Bless Me Now With Your Fierce Tears XI

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That is such a huge loss. Selfless, tireless activist, where he was needed the most, admired by everyone. Long may his contributions be remembered, and most importantly, emulated.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

I never heard of the guy, but just seeing that photograph at the link showed me what a tough, righteous fighter he must have been.  If I'd met him, I'd have shaken his hand and hoped I never got on his bad side.  May he rest in power...if he actually rests...

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Ken Burch wrote:

I never heard of the guy, but just seeing that photograph at the link showed me what a tough, righteous fighter he must have been.  If I'd met him, I'd have shaken his hand and hoped I never got on his bad side.  May he rest in power...if he actually rests...

You probably don't know about his wife - Mary Beth Dolin - born in the U.S., came to Manitoba in the early 70s with him and the kids, and ... too much to tell. Became a cabinet minister in the provincial NDP government, and died tragically before her 50th birthday, if memory serves. Marty, overcome by grief, but not overcome, ran and won in her riding, and the rest is history. The whole story must be somewhere on the internet.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Which makes the man that much more remarkable.  I truly wish I'd known him.  Thanks for posting that.

6079_Smith_W

I forgot how long ago that all was (then again, I haven't lived there in almost 20 years) . And I did not know he was American.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Dolin

oldgoat

James Laxer, iconic figure of the Canadian left for many decades, died suddenly of natural causes yesterdy in Paris. RIP, and condolences to his son Michael and their family.

lagatta4

oldgoat, very sad to hear that! Thanks.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Sorry to hear of it.  Vive Le Waffle!

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

 Oh this is sad news. A friend recently sent me a copy of his book, "Red Diaper Baby". Reading it will be tinged with sadness.

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Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

David Ogden Stiers, surely best known for his portrayal of Maj. Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester III, on M*A*S*H.

oldgoat

Dr. Stephen Hawking died peacefully at his home in Cambridge last night.  Kind of hard to imagine a universe without him.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

I was WONDERING why all of those planets have been falling out of the sky this morning.  Ruined the neighbors' lawn.

Thank you, Dr. Hawking-you showed us where we live.

JKR

Fittingly Hawking passed away on Pi day (3.14). Pi day is also the birthday of Albert Einstein.

Karl Marx also passed away on Pi day which makes sense since he supported the philosophy of "scientific socialism."

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"I believe the simplist explanation is that there is no god. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. We have this one life to appreciate the design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful."

"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the universe. That makes us something very special."

Both these wonderful quotes are from Stephen Hawking. I'm glad he outlived his dire prognosis for an astounding 53 years - he taught us so much.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

bring it!

WWWTT

Lol! That’s fucking funny and ironic. The tweet of god is actually written by a person. Just like the rest of religion. The only difference is that it was probably an atheist that wrote it. 

WWWTT

JKR wrote:
Fittingly Hawking passed away on Pi day (3.14). Pi day is also the birthday of Albert Einstein. Karl Marx also passed away on Pi day which makes sense since he supported the philosophy of "scientific socialism."

ya actually to try to find symbolic meaning in a random anomaly is pretty much on par with religion. Humans today are no smarter than 200 years ago. Take all the time you want to think about that

WWWTT

oldgoat wrote:

Dr. Stephen Hawking died peacefully at his home in Cambridge last night.  Kind of hard to imagine a universe without him.

He’s over rated. Not to say I don’t believe he’s a great intellect! Or that it would have been mind blowing amazing if he was a poster here on Babble!!!!!

Its just that I believe that the pursuit of expanding our awareness of the intelligence of other life forms on planet Earth and learning to effectively communicate with other sentient beings such as Whales and Elephants and others is a way more greater goal!!!

JKR

WWWTT wrote:

JKR wrote:
Fittingly Hawking passed away on Pi day (3.14). Pi day is also the birthday of Albert Einstein. Karl Marx also passed away on Pi day which makes sense since he supported the philosophy of "scientific socialism."

ya actually to try to find symbolic meaning in a random anomaly is pretty much on par with religion. Humans today are no smarter than 200 years ago. Take all the time you want to think about that

I'll take the next year to think about that until pi day 2019. Celebrating anniversaries of births and deaths may be superstitious but I find it rewarding nonetheless. While I’m eating a slice of pie next March 14 and thinking about Hawking, Einstein, and, Marx, I'll try not to feel too embarrassed about being so simple-minded!

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Other passages of note this week include Ottawa born comedian Michael MacDonald and former NDP (Churchill) MP Bev Desjarlais.

Aristotleded24

laine lowe wrote:
Other passages of note this week include Ottawa born comedian Michael MacDonald and former NDP (Churchill) MP Bev Desjarlais.

Bev's claim to fame was to be the only NDP MP to vote against same-sex marriage, resulting in her losing the subsequent NDP nomination to Niki Ashton. Desjarlais then went on to work in the office of some Conservative MP for a time. I remember the discussion on that issue was very active on babble at the time.

Her son Kris, who is one of the left-wing city council members in Brandon, had this to say about his mother:

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"Mom lived the way she wanted to live right to the very end," Brandon Coun. Kris Desjarlais said about his late mother.

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Kris Desjarlais said his mom will be remembered for having a ton of energy, a strong spirit and staying true to her convictions — she voted in 2005 against same-sex marriage, which put her at odds with her own party and led to her being stripped of her duties as critic for the NDP.

"We went toe to toe from time to time on that, but I loved her and I know that my mom was not … homophobic; it was this religious conviction that I couldn't quite get her to come around to," he said.

"She could be so stubborn and determined."

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There was one thing she stayed true till up till her death, her son said.

"I can assure you that she was still an NDPer. She would still be voting NDP till the end."

lagatta4

I had an aunt like that. Staunch Catholic, anti-choice. Otherwise thoroughly on the left.

voice of the damned

lagatta4 wrote:

I had an aunt like that. Staunch Catholic, anti-choice. Otherwise thoroughly on the left.

Back in my days as a phone jockey for a polling company, I interviewed a guy like that on the phone, right before the '88 election. When I asked him at the beginning of the survey what he thought the most important issue facing Canada was, he said abortion, and then went into an extended anti-choice rant, which it was almost possible to pull him out of.  

Later in the survey, he declared himself a socialist, and when the questions made a passing reference to senate reform, he accused me of working for "those guys who just wanna get richer than they already are", an obvious reference to the then upstart Reform Party. After that, it was all I could do to get him to stay on the phone.  

6079_Smith_W

Saul Cherniak. Age 101

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/saul-cherniack-1.4600662

Former provincial cabinet minister, Winnipeg city councillor and life-long socialist. A social justice advocate, including fighting for the rights of Japanese Canadians who had their land taken in the way. He was also instrumental in amalgamating the City of Winnipeg.

6079_Smith_W

Roland Penner

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/roland-penner-obituary-1.4689207

Glad he lived a long life, but this is still a heavy passing.

 

Unionist

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Roland Penner

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/roland-penner-obituary-1.4689207

Glad he lived a long life, but this is still a heavy passing.

One of my heroes. Anyone who doesn't know his life, do yourself a favour and read about him. He was on the U.S. McCarthyite anti-communist blacklist until 1981 - when he was named to the cabinet of the Manitoba NDP government as Attorney General (among other positions he later held). He authored the Manitoba Human Rights Code in 1987, before many other provinces and with more progressive content. He won many honours and deserved every one. My sympathies to his family and all who benefited from knowing him or of him.

lagatta4

From the famous Penner clan? Norm Penner, Steve Penner? If I recall, Joyce Penner?

6079_Smith_W

Jake Penner, for sure.  His dad.

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/people/penner_j.shtml

I moved to town from rural Manitoba a few years before Pawley's government came in, so Penner's stint as Manitoba's Attourney General is part of my early engagement in things political.

As for the family name, it is a very common Mennonite one, at least in Manitoba, and there is a small grocery chain by that name further west. Like a number of old world family names, its origin is actually derogatory. In German it is a nasty word for beggar. A couple of friends of mine burst out laughing the first time they saw it on a sign here in Canada.

 

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