The Green Party candidate for the B.C. riding of Fleetwood-Port Kells has resigned over a quotation about rape on his Facebook page.
The Surrey Leader newspaper...reported that, on the Facebook page, Mr. Saldanha's favourite quote was listed as: "If rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it!"
And what is really vomit icing on the BS GP cake was part of the press release by them about it below.
Quote:
Mr. Green said the party has a social media vetting process, but officials learned of Mr. Saldanha's comment only shortly before the Surrey Leader story came out.
"What had happened was our organizers had actually caught that statement earlier and had got him to take it down and we were just in the process of working that out when it became public news, and at that point the candidate offered to resign and we accepted," he said.
Then of course additionally was the lie stating EMay has been the only leader to discuss women's issue so far in the campaign, which is trivial I suppose given the toxic rape comment.
Kota Kinabalu: Several Sabah women leaders on Sunday demanded a public apology from Kota Kinabalu Umno pro tem head, Haji Roselan Johar Mohamed, and asked him to retract his "outrageous" remarks about rape victims which they feel are an insult to women's intelligence.
While closing the "Legal Literacy Seminar" for Women on Saturday, Roselan had remarked, among others, that "If you cannot fight rape, better lay down and enjoy it."
Guess he did not go past his assholeness to think about the implications contained in his words/thoughts like: babies and children should be told to "just lay back and enjoy it" if rape is going to happen to them.
Say nothing about the sense of male privilege contained in such a thought process, or lack thereof, whatever the case may be.
I was feeling sorry for E. May as I assumed this was very hurtful but now I know that she already knew and her party intended to remove the comment and keep the person who said it as a candidate -- sorry but my sympathy melted away.
The NDP would have lost my vote if they had done this as well.
I realize there are assholes out there. That is no surprise.
My problem is that the Greens would run a candidate who said that -- after they knew about it -- thinking just taking down the comment was good enough.
The Liberal candidate here (Manicouagan) had to step down, too - and is running as an Independent. It's a bit of a mess though - Ignatieff fired him when he heard his anti-Innu remarks, but it was too late under the Electoral law - so apparently his name is still on the Liberal ballot, but I'm not sure of that.
My problem is that the Greens would run a candidate who said that -- after they knew about it -- thinking just taking down the comment was good enough.
Actually, there is an issue beyond that too, not that that is not just about as bad as it can get, as apparently the social media scanners that they used to vet their candidate's sites did not see anything wrong with his FAVOURITE quote, and thus over looked it in the 1st place
At first I thought this was a quote that he posted during the campaign in reaction to something, the fact that it existed before the campaign makes this completely unacceptable. By this I mean it is one thing to be 'blind sided' by a candidate saying something in public that requires their removal but the fact that this was a quote that was visible for some time is outrageous. There is also the troubling, rambling quote from an interview that tried to explain this as a cultural issue and not a violence against women issue.
"I think the intent of it [the quote] was meant to be different than what the actual words were that were used," Purton said by phone. "But he, because he's, I guess, his background is a different culture, he's used inappropriate words to sort of explain an objectionable, in our culture, to sort of explain a simple concept. So unfortunately, even though it was removed within five minutes of him being told about it, and over a week ago, it's become apparent that it's gotten into cyberspace, and it spreads like a fire after that."
There is no justification or acceptable use for this quote in ANY context. Facebook scrutineers??? In the time it took for him to apply to be the nominated candidate and the nomination contest itself and prep for the election campaign it is unacceptable that no one from the riding association or party read his facebook page. As a former candidate and Green Party member I'm not only embarrassed by this bullshit but continually frustrated by the old style politics of "cover it up quick" attitude.
The Surrey Leader newspaper...reported that, on the Facebook page, Mr. Saldanha's favourite quote was listed as: "If rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it!"
And what is really vomit icing on the BS GP cake was part of the press release by them about it below.
"What had happened was our organizers had actually caught that statement earlier and had got him to take it down and we were just in the process of working that out when it became public news, and at that point the candidate offered to resign and we accepted," he said.
Then of course additionally was the lie stating EMay has been the only leader to discuss women's issue so far in the campaign, which is trivial I suppose given the toxic rape comment.
Disgusting.
He's not the first politician to (evidently erroneously) try to fob this off as Confucian wisdom.
Malaysian politician Roselan Mohamed also gave it a go.
Kota Kinabalu: Several Sabah women leaders on Sunday demanded a public apology from Kota Kinabalu Umno pro tem head, Haji Roselan Johar Mohamed, and asked him to retract his "outrageous" remarks about rape victims which they feel are an insult to women's intelligence.
While closing the "Legal Literacy Seminar" for Women on Saturday, Roselan had remarked, among others, that "If you cannot fight rape, better lay down and enjoy it."
Yes, it is disgusting cathcfire, on many levels.
Guess he did not go past his assholeness to think about the implications contained in his words/thoughts like: babies and children should be told to "just lay back and enjoy it" if rape is going to happen to them.
Say nothing about the sense of male privilege contained in such a thought process, or lack thereof, whatever the case may be.
I was feeling sorry for E. May as I assumed this was very hurtful but now I know that she already knew and her party intended to remove the comment and keep the person who said it as a candidate -- sorry but my sympathy melted away.
The NDP would have lost my vote if they had done this as well.
I realize there are assholes out there. That is no surprise.
My problem is that the Greens would run a candidate who said that -- after they knew about it -- thinking just taking down the comment was good enough.
The Liberal candidate here (Manicouagan) had to step down, too - and is running as an Independent. It's a bit of a mess though - Ignatieff fired him when he heard his anti-Innu remarks, but it was too late under the Electoral law - so apparently his name is still on the Liberal ballot, but I'm not sure of that.
Actually, there is an issue beyond that too, not that that is not just about as bad as it can get, as apparently the social media scanners that they used to vet their candidate's sites did not see anything wrong with his FAVOURITE quote, and thus over looked it in the 1st place
At first I thought this was a quote that he posted during the campaign in reaction to something, the fact that it existed before the campaign makes this completely unacceptable. By this I mean it is one thing to be 'blind sided' by a candidate saying something in public that requires their removal but the fact that this was a quote that was visible for some time is outrageous. There is also the troubling, rambling quote from an interview that tried to explain this as a cultural issue and not a violence against women issue.
quote from article in the Georgia Straight: http://tinyurl.com/3gqnnz5
"I think the intent of it [the quote] was meant to be different than what the actual words were that were used," Purton said by phone. "But he, because he's, I guess, his background is a different culture, he's used inappropriate words to sort of explain an objectionable, in our culture, to sort of explain a simple concept. So unfortunately, even though it was removed within five minutes of him being told about it, and over a week ago, it's become apparent that it's gotten into cyberspace, and it spreads like a fire after that."
There is no justification or acceptable use for this quote in ANY context. Facebook scrutineers??? In the time it took for him to apply to be the nominated candidate and the nomination contest itself and prep for the election campaign it is unacceptable that no one from the riding association or party read his facebook page. As a former candidate and Green Party member I'm not only embarrassed by this bullshit but continually frustrated by the old style politics of "cover it up quick" attitude.
Except maybe, by way of paraphrase. Just substitute the word "majority" for "rape", and you have Harper's electoral modus operandi...
No...not even by way of a paraphrase.
Except maybe, by way of paraphrase. Just substitute the word "majority" for "rape", and you have Harper's electoral modus operandi...
Please don't go there.
Words cannot fully express just how offensive this is on far too many levels.
Men that do not get this ought not to stand for public office and should not be respected for it.
Once said the statement can not be a building block or renovated. It is disgusting in every way.