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Slumberjack

They don't know what they want, but they know how to get it. Or is that ass backwards? They want cuts, but nothing that might damage them to any great extent politically. It's called being detached from any sense of reality besides their own version of it. They've got everyone's genitalia being compressed in a vice as a result, until they're given answers they don't want to hear, which is that when you make cuts of this magnitude, the potential negative impact on your traditional support base is unavoidable.

Caissa

Schools board have a lot of power in NS. NB abolished them years ago and replaced them with tootless DECs.

KenS

A lot of us wouldnt care if they abolished the school boards. And I say that knowing some good people on them.

But we won't be getting that from the Dexter government. They want to be removed from the bloodletting.

Slumberjack wrote:

They want cuts, but nothing that might damage them to any great extent politically.

Right. They will have their cuts. Thay also expect the Boards to do it in a manner that leaves them unscathed.

Since they are not at the moment getting it both ways, the Dexter government are as we speak retroactively changing the rules of the game to make sure that the responsibility stays away from their door.

Slumberjack

Several months ago in post #22 above I mentioned the use of stealth tactics, which as we know can only endure for so long before the people affected take their opportunity to weigh in by speaking out.  The targeted school boards had already implemented the first round of austerity measures the previous year through management efficiencies.  As a result, slim pickings remain to assist in accounting for the deeper requirements of round two, without looking directly at more full time teaching positions.  By necessity, it's been made the turn of the librarians, the special needs kids, and their assistants, and now the fault of boards for inconveniently offering them up.

KenS

They also avoided deep cuts last year by deferring all maintenance that is not an immediate emergency. With 50's and 60s bldgs that have flat roofs and old boilers, you can get away with that for one year. Only.

The government was fully aware of that.

Bu no excuses, this school board failed in its job: do all the dirty work without effecting the precious government.

So now they'll be slapped up the backside, maybe out of sight thrown a little bone to keep Board members quiet.

They are axing plenty of teaching positions by the way, considerably more than proportional to enrollment declines. The Board "chose" cutting libraries over cutting even more teachers. Plus, they have looming over them the implications of what they are going to do for next year's cuts, when they have been told to expect more of the same. Got to have fiscal capacity for tax cuts and the so-called "industrial policy" buying high profile but expensive jobs, while the teachers and librarians trek out of province.

If Dexter forces a sparing of librarians, it just means more teachers who thought they seemed to still have a job will start waiting again.

Slumberjack

Can we be sure that Bob Rae is still with the Liberals?

KenS

Grammar question.

My daughter says 'Dexter LIES betrays'

Methinks it would be 'Dexter betrays...'

but 'LIES betray'.

KenS

Got my picket sign for tonight's Board meeting.

 

                 Dexter LIES

                    betray

                     NDP

                  members

 

Caissa

I'd make Dexter possessive.

ie. Dexter's lies betray NDP members.

Hoodeet

KenS wrote:

Darrel Dexter has been saying that the local school board is just playing games, and pretty much saying they will not let them cut library services.

So my wife's job may yet be spared. This has the opposite reaction you might expect with her, myself, and another of the librariarns who is also long active in the NDP: happy for keeping the job [maybe], but bullshitter Dexter just makes us want to wretch.

Hoodeet (JW)

Do you mean "retch" as in "dry heave"or "nausea"?

 

Hoodeet

Caissa wrote:

I'd make Dexter possessive.

ie. Dexter's lies betray NDP members.

Hoodeet (JW)

People in northern N.S. are probably still resentful of the increase in the HST, which drove so many people to shop across the border in N.B.  Many voters had broken with party loyalty to vote NDP, only to feel betrayed by Dexter and the party that has backed his policies.

KenS

The NDP govt gets endless plaudits from the media for good governance. It was widely accepted that the HST increase had to be done. The NDP never paid a price here for that reversal on taxes. Nor did they promise it was short term only.

The HST increase is mentioned only in passing as history. The opposition parties of course bring it up, and will continue to do so in the coming election. No one takes them seriously.

The NDP is hated and wont be able to elect anyone for a generation in SW Nova Scotia for ending the expensive [vacationers] ferry to the US. But even in northern NS the HST barely registers.

So 3 years later, you're willing to accept as an excuse that a supposedly social democratic government has a legitimate "need" to keep making severe cuts to education so they can protect themselves with a tax cut no one was demanding?

KenS

Anyone in Nova Scotia will have seen, the Premeir, the Minister of Education, and other Ministers saying how the school board used 'targeted funding' earmarked for the libraries, which the Baord allocated for other purposes.

Bullshit.

There are a limited number of actual targetted funding envelopes, and libraries are not one of them. Everything else, including libraries and unspecialized classroom eduction are just indicative figures in the allocation. It is EXPECTED that the Boards will diverge widely from them in making their budgets. A necessity under the NDP government that has been hugely heightened since the demands for cuts are so steep, and the figures dont add up.

Ironically, the 'envelopes' that do get targetted funding serve to undermine the school boards' room for budgeting. For example- special education in this Board gets $22m in seperate targetted funding. But even paring things down steeply, to meet minimum required standards they cannot budget less than $27m. And of cource, those indicative figures allocated for special education are only $22m. The shortfall difference of $5m is WAY more than the entire libraries budget.

And its like that right down the line with the REAL targetted finding- the Boards MUST fill the mandate, and they cannot do it with the targetted funding amount. So they have to rob the rest from some [already very stressed] function that is NOT targetted funding, like libararies, or classroom teachers.

Special needs education is enormously expensive and the numbers of students in it is rising MUCH faster than population. So much for the governments 'budget cuts according to population declineè.

Result: classroom teachers reduction four times greater than enrollment reduction from population decline. And total elimination of libraries- which now that the government says thist cannot be done, will have to mean more teacher reductions [salaries are 85% of budget]. And this with administration cuts,  maintenance cuts, and custodial cuts many times greater than the 1.7% pop decline.

Tax cuts paid for off our backs.

Slumberjack

Dexter Delays Fracking Decision - until after the next election.  A 'sensitive and charged' issue to be sure, considering Mulcair was next door in NB urging people to rise up against fracking.  No need for the casual observer to wonder if he'll be repeating that message for the benefit of Nova Scotians anytime soon.

KenS

Here's something personal.

I'm getting a surprising amount of pushback and hostility when I run into Dippers I know.

It's like there is this divide. There are my friends with whom I almost universally share a basic opinion of this government and what it means to us as Dippers [most of us long ago not being the least bit active]. And there are a number more who I dont know as well or just meet, who easily fall into the same general opinion sharing.

And then there are the Dippers who I know and who take some degree of offense about my opinions. Some of these people are habitually uncritical, some are not. The ones who are more inclined to be critical [over anything] are not very likely to be hostile.... just understandably taking exception with me.

It has been several years since I have been active IN the NDP. Being engaged in the leadership race is the only even partial exception to that... and even there I did not get involved with a campaign.

But the NDP is the government, and I am pretty active and to a degree public around a couple issues. So I'm around Dippers a lot anyway, as well as Dippers who I dont see but know where I stand.

Yesterday I got ambushed by a long time friend who I worked with a lot. The whole thing made me sad. And that it has already been going like this. Got a provacative prod at a school board meeting from an MLA who I like and had not personally directed anything at.

And so it goes.

KenS

Survey sent to NS NDP members in March:

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KenS

The party does follow-up on these, giving the results from those who answered. There is a reason we did not get an answer this time.

 

Note the loaded 'ask' of the first question: should we not keep our promise?

We made a pre-election promise not to raise taxes. If it was really a question it would be asking whether we need to go back and rectify that? Do people who vote for the NDP need that to vote NDP again?

Raising the HST was not sold as a temporary move, and there was and has remained a broad consensus it was necessary. The only ones who have shown any inclination to wave this arond are the sad sack opposition parties and cranks who wold never vote NDP anyway.

But all of a sudden, as soon as Dexter floats it, defenders of the faith treat it as if it was an acknowledged long standing political necessity.

KenS

But really interesting is the last question:

Should we consult widely about whether to reduce the HST, or just do it?

Already, when that was written, there is no question if the HST was going to be reduced. The brain trust had already decided that.

But there is the timing question. And its funny, but the so-called "survey" is clearly tilted towards the "Consult widely" choice.

This is what the Graham Steel on the road dog and pony show has done for the other big "questions". You ask Nova Scotians what you know enough of them will tell you the answer you want to hear. We listened. Now we do.

And as far as the "survey" goes, the Consult widely "choice" is the one that is guaranteed to sound best to the membership.

What a nice coincidence.

So this was their original communications management plan for reducing the HST. Makes sense. It has worked well before. Reducing the HST isnt part of this year's budget. Lots of time to run that one around, who is going to say we dont want a tax cut?

 

But they obviously changed their mind how to roll this out.

"Oh, that survey. Oh well."

KenS

Maybe the communications roll out for reducing the HST was changed primarily for reasons of managing the general public opinion.

But another serious 'communications issue' was bound to turn up.

Suppose it was done in the order of first this year's budget with yet more really deep cuts, then you go around 'asking' Nova Scotians whether the HST should be reduced.

One group that will be speaking up when asked is NDP members and advocates for education and social justice issues... often the same people wearing different hats. And some of them you already primed by asking them to think about it in the "survey" above.

 

So, likely "our government" felt that it was better to wrap it all up now as a done deal.

And throw in the tax cuts, [now] also something we supposedly always needed to do.

KenS

The government did a good job of staying out of sight last week.

The school boards from around the province started announcing their cuts late in the week. And this week we are supposed to get the results from the government's overseer of the board whose deep cuts Dexter said were just playing games.

Presumably we'll get the rest of the Boards announcing their cuts.

And then the tweaked government communications strategy will be....

KenS

NS NDP Chooses Austerity Management as its Agenda

Those of you around here in Fall of 2009 might remember an exchange between myself and members of Halifax Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.

I took issue with their characterization that there was nothing more to the new governments' fiscal situation messaging than buying into the continent wide ideological hysteria about debt. I meade the point that there was a real long term structural issue. As the government said: since the early Nineties government expenditures had been rising steadily with steady increases in gas royalty and equalization revenues. Those revenues had now been flat and declining for several years, and were guaranteed to decrease more.

That is a structural deficit. No two ways about it.

But in discussions among the base, this government and its legion of inside cheerleaders has turned the necessity to slay the budget into slay the budget and cut taxes..... without skipping a beat, and with no discussion whatsoever.

Who wants discussion when its convenient to just act as if everything is a self-evident necessity?

KenS

When the Budget comes in next year there will be no deficit.

There was a political and fiscal choice in how that was done, and this govermnet chose the one that completely ditched social democracy- even social democracy in tough times.

Fuck the social democracy side, we'll just go with the tough times and aren't we good managers?

Coming into the election year of 2013 with the deficit already gone came with a very steep price: austerity budgeting on steroids.

The slaying of the deficit could have been phased over 3 years instead of 2, which would substantially mitigate the depth of the cuts.

In that case the government would next year be presenting a budget that brings the end of the deficit spending, and go the people of Nova Scotia as the government who ended the structural deficit inherited from Liberals and Tories, while moderating the cuts to the social fabric as much as possible.

"And now we can get to work on Nova Scotia in the 21st Century." Or whatever.

This government has got nothing but accolades from the MSM for its fiscal management, no one has forgotten how we got here, and the two opposition parties are hapless half-wits.

KenS

Nahh... who wants that?

Fuck social democracy. Lets go for the big prize: the bad ass managers of austerity.

Slaying the deficit isn't good enough. We need to cut taxes too. Most all, we need to give back the two points of the HST we raised when we came in.

That and a bunch more of tax cuts, and being able to throw money at the Irvings and buying other expensive jobs, means that the cuts to education [and health next] will have to go deeper and last longer.

Ending the deficit spending in 2013-2014, we have to end it now. AND, the really brutal part, those cuts need to extend at least two or three years into the next mandate to pay for the tax cuts.

When its all over "we" will presided over the cutting of social spending to fit playing along with cutting government revenues.

And do that when we had the political capital, and the choice, to do the much easier job of cutting social spending to fit levelled government revenues.

1springgarden

KenS wrote:

The government did a good job of staying out of sight last week.

The school boards from around the province started announcing their cuts late in the week. And this week we are supposed to get the results from the government's overseer of the board whose deep cuts Dexter said were just playing games.

Presumably we'll get the rest of the Boards announcing their cuts.

And then the tweaked government communications strategy will be....

Yes, it will be interesting to see how the Department of Education overseer alternatively guides the Chignecto board cuts.  Education Minister Ramona Jennex said the cuts would largely be implemented by attrition, not high-profile pink slips to school librarians as with the Chignecto board.

If there is one tell-tale sign that these cuts go beyond falling enrollment, it is that the class size cap has been moved from 25 students to 27 last year and now to 29 this year.  29 and 27 students per class is just too many in my opinion.  The NDP needs to commit to getting class sizes back down as a priority.

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/02/10/nova-scotia-cuts-funding-for-school-b...

 

The problem with the Dexter NDP gov is that while "Back to Balance" fiscal austerity has, perhaps understandably, been made the first priority,  tax-cuts have been made the next priority.

The NDP has already delivered considerable tax-cuts in their first 3 years (Large Corporation, Small Business, Surtax, HST off home heating), all redistributing money back to the wealthy, and then has enshrined a further 2% HST-cut now passed into law to follow in a second mandate. 

Meanwhile education, health and other services take successive cuts with no pledge to reverse them.

With the NS NDP running a program mix of fiscal austerity and tax-cutting -- Chicago School BS  -- it doesn't leave much room for the province's Liberals and Tories to run on.  But is this the right course for the NS NDP and if not how do NDP members respond?

1springgarden

KenS wrote:

Nahh... who wants that?

Fuck social democracy. Lets go for the big prize: the bad ass managers of austerity.

Slaying the deficit isn't good enough. We need to cut taxes too. Most all, we need to give back the two points of the HST we raised when we came in.

That and a bunch more of tax cuts, and being able to throw money at the Irvings and buying other expensive jobs, means that the cuts to education [and health next] will have to go deeper and last longer.

Ending the deficit spending in 2013-2014, we have to end it now. AND, the really brutal part, those cuts need to extend at least two or three years into the next mandate to pay for the tax cuts.

When its all over "we" will presided over the cutting of social spending to fit playing along with cutting government revenues.

And do that when we had the political capital, and the choice, to do the much easier job of cutting social spending to fit levelled government revenues.

Good fleshing out of how Dexter and co are wholly bought into the Chicago School BS of austerity and lower taxes.  I'm going to compile the list of NDP tax-cutting so far.  The tax cutting is totally not necessary, the economy will improve anyway with the Ships and US recovery (exports), the tax-cutting just further impairs government services for no good reason.

Christine Saulnier's (NS office of CCPA) Rabble blog post on the HST cut is a good start at looking at NDP tax cutting.

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/alex/2012/04/hst-cut-nova-scotia-detract...

1springgarden

Nova Scotia Taxation Changes implemented and promised by NDP 2009 - 2015

2009-12   Large Corporations Tax on Capital eliminated. Changed from 0.15% rate in 2009
                 to 0% in 2012.  0% is the same in all provinces now.

2010-12   Small Business Income Tax cut by half a percent in each of 2010, 11 & 12, now 3.5%,
                 Nova Scotia among the lower third in Canada now.

2010-12   2% HST increase = +$215 million revenue rising to +$380 million in 2012.
                 Offsetting Affordable Living Tax Credit = -$53 million 2010 rising to -$70 million in 2012

2010-12   10% Surtax eliminated on $80k-$150k personal income = -$27 million
                 Fifth tax bracket created of 21% rate for income >$150,000 = +$59 million

2013-14   Balanced budget promised
                 10% Surtax promised to be re-instated on income >$80k = +$27 million
                 Fifth Tax Bracket promised to be eliminated for income >$150,000 = -$59 million

2014-15   1% HST cut = -$190 million - promised by legislation
                 Eliminate offsetting Affordable Living Tax Credit? +$35 million?

2015-16   1% HST cut = -$190 million - promised by legislation
                 Eliminate offsetting Affordable Living Tax Credit? +$35million?

 

The Darrell Dexter government certainly faced a financial mess on being elected in Nova Scotia in 2009, inheriting a $260 million structural deficit amid falling tax and resource revenues in a troubled global economy.  All-in-all the NDP has done a competent job stick-handling through 2009-12, primarily by raising the HST for badly needed revenue but also thru public sector restraint: negotiated 1% pay raises, relying on attrition to cut personnel and repeating the mantra "Back to Balance" endlessly.  In 2012, still running a budget deficit of $211 million and having promised a balanced budget for election year 2013, it's becoming very uncomfortable as year-on-year cuts increase class sizes and wait times, require layoffs to current personnel and run up against pent-up public sector demand for wage increases that keep up with inflation.  Everyone is aware, cutting that final $211 million this year to get "Back to Balance" is going to be painful.

However, Dexter, Finance Minister Graham Steele and the NS NDP have set themselves a new challenge: reduce the HST by 2% and willingly go back into structural deficit, requiring even more years of austerity as the HST cut will cause a $190 million revenue hole in 2014 and $380 million by 2015.  This is even more than the original $260 million "hidden deficit" inherited from Rodney MacDonald's Conservatives who were regarded as inept.  Willingly setting Nova Scotians up for years more of restraint, reduced services and job losses in various communities is a betrayal of the NDP members and voters who worked hard for a social democratic alternative to the Conservatives and Liberals. 

Finance Minister Steele needs to explain how, still struggling with a $211 million deficit despite all the extra HST revenue, he will not only cut the $211 million deficit by next year but then tackle the further NDP-legislated revenue gaps of $190 million in 2014 and $380 million by 2015.  Steele owes this explanation to NDP members who the party pretended to consult this month via a "survey" but then announced the HST cut within about a week of mailing out the survey.  In that Dexter and Steele have in three years only whittled down the inherited deficit by ~$50 million, to now willingly forgo $380 million in HST revenue makes it clear that they are either undertaking a desperate re-election trick (they won't deliver on the HST cut on schedule due to budget 'circumstances') or they have sincerely placed a large bet on the "Chicago School BS" of lower taxes and fiscal austerity to somehow create jobs, jobs, jobs and revenue, revenue, revenue.  Whichever it is, re-election trick or voodoo economics, NDP members are owed a full explanation of how this $380 million HST revenue cut will work before we are asked to go door knocking to defend years more cuts.

Because the numbers, they just don't add up, except as economic "shock doctrine".

 

Slumberjack

Dexter's Midnight Runners to the Health Sector Unions:  Raises = Pink Slips

Darrell Dexter wrote:
Unions, when they're negotiating, know or should know that increases in wages sometimes lead to reductions in staff.

Joan Jessome, NSGEU wrote:
We didn't negotiate a raise at the cost of people being put on the unemployment line," she told CBC News on Tuesday. To now put on to the shoulders of workers that if they get a raise it's going to be at the cost of others losing their jobs? I think that's actually shameful.

KenS

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KenS

This is funny.

Ha. Ha.

I was planning on at some point introducing into the thread on austerity budgeting, that health care and health care workers are next. [But not until after the election.]

But the Premeir beat me to it, and said it himself.

Of course, if you want to just take his words literally, then he isn't threatening anyone... he's just saying there are certain realities.

And there are.

But as to whether what he says is the whole truth, this is the same guy who last year when there was a shocked initial reaction to the outline of the austerity future in schools, said unequiovacally "classroom teaching will not be impacted." Repeated many times by Ministers and MLAs speaking to concerned parents.

Not a hint of that promise this year. It obvioulsly flies in the face of reality. And they had the 3 year plan- including more cuts next year to pay for that tax cut- when Dexter made that promise last year.

David Young

The preliminary report on redrawing provincial electoral boundaries here in Nova Scotia was released yesterday.

They advised to keep the four 'cultural' seats with lower voter counts, remove one Cape Breton seat, and another from northeastern N.S., and add two to the Metro suburbs east of Bedford Basin.

This will make for much discussion here!

 

PoliSciStudent

If trends continue Dexter seems set to lead his party to defeat. The party is 10 points behind the Liberals at 31% and only 23% want Dexter as premier.

Should Dexter lead his party into the election or is it time for him to call it quits? He has been leader for 11 years.

http://cra.ca/nova-scotia-provincial-liberals-move-ahead-of-ndp-in-voter...

Stockholm

Six months before the last Manitoba election, the NDP was losing by double digits in opinion polls. I would not count the NDP out in NS.

PoliSciStudent

Stockholm wrote:

Six months before the last Manitoba election, the NDP was losing by double digits in opinion polls. I would not count the NDP out in NS.


The NDPs fortunes rose throughout the country in those months. The NDP have had major surges in support almost everywhere and they're falling in NS.

David Young

I seem to recall a few months ago that a certain Wildrose Party was steaming ahead of the governing party in Alberta and was 'destined' to take power in that provincial election...!

Stay tuned!

 

1springgarden

What's Dexter running on in 2013, 2% HST cut, austerity?  Dumbass!  What's superstar finance minister Graham Steele running on? - Oh right, he quit this session because of Dexter's HST cut now passed into law for 2014/15.  The NDP still hasn't explained how they intend to pay for the 1% HST cut in 2014 and 1% HST cut in 2015 (but we can guess).  This election promises comedy no matter what the outcome.

Slumberjack

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Slumberjack

NSNDP Forest Policy = Shameful.  Tell your MLA

Quote:
A Halifax man has bought a billboard on Barrington Street calling the provincial forest policies "shameful."  Jamie Simpson, who has a masters of science in forestry, said Nova Scotia's woods are not being protected. His major concern is the NDP's definition of a clearcut. "They had a real opportunity to give a real solid definition of what a clearcut is and to set a real goal to work towards reducing clear cutting. Instead they've created a definition so narrow you really have to create a moonscape before it falls with within their definition," he said.

Actually, don't bother telling your MLA, as they've all been at it for years.

Slumberjack

Dexter Days:

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At a bare minimum, the NDP base had a RIGHT to expect that a Dexter victory would mean no further cuts in social services, no cuts in education funding, and no further increase in fees for working-class people.  If he couldn't even keep faith on those three very easy-to-achieve goals, what's the point of the NDP keeping him as leader at all?  It's not as though the party won because voters WANTED Dexter to be the enemy of traditional NDP values.  They weren't demanding that he be the scourge of his own freaking party, for God's sake.

1springgarden

Slumberjack wrote:

Dexter Days:

Harper Days.

I'm not so sure hard times in Nova Scotia can be laid at the Dexter NDP's feet.  It's true Dexter has not pursued redistributive policies, and instead went all-in trying to help industrial capitalism in Nova Scotia create/preserve decent jobs, a role he looked very comfortable doing (to a fault many say).  Whether Dexter's efforts work or not is still unknown, but the weak global economy and high Canadian dollar are not helping.

What also may not be helping is the Harper/Flaherty federal Conservative government:

Feds could derail balanced budget, says Dexter

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/17/ns-dexter-bal...

Quote:

Nova Scotia Premier Darrell Dexter says he's concerned the federal government could soon throw off the province's bid to balance its budget this spring.

Dexter, speaking to reporters Tuesday after a cabinet meeting, said Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is poised to release a document that could lob a "huge wrench" into the government's plans — but he didn't say what the document was.

A spokesman for the premier later said Dexter was referring to Flaherty's announcement Oct. 5 that he will be providing a fiscal update some time this fall.

Dexter may be out of touch with the base of the NDP, have some misguided policies ("2% HST cut", looks even more boneheaded now), be a supporter of industrial capitalism to a fault, etc... but the acuteness of the hard times throughout Canada are attributable to the Harper regime, in my opinion.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Don't you know Saint Tommy balanced the books over decades before he spent any money?  How many times have you heard that old canard Ken?

KenS

The government has thoroughly alienated a huge swath of the NDP's base- both those close to and far from the party.

On the surface, that looks like just the same thing that has happened to every NDP government. But the depth of the alienation beats anything that there was in SK, BC, or MT. The only rival would be the Rae government, and even that is different.

I would make the argument that the Rae government alienated its base as part of a general incompetence. They were all too green, and Bobby was too aloof. The Dexter government is just a pack of fiscal conservatives- not so bad in itself, but fatal when yoked to a slavish addiction to the neo-liberal agenda. Darrell will be elevated to his just reward of directorships when this is all over.

A big chunk of the base actually hating them and having permanently written them off has not touched their standing in the polls. When you look at the "competition," that's no surprise. We'll see if it bites them as we get closer to the election and in it.

I know of a couple fires they are not moving to put out. If they keep burning into the Spring, the stink will start to impact the government's standing.... without most voters ever explicitly deciding against them [and whether or not the fires are stoked by an issue central to them].

"What's that acrid smell?"

KenS

I wrote off the NSNDP for my involvement a long time ago. For someone with strong hunches that there were deep and incurable problems with the Dexter-O'Connor-Hebb axis, I stuck it out as a hard working insider for a long time.

When I left I knew it was not going to be short, so I'll find something else to do. But I never suspected I'd end up pouring my time into fighting what an NDP government does.

Slumberjack

Nova Scotia to outsource payroll jobs to IBM

Quote:
The 10-year deal with IBM Canada will see the information technology giant manage the government's computer system that contains provincial budget, procurement and payroll information.

Quote:
The Nova Scotia government has also entered into an eight-year agreement that will see the company get a $12.4 million payroll rebate if it creates 500 new jobs.

Quote:
Joan Jessome, the president of the Nova Scotia Government and General Employees Union, said the outsourcing goes against the basic principles of New Democrats.

I'm not so sure.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Joan Jessome wrote:

 the president of the Nova Scotia Government and General Employees Union, said the outsourcing goes against the basic principles of New Democrats.

She must have meant the basic principles when they are in opposition.  The NDP principles often change once the party is in government.

David Young

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Joan Jessome wrote:

 the president of the Nova Scotia Government and General Employees Union, said the outsourcing goes against the basic principles of New Democrats.

She must have meant the basic principles when they are in opposition.  The NDP principles often change once the party is in government.

Which is unfortunately true if the NDP takes over after six generations of Liberal/Conservative governments have left a $12 billion debt for them to deal with (or a comparative amount when the C.C.F. took over in Saskatchewan in 1944).

But did the Tommy Douglas government enact medicare in his first term?  Try during the fifth term.

Those who think miracles can happen overnight in such circumstances only show how their criticisms aren't worth listening to.

I have every confidence that the ground-work is being laid down for the Nova Scotia NDP to show the voters that they are able to govern this province in a responsible manner, given the nightmare scenario they inherited.

It's easy to complain...it's harder to build towards a better tomorrow.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

I lived in BC in the 1990's and saw the NDP pander to the right wing media and they unlike Tommy tried to balance the books on the backs of the most marginalized.  They introduced welfare "reform" that was similar to legislation that the Conservative governments in Ontario and Alberta introduced at the same time.  The kicker for me was when they froze all new spending in social services so I experienced the joy of having my son who requires many services turn 19. He lost his child services and the freeze meant no services for him as an adult.  As a single parent of a developmentally disabled young man and a long time supporter I felt not only betrayed but violated.

The Tommy story is so old and tired. He didn't cut existing services to marginalized people to balance his books.  I would be alright if the NDP followed his lead but instead they crunch numbers just like politicians from the other parties. They also make the same political calculations that say marginalized people are not the target it is the great middle class. Those who use the tired old Tommy saw just prove their views are not worth listening to.

1springgarden

Chronicle Herald wrote:

Liberal Leader Stephen McNeil said he still has concerns about the security of Nova Scotians’ information, and why the government thinks the data is better off in the private sector than where it is.

Progressive Conservative Leader Jamie Baillie said he supports the government outsourcing jobs to create more private-sector jobs.

NS Liberal leader Stephen McNeil is again to the left of Dexter.  He did the same earlier this year regarding Dexter's 2% HST cut law, pledging he would need to look at all tax revenue to see if an HST cut is affordable (hint: it's not).  I predict Stephen MacNeil's Liberals will defeat the Dexter NDP in 2013 by positioning to the left of the NDP.

Dexter's policies are tax cuts, austerity and corporate welfare.  Today, guys at work said I deserve a kick in the nuts for supporting the NDP.  I had to agree.  I told them, this is not what NDP members worked for the last 10-12 years, that NDP members are sorely disappointed.

Hunky_Monkey

On a positive note, the Dexter government announced yesterday it was amending the Human Rights Act to include protection for gender identity.  This on the Transgender Day of Remembrance.  Great decision!   

janfromthebruce

And I noted that the Liberal leader led in bashing the newly named Minister of Finance, suggesting that someone with background as a Social Worker lacked the right creditials for leading this Ministry, said person with small business background.

In fact, a social worker actually knows how to make a buck go far because they always end up working in fields that are poorly resourced. Kiss

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