World ending in 2012?
This will be a fun thread to look back upon in 2013.
Anyhow, my kid said on the weekend, "I'll bet you don't know when the world is going to end."
I said, "You're right, I don't."
He said, "Everybody says it's going to end in 2012."
Never having even heard of this prediction before, I asked him, "EVERYBODY says? Or a few crackpots say?"
He said, "Well, a bunch of people in my class say."
I laughed and said, "As I said before, a few crackpots..." He knew I was joking and we both laughed. Then I told him that he didn't need to worry.
Anyhow, so I just brushed it off in my mind as some playground silliness, until now, reading in another thread that Richard Heene believes the world is going to end in 2012. Then I did a google search, and sure enough...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
I had a couple kids ask me about this the other day, too. They said they'd heard it from their teacher! (That's hardly surprising, actually.)
You CAN'T be serious. From their TEACHER? What the heck kind of school do they go to, anyhow?
"Okay, kiddies, sit down and be quiet because you're ALL GOING TO DIE IN THREE YEARS."
You CAN'T be serious. From their TEACHER? What the heck kind of school do they go to, anyhow?
"Okay, kiddies, sit down and be quiet because you're ALL GOING TO DIE IN THREE YEARS."
It does sound pretty bad when you put it that way! I didn't ask for the details, just told them this was just another "end of the world in year X" prediction and that this had been going on for centuries. But maybe I should have asked some more questions. He or she may just have said that the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012 (which is false, anyway) but that is bad enough. Or even that some people say that the Mayans etc. Even that seems very 'unwise' however. The kids half believed it.
Cripes! Looks like it's time for me to start planning my Antarctic kite-ski trip! Expenses (and debt) be damned!
Burning Man 2012 will be crazy awesome
I can't believe that you haven't heard of this yet Michelle!
Mayan Calendar warns of Cataclysmic Roland Emmerich film on Nov. 13
I bet Iggy wishes it would end before the next election
This will be a fun thread to look back upon in 2013.
Anyhow, my kid said on the weekend, "I'll bet you don't know when the world is going to end."
I said, "You're right, I don't."
He said, "Everybody says it's going to end in 2012."
Never having even heard of this prediction before, I asked him, "EVERYBODY says? Or a few crackpots say?"
He said, "Well, a bunch of people in my class say."
Apparently our sons are in the same class, because I had a very similar conversation with mine not too long ago. What I found funny was how dead-serious he sounded when he brought it up, as if this was something he'd watched on Discovery channel.
It was either a blurb from a TV or something I passed through online somewhere which had some actual Mayan scholars talking about the 2012 prediction stuff. Basically they were laughing there asses off at all of it and calling it an unfortunately typical misinterpretation of the archealogy, the calender etc etc that started back in the early days of the 'discovery' of Mayan history and culture by western scholars and basically has snowballed from there. My synopsis of what they really were saying is 'Well the smarty pants white dudes got it all wrong, people took this wrong info, have expanded it into even more wrong, and we're all just having a good chuckle at all the people freaking out and taking it seriously.'
And explain to me why so many are sceptical about modern science (y'know crazy theories like evolution and climate change), but have no trouble believing an ancient civilization predicted the end of the world?
Weltschmerz: Same group who rejects modern medicine and believe in herbal cures, or believe in Astrology. Why? I don't know. Ask some of them.
And, when 2012 passes into 2013, another crack pot end of the world scenario will develop. It's constant. It's been going on since forever.
Which means, don't you know, that one of these days one of them is going to be right!
(more circumstantial evidence to support my hypothesis that the "string" in "string theory" is actually made from irony. Irony is the fundamental building block of this universe.)
This is really interesting. So far there are three of us in this thread who have heard about this from kids in school. Apparently playgrounds are breeding grounds for superstitious urban legends! :)
Then again, I guess they were when I was a kid, too. Nothing we kids liked better than to scare ourselves and each other with gruesome urban legends. :)
This is really interesting. So far there are three of us in this thread who have heard about this from kids in school. Apparently playgrounds are breeding grounds for superstitious urban legends! :)
And perhaps the teachers' lounge. [tried to find an appropriate smillie and gave up!]
Yes!
The world is ending in 2012.
To learn, to really learn, listen to children, and really listen to what they have to say. Children know the stuff that we may have forgotten.
Who is to say that the world is not going to end in 2012? I don't know what is going to happen in the next five seconds. Do you really believe the conspiracy that a couple of guys with paper cutters single handedly pulled the 2, or is it 3, buildings on September 11, 2001? And, do you really believe former PM Paul Martin's script that the world would never be the same after 911? Do you believe that money is really worth something? The Mayan calendar will end in 2012, but it will simply flip over another digit -- unlike modern computer systems and nuclear reactors designed for obsolescence. The Mayans thought big. Big numbers, really big numbers, really really really really really really really really really BIG NUMBERS!
I stopped using the Gregorian calendar for a year or so and used a Mayan calendar exclusively. It was quite an enlightening experience. I eventually realized that the Mayan calendar wasn't much better than the newer Gregorian calendar system because I was still relying on a system, believing in time, believing in a calendar enshrined by some so-called authority, the real Mayan calendar is quite different. It is not connected to some date in the past, the real Mayan Calendar is connected to today. And, delving further we are connected in this very moment -- the now. Listen to your children. Really listen to your children. The knowledge is not so important as wisdom. The world, as we know it, is ending.
OsaL most teachers' lounges are very scary places.
Good grief! Doesn't this just beat all? There's never enough time as it is, and now to top it all off, I have to put a rush on excavating for the Slumber Bunker.
Let's hope so. Long over due.
Possible solar storm coming(YouTube). Katrina Xs 10?
Burning Man 2012 will be crazy awesome
Yeah, good point, same with Pennsic in my circle
Hey sounds like a good excuse as any to amp up the partying.
Also I think the Myans are a bit off, my calander ends December 2011... WTF?
Possible solar storm coming(YouTube). Katrina Xs 10?
And then there's... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGaZMC8E0U&feature=related
I'm still thinkin we should party like it was solar cycle 10. Come on! Everyone needs a reason to party.
I plan on partying like it's 2013.
That's the spirit, mate. Oi! Oi@
There's even a movie called 2012. It played on the Movie Network. Silliest thingI've ever seen, although I only watched twenty minutes or so. The US prez is played by Danny Glover. Apparently there's been construction of "arks" going on since 2010 to save 400k or so of humanity. Just so incredibly dumb. Was it Fields who said there's a sucker born every minute?
W.C. I think, yes. "A fool and his money are soon parted"?
I knew it was something along those lines.
There's even a movie called 2012. It played on the Movie Network. Silliest thingI've ever seen, although I only watched twenty minutes or so. The US prez is played by Danny Glover. Apparently there's been construction of "arks" going on since 2010 to save 400k or so of humanity. Just so incredibly dumb. Was it Fields who said there's a sucker born every minute?
Silly concept, mediocre plot, AWSOME special effects.
"End of world" theories work, that is why they exist. The fear created by them has ensnared generations, millions, no, billions. Environmentalism is just the latest of isms in a series of ideologies and religions. In the end it is all about control, power, and money. Happy 2013 everyone.
Just so incredibly dumb. Was it Fields who said there's a sucker born every minute?
I've almost always heard that adage attributed to P.T. Barnum, the circus tycoon.
Thanks, I couldn't remember who it came from, so I guessed - wrongly.
Unlike religion, it doesn't take a leap of faith to believe that the end times will eventually arrive if we keep doing what we're doing to our environment. Demonstrated facts are not 'isms' or 'ideologies' in that sense. And just because the same ones who have been ushering us to the edge of planetary extinction with their industrial practices have concluded through their marketing studies that more profit can be generated by labelling their harmful products as green friendly, it doesn't make the end result as far fetched as the book of genesis.
Did someone say Genesis?
Listen to the lyrics, seriously, they're creeping me out in the context of this thread.
Slumberjack, sure, environmentalism is the new (western) organized religion. Well, ok, new and yet old. Pagans, Africans, North American first nation people and ancient sun-worshipper were already in on that one. Ever tried being a climate change heretic? The full weight of the inquisition will descend on you! All I can say to you: have no fear (of Genesis or other things that give you the creeps) and do not lead a wasteful life. When the end comes, it comes. Perhaps I want to add one item to this discussion: fear of death, probably man's most important motivator. Too bad there are so many people who feel the need to project their fears out onto others and construct all sorts of complicated ideas around that... Get on with life, will ya, you only have at most 80-90 years.
Tell that to the Christian Reformed faithful.
Let the Christian reformed and other faithful dream on about an endless happily ever after. It certainly is less harmful and definitely cheaper than drinking excessive amounts of alcohol. As long as they don't bother others with apocalyptic "end of world" visions or related heaviness, it remains a harmless passtime.
Oh and Slumberjack, I know we humans tend to have this overrated sense of self-importance, but let me tell you: the earth and the sun do not need us to exist.
Theme song for New Year's, December 31, 2011: Eve Of Destruction by Barry McGuire.
So, I know that this is babble banter and people are just trying to have a fun time. But something that bothers me about the whole world ending in 2012 thing is that people cite "ancient Mayan calendars" and such. There are still Mayan people who carry those teachings and the 2012 thing seems part of a larger colonial system that tries to make Indigenous Peoples part of ancient history. A little thing called genocide.
Anyone here actually stockpiling canned goods?
I have my generator ready, just need to load up my plastic gas tanks. Actually, every winter here, folks stockpile grocery items - particularly fresh stuff - when the supply ship goes into drydock for three months (mid-January to mid-April) until the spring. All of our supplies arrive via the MV Nordik Express as we do not have yet a connecting road to the mainland (which was promised as far back as 1944!). Actually, this year, because of the mild winter and the fact that the ice road formed very late, the ship is operating one month later than is the norm.
That's all good to hear, hope that ship shows up again this spring with all your stuff!
But no supply ship in 2012?
ps:
Well, either way make sure you place your order this fall just in case the Mayans got it wrong. And maybe double up on the Spam just in case. I suggest Turkey Spam if you can find it.
Never had Turkey Spam - is it better than regular Spam? (I haven't had Spam in years, but I remember how gross it can be if not cooked properly). Personally, I slather the stuff in mustard, if I ever have to eat it.
I like it better than regular spam. Although regular spam is OK too. Given the choice I would only buy the turkey spam. It came out a few years ago, seemed to be a market trial or some such, haven't seen in in stores here for awhile. Piss me off.
Anyways, it is pretty good. Cubed and browned it would make a more welcome addition to some meals as a meat serving as compared to regular spam. Cubed and done in a white sauce for example with some vegetables and served over pasta I really think most people could guess it was turkey spam. Or cubed, served with turkey gravy and stuffing and mashed potatoes and seasonal vegetables. I think I must have been the only person who ever bought any, and I think I only bought 6 cans.
http://www.pusateri.org/cruft/docs/spamturkey.html
Pretty good review with pictures. Like with any canned goods, buy one to start with and see if you like it or will ever open it before you rush out and buy a whole bunch.
But if you someday find yourself wearing football equipment and carrying a crossbow and manage to fight your way past all the mutants to get to the already looted and partially burned out grocery store and you find a few cans of these things that everybody else left behind, then it would be a good thing. A Righteous Thing.
Anyone here actually stockpiling canned goods?
I've got a tin of crab meat and another of oysters I've been saving for company coming. Should I go with Ritz or a real cracker?
Since it's a special occasion and all I'd say break out the fancy crackers. Ritz are so pedestrian although they do have retro stylings.
Fancy crackers it will be then. And maybe even some vino.
Well I can't see them making any Will Ferrell-like national emergency announcement or anything like that. Can you imagine what they could say? Alright, EVERYBODY PANIC!
Hey I just saw this one about Isaac Newton, the prophet.
"a time and times and the dividing of time"
2060?
Alright then, EVERYBODY PAAAANIC!
It only seems like it. I've had these cans of creamy corn for what seems like forever.
This is probably the right thread for this:
Gingrich says he'd arrest judges who go against 'Christian' views
I'm not sure I believe in 2012 being the end of the world. I do think it's entirely possible that we will see the end of the world as we know it in the next 20 years. We've overpopulated the entire planet and population density alone could cause an infectious disease to spread out of control in mere hours. Add the fact that much of todays society lacks the skills needed to survive a major disaster and open minded enough to think about what the future holds....
End of the world is just so yesterday.
We've overpopulated the entire planet and population density alone could cause an infectious disease to spread out of control in mere hours.
You make a good point. We should have stopped at 077.
Or 007?
We've overpopulated the entire planet and population density alone could cause an infectious disease to spread out of control in mere hours.
You make a good point. We should have stopped at 077.
Wow. Tough crowd. You guys always so hard on newbies?
2012 will be a year with a lot of change. There is a change in the leadership of North Korea. There is a good possibility of change in the leadership of U.S., France, Russia, and China. Iran and Israel are have very volatile relations. Civil up rising seems to be the cool trend right now. There will be a lot of political instability.
Is anyone aware of Free Dominion being down?
Either that or it's under repair and someone screwed up the detour signs.
LOL, Unionist.
Looks like we won't have to worry for awhile, but the next EOTW scenario is already gearing up for 2036 on..wait for it..Easter Sunday. Now that has definitely got some good ol' panic inducing propagandic potential.
Then just 2 years later another computer related armageddon.
But I just wish it were possible to rub these end o' worlders noses in it the day after, but it never is.
One would think they'd be utterly crushed..but somehow they remain weirdly optimistic that tomorrow will bring another possible end. Oh sure, they may be somewhat bummed about having to bring all those cases of beans back into the house, but I think they posess an unwavering hope that before their lives are over as an individual, they will live to see the rest of us unprepared fools die gruesome deaths while they're hunkered into their homemade bunkers all comfy eating mac and cheese.
One would think they'd be utterly crushed..but somehow they remain weirdly optimistic that tomorrow will bring another possible end. Oh sure, they may be somewhat bummed about having to bring all those cases of beans back into the house, but I think they posess an unwavering hope that before their lives are over as an individual, they will live to see the rest of us unprepared fools die gruesome deaths while they're hunkered into their homemade bunkers all comfy eating mac and cheese.
Well, they only need it to end once to be vindicated; we need it to continue to not end. The odds are against us. And boy, are they odd.
I'll tell you what I'll do because I like you guys. (I mean I love everyone because it's in the job description, but babblers I actually like)
I'll announce it here first before anything big happens in the end of the world department. Oh, and one more thing. The Leafs will win at least one more Stanly cup before armageddon.
Aren't you supposed to be resting up for your guest appearance this weekend?
Caissa, you must be thinking of me. It's a mistake lots of people make, but we're not even related.
I hear you're going to be my weight-loss partner in the new year.
Truth be told, I have a pillow under my suit to make me look rotund. By this time of year I'm so cranked up on benzadrine I don't keep any weight on at all.
That's great. Maybe keeping up your pace will help me lose 15 pounds before the world ends.
And so while Dawkins couldn't have picked a better name for his 'God Delusion' book, he focused on the wrong subject entirely.
And so while Dawkins couldn't have picked a better name for his 'God Delusion' book, he focused on the wrong subject entirely.
I think Dawkins collapses into a wave function if you read too much of his stuff. He was prolly a Catholic Pope at some thread in time or other.
The Y2K computer armageddon was averted because many companies and governments spent many millions of dollars over a good 5 years preparing for the switchover.
I don't know what will happen with the scheduled 2038 computer armageddon. The world could look quite different then, but I suspect people will be preparing for it either way.
I'm not overly familiar with his other stuff outside of the anti-religious genre. I do find him funny though. I suppose humour can't be avoided entirely when you're describing the ridiculous.
For "end of the world" speculation, this is my favourite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSZ2by7M9NI
"Never mind lads, we'll get a winner one day...."