN I might even have to help on its campaign. 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..yes there are possibilities in the making.

eta:

Unneeded, Expensive Site C Brings Huge Costs, No Benefits: NDP Critic

By Adrian Dix

 

NorthReport

Yup, the party of no will do wonders. Laughing

NorthReport

Another Christy Clark megaproject (hard hat photo-op anyone) about to take off - the Massey Bridge with 10 lanes. Lots of jobs there, so guess who BC workers will be voting for, eh!

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..i thought dix's piece needed to lay out the case better and reduce the attacks on the libs. this is not yet the election but a time for educating folks on the better way forward. eg laying out how new jobs will be created and better use the money will go to than site c.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NorthReport wrote:

Another Christy Clark megaproject (hard hat photo-op anyone) about to take off - the Massey Bridge with 10 lanes. Lots of jobs there, so guess who BC workers will be voting for, eh!

The Mayors of Metro Vancouver have come out against this particular project. You keep drinking the kool-aid and you will end up like a resident of Jonestown. Saying that a specific project is bad is not the same as saying all projects are bad. If the right wing Mayors even oppose it that tells a lot about how inapproriate it is. 

http://www.straight.com/news/727876/metro-vancouver-rejects-35-billion-b...

NorthReport

Take the Massey Tunnel much.

Maybe these mayors should have listened to Delta Mayor Lois Jackson who is the major for the area and whose citizens are the ones that that have to use the tunnel. And don't worry, the North Shore District mayor is already demanding major road changes in North Vancouver so THOSE citizens can get through THEIR traffic bottlenecks (just North of the Ironworker's bridge for example) more rapidly. 

And BC's unionized paramedics by the way are supporting the Massey Bridge as well.

We are quickly, more than most people realize, heading into the driverless car era, which will only end up putting a whole lot more vehicles on the road.

The BC Liberals are living in the 21st century whereas the BC NDP continue to live in the 19th century, and that is why there is no hope for Horgan and his bunch of Greens. It gives me no joy to suggest the BC NDP, the Party of No, could lose another 10 seats in the 2017 election.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

You sure do buy into right wing propaganda don't you. Nobody is saying no to a new crossing we are talking about what kind of crossing. Like all the other BC Liberal projects you just lap up the bullshit pumped out by the Liberals. I have thought for a while you are in fact a BC Liberal supporter and now I know for sure.

 

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Vancouver, BC, CA – Climate Town Hall: Burnaby North-Seymour

When: July 16, 2016 @ 6:00 pm

Where: 4585 Albert St
Burnaby

NOTE: Exact start time yet to be confirmed.
NOTE: A pre-town hall briefing organized by People’s Climate Plan will be announced in the coming weeks.

MP Terry Beech is holding a climate change consultation for their riding, Burnaby North-Seymour on July 16th, 2016 [time TBD]. It’s up to us to show up and speak up in support of a national climate action strategy that works for us.

Email terry.beech@parl.gc.ca to let his office know you’re participating.

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North Vancouver, BC, CA – Climate Town Hall

When: July 5, 2016 @ 6:30 pm – 8:30 pm

Where: North Vancouver City Hall

MP John Wilkinson is holding a climate change consultation for their riding, North Vancouver on July 5th, 2016 at 6:30 PM. It’s up to us to show up and speak up in support of an ambitious national climate strategy.

Email Jonathan.Wilkinson@parl.gc.ca to let your MP’s office know you’re participating.

Together, we’ll show our support for a People’s Climate Plan that keeps global warming below 1.5 degrees, builds a 100% renewable energy economy that works for transitioning fossil fuel workers, and enshrines justice and reconciliation for Indigenous peoples.

To learn more about the People’s Climate Plan visit www.peoplesclimate.ca.

We’ll be having a pre-meeting briefing before the town hall with details to be released shortly.

NorthReport
NorthReport

Whitewater rafting season derailed in Golden, B.C.

CP blocks access to iconic rafting route, citing safety

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/golden-rafting-season-der...

NorthReport

Campers angry, death threat issued over B.C.’s campsite reservation system

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/campers-angry-death-threat-issued-over-b-c-s-campsi...

quizzical

wonder whose linked to the BC Liberal government in the biz of scalping camp sites the second reservations open?

it should be first come first serve in person, with a staffed camp gate entry.

NorthReport

We need more parks with waterfront campsites in BC
Campers need to be able to make reservations but if there is such a high demand maybe a system is needed whereby campers are only eligible every second or third year for a campsite.
Is is obvious that selling any waterfront anywhere in BC is just another sop for the rich to the detriment of the rest of us

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

quizzical wrote:

wonder whose linked to the BC Liberal government in the biz of scalping camp sites the second reservations open?

it should be first come first serve in person, with a staffed camp gate entry.

I have been camping at Rathtrevor for over a decade every summer. My family gets together there during their holidays from work. Without a reservation system we would likely arrive and be in a line-up and if there were no sites available because the line formed before the ferries from the mainland docked on the VI it would mean one fucked up family holiday. We don't need to throw the baby pout with  the bath water just make restrictions on who can reserve and how many sites they may reserve. 

Prior to the reservation system I remember camping in the car over night to hopefully get a site in one of the busy parks.  That system meant that working people were at a distinct disadvantage because on Thursday night the line ups would start for the weekend and if you had to work on Friday the odds of getting a weekend campsite were nil.

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Victoria protest challenges Canada’s housing ministers by bringing politics to street level

On Tuesday June 28th, Victoria, British Columbia took centre stage in Canada’s housing crisis. While the Province mounted a second attempt to displace Super InTent City by court injunction, all of Canada’s Provincial and Territorial ministers of housing met the Federal housing minister Jean-Yves Duclos blocks away in the Hotel Grand Pacific. In response, housing justice and anti-displacement activists converged to expose Trudeau’s do-nothing housing policies and to deliver the Ministers two major demands, summarized by banners that flew at the rally reading “Hands off Super InTent City” and “Build 77,000 Homes Now.”

As the rally was about to begin in the square beside the hotel, the Federal Minister responsible for housing, Jean-Yves Duclos, walked in with an entourage of grinning men in suits. The rally MC, Ivan Drury from Alliance Against Displacement, called him to the stage. Pressed for numbers of how much money the feds would specifically make available for new social housing construction, Duclos answered only with, “we appreciate your passion for the issue.” His voice got softer and softer with repeated challenges for the simple answer he refused to give. Video on the TV show him and his entourage leaving to chants of “Trudeau lies, people die.” His evasive and noncommittal comments on the stage foreshadowed the results of the Minister’s meeting, which promised only a Canada-wide consultation, a new website, and no new homes....

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