Canada federal election October 21, 2019 part 2

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Trudeau, and most, if not all of us here at rabble, can thank our lucky stars Lisa Raitt in not the Conservative leader right now.

RAITT: Maybe it's Justin Trudeau who ‘experienced it differently'

 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/raitt-maybe-its-justin-trudeau-who-experienced-it-differently

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NorthReport wrote:

 

Trudeau, and most, if not all of us here at rabble, can thank our lucky stars Lisa Raitt in not the Conservative leader right now.

RAITT: Maybe it's Justin Trudeau who ‘experienced it differently'

 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/raitt-maybe-its-justin-trudeau-who-experienced-it-differently

The Toronto Sun? Sigh. Let the parade of 'progreessives' cheeerleading the CPC begin. Sad.

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NorthReport wrote:

Scheer is Trudeau's biggest asset! 

So Scheer will help re-elect the Liberals? Excellent. Thanks for the good news.

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Exactly!

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NorthReport wrote:

 

Trudeau, and most, if not all of us here at rabble, can thank our lucky stars Lisa Raitt in not the Conservative leader right now.

RAITT: Maybe it's Justin Trudeau who ‘experienced it differently'

 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/raitt-maybe-its-justin-trudeau-who-experienced-it-differently

The Toronto Sun? Sigh. Let the parade of 'progreessives' cheeerleading the CPC begin. Sad.

Not only that, but a Conservative MP

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Is Trudeau now a lame duck leader?

Former cabinet ministers have Justin Trudeau in their sights

 https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2019/03/22/former-cabinet-ministers-have-justin-trudeau-in-their-sights.html

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Watching Trudeau at his Town Hall Meeting today it sure looks like he has had the wind taken out of his sails, probably because of Jody Wilson-Raybould's comments that she will continue to communicate with the Justice Committee but this time in writing, and also because he now has an unhappy Caucus. Trudeau is beginning to look like a scared rabbit, who is trying to avoid getting caught.   

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Ha! Ha!

 

Trudeau dismisses the need for a blanket waiver and says Wilson-Raybould is free to speak

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/03/22/jody-wilson-raybould...

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Pondering wrote:

I'm actually getting a little tired of JWR and Phipott dropping hints and refusing to speak while remaining committed Capital L Liberals that fully support the Liberal agenda in every other way. Are they taking a moral stance or making a power play within the party? If what the Liberals did was so bad then sit as independents or join/support the NDP. As it stands their support is for the Conservatives. 

Without knowing the truth behind this it is hard to second guess their decision.

I believe that if they left the LPC this would dissipate any pressure that exists to allow them to be heard. It would give the Liberals no reason to relent. I think their stance is on principle but if they left the party it may be read only as something else.

Without the missing information, I think it is impossible to evaluate fairly why they are doing what they are. For me they have more credibility that their party or leader, however.

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Trudeau must go if the Liberals hope to win the next election as  the chances of a police investigaation into the SNC scandal is increasing 

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/03/23/Trudeau-Must-Go-Says-Martyn-Brown/

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So obviously orchestrated from the PMO as a zero credibility cabinet minister joins the absurd Liberal fray against JWR and Philpott

https://globalnews.ca/news/5086208/karina-gould-snc-lavalin-scandal-jody-wilson-raybould/

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Pathetic and hopeless Scheer thinks a 2013 gotcha political moment is going to help elect a Conservative government 

https://globalnews.ca/news/5089130/scheer-trudeau-basic-dictatorship-remark-trade/

voice of the damned

The Tyee said:

Martyn Brown, who as premier Gordon Campbell’s chief of staff handled scandals buffeting the B.C. government during the 2000s, thinks that this week Trudeau has moved closer to the brink of disaster. The heightened prospect of an RCMP investigation makes Trudeau an anchor sinking the party he once rescued with his leadership.

Never mind "the prospect of an RCMP investigation", the UCP in Alberta is right now being subjected to an actual RCMP investigation, and are still the odds-on favorite to win in April. Basically, if voters like a party, or hate the likely alternative more, they'll find a rationale to shrug off any allegations of wrongdoing.

Caveat: Things could change if either Kenney or Trudeau end up being escorted away by the police in handcuffs. Otherwsie, it all just gets written off as a few bad apples.  

 

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Trudeau must go if the Liberals hope to win the next election as  the chances of a police investigaation into the SNC scandal is increasing 

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/03/23/Trudeau-Must-Go-Says-Martyn-Brown/

From the comments:

"If Trudeau gets a knock on his door by the Mounties any time soon, he might want to give Brown a call for a bit of advice."
Mr. Brown's advice would surely be to plead amnesia, as he so skilfully did during the BC Rail trial.
To describe him as a "veteran of scandal management" is like calling a Mafia boss a "protector of society"

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Doesn't look good Liberals, it just doesn’t!

The delicate task of caucus management

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2019/03/24/the-delicate-craft-of-caucus-management.html

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Devastating Question Period on CTV today for Team Trudeau

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Ha! Ha! Ha!

But don't worry, the smear campaign has already begun.

Justin Trudeau needs to remove Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott from caucus

https://globalnews.ca/news/5091630/justin-trudeau-jane-philpott-jody-wilson-raybould/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014

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NorthReport wrote:

 

Ha! Ha! Ha!

But don't worry, the smear campaign has already begun.

Justin Trudeau needs to remove Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott from caucus

https://globalnews.ca/news/5091630/justin-trudeau-jane-philpott-jody-wilson-raybould/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014

That well known Liberal...Tasha Kheiriddin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasha_Kheiriddin

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Justin Trudeau’s only way out of this scandal

Admit mistakes. Call an inquiry. Ask for forgiveness. This is the only way forward and anyone who is truly loyal to the PM will tell him this.

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/justin-trudeaus-only-way-out-of-this-scandal/

Pondering

Maybe unions should consider co-creating a separate organization for general labour that would have support but be able to raise money separately. Its mandate would be to improve government labour standards.

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ANALYSIS: Biggest peril for Team Trudeau is that Liberals are at war with each other

 

Once, when Trudeau caught wind of a whisper campaign emanating from anonymous Liberal sources who were trying to put Wilson-Raybould in a bad light, Trudeau stood up and condemned that campaign and those who would engage in such character assassination from the shadows. It did, one should note, take about a week for him to get around to doing that.

But confronted with what is inarguably a harsher campaign from the shadows against Wilson-Raybould, Trudeau uttered not a peep and failed to condemn the leak of this confidential information. Maybe he’ll get to that next week.

 

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/5096992/justin-trudeau-liberal-party-jane-philpott-jody-wilson-raybould/

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This is disgusting!

Shame on you Liberals!

‘This is wrong’: ex-Supreme Court candidate says his candidacy is being used to further an agenda

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/5094485/wilson-raybould-trudeau-glenn-joyal/

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Read this and weep!

On the elimination of inconvenient Liberals

Welcome to an offensive on Charter rights—This was the week it became necessary to destroy the village of good government in order to save it.

 

We have learned so much. Within minutes Monday afternoon, two good reporters had stories (here and here) about the Chief Justice of Manitoba, who was a candidate to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada and who, later, wasn’t. Both reporters unfurled similar yarns about a lone Prime Minister standing athwart the tide of conservatism by blocking—shudder—a Harper appointee from sitting on the top court. Jody Wilson-Raybould plays the role of villain in the piece.

Both reporters decorously neglect to mention that Trudeau’s choice for Chief Justice, Richard Wagner, was a Harper appointee.

There are many things we can say about this story, working outward in concentric rings from the thing itself. First, Glenn Joyal’s views, as expressed in speeches that were said to alarm the prime minister, are almost comically orthodox. I first became aware of the notion that Charter litigation systematically airlifts important matters from the parliamentary arena and into the realm of jurisprudence in a Chantal Hébert column in the late 1990s. If I had paid more attention to literally any of my Canadian public administration profs a decade earlier I would have caught the argument then, because it is canvassed in every Canadian political science class. This is not wild-eyed Hayekism.

Second, perhaps the many thousands of Canadians who have applied for federal government appointments under what they thought was a confidential process, introduced by this prime minister, will want to contemplate a class-action suit against him. Because it is now radiantly clear to each of them that their CV is being held hostage by a claque of embattled sorcerers’ apprentices who will cheerfully wheel it over the transom to any waiting scribe if anything about them—their opinions, a fallen political star’s unfortunate decision to argue for their advancement—becomes politically inconvenient. This is the very stuff of the police state.

It was immediately fashionable to wonder on social media how everyone would react if Stephen Harper had done such a thing. It’s germane to note that Stephen Harper never did. Because he had more class. Welcome to the Tet offensive of Charter rights: This was the week it became necessary to destroy the village of good government in order to save it.

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Third, Justice Joyal’s wife was in poor health. Apparently we are to believe that 9,000 jobs depended on your knowing that.

 

If the Trudeau government is not the source of the leak, I assume we will see spectacular efforts deployed in the next 36 hours to find the leaker. Mark Norman-scale efforts. But I’m pretty sure that we needn’t hold our breath, because the government is the source of the leak; that the amiable chap who currently sits in the office once occupied by the Attorney General of Canada will not bestir himself to question Monday’s sickening attack on due process; and that the leak will actually be roundly applauded by the ambient cloud of Liberal and Liberal-adjacent opinion, which became self-aware this weekend and decided Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott are a virus endangering the party’s re-election chances and must therefore be stopped.

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/on-the-elimination-of-inconvenient-liberals/

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Using Manitoba judge for political agenda disgraceful, says local lawyer

https://globalnews.ca/news/5098617/using-manitoba-judge-for-political-agenda-disgraceful-says-local-lawyer/

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Is this an appropriate role for the CBC, and if it is, then let loose the attacks on the biased CBC.  

And these pathetic unproductive political discussions on shows like Power and Politics where Liberals defend Liberals, and Conservatives defend Conservatives, and nothing of any consequence ever gets an appropriate airing. Most of the time Canadians would be much better off with dead airtime.

At this point, the Philpott-Wilson-Raybould end game is obvious — destroy Trudeau

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-philpott-wilson-raybould-end-game-1.5070419

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This SNC scandal is not only not fading away, it is growing larger and larger with each passing day. I am actually quite shocked at how low the behaviour is of some Liberals, and it is makes me wonder if Paul Martin's people somehow are still involved in running things.

Leak detailing Supreme Court appointment rift only shows how little Trudeau’s camp respects the rule of law

 

The core question in the SNC-Lavalin affair is whether Justin Trudeau and his advisers respect the rule of law.

The answer appears to be that they have no respect for it at all, after an unnamed source, in an effort to smear former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould, fed reporters a story about a dispute over choosing a judge for the Supreme Court.

Even Liberals are furious over the leak to The Canadian Press and CTV, presumably from someone inside the Trudeau government.

“It is outrageous that there is a leak with respect to the Supreme Court judicial appointment process,” Toronto Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith told the House of Commons ethics committee on Tuesday. “People from all parties ought to condemn that kind of thing.”

According to the reports, Ms. Wilson-Raybould recommended appointing Manitoba judge Glenn Joyal to the Supreme Court as chief justice in 2017, but Mr. Trudeau vetoed the recommendation because he thought Justice Joyal brought too conservative an interpretation to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The implication from the leaker: Mr. Trudeau rightly began to question the judgment of his attorney-general long before the issue of whether to prosecute SNC-Lavalin emerged.

Members of the Liberal old guard are not pleased. The leak “involved extremely confidential information about applicants to the Supreme Court,” tweeted Penny Collenette, who was director of appointments for four years under Prime Minister Jean Chrétien. “Shockingly bad form.”

“Agree,” replied Senator Percy Downe, who served as Mr. Chrétien’s chief of staff. “Appalling behaviour.”

The leak certainly didn’t go down well with Justice Joyal, who is Chief Justice of Manitoba’s Court of Queen’s Bench. Immediately after the story broke, he issued a statement saying that, in fact, he had withdrawn his name from consideration for the Supreme Court after his wife was diagnosed with cancer. 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-leak-detailing-supreme-court-appointment-rift-only-shows-how-little/

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Suddenly, New Attention for List of Harper-Era Abuses

Traffic surges for Tyee’s 2015 compilation of 70 Tory law and ethics breaches.

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Andrew Scheer, now Conservative leader, with then PM Stephen Harper. People are widely sharing a four-year-old Tyee tally of Conservative government abuses of power from 2006 to 2010 amidst the scandal gripping the current Liberal government. Photo by Adrian Wyld, The Canadian Press.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/03/25/New-Attention-Harper-Era-Abuses/

 

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Liberals, you say you want JWR and Philpott to speak, yet you close down the Justice and Ethics Committees where they could speak. WTF!

'A cavalcade of contradictions and cover-up,' claim Tories as Liberal majority shuts down further SNC-Lavalin testimony

The six Liberals on the ethics committee out-voted the Conservatives, who had two votes, and the NDP, who had one, and the motion failed

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/pm-stays-mum-on-clash-with-wilson-raybould-over-high-court-pick-leak-of-info

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Is this an appropriate role for the CBC, and if it is, then let loose the attacks on the biased CBC.  

And these pathetic unproductive political discussions on shows like Power and Politics where Liberals defend Liberals, and Conservatives defend Conservatives, and nothing of any consequence ever gets an appropriate airing. Most of the time Canadians would be much better off with dead airtime.

At this point, the Philpott-Wilson-Raybould end game is obvious — destroy Trudeau

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-philpott-wilson-raybould-end-game-1.5070419

It's called an opinion piece. They're allowed. Did you object to this one?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-s-verbal-porridge-and-serene-smile-have-carried-him-along-until-now-neil-macdonald-1.5044266

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Not only has the story been leaked, we do not even know if the leaked story is factual. Just sayin'

Trudeau Liberals — and the Anonymous Sources — hit rock bottom

To imply Glenn Joyal is a threat to Canadians' rights is pure demagoguery. It makes 'Why do you hate the troops?' sound like something out of Plato's Republic

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-trudeau-liberals-and-the-anonymous-sources-hit-rock-bottom

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JWR is poking the Liberals in the eye, but Team Trudeau is terrified of what could happen to their support if the Liberals kick her out of Caucus

Wilson-Raybould says leaks of Supreme Court pick dispute should be investigated

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/wilson-raybould-says-leaks-of-supreme-court-pick-dispute-should-be-investigated-1.4354359

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How to change the channel on SNC-Lavalin? Let’s attack a judge!

Politics Insider for March 26: Chief justice drawn into SNC-Lavalin saga by leaks, SNC disputes its own CEO and the ethics committee gets its turn

 

Then two separate news reports emerged claiming that relations between Trudeau and Wilson-Raybould began to deteriorate in 2017 after she picked a conservative judge, Manitoba Justice Glenn D. Joyal, to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court. The multiple sources who leaked the details claimed Trudeau opposed the appointment because he felt Joyal wasn’t committed to LGBTQ and abortion rights. In response, Wilson-Raybould denied there was any conflict, and pointed out in all-caps that communications about Supreme Court appointments are typically “CONFIDENTIAL … I do however find it extremely worrisome why you are even asking such questions and where you received any such information. Commentary / reporting in this regard with respect to a SCC appointment(s) could compromise the integrity of the appointments process and potentially sitting Justices.” (CTV NewsCanadian Press)

The sources also claimed Trudeau overruled Wilson-Raybould to reject Joyal. Yet in a statement, Joyal said he withdrew his application for the Supreme Court position himself because of his wife’s metastatic breast cancer. “Regrettably, that detail was omitted from the now published media reports … I fear that someone is using my previous candidacy to the Supreme Court of Canada to further an agenda unrelated to the appointment process. That is wrong.” (Twitter)

Not okay: Legal scholars and lawyers wasted little time in expressing their outrage about the stories. “Joyal should *never* have been put in the position of responding publicly to the scurrilous stories published today,” tweetedUBC law prof Dr. Emma CunliffeAdded constitutional scholar Emmett Macfarlane: “That anyone would leak this in an attempt to discredit Wilson-Raybould says a lot of troubling things.”

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/how-to-change-the-channel-on-snc-lavalin-lets-attack-a-judge/

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What is Trudeau waiting for?

Trudeau must follow Ardern’s lead on gun control

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2019/03/26/trudeau-must-follow-arderns-lead-on-gun-control.html

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NorthReport wrote:

What is Trudeau waiting for?

Trudeau must follow Ardern’s lead on gun control

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2019/03/26/trudeau-must-follow-arderns-lead-on-gun-control.html

 

Not going to happen. 

Can't afford it, unless you have a billion dollars sitting around somewhere you can tell Trudeau about.

Or unless Trudeau wants to confiscate a billion dollars of private property from law abiding Canadian citizens.

Not to mention the lost jobs and bankruptcy from many Canadian businesses. We know from the SNC scandal just how important job loss is ;)

The Liberals will push through the lame bill C-71 which doesn't even mention gangs or criminals. Good job lol

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I don’t know nothing, I didn’t see nothing, and I can’t do nothing. How convenient. What a farce!

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2019/3/27/1_4354359.html

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What’s the matter with Trudeau as he appears to be coming unglued?

https://globalnews.ca/news/5104937/justin-trudeau-protester-liberal-fundraiser/

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Sure took Trudeau a long time to deny that the PMO was the source.

Perhaps just long enough to plant seeds of doubt and create more confusion.

Does anyone believe him anymore?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-leaks-snc-lavalin-1.5074979

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Governments of all shapes and sizes need to come clean

Top bureaucrat wrote 60-page memo to Trudeau about Mark Norman case, lawyer says

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/03/28/top-bureaucrat-wrote-60-page-memo-to-trudeau-about-mark-norman-case-lawyer-says-3/#.XJ0KxetKig7

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Singh needs to share this with Canadians so they can find before the election what they can expect if Scheer were to become PM

Harper, Serial Abuser of Power: The Evidence Compiled

The Tyee’s full, updated list of 70 Harper government assaults on democracy and the law.

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/

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could you please have a look at this, study it, learn from it...please.

4:08 PM - 29 Mar 2019

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Time and time again, ‘s journalistic integrity leads the way! Justin Trudeau reminds us of what’s worth being truly angry about https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2019/03/29/justin-trudeau-reminds-us-of-whats-worth-being-truly-angry-about.html … via

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FYI here's where the docs will be posted: http://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/JUST/StudyActivity?studyActivityId=10485882 …

1:04 PM - 29 Mar 2019

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      Conversation should have ended at the 10 minute mark when Wernick said that JWR's decision was clear.

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