Brian Topp: "What Awaits The NDP in 2019?"

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Brian Topp: "What Awaits The NDP in 2019?"

Brian Topp has a piece in an upcoming issue of Policy Magazine which can be read here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1010535179138043&set=a.168439270...

He berates the "romantics." One of his derisive terms for the party's perpetually beaten-down, and now drifting away, left-wing, who "unhelpfully agitate to make the NDP politically irrelevant and unelectable." Also known as "leftier-than-thou showboaters."

You know; the kind of people who admire Bernie Sanders. (Yes, this is what it's come to.)

To Topp's thinking, the NDP's problem is the faction that's resolutely ignored at convention and forever shut out of any policy and strategy decision making.

I find it astonishing. And - because, what's left? - hilarious.

 

NDPP

I continue to be amazed by the snakes and self-aggrandizing hustlers Canadian 'progressives' allow, endorse or support to occupy positions of power. No wonder there is no truly progressive national grassroots party or political movement  here at such a historically propitious time.

JeffWells

NDPP wrote:

No wonder there is no truly progressive national grassroots party or political movement  here at such a historically propitious time.

That's what makes this as much a tragedy as a comedy.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Being from BC here is the part of this political sage's resume that I remember the best.

BC election defeat (2013)

Topp was brought to Canada's West Coast by Adrian Dix, the provincial leader of the Official Opposition, to manage the 2013 election campaign for the British Columbia New Democratic Party. Despite starting with a significant lead in pre-election polls, the BCNDP campaign failed to prevent the re-election of the Liberals under Premier Christy Clark and actually won fewer seats for the party than in 2009. Topp admitted that he made certain "errors in strategy" that might have harmed the campaign.[48]

Other work

Topp announced in early 2013 that he was joining with potential political opponents to create a new public-affairs strategy firm Kool Topp & Guy with conservative Ken Boessenkool (former advisor to Stephen Harper and Christy Clark) and liberal Don Guy.[49] Topp left the firm to work as Alberta Premier Rachel Notley's Chief of Staff, and was replaced by longtime NDP activist Jamey Heath.[50]

 

Unionist

I thought that Topp had long since hit bottom. Thanks for proving me wrong!

josh

One degree left of the Liberals.  Yeah, that’s the winning ticket.

JeffWells

Determined to "modernize" the NDP even if it kills it, and it did. But at last the NDP is fit to meet the challenges of 1990.

WWWTT

I met Topp in his campaign office at the Toronto convention centre for the 2011 NDP leadership convention (more like confronted him) and asked him about bill c-377. He admitted he never heard of it and I had to explain to him about it and labour’s approach. In fact, most of the candidates were caught off guard by my questions. I’m thinking they were so focused on trying to win that they forgot what was important. 

Brian Topp Brian Topp's picture

Hi you guys. I’ve missed you too.

This discussion is a misrepresentation of what I say in that article — Jeff Wells cherrypicks snippets because he wants to be offended. 

WWWTT

Hi Brian, thanks for joining in on the debate!

Canada is an imperialist country and some of us socialists here have a problem with that. 

Myself I seriously doubt that a country with corporations that use “democracy” to control and maintain profits will ever allow the NDP any serious responsibility in running the country. 

I find it shameful that there are those in the NDP that want to sell out the brand to the corporations to gain power. 

JeffWells

Brian Topp wrote:

Jeff Wells cherrypicks snippets because he wants to be offended. 


 

Hey, it's your cherry tree. As for wanting to be offended, that's the last thing I wanted. But like Elvis Costello said, "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused." After a lifetime of rationalizing the party's half-measures and missteps, that sums up my relationship to the NDP these days.

NorthReport

And Brian Topp's business partner is who again?

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Gee Brian I read the whole article and I thought he cherry picked very appropriately. Around here only using quotations and linking to the article is standard procedure.   Thanks for giving me and my family four extra years of Christy. Your arrogant dismissal of many NDP members is why people like me who have worked on many campaigns and served for years on Executives of winning riding associations can't be bothered even sending a donation anymore. Why don't you just join the Liberal party and work for your incremental change from within that party?

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Brian Topp wrote:

Hi you guys. I’ve missed you too.

This discussion is a misrepresentation of what I say in that article — Jeff Wells cherrypicks snippets because he wants to be offended. 

Brian, the reason you are getting blowback is because you are attacking NDP activists...the "romantics" as you so sneeringly call them, when in reality the activists have been disregarded, disrespected, and driven away by the party for decades, when they aren't to blame for ANYTHING disapponting that's happened to the party at the polls.

 Every decision the party has made which ended up costing it votes was made by YOUR crowd, the dismissive, antidemocratic "shut up and do what we tell you-we're the party and you're not" crowd.  What could you possibly blame the activists and the Left FOR? And what is it that the Left has advocated that you are so terrified of? Was it ever THAT essential, for example, to block good peoplel from being NDP candidates just for acknowledging that Palestinians are human beings and that they don't deserve the misery Netanyahu and his predecessors in the Israeli government have inflicted on them?  Also, why are your sort of NDP insider types so fixated on driving away social movement types, when the social movements are the only part of the center-left or left where any energy or political effectiveness exists?

 

josh
wage zombie

Hi Brian, nice to see you back here.  I am curious to hear what you think of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

wage zombie wrote:

Hi Brian, nice to see you back here.  I am curious to hear what you think of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

And Jeremy Corbyn.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Brian may be back, but he isn't actually engaging the discussion.  His contributions to this thread are essentially "drive-bys", reflecting his insider attitude that he is somehow above having to actually make a case for something or fully elaborate on what he is talkng about.  

Aristotleded24

Let's see if I'm understanding this correctly. In 2011/2012, Thomas Mulcair ran a campaign attacking the "romantics" within the NDP, and argued that the party needed to be realistic. Topp came in and paints himself as a leftie, who says we can win as social democrats. Now he's writing an article disparaging these same "romantics" he said he supported in 2011/12, while also speaking highly of Roy Romanow, who himself declared that he was a Blairite before the term "Blairite" existed?

Completely sleazy, dishonest, and reprehensible on the part of Mr. Topp. It boggles my mind that good people such as Libby Davies and Ed Broadbent did not see through that.

This piece confirms that given the options that were on the table, the NDP made the right decision in 2012.