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radiorahim
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The Free Software Foundation defines "free software" in the following way:

Free Software Definition


The following are some programmes that you might like to try out that meet (or almost
meet) the free software definition.   All are licensed under either the GNU General Public
License (GPL), the Lesser GNU General Public License (LGPL) or the Mozilla Public License
(MPL).

Most of these programmes are "cross platform", with versions available for Windows, MacOSX,
GNU/Linux and sometimes versions of Unix and other operating systems.


Web Browsers:

Firefox
Flock
K-Meleon (Windows only)
Sea Monkey

E-Mail and Calendaring

Thunderbird

Web Page Creation

Kompozer
(Composer feature in Sea Monkey)

Office Suite (Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Presentations, Databases)

OpenOffice

Word Processing

Abiword

Spreadsheets

Gnumeric   (primarily for GNU/Linux, the Windows version is a bit unstable)

Desktop Publishing

Scribus

Vector Graphics

Inkscape

Photo/Image Editing

The Gimp

FTP

Filezilla

Podcast Receiver

Juice

Media Players

VLC Media Player
Miro
Real Alternative (Windows only)
Quicktime Alternative (Windows only)

"Stand Alone" RSS Feed Agregator

RSS Owl

Instant Messaging

Pidgin

Audio Editing

Audacity

Video Editing (simple)

Avidemux

3D Modelling and Animation

Blender

CD/DVD Burning

Infrarecorder  (Windows only)

Streaming Audio Capture

Streamripper


Hopefully this is enough to get you started, so that you can begin to free your computer from the shackles of proprietary software.

Experiment and have fun trying out some new stuff!

 


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Well done, rr. Fight the Power.


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Any free (and fun!) games that don't take a long time to download? I'm stuck in a hospital residence until next Monday, with lousy internet access.


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Frozen Bubble is possibly THE most addictive game ever.

If you want to try it online first, click here.

Here's where you download it if you're using Windows.


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Thanks Michelle, I'll have a look!


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You might add photography:

Digikam

f-Spot

My favorite music player:

Amarok

 


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If you are going to go with free software, why not go the whole way and download an open source operating system. There are hundreds of various Linux distributions out there for the downloading. Most are highly configurable and in spite of some of the stories of past problems configuring, most are a piece of cake to install. I am not a big fan of the KDE desktop so have settled on Ubuntu with the Gnome interface. For my purposes, its quicker, safer and a breath of fresh air after a career using Windows. Virus control at this point is something other people worry about. Paying for software that doesn't live up to expectations is not an issue and software piracy is something Linux users don't need to do to cut costs.


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Frustrated Mess wrote:

My favorite music player:

Amarok

Amerok is nice and I have used it but my preference is Banshee, works well with an iPod. I installed "Sound Converter" with Synaptic to take care of some of the more obscure audio file formats.


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deleted double post.  Embarassed


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Google Picassa for Linux is handy for cataloguing digital pictures and nice for uploading to the net.


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For free games:

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Just installed Linux Mint 7 ( http://www.linuxmint.com/ ). A beautiful desktop.

ETA: With ext4. Blazingly fast.


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My Cat Knows Better wrote:

If you are going to go with free software, why not go the whole way and download an open source operating system. There are hundreds of various Linux distributions out there for the downloading. Most are highly configurable and in spite of some of the stories of past problems configuring, most are a piece of cake to install. I am not a big fan of the KDE desktop so have settled on Ubuntu with the Gnome interface. For my purposes, its quicker, safer and a breath of fresh air after a career using Windows. Virus control at this point is something other people worry about. Paying for software that doesn't live up to expectations is not an issue and software piracy is something Linux users don't need to do to cut costs.

I quite agree...but if users "get used" to running free software applications on their proprietary operating systems then it's very easy to make the switch over to a GNU/Linux operating system.

I kind of like the KDE desktop...but I'm running a Gnome desktop version of Linux Mint 7 on this notebook.   I run Ubuntu Studio edition on my main desktop right now...and have been running versions of Linux with the "lighter weight" XFCE desktop on some older machines...of PII and PIII vintage.

 


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Frustrated Mess wrote:

You might add photography:

Digikam

f-Spot

My favorite music player:

Amarok

 

 

I see that there is a bit of work being done on porting some of the KDE desktop applications over to Windows...so that Windows users can eventually get a taste of what we GNU/Linux users have been enjoying for years....but the KDE for Windows stuff is a little on the experimental side right now.

I absolutely LOVE AmaRoK as an audio player.   AmaRoK 1.4 is fantastic...for playing your audio files, streaming audio, subscribing to podcasts etc.    AmaRoK 2.0 still needs some work though.   I have 2.0 on my Linux Mint 7 machine and some of the features that I used to love on 1.4 aren't there yet...but I guess they will come.

For photography, I've always kind of liked "Gwenview" on GNU/Linux

 


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My Cat Knows Better wrote:

Google Picassa for Linux is handy for cataloguing digital pictures and nice for uploading to the net.

Google Picasa is freeware but it is proprietary software.   The license does not give you the "four freedoms" of free software as defined in the "free software definition".


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My Cat Knows Better wrote:

Frustrated Mess wrote:

My favorite music player:

Amarok

Amerok is nice and I have used it but my preference is Banshee, works well with an iPod. I installed "Sound Converter" with Synaptic to take care of some of the more obscure audio file formats.

I don't have an iPod.   I have a portable music player made by Cowon and "out of the box" it plays patent-free audio formats like ogg vorbis and FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec).    CD's ripped to FLAC format are compressed without any of the losses that you get with "lossy" audio formats like mp3.   Of course the files are quite a bit larger.

The Cowon players are the only ones I know of that will play FLAC files.

 


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In related news, Dell Computers has been obliged to

REFUND A PC USER FOR REJECTING WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEM.

Dell refunds user for rejecting Windows.

 

HOO RAH!!!!


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Firefox now offers a lovely bell add-on -

"Plays a Tibetan bowl chime at random intervals to evoke mindfulness."

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4997


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N.Beltov wrote:

In related news, Dell Computers has been obliged to

REFUND A PC USER FOR REJECTING WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEM.

Dell refunds user for rejecting Windows.

 

HOO RAH!!!!

It's possible, with some difficulty to get a refund on the Windows license.   I've seen a few stories on the net over the years where folks have gone to small claims court to get a refund.

On the bright side, Dell does offer a limited number of computers for sale with Ubuntu Linux pre-installed.   You have to dig through their website to get one though...they don't actively promote them.

 

 


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Another way to install Ubuntu Linux on your Windows machine is to use "Wubi" (Windows Ubuntu Installer).

There are a couple of ways to do it.

One way is to simply pop a Ubuntu disk into your Windows machine, and then the "Wubi" installer dialogue box pops up on your screen. You tell Windows how much hard drive space you want to allocate to Ubuntu, do a few simple mouse clicks and in a few minutes, it's installed.

When you boot up, you'll have the option of either going into Windows or going into Ubuntu Linux.

I did this on my office machine and to tell you the truth, even though Ubuntu Linux is running "inside" of Windows XP as a programme, it seems to run faster than Windows XP.

The other way to do a "Wubi install" is simply to download "Wubi" from here.

You just run the installer and it'll grab Ubuntu off the net and install it.   Obviously you'll need a high speed internet connection to do this.

Another way to make use of a GNU/Linux operating system...even if you are using a Windows computer is when you're doing secure transactions like online banking or online purchasing...particularly if you're not using your own computer and might be worried about how secure that Windows system is.

Most GNU/Linux distros these days can be run in "live CD" or "live DVD" mode...or can be installed to a USB thumb drive.

So, you just boot the machine from the "live CD/DVD" or USB thumb drive, do whatever transactions you have to do, and then when you're finished your work, just remove the media and reboot the machine back into Windows.

There won't be any records of that transaction stored on that machine's hard drive.

The beauty of GNU/Linux is that there isn't just one distribution...there are dozens of them.   So, if you happen to have an old first generation Pentium with limited RAM and hard drive space, you can find a GNU/Linux version that will make that system run.   It might not be fast but it'll work!

One of the other common "tragedies" that I often hear about is when someone takes their Windows computer into a repair shop.  Usually the machines are going to the shop due to virus or spyware infections or perhaps a corrupted Windows registry.

And these poorly trained techs "solution" is frequently to completely wipe the computer users hard drive and to then re-install Windows.   The computer user ends up completely losing all of their personal data in the process.   Often these poorly trained techs don't even tell the computer user that's whats going to happen.

GNU/Linux comes to the rescue here too.   You can just boot your machine up using a "live" version of GNU/Linux, copy your personal data off the machine onto an external hard drive or USB thumb drive.    Then once you're satisfied that you've saved everything you need to save you can do your Windows re-install (not that I'd want to do that ;)  )

Knoppix is usually the best distro to use for "rescuing" Windows machines.   I've used it plenty of times.

 

 

 

 


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For DVD or Video CD authoring you might want to try:

DeVeDe

The Windows version is available here

Windows users might also want to try DVD Flick


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Nice freeware - Thanks!


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radiorahim wrote:

Another way to install Ubuntu Linux on your Windows machine is to use "Wubi" (Windows Ubuntu Installer).

There are a couple of ways to do it.

One way is to simply pop a Ubuntu disk into your Windows machine, and then the "Wubi" installer dialogue box pops up on your screen. You tell Windows how much hard drive space you want to allocate to Ubuntu, do a few simple mouse clicks and in a few minutes, it's installed.

When you boot up, you'll have the option of either going into Windows or going into Ubuntu Linux.

Done. So my new notebook is dual boot. Thanks for the reminder, rr.

I'm having a little trouble getting the Linux OS to connect to the wireless network in the house, however. Helpful advice cheerfully accepted. Heh.

 

 


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I have become a devotee of Mint Linux -- Through freedom came elegance. It is based on Ubuntu, artfully presented, and everything but DVD decryption right out of the box. No need for libraries and codes to play media. They're already there. And software ... a dream. Start typing what you're looking for and an option on the right is 'Install". It is a Gnome desktop but I can't live without some K apps such as Digikam. Luckily they co-exist quite nicely.


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Is sea monkey just the old netscape suite updated? So it is a bit more than a web browser. (I only use it for composing webpages and it does it well enough for me.   And I have always found the learning curve for blender to be like a thousand meter cliff. Its start page is horrific and has been since the dawn of time.

I use art of illusion which has an easy learning curve.  Art of illusion is free but it has copywrite.

Perhaps you should include some screen capture programs too?

I now have a good linux screencapture program (with audio capture). Only problem is that it saves in ogg video format and my video editing program does not read ogg.

Brian

 

radiorahim wrote:



Web Browsers:

Sea Monkey

E-Mail and Calendaring

Thunderbird

Web Page Creation

Kompozer
(Composer feature in Sea Monkey)

Office Suite (Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Presentations, Databases)

OpenOffice

Word Processing

Abiword

Spreadsheets

Gnumeric   (primarily for GNU/Linux, the Windows version is a bit unstable)

Desktop Publishing

Scribus

Vector Graphics

Inkscape

Photo/Image Editing

The Gimp

FTP

Filezilla

Podcast Receiver

Juice

Media Players

VLC Media Player
Miro
Real Alternative (Windows only)
Quicktime Alternative (Windows only)

"Stand Alone" RSS Feed Agregator

RSS Owl

Instant Messaging

Pidgin

Audio Editing

Audacity

Video Editing (simple)

Avidemux

3D Modelling and Animation

Blender

CD/DVD Burning

Infrarecorder  (Windows only)

Streaming Audio Capture

Streamripper


Hopefully this is enough to get you started, so that you can begin to free your computer from the shackles of proprietary software.

Experiment and have fun trying out some new stuff!

 


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Sea Monkey is what used to be the "Mozilla Web Suite" which was Netscape before they released the software code to the community.  Sea Monkey uses the "Gecko" rendering engine just as does Firefox, Flock, K-Meleon, Galeon, Epiphany and probably a few others I can't think of off the top of my head.    Some of the Firefox extensions will also work with Sea Monkey.

I can't comment on Blender, not being someone into animation stuff.   But there seems to be alot of online help with it including this Blender Wikibook.

I find it a bit strange that a free software video editing programme can't handle a file that's in the ogg theora video format.  Wonder what you're using?   My video editing experience is quite limited... but I've had difficulty from time to time with Quicktime .mov files using free software video editing tools.   I have a video camera that shoots video in that format.

As for screencapture programmes I usually just use whatever is installed with the distro...Ksnapshot for KDE based distros and Gnome Screenshot for Gnome based distros.

 


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Frustrated Mess wrote:

I have become a devotee of Mint Linux -- Through freedom came elegance. It is based on Ubuntu, artfully presented, and everything but DVD decryption right out of the box. No need for libraries and codes to play media. They're already there. And software ... a dream. Start typing what you're looking for and an option on the right is 'Install". It is a Gnome desktop but I can't live without some K apps such as Digikam. Luckily they co-exist quite nicely.

I'm also a Linux Mint fan...current version is Linux Mint 7.  They usually build around the Gnome desktop first...but also have an XFCE desktop version for older machines with a little less computer horsepower and a KDE version for KDE fans.

I'm not the biggest Gnome fan in the world...always kind of preferred KDE but I really like what the Linux Mint folks have done with their Gnome desktop.

Many GNU/Linux developers don't include proprietary audio and video codecs, add-ons etc. in some distributions for a combination of political and legal reasons.

They require you to install proprietary stuff yourself outside of the "default out of the box" installation.   That way if for example you live in the U.S. where they have the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA), you take whatever legal risks there are installing proprietary stuff instead of the developer.

In the case of Linux Mint, the main developer is based in Ireland and his attitude is "screw the U.S." and he includes this stuff in the "out of the box" install.   But he also makes a version of Linux Mint available that doesn't include patented audio/video codecs for folks in the U.S.

In the case of Debian (the distro that Ubuntu and others are based on), they don't even include Firefox but instead distribute a modified version of Firefox called "Ice Weasel".   The Debian developers play very close to the "free software definition" and consider certain "branding" rules on the distribution of Firefox by the Mozilla Foundation to be too restrictive.

So, they stripped out all Mozilla Foundation "branding" and distribute Ice Weasel instead.

Edited to add....

Hmmm...hard to keep up-to-date with this stuff.   Apparently "Ice Weasel" is now called "GNU Ice Cat"


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N.Beltov wrote:

 

Done. So my new notebook is dual boot. Thanks for the reminder, rr.

I'm having a little trouble getting the Linux OS to connect to the wireless network in the house, however. Helpful advice cheerfully accepted. Heh.

Is it a problem with the wifi card device driver or is it a connection problem?   I know that wifi cards that are based on the "Broadcom" chipset can be a royal pain in the ass...as I understand Broadcom wouldn't release the specs of their cards to the community so that free software drivers could be developed.

Wifi cards built with the "Atheros" chipset should pretty much work right out of the box as they have free software drivers.   So, if you have to install an "add-on" wifi card and either currently use or plan to use GNU/Linux look for cards based on this chipset...they're "free software-friendly".


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Question - if you already have a bunch of programs installed on a Windows computer and then you decide to do a dual boot install of Linux, do you have to reinstall all the programs you've already installed in Windows?

Also, would you have to format your hard drive in order to install Linux with your Windows program?

I'd like to move to Linux entirely since pretty most of the programs I use now are free software, but there is one game that my son LOVES and that he plays with his friends that he can't live without - and wouldn't you know it, the people who make the game don't do one that's compatible with Linux.

So a dual boot is probably the best route for me.  I just wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to do it, that's all.


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The short answer is "No." The long answer is still "no" but leads to a whole bunch of questions like disk size? Available disk space? Desktop or Notebook? Reliable backup?


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Laptop.  Reliable backup.  Lots and lots of disk space.


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radiorahim wrote:
Is it a problem with the wifi card device driver or is it a connection problem?

I dunno. How would I know?

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Wifi cards built with the "Atheros" chipset should pretty much work right out of the box as they have free software drivers.   So, if you have to install an "add-on" wifi card and either currently use or plan to use GNU/Linux look for cards based on this chipset...they're "free software-friendly".

 

It's an Atheros product.


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How to dual boot Windows XP and Linux (XP installed first) -- the step-by-step guide with screenshots

Maybe RadioRahim, F.M., My Cat Knows Better or someone could look at this tutorial and approve of or disapprove since they seem to be the Linux gurus around here. It's for XP, and I don't know if or what the diffs would be with installing on a partition alongside Vista or Win7.


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I don't have a great deal of experience with dual booting Windows and Linux but in general as I understand if you want to do this you you'll want to install Windows first and then install Linux.   It's just because Linux can "play" with other operating systems and Windows doesn't do this so well.

Also, you'll want to first do a very thorough defrag of your hard drive before installing Linux.   Windows has this habit of spraying files all over the hard drive and you don't want to accidently wipe some essential file when you re-partition your hard drive to make space for Linux.

The other thing you'll want to watch out for is Windows overwriting GRUB whenever they issue the inevitable "Service Pack".

The "Wubi" method of installing Ubuntu is much less "geeky"...Ubuntu simply runs as a programme within Windows.   You take a bit of a performance hit when you do it this way...but I've done this on my WinXP machine at my office and I think that Ubuntu still runs faster than WinXP...even running "within" XP.

 


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N.Beltov wrote:

radiorahim wrote:
Is it a problem with the wifi card device driver or is it a connection problem?

I dunno. How would I know?

Wifi cards built with the "Atheros" chipset should pretty much work right out of the box as they have free software drivers.   So, if you have to install an "add-on" wifi card and either currently use or plan to use GNU/Linux look for cards based on this chipset...they're "free software-friendly".

If it's an Atheros card, it shouldn't be a problem with the driver.

I guess my question would be simply...what happens when you try to connect to your wifi router?


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Here are some online Linux Magazines that folks might find helpful

Free Software Magazine

Full Circle Magazine - Put out by the "Ubuntu" family of distros i.e Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio Edition etc.

PCLinuxOS Magazine - Put out by the community around the "PCLinuxOS" distribution.

Regardless as to what Linux distro you use...and even if you're a Mac or Windows user you'll probably find some useful articles in these publications.    Many of the "free software" applications are "cross platform" in that they run on GNU/Linux, MacOSX and Windows.


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Michelle wrote:

Laptop.  Reliable backup.  Lots and lots of disk space.

Then it won't be a problem. Most modern Linux distributions can resize your Windows partition to allow installation and dual-booting.


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"The Linux Link" is a website with links to dozens of Linux and free software related podcasts.

Enjoy!


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I've sent you a PM, rr. When I try to connect using Network Manager, the choices available to me are nothing like the choices that are described in the help files. It's as if my Ubuntu 8.10 is some different version from the ones they are describing.

When I click on Network Manager there is no "list" that comes up. Nada.


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the thing with 'free' software is its never really free.

like 'the map', as was mentioned last winter on a related blog, or squirrel, which has been raised many times, and seen at a police station too. 

the conundrum for me has always been that the price for access seems to be around handles.  there are obvious questions about feeling comfortable, aka being truly honest, in another's skin, about confusion for others, and also about the pollution of crass jokes and worse - commentary on things like 'father stalin' - inserting themselves into one's own name space. 

'so what?' some might say, but the problem is then trust that sensible comments to the contrary would be made, when there are time constraints, which are huge.  users of the software would be subject to the ramifications of their own invasion, and to date i haven't seen much evidence on this blog that people are willing to stand up to leninist and stalinist garbage sufficiently.  the best i got was a broken statue on the former.   so that means the movements, as evidenced here, stand a good chance of shooting themselves in the foot. 

so i remain outside, put in the odd comment when i can, but at least there is some clarity on some issues.

it's not an enjoyable space to be in.  maybe there's a way i can use my own name for clarity, keep that for my use only, and otherwise participate.  but i'm not sure what the steps are in any case.  do you people just start using eachother's names and, presto?

these are the kinds of questions i've been thinking about.

 

 

 


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and before i forget,

i understand that peoples have migrated. 

for example, while there have been tribes in the region of Ukraine traced back to prehistory, [another contradictory word], um, ok, say, accessible only through archaeological evidence,

these tribes over the centuries welcomed or otherwise integrated with tribes from other regions.  i understand there were people from Iran which crossed the Caucasus mountains and became integral to Ukrainian culture.  And where did those peoples come from ?  India? Africa originally? 

then there is the question of genes.  genes carry over from when who-flung-the-chunk. amoeba-like.  so we can't deny our animal roots.  try doing that on babble and see where it gets you.

and the question of water.  of ions.  of negative and positive charges.  of energy.

so i understand completely the compulsion of people to jump in the pool,and the reality of it.

but at the same time there are threads of continuity, of tendencies, of time and space and necessity, of limits and boundaries.

of conundrums.

and we all find life where we find it.

[i'm waiting for the rain to stop ...looking out the window]

talk later.

hope the three-fifty goes well.

 

 

 


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rr, I'm still struggling if you have any ideas. There's a local LINUX user's group, of course, but I don't really know if they will help me here.


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Check your PM's! ...hope it helps.


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Here are some Linux magazines that come in "dead tree" format.   Some of them publish their back issues...say those over six months old are archived on the site.

UK Magazines

Linux Pro

Linux Format

Linux User & Developer

Ubuntu User

U.S. Magazines

Linux Journal

Linux Magazine

 


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Thanks, rr. Problem solved.


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Distrowatch is a really great site that tracks all of the latest and greatest GNU/Linux distros.   They have links to reviews, newsletters, podcasts and all kinds of cool stuff!


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Sea Monkey "Web Suite" Version 2.0 has just been released.

You can download the latest version from here

The release notes listing the new features and issues involved in migrating from the old 1.1x versions to 2.0 are here

The internal "guts" of Sea Monkey are now the same as Firefox version 3.5.4

Sea Monkey 2.0 will not work with older versions of Windows like 95,98,ME and NT4.   Also no longer works with old versions of MacOSX (10.3 Panther and 10.2 Jaguar) and if you're on GNU/Linux or Unix you need to have GTK 2.10 or higher installed.

Sea Monkey 2.0 has an "add-on Manager" similar to Firefox so that you can add all kinds of cool "extras".

 

 


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Anyway, I just took a look and it does contain the composer AND mail/newsgroup applications.  The composer is really useful if you sometimes need to write simple webpages. And right now I do not think there is a decent "what you see is what you get" alternative to it.  I used it to make comparison charts for different solar reflector designs.  (You get 20 or 30 pictures of raw data and seamonkey composer was the only way I could get it coherent and easy to analyze.)

You make your html with seamonkey and drop it in an empty folder.  Then you run your image producing program and output the images to the empty folder.

Then when you open the html file in any webbrowser, the pictures are automatically ordered  and easily compared in the chart.

Brian

radiorahim wrote:

Sea Monkey "Web Suite" Version 2.0 has just been released.


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Anyone want to give xml editor info?  I think xml replaced html a few years ago and I was not paying attention.  There are a few gpl and some commercial xml editors but I have no clue.

Brian


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Michelle wrote:

Frozen Bubble is possibly THE most addictive game ever.

If you want to try it online first, click here.

Here's where you download it if you're using Windows.

Try this version - www.bubbleshooter.biz


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Not sure about this Brian, but just from looking through the sites of a few programmes this one... XML Copy Editor appears to be one that's been worked on most recently.    The latest version 1.2.0.4 came out in April this year...so fairly recent.    Some of the others I looked at hadn't been worked on for a few years.

It's available for Windows and Linux.   They seem to have binaries for a number of Linux distros...so possibly available in the distro repositories through the package manager software.


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"Free Software" is not quite the same as "Open Source Software". It's good to know the difference.

 

Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software: by Richard Stallman

 

Let freedom reign.


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I have a sourceforge account (not that I ever did anything there). their project of the month in october is Sweet Home 3D which allows you to arange a house and look at the result in 3d. http://sourceforge.net/community/potm-200910/

7zip always gets a mention (a zipping program for everything). the reports from sorceforge come out once a month with their 25 leading projects mentioned

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N.Beltov wrote:

"Free Software" is not quite the same as "Open Source Software". It's good to know the difference.

 

Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software: by Richard Stallman

 

Exactly...and it's why I'm in the "Stallman camp" on this issue ;)    The free software movement is a movement about changing the politics of software.   The open source movement is about removing the politics from free software.

 


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For anyone needing to create a .pdf file on Windows there's:

PDFCreator

You can also use it to create .png's, .jpg's, .bmp's etc.

 

 


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Late last week Version 9.10 (code named "Karmic Koala) of the Ubuntu family of GNU/Linux distros was released.

You can download from these links:

Ubuntu    -  The "standard" Ubuntu using the Gnome desktop environment

Kubuntu  - Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop environment instead of Gnome

Xubuntu -   Xubuntu uses the lightweight "XFCE" desktop environment...it's a good distro for somewhat older computers...say a Pentium II or III machine.   If you have a machine with low RAM...say less than 256 MB,  you're best to use the "alternate install" CD...so that you have a text-based installer instead of a graphical one.

Ubuntu Studio - A special version of Ubuntu targetted at multimedia creators...they "package" all sorts of audio, video and graphics applications with this distro.

Edubuntu - A version of Ubuntu targetted at classroom usage.

Mythbuntu - A version of Ubuntu designed for turning your computer into a PVR (personal video recorder) using the "MythTV" software.

 

 

 


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Here's an interesting article from Free Software Magazine that's in response to this article here.

I think the author does an excellent job explaining the merits of using free software both from a technical and political point of view.  He also explains the difference between the "free software" movement vs. the "open source" software movement.

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Eric Raymond and the OSI chose the term open source for a reason - that it did not convey the moral, ethical or social aspects of Free Software. In this way it appealed to business players whose support was valuable in spreading the prevalence of FOSS. Open Source is something that big business can understand and on occasion even accept. It is a development model, and for thousands of companies a business model too. It means very little when compared to Free Software. Open Source projects abound with a mess of different licenses, restricting freedoms here and there, ensuring the control and commercialisation of the project in question. Open source is the hip new buzzword of marketing execs - its a get rich quick scheme for businessmen all over the world. There is no depth to the term, there is no responsibility implied or association with freedom. Some companies and individuals may assume a greater meaning to the term open source, but that is superimposed by them - it is not part of the meaning of the phrase. Open source is the sanitised, baggage free version of Free Software. All the business benefits, none of the responsibilities or inconvenient drawbacks.

 


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Testdisk is a free software (GPL licensed) tool designed to help you with data recovery if you've got a corrupted hard drive or other storage media.  It can help you recover files that you thought were "lost forever".  It can run under DOS, Windows, MacOS, GNU/Linux, and various Unix operating systems.

It's also available on various live CD's and/or you can create bootdisks.   You'll find info here

Testdisk is also in the "repos" of various Linux distros like Ubuntu, Debian and Mandriva.

There's a companion programme called "PhotoRec" that can recover files from corrupted camera cards.

I haven't used these programmes myself, but I've got a corrupted camera card or two and I know that I'm going to need this programme to bail me out ;)   When I test it I'll let you know how well it works.


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That is awesome. Thank you. I have to try it. I have  corrupted pics from a card and maybe video too of a brave lady recovering from a cancer operation in hospital.  I always wanted to show her but they corrupted when I transfered them to the computer.

I have kept them a few years in the hope that something could fix them.

Thanks


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radio rahim ... is the Caped Crusader for free software. Ooh Rah!


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Embarassed

 

If the hard drive is physically damaged (i.e. it isn't just a software issue) here's a trick that sometimes works.

It's the "freezer trick".   You stick your hard drive in the freezer!

But first...you have to prepare your hard drive for freezing.   Put it in a sealed plastic bag and make sure that you squeeze all of the air out of it before freezing.   This prevents condensation building up on the drive.

Then freeze it for 10-12 hours.

Remove it and then either install it as a "slave" drive or put it in an external USB drive caddy and connect it up to the computer.   If it works...it'll only work for maybe 10-20 minutes until the drive heats up.   In that short space of time, you'll want to pull off as much important data as you can till the drive fails again.

Once it fails again, freeze it again and repeat until you've got whatever data you need off the drive.

This doesn't always work and if it further damages your drive, I'm not responsible ;)

If you really, really need something off the drive and have alot of money to spend, your best bet is to take it to a drive recovery service where they've got the necessary lab equipment to recover your data.

But most of us, don't have anything important enough on our drives that it's worth a thousand bucks to recover...so this is a "last ditch" possible fix before you toss it in the garbage.

 


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If you want to totally erase all of the data off of a hard drive to the point where no publicly available software can recover it you can use DBAN (Darrick's Boot and Nuke).

You just create a boot CD or floppy and it boots into a very tiny GNU/Linux operating system.   From there you can launch DBAN and it will fill in every sector of the hard drive with random numbers.

After you've done that, it's impossible to recover any data off the drive...unless maybe you're the CIA or the U.S. National Security Agency.

This is a useful tool if you're selling or giving away an old computer.   It's also useful as a drive repair tool...I've used it that way.

Contrary to popular belief, deleting a file and even reformatting a hard drive doesn't truly delete data.   It can be recovered through drive recovery software.

DBAN is the software that alot of governments use when they're putting a computer out to pasture.

Here's the Wikipedia article on it.

 

 


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That's very useful to know.  Computers are destroyed a lot  from universitys and colleges because they are security risks.   When they could maybe be DBAN ed and then shipped off to poor countries or given to poor seniors.  I never had a new computer except my netbook and they all lasted at least 3 years. So presumably a lot of scrapped computers could be saved for a few years with DBAN.  I know Comosin College in Victoria  scrapped lots of decent slower computers last year because they were security risks and a little too slow for whatever they were doing.

 My girlfriends mum still uses win 98  on the net so there is a need among seniors. (She will not let me put linux on it) because of one stupid windows game that she might lose). (Edited to add) It uses directx.  It is the only thing she is allowed to use internet explorer for on that computer.. (I do not want to keep posting and wasting your thread)

radiorahim wrote:

If you want to totally erase all of the data off of a hard drive to the point where no publicly available software can recover it you can use DBAN (Darrick's Boot and Nuke).

You just create a boot CD or floppy and it boots into a very tiny GNU/Linux operating system.   From there you can launch DBAN and it will fill in every sector of the hard drive with random numbers.

After you've done that, it's impossible to recover any data off the drive...unless maybe you're the CIA or the U.S. National Security Agency.

This is a useful tool if you're selling or giving away an old computer.   It's also useful as a drive repair tool...I've used it that way.

Contrary to popular belief, deleting a file and even reformatting a hard drive doesn't truly delete data.   It can be recovered through drive recovery software.

DBAN is the software that alot of governments use when they're putting a computer out to pasture.

Here's the Wikipedia article on it.

 

 


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Brian White wrote:

That's very useful to know.  Computers are destroyed a lot  from universitys and colleges because they are security risks.   When they could maybe be DBAN ed and then shipped off to poor countries or given to poor seniors.  I never had a new computer except my netbook and they all lasted at least 3 years. So presumably a lot of scrapped computers could be saved for a few years with DBAN.  I know Comosin College in Victoria  scrapped lots of decent slower computers last year because they were security risks and a little too slow for whatever they were doing.

 My girlfriends mum still uses win 98  on the net so there is a need among seniors. (She will not let me put linux on it) because of one stupid windows game that she might lose).

There are alot of computers that are "put out to pasture" prematurely simply because of some Windows related screwup...or due to very minor hardware problems.

A couple of years ago I came across an entire stack of Pentium IV class machines in a local dealer that had been removed from a local hospital.  Of course the hard drives had been removed...understandable...but the biggest pain in the ass was that these little plastic hard drive mounting rails had been removed too...so it made it difficult to install a "new" hard drive unless you bought these little rails (sometimes available on eBay).

As for the Windows 98 vintage game, what you might want to do is to try installing it on your GNU/Linux machine and see if you can run it using "Wine".  As long as it doesn't need DirectX, there's a chance it'll run.

 


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Although Ubuntu is a very popular GNU/Linux distro, there have been a couple of other major GNU/Linux distros that have released new versions over the last couple of weeks.

Mandriva 2010

Open Suse 11.2

 


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Fedora 12 was just released this week.   Fedora is Red Hat's "community" project.   It tends to be on the "bleeding edge" side with lots of new software and new ideas incorporated into it.   It's also a bit more geeky than other GNU/Linux distros.     But with dozens of distros available for download...some are very geeky and some are very easy and user friendly.

Unlike proprietary operating systems, free software gives you choices. :)


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Linux Mint 8 codenamed "Helena" was just released this week.

You can download the .iso image file (688 MB) from here.

Mint 8 is based on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala)...alot of folks consider Linux Mint "the better Ubuntu".   Mint 8 is only available in the "Gnome desktop" version now, but give it a month or two and you'll probably see the KDE and XFCE desktop versions out.   Right now the KDE and XFCE versions are still at Version 7.

 


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Ran into a friend today who's big into astronomy.   He was raving about the free software astronomy programme "Stellarium". 

I've got it installed on my Linux machines and have played around with it a bit...but not seriously because I'm not that big into astronomy.

My friend however, told me that he had used one of the major proprietary astronomy programmes (he told me what it was, but I forget what it's called).   Anyway, he said that the the proprietary programme was a "piece of sh*t" and did not have many of the features available in Stellarium.

Stellarium is available for Windows, MacOSX and of course GNU/Linux and is (mostly) licensed under the GNU General Public License.


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Today's release of yet another iTurd (all hail radiorahim for that one!) is a demonstration of efforts by Apple to make the technology ever more proprietary. Read the article by the Financial Times on that issue.

Hence the stronger and stronger need for genuine Free Software.

 

ETA: That article is behind a proprietary firewall. Gah.


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Looks like the Danish Parliament has voted to ditch Microsoft formatted documents in favour of the Open Document Format for all government documents.

The move apparently had "cross party" support.

This means that the Danish government is now free to use whatever office software it wants to...be it proprietary or free (as in freedom) software.   They will no longer be in a "vendor lock-in" trap just because they have to deal with Microsoft's ever changing file formats.

It's a good move in favour of open standards based computing.


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radiorahim wrote:

This means that the Danish government is now free to use whatever office software it wants to...be it proprietary or free (as in freedom) software.

Well, except for Microsoft software.

(ooohlookatmeI'mtrollingtrollingtrolling...)


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Michelle wrote:

 

Well, except for Microsoft software.

(ooohlookatmeI'mtrollingtrollingtrolling...)

Actually, Microsoft announced some time ago that they'd provide native Open Document support in Service Pack 2 of Office 2007.   Mind you  you other than in workplaces large enough to have IT departments most of the time the MS Office patches and service packs never seem to get installed.    I understand Sun Microsystems has put out some ODF plugins for earlier versions of MS Office.

In any case, standardizing on using ODF instead of .doc does give you the freedom to move away from MS Office if you want to.

 


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I picked up the following from a Linux users list locally. It relates to "the mother corporation" (i.e., the CBC in both Quebec and RoC) and may be of interest to supporters of free software. it's in the form of a blog entry from F. Rodriguez.

 

Thank you Ubuntu Quebec and Facebook


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My girlfriend has had a super experience on her laptop with ubuntu so far. (She is on 9.something, I think) I should know exactly which  but I left the cd at her place.  It seems quite a bit sweeter and probably faster than the one I have.  And my desktop should be faster than her laptop but it is about the same.

I am on  8.something on my desktop.  I am afraid to upgrade in case of incompatibilities.  BUT I have a partition with debian or knoppix on it, that screwed up in a version upgrade about 3 years ago. Could I put the ubuntu 9 there?  and have the option to go ubuntu 8 or 9 in the startup at grub?

I am just asking because years ago I had mandrake and knoppix on my computer, but mandrake used to take off  the knoppix reference in grub. I guess to only have me using mandrake.  I am just afraid of hardware incompatibilities.  About 2 years back, I went from ubuntu 7 to ubuntu 8 by the upgrade path and for about 3 months, my monitor was set at huge icons and I could not change it. Eventually a software update must have fixed it but I am afraid of something like that happening again.  (Because I have a lot of my stuff on the computer and I do not want to lose track of where I am in my projects).

O yeah, when I am at it,  I probably have several versions of the same photos and videos in files and folders on my computer now. Is there a way to  automatically delete identical versions and just stick in links to one version instead?

Thanks in advance,

Brian


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commercial spam


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N.Beltov wrote:

I picked up the following from a Linux users list locally. It relates to "the mother corporation" (i.e., the CBC in both Quebec and RoC) and may be of interest to supporters of free software. it's in the form of a blog entry from F. Rodriguez.

 

Thank you Ubuntu Quebec and Facebook

That's great work!

Yes Flash is a problem in that it's a proprietary video format controlled by Adobe.

Ogg Theora would be a much better solution as I understand it's an HTML5 standard and can be freely implemented in web browsers so that you don't need a "plug-in" or "add-on" programme to view video.   With Ogg Theora, video support can be built right into the browser.   I understand that the Mozilla Foundation is lobbying for this standard.

Recently Google purchased "On2", owners of the "VP8" video codec and the Free Software Foundation issued an open letter asking that they a) release it as a free media format and b) implement it on Youtube.

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtube


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Brian White wrote:

My girlfriend has had a super experience on her laptop with ubuntu so far. (She is on 9.something, I think) I should know exactly which  but I left the cd at her place.  It seems quite a bit sweeter and probably faster than the one I have.  And my desktop should be faster than her laptop but it is about the same.

I am on  8.something on my desktop.  I am afraid to upgrade in case of incompatibilities.  BUT I have a partition with debian or knoppix on it, that screwed up in a version upgrade about 3 years ago. Could I put the ubuntu 9 there?  and have the option to go ubuntu 8 or 9 in the startup at grub?

I am just asking because years ago I had mandrake and knoppix on my computer, but mandrake used to take off  the knoppix reference in grub. I guess to only have me using mandrake.  I am just afraid of hardware incompatibilities.  About 2 years back, I went from ubuntu 7 to ubuntu 8 by the upgrade path and for about 3 months, my monitor was set at huge icons and I could not change it. Eventually a software update must have fixed it but I am afraid of something like that happening again.  (Because I have a lot of my stuff on the computer and I do not want to lose track of where I am in my projects).

O yeah, when I am at it,  I probably have several versions of the same photos and videos in files and folders on my computer now. Is there a way to  automatically delete identical versions and just stick in links to one version instead?

Thanks in advance,

Brian

Brian...you've got alot of questions!

I've not done alot of "multi-booting" so can't help you alot there right now.   If you're upgrading from one version to another you're usually best to do a clean install...that's the case with any operating system as there are always two many incompatibilities and too many chances for there to be glitches.

That's especially the case if you're using any distro that's using the KDE desktop.  There are big changes between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x


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nancy2009 wrote:

Free PDF to Text converter which can convert pdf to text document.

 

This might be "freeware", but it is not "free software"...it is non-free proprietary software.   The license does not guarantee the user the "four freedoms".


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On April 1, 2010 Sony issued a "firmware update" for it's Playstation 3 gaming console.   What does this firmware update do?

It removes a feature called "other OS" which allowed you to install another computer operating system on your PS3 and used it as a "regular computer" in addition to being a gaming machine.  

A number of versions of GNU/Linux had been ported to the PS3...probably the best one for this purpose is "Yellow Dog Linux".

When Sony first released the PS3, the "other OS" feature was used in Sony's marketing of this device.   Now, Sony has decided to wipe this feature out with this firmware update.   While you can always choose not to install this firmware update, if you don't, many Sony services will no longer be available to you.

The question for the end user is, do you really own your electronic devices?  Or are you just a tenant?   Corporations like Sony, Apple and Microsoft would prefer you to be a tenant.


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Just a note that I put the cd of ubuntu 9 in mine, upgraded and they have gone to version 10 now so when asked if I wanted to go to 10 instead,  I decided to go to that.  It was a bit of a pain. Next time I will just download a version 10 CD. Anyway, now I have version 8 and 10 on my puter along with windows and that knoppix that went wrong all those years ago and all are in the grub list.  Thats really nice because there is some software in version 8 that is  worthwhile to keep. GTK record my desktop records your desktop to video in both versions, but it records to .ogv in the new version and .ogg in version 8

This matters because youtube can work super well with .ogg videos but it cannot convert .ogv videos yet.

The cpu is  under pressure in version 10 around 100% usage with just firefox going! but in version 8 it is at about 30%

I do not know what is going on there. I did have firefox, an image viewer, and scribus and gtk record my desktop open when I recorded my last video in version 10 and it seemed to work fine.   It took much longer to process it though and this even after the other programs were closed.

It starts up and shuts down really quickly and that is awesome.  Some of the effects are much sweeter and I am surprised that Kaffene and other programs are working differently.  If you get scribus, get the stable version.  Make sure! The develloper version is not compatible. It is not altogether clear which is which unless you use the synaptic package manager. Files saved in develloper cannot be opened with stable.

I am starting to find out that scribus is a very nice piece of work. Anyone who publishes a newsletter will love it after a bit of practice.

So thats the report.  You CAN have different versions of ubuntu on the one machine and if you can, you probably should have different versions.

If one screws up in an upgrade, you can always fall back on the other one.  (It happened to me with Knoppix or debian).

Brian

Brian White wrote:

My girlfriend has had a super experience on her laptop with ubuntu so far. (She is on 9.something, I think) I should know exactly which  but I left the cd at her place.  It seems quite a bit sweeter and probably faster than the one I have.  And my desktop should be faster than her laptop but it is about the same.

I am on  8.something on my desktop.  I am afraid to upgrade in case of incompatibilities.  BUT I have a partition with debian or knoppix on it, that screwed up in a version upgrade about 3 years ago. Could I put the ubuntu 9 there?  and have the option to go ubuntu 8 or 9 in the startup at grub?

I am just asking because years ago I had mandrake and knoppix on my computer, but mandrake used to take off  the knoppix reference in grub. I guess to only have me using mandrake.  I am just afraid of hardware incompatibilities.  About 2 years back, I went from ubuntu 7 to ubuntu 8 by the upgrade path and for about 3 months, my monitor was set at huge icons and I could not change it. Eventually a software update must have fixed it but I am afraid of something like that happening again.  (Because I have a lot of my stuff on the computer and I do not want to lose track of where I am in my projects).

O yeah, when I am at it,  I probably have several versions of the same photos and videos in files and folders on my computer now. Is there a way to  automatically delete identical versions and just stick in links to one version instead?

Thanks in advance,

Brian


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9,000 PCs in Swiss schools going Linux ONLY.

Christopher Dawson wrote:
9000 computers in Swiss schools have been dual-booting Windows and and Ubuntu for some time now in anticipation of guidelines from the Switzerland's Department of Public Instruction, whose motto is "Long Live Free Software." The Tribune de Geneve featured a story on Friday about the elimination of dual boot capabilities in all of these machines and a migration exclusively to Linux.

Why should babblers care (esp. if they use proprietary software, etc) ?

The Swiss educational authorities note  "a real convergence" between the foundations of education practiced (there) and free software. Through their community development, "they encourage the sharing and democratization of knowledge, as well as autonomy with the acquisition of skills."

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This move also levels the playing field for students who may not be able to afford computers with the latest Microsoft software:

Another advantage is not inconsiderable: Students can work at home by using free programs at the same school, which "strengthens equality of opportunity," says Manuel Grandjean... And then he says with a touch of irony, "it avoids providing captive customers for large companies ..."

Oh yea. Let freedom reign.


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Well, it's kind of the same argument as "do your own canning" and "spin your own yarn". All good ideas but not really the road to revolution - despite what the knitting enthusiasts say. 


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I think it's important for people to start pushing for free software now as technologies are advancing rapidly. The old world capitalist economy of heavy industry and making useless widgets and baubles of poor design is coming to an end. Computer software and the hardware it runs on will someday work in everyone's favour. There will be revolutionary technologies developed within the near and foreseeable future. And I think there is a strong possibility in future for those technologies to make worker and community ownership of the means of production more realistic than ever before. As Radiorahim says we should aspire to use software that fulfills the four freedom requirements of truly free software. This is an idea which we can hand off to the next generation. I think it's an important idea which deserves protecting from capitalists who have tried to murder left wing ideas still in the cradle time and time again. People may not think it so important today, but ideas sometimes have a way of taking on lives of their own. Let's hope so in this case.


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More democracy in social life IS the road to revolution, Rosa. And I understand that knitting can be lethal; just check out Madame Defarge in A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens. heh.


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Surely the co-op experience tells us something about what's wrong with this as a strategy. But I'm not going to argue about it.... Carry on with your 100 mile diets, "ethical shopping" and cultivation of inner peace Wink

 

p.s. I belong to a couple co-ops, garden a bit, and do some programming. I do see some value in these things. 


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