Canada federal election October 21, 2019 part 2

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TRUDEAU THROWS SHADE: ‘Thanks for your donation’ to First Nations protesters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55IsVW5uESk

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‘The sun is setting on Justin Trudeau’: Grand Chief Stewart Phillip on ‘arrogant’ PM response to protesters

 

The mounting political pressure on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing his true colours for Canadians, one prominent Indigenous leader says.

In an interview with the West Block’s Mercedes Stephenson, Grand Chief Stewart Phillip said the allegations of attempted political interference at the heart of the SNC-Lavalin scandal and the resulting outcry over the affair are likely linked with Trudeau’s “smug” response to Indigenous protesters at a Liberal donor party last week, for which he was forced to apologize the next day.

“Now that he’s under tremendous pressure from the Jody Wilson-Raybould/SNC-Lavalin issue, Mr. Trudeau is really revealing himself to be who he really is, which is a very self-centred, conceited, arrogant individual and I think that was demonstrated with his very smug, mean-spirited response to the Grassy Narrows demonstrators,” said Phillips, who is also president of the B.C. Union of Indian Chiefs.

“He’s such an arrogant individual. It’s very disturbing and very disappointing.”

WATCH BELOW (March 29): Secret recording of Jody Wilson-Raybould’s phone call with Michael Wernick on SNC-Lavalin released

A video posted to Twitter on Wednesday night showed Trudeau delivering a speech during an event for some of the Liberal Party’s biggest donors at the luxury Omni King Edward Hotel.

Protesters interrupted to call for action from Trudeau to help the First Nations community of Grassy Narrows, which has long suffered the effects of mercury poisoning from industrial dumping.

Trudeau responded to protesters by saying repeatedly, “Thank you for your donation,” while donors gathered in the crowd around him laughed and cheered as the protesters were removed from the venue.

Phillip said that response from the members of the Liberal Party was striking to him.

“Quite honestly, I think that the clip that we witnessed, the most disturbing part of that clip apart from the smugness and the mean-spirited remark on the part of the prime minister was the spontaneous applause from the Liberal Party members who were attending,” he said.

Phillips called the response “a reflection of the heart and soul of the Liberal Party, which for many decades has had this sense of entitlement.”

The B.C. Union of Indian Chiefs previously issued a scathing condemnation of anonymous attacks being made to media on Wilson-Raybould’s character and competencies at the beginning of the SNC-Lavalin affair. Trudeau came out and condemned the remarks several days later.

WATCH BELOW (March 27): ‘Thank you for your donation,’ Trudeau says to First Nation protesters at Liberal fundraiser

Trudeau has for years made reconciliation with Indigenous people a core part of his government’s mandate as well as his public image.

But his treatment of former attorney general Wilson-Raybould — a high-profile former Indigenous leader and lawyer — has led to criticisms that he is failing to show the kind of leadership he professes to advocate for on how he treats Indigenous Canadians.

Phillips said as far as he is concerned, Indigenous people are “used to Justin Trudeau’s apologies and alligator tears.”

Trudeau’s response to the protesters and how he is handling the concerns raised by Wilson-Raybould in the SNC-Lavalin affair leave Phillips and Indigenous people angry.

“There was going to be seismic change,” he said of the promises made by Trudeau to Indigenous people.

“As time has moved forward, all of those promises have been simply swept aside and have not come to pass and here we are six months out from the next federal election and we’re faced with the Trudeau government totally unravelling, coming apart at the seams,” Phillips said.

“Without question, the sun is setting on Justin Trudeau.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/5112732/justin-trudeau-snc-lavalin-grassy-narrows-reconciliation/

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For Canada’s sake, just GO, Trudeau

 

  • The prime minister says he wants Canadians to focus on

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  • The prime minister says he wants Canadians to focus on "more important issues" than SNC-Lavalin.PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE

Oh, Canada. No need to worry our pretty little heads any further about the Trudeau administration’s potentially criminal political interference in the SNC-Lavalin criminal prosecution.

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Jody Wilson-Raybould’s new testimony to the Commons justice committee, including her mind-blowing recording of her December 19 telephone conversation with Michael Wernick answers it all.

So sayeth the man who orchestrated Canada’s worst-ever attack on a sitting attorney general, on the rule of law, and on its central tenet of prosecutorial independence: our once beloved prime minister, whose approval ratings are now lower than Donald Trump’s.

We’ve reached the end of his tortuous road to nowhere on LavScam, according to the statement put out late Friday by PMO communications director Cameron Ahmad, in response to JWR’s latest evidence.

All the facts are on the table now, and everyone involved has shared their perspective, including the Prime Minister,” it declared [Emphasis added.]

“We are focused on moving forward as a team on the issues that matter to Canadians and governing in the best interests of the country.”

As opposed to moving even further backward through a misplaced focus bent on further ripping Team Trudeau apart, by throwing its most popular MPs out of caucus over their principled conduct on this issue that its leader has concluded doesn’t really much matter to Canadians.Though I would not for one second bet against the prospect that the Liberals hungry for revenge are so bat-shit crazy as to conspire to boot JWR and Jane Philpott out of caucus this Wednesday (April 3).

Every step of the way, they have proven that they are too dim to realize how their actions have added insult to their own collective injury.

Why should we expect them not to further aggravate that reality by kicking JWR out of their “family”?

Especially after the feast on Saturday attended by some 500 people, who came out in Campbell River, B.C. to the Kwakwaka'wakw nation feast hosted to celebrate and honour Puglaas, whose Indigenous name translates as "woman born to noble people". 

And considering that the NDP has just nominated Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs vice-president Bob Chamberlin as their candidate for the upcoming federal byelection, just over 150 kilometres down the road, in Nanaimo-Ladysmith.

If this scandal has shown anything, it is surely that the Liberals’ nuttiness knows no bounds.

Liberals are dreaming if they don't believe the expulsion of Jody Wilson-Raybould from caucus won't benefit NDP candidate Bob Chamberlin in the Nanaimo-Ladysmith by-election.

Liberals are dreaming if they don't believe the expulsion of Jody Wilson-Raybould from caucus won't benefit NDP candidate Bob Chamberlin in the Nanaimo-Ladysmith by-election.

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Trudeau claims he was never fully briefed

Enough is enough, the PMO pretty much declared in its statement.

“The Prime Minister took responsibility for the situation..."

The “situation” being how he marshalled his most senior hired guns to try to bend Puglaas to his unseemly will, and then fired her as AG, precisely as she feared he would, when he couldn’t get his way.

Anyway, what’s done is done. And he swears he didn’t do it.

Rest assured, we are told, he was never “fully briefed” by Wernick on how his conversation with Puglaas went and he was “unaware of the full contents of this recording before today”.

After reading that, my first reaction was "right".

Like we are all to believe that of the man who never lied when he said that "The allegations in the (February 7) Globe story are false. Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office to take a decision in this matter."

Believe it. Like Richard Nixon was “not a crook".

Then again, according to a CBC story, a statement put out on Saturday from Wernick’s lawyer says that Wernick "never discussed SNC again with the PM or PMO until someone leaked the story to the Globe and Mail in early February." So that’s that.

Stupid us, Canadians.

And here most of us who listened to that recording, who read that new evidence, and who have been closely following this scandal might have thought that it all raises so many new questions and concerns that scream out to be formally scrutinized by the RCMP.

How wrong we are. All our concerns should now be put to bed, Justin Trudeau says.

Stupid, stupid us.

How could we ever think that there is any more to the gross wrongdoing that is at the root of this story that might warrant a police probe, or a public inquiry, or further investigation from a parliamentary committee?

In Trudeau’s mind, there is simply no need to ask any questions of the multiple witnesses who are central to this scandal who were never obliged to testify, let alone under oath.

There is no need to ascertain whether anyone acted unlawfully in respect of s. 139(2), s. 423.1(1) and/or s. 122 of the Criminal Code, or may have violated the Lobbying Act.

The RCMP should know that all the facts are now on the table and should reject the appeals from Conservative leader Andrew Scheer and from the five former attorneys general who have all urged it to get to the bottom of the matter that Trudeau’s Liberals are trying so hard to bury.

No need to investigate how and what privileged information might have been possibly illegally shared and used to try to pressure JWR into politically intervening in a criminal prosecution in a way that might never been done before in Canadian history.

No need to investigate what, if any threats SNC-Lavalin did or did not make in respect of moving its head office from Montreal, costing Canada 9,000 jobs—both of which, its president and CEO, Neil Bruce, emphatically denied having ever made.

“Yes, the 9,000 people will get a job,” Bruce said. “I have no doubt whatsoever about that … But they’ll be working probably for a U.S. company.”

No need to investigate what the company or its agents really did or said in lobbying for a special deal to avoid a criminal trial, which Bruce suggested he never requested on economic grounds. A claim that would seem to contradict his company’s presentation to federal prosecutors last fall on options it was considering if it failed to get a DPA.

No need to investigate how those false threats about Canadian job losses and SNC’s potentially imminent HQ closure in Canada were used—either deliberately or unintentionally—as “public interest” arguments to justify a DPA.

No need to investigate, as Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre wondered, whether anyone endeavoured to “trick” JWR with specious public interest arguments into overruling the director of public prosecutions in order to save the company from a criminal trial.

No need to investigate how or if cabinet might have been deliberately misled in that regard, or what it may have been told before or after the January 14 cabinet shuffle, about any plans by the government to give SNC-Lavalin its multi-million-dollar wish for a DPA.

No need to investigate the degree to which the prime minister’s personal partisan interests and his party’s electoral interests factored into the inappropriate pressure repeatedly exerted on Canada’s top law officer, to give that company a DPA.

A company that also donated over $100,000 in illegal contributions to the Liberal party over the span of a decade.

A company facing fraud and corruption charges that neither the AG nor the DPP considered it appropriate not to prosecute—alleged crimes that the OECD has now put Canada on notice it is deeply concerned about, given what has so far surfaced in this scandal.

No need to search for any more truth, when the truth that has emerged is so damning in its own right.

You can only go to hell once. Trudeau’s better angels have told him, salvation awaits those who deny what they’ve done and lie to themselves that all their alleged sins have been exposed. No reason for him to admit anything or to beg for mercy.

The facts are all known. There is nothing more to be found out.

The Great Oz has spoken.

Video: Watch the famous "Surrender Dorothy" scene in The Wizard of Oz.

Trudeau wants us to look the other way

There is no wickedness here. “Surrender Dorothy” was never written in the sky in black smoke. There were no flying monkeys dispatched to terrorize the brave figure who led us all down her fantastical yellow brick road.

It is as true as the conclusion that Canada’s unapologetic wizard of his own misfortune is not at once the dishonest and bewildered little bully behind the curtain, the cowardly lion, the tin man without a heart, and his own straw man without a brain.

Poppies. Poppies. That’s the ticket, Canada.

Best we all just lie down now and go to sleep on this scandal that has dragged on for two months.

Let’s all turn the page and move on, Trudeau urges with mock humility and healing calm.

Time to focus on what’s really important.

Like the prime minister’s heroism in resisting those truly evil attempts by JWR to wish upon Canada that charter-hating judge as chief justice of the Supreme Court.

That is, so long as it does not involve formally investigating the possibly criminal leak behind that false proposition.

So long as it does not mean identifying and potentially prosecuting that unknown person, who attempted to smear the “true villain” in this piece by deliberately smearing Chief Justice Glenn Joyal of the Manitoba Court of Queen’s Bench with false and highly privileged information.

No need to investigate that action by someone whom we are assured—no fingers crossed—is not in the prime minister’s office, nor who is his official agents’ secret agent.

An asserted fact about which they are so sure they see no reason to prove it about an action, it must be said, that both Trudeau and his current attorney general so “strongly condemn” they have decided it’s not worth investigating.

Nope. We have heard and learned all there is to know. Which is more than Trudeau’s nefarious leaker(s) ever wanted us to know, thanks to the swift and brutal responses from Justice Joyal, from the Law Society of Manitoba, and from the Canadian Bar Association.

No need either to let former cabinet minister Jane Philpott speak and tell us what she is not at liberty to share, solely because the prime minister in whom she could no longer serve in good conscience as a member of his cabinet has refused to waive her oath of cabinet confidentiality.

Even though she assures us that there are, in fact, “further issues of concern that I’m not free to share … There’s much more to the story that should be told.”

No need to “put up or shut up”—as Liberal MP Judy Sgro so famously chided both Philpott and JWR.

The latter has now royally “put up” and the prime minister has again concluded for the umpteenth time that “shut up” should suffice.

Former cabinet minister Jane Philpott says there's more to be learned about the SNC-Lavalin story.

Former cabinet minister Jane Philpott says there's more to be learned about the SNC-Lavalin story.

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PM insists he didn't know about phone conversation

Despite his best efforts to silence JWR from offering her most recent testimony, with the help of his Liberal flunkies on the Commons justice and ethics committees, more facts materialized and that should be the end of it.

“Thank you very much for your donation”, Trudeau may as well have said in response to JWR’s latest protests. “I really appreciate the donation to the Liberal Party of Canada.”

Now kindly leave the room and take your mercurial poisoning of our “more united than ever” Liberal “family” with you.

“Reconciliation” is simply not part of his vocabulary in any honestly meaningful sense. The video proved that point.

Crocodile tears at best is all we can expect, especially in this instance, where the victim of his abuse caused us all so much grief by speaking her truth to power.

In Trudeau’s apparent takeaway of all that has unfolded, it’s so sad that she created that “erosion of trust” by opening her big mouth instead of shutting up and doing what she was asked, even though she was studiously never explicitly told to do it.

It’s so sad that she misinterpreted his meaning and intent, before he fired her as his AG.

He “should have spoken directly with [her] about this matter—and wishes that she had come to him.” Poor, negligent, Jody.

For Heaven’s sake, how many more times does Trudeau or his apologists need to say that?

Don’t we get it?

She failed him and her party by never putting her concerns about the veiled threats, bullying, and inappropriate and sustained political pressure in writing.

She could have spared our country so much unnecessary pain if only she had come to him (OK, besides on September 17) and told him how she really felt.

Because, after all, why on Earth would she ever surmise that expressing her concerns directly and repeatedly to his top bureaucrat, to his top political adviser, to his office’s most senior political staffers, or to his finance minister would ever reach his ears?

Why, it is as unduly presumptive as imagining that Michael Wernick would ever fully report to him on his nonthreatening, most forgettable conversation that he initiated on Trudeau’s behalf to make JWR see the sensible light of day that had somehow escaped her ill-advised attention.

The conversation in which Wernick said, “I think they [SNC-Lavalin] have made direct representations to the prosecutor though...and they tried to make the public interest argument and so on and so on. But they gave the impression that they are not being listened to so...”

(A fact that he would know, how? And from whom? About a “public interest argument” that he apparently personally counselled the company should take to the director of public prosecutions, Kathleen Roussel, according to handwritten notes of the meeting he had with its CEO on September 18.)

Shudder the thought that the prime minister was ever “fully briefed” about that conversation in which Wernick repeatedly ignored JWR’s advice that “I am trying to protect the Prime Minister from political interference or perceived political interference or otherwise.”

Which prompted him to respond, “Alright, I understand that... but he does not have the power to do what he wants... all the tools are in your hands so...”

The December 19 recorded phone call between Jody Wilson-Raybould and top civil servant Michael Wernick has kept the SNC-Lavalin story at the top of newscasts.

The December 19 recorded phone call between Jody Wilson-Raybould and top civil servant Michael Wernick has kept the SNC-Lavalin story at the top of newscasts.

JWR raises spectre of Saturday Night Massacre

Perish the suspicion that the prime minister was ever apprised of that final attempt at simple reasoning, in which Wernick said, “He [Trudeau] is asking you to use all the toolsthat you lawfully have at your disposal...um.” [Emphasis added.]

Including the one “tool” of directing the DPP to do something that both Roussel and JWR had decided would not be appropriate to use—as Wilson-Raybould had personally told the prime minister and all who were sent to convince her to use it anyway.

Sure, to we—the great unwashed—that might sound a lot like the prime minister actually tried to direct JWR to do the one thing she would not agree to do. But it wasn’t meant as such, it always being “her decision” and all.

All an unfortunate misunderstanding of so many conflicting personal “interpretations” of fact and perceived experience, best swept under the rug for good.

Why should we ever imagine that Wernick would personally fill his boss in on every nitty-gritty uttering from that telephone call? I mean, apart from the fact that he “never wore a wire” and all.

And apart from the fact that he actually said, “well, I am going to have to report back before he [Trudeau] leaves...he is in a pretty firm frame of mind about this so...I am a bit worried...”

We can all sleep so much easier now, confident that the prime minister was never told by his most senior civil servant that Wernick had suggested to JWR “it is not a good idea for the prime minister and his attorney general to be at loggerheads.

That he was never told of Wernick’s warning to JWR that “he [Trudeau] is quite determined, quite firm but he wants to know why the DPA route which Parliament provided for isn't being used.” A question Trudeau never dared again put directly to his attorney general after her admonition in his September 17 attempt to convince her to change her decision.

No sirreee, Wernick never apparently told the PM about his gentle and almost apologetic threat-that-wasn’t to JWR: “I think he is gonna find a way to get it done one way or another. So, he is in that kinda mood and I wanted you to be aware of that.”

We can all hold Trudeau harmless, knowing that he was never briefed about his beleaguered attorney general’s most colourful comment: “So I am having thoughts of the Saturday Night Massacre here Michael to be honest with you and this is not a great place for me to be in—I do not relish this place—but what I am confident of is that I have given the prime minister my best advice to protect him and to protect the constitutional principle of prosecutorial independence.”

Once again, Trudeau would have us believe that he is innocent of all he never knew and that he doth not protest too much.

If only because neither his right-hand man nor his top legal adviser ever directly protested (for a second time) to him that something very rotten was taking place in his Denmark.

Except, perhaps, for this telling comment in that call made by JWR, which we are assured Wernick also failed to relay to his boss:

“I made it very clear at the cabinet table and other places that these tools are at the discretion of the prosecutor—and everybody agreed to that and that there was no guarantee that there would be a DPA in this or any other case.

“So we are treading on dangerous ground here —and I am going to issue my stern warning—um—because I cannot act in a manner and the prosecution cannot act in a manner that is not objective, that isn't independent, I cannot act in a partisan way and I cannot be politically motivated. All of this screams of that.”

Poor, Jody.

“I am waiting for the … other shoe to drop, so I am not under any illusion how the Prime Minister … gets things that he wants,” she told Wernick.

And drop, it did, exactly as she anticipated, as Jane Philpott warned Trudeau that JWR feared it would, before he lowered the boom and turfed her from the office that she never called “her dream job”.

Before he “offered” her the Indigenous Services portfolio that she had specifically “told his transition team and others that I could not and would not in good conscience ever be able to take on the Ministerial role of delivering services to ‘Indians’ and Indian Actbands…” A role that she explained in her latest testimony “is understood as that of the ‘Indian Agent’ ”—a term typically used in “a derogatory fashion”.

Poor us, the PM would have us now believe, if we are also waiting for other shoes to drop and are still operating under the illusion that he won’t get what he wants.

Don’t we get it?

The PMO statement essentially declares that the final shoe has already dropped.

Trudeau doth command it. And above all, what he wants now is to get beyond this distraction that only really amounts to a bunch of contested facts that are now “all…on the table”.

Never mind that we know only a handful of facts about that December 18 “emergency meeting” between JWR’s chief of staff, Jessica Prince; the prime minister’s former principal secretary, Gerald Butts; and the PM’s chief of staff, Katie Telford.

Facts that include the email to Prince with the subject heading “URGENT” that was sent precisely 44 minutes before she was summoned to attend that 5 p.m. meeting.

Which makes hash of Butts’s testimony that he did not regard that as an emergency meeting.

What more would we hope to accomplish by asking the RCMP or others to explore what was really said in that meeting?

What of it, if Butts and Telford pressured Prince to convince Wilson-Raybould to hire an external counsel—“someone like Beverly McLachlin”—prompting Prince to tell them “that would be interference”?

To which Butts allegedly responded with his most damning line, “Jess, there is no solution here that doesn’t involve some interference.”

What of it, if the facts support Prince’s report?

Surely the RCMP would have no cause for concern if it was true that “KT thinks it gives us cover in the business community and in the legal community, and that it would allow the PM to say we are doing something. She was like, ‘If Jody is nervous, we would of course line up all kinds of people to write op-eds saying that what she is doing is proper.’”

What of it, if, as JWR testified “My [chief of staff] asked what if the [requested outside legal] opinion comes saying, ‘She can review it, but she shouldn’t’ or simply, ‘She can’t review it’ end of story?”

To which, Mr. Butts allegedly stated, “it wouldn’t say that.” No alarm bells, there.

A question of fact that JWR went on to stress “My COS informed me that she remembered this very clearly because this response made her nervous.” As indeed it would, for all its implied suspicions of such “independent” advice being initiated for its foregone conclusions.

What of it, if Prince accurately reported to her boss that “Katie was like ‘we don’t want to debate legalities anymore' ”?

No need for the RCMP or anyone to ask any of those attendees about those facts as asserted in Prince’s text message and in JWR’s testimony. Unless Canada’s law enforcement officers think it worthwhile to ascertain what was actually said and meant, in weighing any evidence pointing to a possible obstruction of justice.

Former prime minister and ex-attorney general Kim Campbell was mentioned by Gerald Butts in defence of Trudeau's wishes.

Former prime minister and ex-attorney general Kim Campbell was mentioned by Gerald Butts in defence of Trudeau's wishes.

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Kim Campbell's name pops up

Ditto for Prince’s report that “Gerry told some story about how Mulroney met with David Milgaard’s mom, walked into the cab[inet] room and told Kim Campbell she had to fix it.

“She gave him all these [attorney-general] reasons why she couldn’t interfere but then she ultimately did what Mulroney wanted”, “By Gerry’s telling, it was because Mulroney told her that she had to find a solution.”

According to the PMO’s statement, it should be enough to know that, as JWR has now testified, she personally met with the Right Honorable Kim Campbell the very next day after that meeting, to check out that outrageous claim.

That would be the same Kim Campbell who is currently the chairperson for Canada's Supreme Court Advisory Board.

Who cares that she was “quite offended and outraged by the comments” and told JWR that they were utterly untrue?

Pish, posh.

What’s another assault on the tenet of prosecutorial independence with yet another alleged and potentially defamatory fabrication, aimed at justifying an intervention that the prime minister wanted?

In this case, by sullying the name of a former Conservative AG and prime minister in the process.

Butts is gone. Wernick is going. Wilson-Raybould and Philpott have both resigned.

It’s all good.

Except that none of it is.

All of it is not just bad; it as rotten as can be—and quite possibly criminal at its core.

As Wilson-Raybould put it to Wernick:

“Does [Trudeau] understand the gravity of what this potentially could mean—this is not about saving jobs, this is about interfering with one of our fundamental institutions. This is like breaching a constitutional principle of prosecutorial independence." 

Evidently not, for as Trudeau’s clerk answered, “Well I don't think he sees it as that...” And besides, the prime minister was never fully briefed on that conversation.

I submit, it is the facts we still don’t know and that the prime minister still hopes to hide that cry out to be exposed.

The one thing we should all know enough by now is this sorry reality.

Never has any Canadian prime minister been so dishonest, deluded or factually discredited in his “version” of events in a scandal of such significance in the dangers it poses to the rule of law.

That fact is clear. And it is why for Canada’s sake, Trudeau must just go.

His actions and cover-up are beyond redemption.

His leadership is an embarrassment to our country and an affront to the highest values of his office.

His command of the truth is as lacking as the honesty of his office’s response to JWR’s latest evidence.

I hope and pray that the RCMP is not content to do nothing. Indeed, I predict again that it will not be content to dismiss the limited truths that are now on the table as “just” a political controversy that warrants no further investigation.

All the facts of what really transpired beg to be rooted out, publicized, and prosecuted—or not—as the law demands.

Come what may, the truth will out.

And when it does, one way or another, Trudeau will be out.

If there is any justice in Canada, at the very least, politically.

https://www.straight.com/news/1221596/martyn-brown-canadas-sake-just-go-trudeau

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Taking “Liberal-ludicrous” to “batshit crazy”

 

  • This is the face of a fruit bat, and not that of a crazy Liberal MP contemplating the ouster of two well-regarded former senior cabinet ministers from caucus.

 

  • This is the face of a fruit bat, and not that of a crazy Liberal MP contemplating the ouster of two well-regarded former senior cabinet ministers from caucus.CSIRO

I have seen a number of elected members kicked out of caucus in my time. Usually for acts of wrongdoing.

But never have I witnessed someone turfed from their own party for doing the right thing and for refusing to do something patently wrong.

This might be a first in the Commonwealth: two MPs being ejected from a governing party caucus for refusing to do or support activities that might even turn out to be criminal in their inappropriate application and/or means of execution.

Turfing Canada’s first Indigenous attorney general from her office—she believes, for defending the tenet of prosecutorial independence from the prime minister’s relentless assaults—was nuts enough.

But forcing Puglaas and Philpott (P&P) to leave the Liberal caucus suggests a whole new level of batshit crazy. 

One designed to give LavScam that “extra push over the cliff” by raising its volume to “11”, as it were—just like Nigel Tufnel’s ampin Spinal Tap.

 

https://www.straight.com/news/1222106/martyn-brown-taking-liberal-ludicrous-batshit-crazy

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The prince, the pea, and the mercury—Justin Trudeau's politics of poisoning and politeness

 

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https://www.straight.com/news/1221901/stuart-parker-prince-pea-and-mercury-justin-trudeaus-politics-poisoning-and-politeness

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Jody Wilson-Raybould and Dr Jane Philpott have been removed from Caucus and have lost their rights to run for the Liberals in next election, but don't worry Trudeau is doing politics differently than all his predecessors.

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Tuesday Night Massacre: Trudeau ejects Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott from Liberal caucus

Wilson-Raybould had written a scathing letter to her colleagues, saying their choice on whether to remove her would reveal the values of the party

 

Following Trudeau’s speech, Wilson-Raybould posted on Twitter that she has no regrets, and “spoke the truth as I will continue to do.”

“What I can say is that I hold my head high & that I can look myself in the mirror knowing I did what I was required to do and what needed to be done based on principles & values that must always transcend party,” she said. She said she will take some time and talk to her supporters about what comes next.

In her own statement, Philpott lamented that she had been ejected without having a chance to address caucus, and said it is “profoundly disheartening for me, my staff and my family.”

She said the attacks on her and Wilson-Raybould have been based on “inaccuracies and falsehoods.”

“Rather than acknowledge the obvious — that a range of individuals had inappropriately attempted to pressure the former Attorney General in relation to a prosecutorial decision — and apologize for what occurred, a decision was made to attempt to deny the obvious — to attack Jody Wilson-Raybould’s credibility and attempt to blame her,” Philpott’s statement said.

“This isn’t about a lack of loyalty. On the contrary, I recommended that the government acknowledge what happened in order to move forward. This was an expression of loyalty, not disloyalty — in the same way that Jody Wilson-Raybould attempted to protect the Prime Minister from the obvious short-term and long-term consequences of attempts to interfere with prosecutorial independence — but to no avail.”

 

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/jody-wilson-raybould-says-shes-been-kicked-out-of-the-liberal-caucus

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Trudeau Liberals revealed their true selves to Canadians long ago

They abandoned electoral reform in the same cynical, insulting way they're defending themselves in the SNC Lavalin scandal. Did we forget?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-trudeau-liberals-revealed-their-true-selves-to-canadians-long-ago?video_autoplay=true

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Agreed!

‘This isn’t about a lack of loyalty’: Jane Philpott addresses expulsion from Liberal caucus

 

Jane Philpott is not going gently out of the Liberal caucus.

The former health minister and treasury board president issued a lengthy statement on Facebook Tuesday, the same day she was expelled from the Liberals alongside former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould amid the SNC-Lavalin affair.

In her statement, Philpott explained that she was expelled from the Liberal caucus without having been given any chance to speak to the national caucus.

“I was accused publicly by people in caucus of not being loyal, of trying to bring down the prime minister, of being politically motivated, and of being motivated by my friendship with Jody Wilson-Raybould,” she wrote.

“These accusations were coupled with public suggestions that I should be forced out of caucus.”

Such attacks were rooted in “inaccuracies and falsehoods,” Philpott said, adding that she did “not initiate the crisis now facing the party or the prime minister. Nor did Jody Wilson-Raybould.”

“Rather than acknowledge the obvious — that a range of individuals had inappropriately attempted to pressure the former attorney general in relation to a prosecutorial decision — and apologize for what occurred, a decision was made to attempt to deny the obvious — to attack Jody Wilson-Raybould’s credibility and attempt to blame her.”

That approach, Philpott said, “now appears to be focused on whether Jody Wilson-Raybould should have audiotaped the clerk instead of the circumstances that prompted Jody Wilson-Raybould to feel compelled to do so.”

Philpott said she could not support the recommended response to the affair — which, she said, was to “deny these allegations.”

Her constitutional obligations — “including cabinet solidarity and collective responsibility” — compelled her to resign from cabinet.

“This isn’t about a lack of loyalty,” Philpott wrote.

“On the contrary, I recommended that the government acknowledge what happened in order to move forward. This was an expression of loyalty, not disloyalty — in the same way that Jody Wilson-Raybould attempted to protect the prime minister from the obvious short-term and long-term consequences of attempts to interfere with prosecutorial independence — but to no avail.”

This remark echoed Wilson-Raybould’s own comments in a letter to the Liberal caucus, in which she said she was trying to “help protect the prime minister and the government from a horrible mess.”

She also said the situation is not about political advantage or strategy, and that it’s “frankly absurd” to suggest she would leave a senior position in government “for personal advancement or merely out of friendship with Jody Wilson-Raybould.”

Philpott said she could not support the recommended response to the affair — which, she said, was to “deny these allegations.”

Her constitutional obligations — “including cabinet solidarity and collective responsibility” — compelled her to resign from cabinet.

“This isn’t about a lack of loyalty,” Philpott wrote.

“On the contrary, I recommended that the government acknowledge what happened in order to move forward. This was an expression of loyalty, not disloyalty — in the same way that Jody Wilson-Raybould attempted to protect the prime minister from the obvious short-term and long-term consequences of attempts to interfere with prosecutorial independence — but to no avail.”

This remark echoed Wilson-Raybould’s own comments in a letter to the Liberal caucus, in which she said she was trying to “help protect the prime minister and the government from a horrible mess.”

She also said the situation is not about political advantage or strategy, and that it’s “frankly absurd” to suggest she would leave a senior position in government “for personal advancement or merely out of friendship with Jody Wilson-Raybould.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/5124321/jane-philpott-liberal-caucus-expulsion-statement/

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Excellent article

Expulsions accomplish nothing but vindictiveness for vindictiveness's sake

I suspect what truly outrages the Liberal MPs is the sight of a person of conscience, unwilling to sacrifice her principles so readily on the altar of partisanship

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-liberals-accomplish-nothing-but-vindictiveness-for-vindictivenesss-sake?video_autoplay=true

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 —  —04.02.2019 04:49 PM

JUSTIN TRUDEAU: FEMINIST, INDIGENOUS CHAMPION AND ETHICAL PARAGON

Not. He’s a liar.

And the government he leads are idiots. They’ve made these two amazing women into national martyrs, they’ve made them even more compelling, and they’ve ensured the story will stay alive for months. They’re the least-capable PMO in the country’s history.

What a fucking farce this is. And they actually seem to think it’ll end their problems.

Their problems are only just beginning.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2019/04/justin-trudeau-feminist-indigenous-champion-and-ethical-paragon/

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Trudeau’s dumb expulsions and strange compulsions

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2019/04/02/Trudeau-Dumb-Expulsions/

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Niigaan Sinclair says for Indigenous People there is no difference between Liberals who promise Indigenous People something and don’t deliver and the Conservatives who don’t promise them anything

Niigaan also said Reconciliation is dead 

Sad times indeed for Canada

Sean in Ottawa

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Niigaan Sinclair says for Indigenous People there is no difference between Liberals who promise Indigenous People something and don’t deliver and the Conservatives who don’t promise them anything

Niigaan also said Reconciliation is dead 

Sad times indeed for Canada

Wow this is almost exactly what I have been saying for years (and even wrote this here at one time):

The Conservatives promise to fuck you and tell the truth about that.

The Liberals promise to help but they lie.

That is how I explain why I vote NDP -- even knowing it has no chance in my riding.

NorthReport

Well as forecast that didn't take long, now that JWR is out of the Caucus.  As she said the PM gets what he wants.

Less than one day.

 

Justice department memo says Ottawa has wiggle room to allow SNC-Lavalin to bid on federal contracts even if convicted

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/04/03/justice-department-memo-says-ottawa-has-wiggle-room-to-allow-snc-lavalin-to-bid-on-federal-contracts-even-if-convicted.html

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So I just ran an unscientific guess across all ridings about where I thought we might be now. I did this without totaling until I was finished to not bias the result. This is what I got.

Starting point 2015 election LPC 184 CPC 99 NDP 44 BQ 10 G 1 IND 0

My biggest predictions are:

The return of the BQ gaining 31 seats from NDP and Liberals combined;

Conservatives taking 52 Liberal seats -- mostly in Ontario, NB, BC and Alberta

The NDP with ten seats lost to the BQ and 4 others made up by gains to be up 5 overall

New result CPC 149 LPC 106 NDP 49 BQ 31 GR 2 IND 1

Changes

LPC Loss to CPC 52; to NDP 17; to IND 1; to BQ 11=81 LPC gains from CPC 1 from NDP 2= 3-81 NET loss of 78

CPC Losses to LPC 1; to NDP 2 = 3 CPC gains from LPC 52; from NDP 1= 53 Net gain of 50

NDP Loss to BQ 10; to LPC 2; to CPC 1; to G 1 =14 NDP gain from LPC 17 from CPC 2 =19 Net gain 5

BQ from NDP 10 From LPC 11 = Net gain 21

Green from NDP 1

Ind from LPC 1

New totals

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This looks like balance of power in the BQ

If NDP, IND, Gr support the Liberals total is = 158

CPC=149

BQ 31 -- able to support either Liberal or Conservative government

The number of changes I have across 98 seats is too many to list here without derailing the thread but I am happy to send it to anyone interested.

 

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For the first time I am beginning to doubt that These Liberals can recover to obtain another majority

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-trudeau-philpott-snc-la...

 

Sean in Ottawa

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For the first time I am beginning to doubt that These Liberals can recover to obtain another majority

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-trudeau-philpott-snc-la...

 

A majority is probably unlikely. A minority is possible but it would not likely be with an NDP balance of power. If the Liberals lose enough to the NDP then they will be in opposition. The balance of power would be the BQ. I cannot see the BQ backing the Liberals down the line. It could be a Liberal minority until the BQ decide to pull them down. The BQ may well back the Conservatives from the start. Either way -- it would not last.

 

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I could not agree more In what is probably the most important issue facing humankind we don’t need Conservative deceitful information which opposes the good work being done by our scientific community

Conservatives lies on Carbon Tax need to be called out

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-conservative-lies-about-...

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Over the years usually prior to election time we have  posters show up either stating they no longer support the Liberals or  professing to support the NDP and yet once they start posting surprise, surprise, almost all of their posts support the Liberals This happens every election and it always done by Liberal supporters. We have some here now doing that and rest assured there will be others before too much longer. Funny dat!

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It was painfully obvious listening to JWR on the CBC this morning that the Liberals are continuing to try and smear her Too bad!

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/politics/article-wilson-raybould-battled-with-bennett-over-indigenous-rights-framework/

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Over the years usually prior to election time we have  posters show up either stating they no longer support the Liberals or  professing to support the NDP and yet once they start posting surprise, surprise, almost all of their posts support the Liberals This happens every election and it always done by Liberal supporters. We have some here now doing that and rest assured there will be others before too much longer. Funny dat!

Opportunities to convert some. These are the people that must be reached for the NDP to win. Demonizing them is not helpful. Better they come here than just read the Star.

It probably is true that a number are open and questionning but cannot kick the Liberal habit. Liberal addiction is a serious thing. Many do not even know why they do it. They may even consider trying alternatives but in a moment of weakness go back to it. Even when people around them tell them it stinks, they often cannot help themselves.

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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Wow this is almost exactly what I have been saying for years (and even wrote this here at one time):

The Conservatives promise to fuck you and tell the truth about that.

The Liberals promise to help but they lie.

They certainly do, but they are still better than the Conservatives. The Conservatives would not have legalized cannabis.  Cannabis laws have been used against marginalized while the wealthy got off. Medical cannabis is coming out of the shadows even more.

They have made a lot of progress on clean water for indigenous peoples. Not all they promised, but they have made progress. 

They got rid of some minor boutique tax credits and improved the child tax credit for those who need it most. 

They increased the visibility of gender parity as a political issue through committing to the gender equal cabinet. 

They overturned some of Harper's more draconian changes to the law. 

They brought in the carbon tax, too little too late but the Conservatives would not have done it. 

I don't support Weir, and I think he should have waited longer, but he did wait a day or two to be contacted not by the party leader but even anyone high up in the party.

Its seems caucus, no matter what the party, does not get to speak to the leader of the party.

All that has really happened here is inappropriate pressure to use a new law designed for SNC on SNC through the use of a questionable Harper era law to allow the AG to overturn the public prosecutor's decision. 

Maybe I'm just cynical for not being shocked but I thought it was common knowledge that governments act in the service of powerful corporations. Of course it was about saving jobs for the votes. Duh. If a political party is doing anything it's for the votes. 

Both Philpott and Raybould are members of the 1% who joined the Liberal party. Am I supposed to believe they didn't realize what the Liberal party is like? I don't recall anyone here falling for the "we'll do politics differently" line. 

Everyone, pundits and activists it seems, thinks the public falls for this shit. Current polls are only getting answers from people who follow politics regularly at least a little and/or responders are just reacting to current headlines off the cuff not making a prediction of how they will vote in October. That will be decided in the last couple of weeks. 

If there is any way that the DPA for SNC can be justified on legal grounds it will be. If it is non-Conservatives and non-NDPers will have a fit but everyone else will wonder what the hoopla is about if it isn't even illegal. They will then turn their attention to the platforms and more pragmatic concerns. Most voters are pragmatic. 

While some voters swing Conservative/NDP the majority either swing Liberal/Conservative or Liberal/NDP.  The NDP likes to think Liberal/NDP voters are hoodwinked into voting Liberal but that once the Liberals are exposed they will turn to the NDP. Some might but they are not the majority. If they were the NDP would have reached power long ago. 

Scheer has gotten a better bounce out of this than Singh but in October it's the platform people will look at and the Liberals are putting Pharmacare on theirs while Scheer will be highlighting his opposition to the carbon tax and dog-whistling social conservatives and anti-immigrant types. 

Longer term Singh is doing the right thing by shifting the party at least slightly more to the left. Hopefully the NDP can pick up more seats and not lose them but they are best off positioning the NDP for 2023 on the issues of income/wealth inequality and climate change. Focusing on SNC will deliver squat. 

Currently I'm predicting Liberal minority but I wouldn't rule out another Liberal majority depending on events between now and then and the platforms. 

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Pondering it is good to see you back to your former fine form. The last couple of years your faux NDP support has been gag inducing given your overall posting history on this site. You remind me of pundits in BC that work for the MSM. Between elections they often say nice things about the NDP but as soon as it gets close to the election their columns start to focus on the parties shortcomings.

By the way the new pot rules are more draconian than the old legal regime and we have just witnessed the heist of a multi billion dollar industry by corporate Canada. An industry built by cooperation among people who believed in an alternate lifestyle. There is a reason that BC bud became a catch phrase. People living around the Salish Sea developed the pot industry in Canada and then exported it successfully to both the ROC and the US. Hell yes, steal our home grown industry and stiff us for the bill for a pipeline to destroy our tourist trade next. That is the Liberal legacy for BC.

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Chris Horkins Partner Casey’s Brock law firm on CBC News world now

Brilliant!

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According to CTV  SNC are reviving their court challenge to pursue a DPA

Who knew!

NorthReport

Justin is about to have another presser. Got to give him points for facing the music I suppose.

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SNC are not doing the Liberals any favour by taking their case to the Court of Appeal today. 

This SNC scandal is all about trust, and the Liberals are treading a very fine line there.

For more than a few Canadians, trust has been broken, so Liberals don't need to keep shooting themselves in the feet on this issue here.

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Some good news for the Liberals here?

Winning the War on Poverty

The Canadians are doing it; we’re not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/opinion/canada-poverty-record.html

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There is no end to this SNC scandal as it is now roiling the Senate.

I suppose Polivieve is still yapping which I have heard is turning voters off the Cons so may he talk forever.

Pondering

kropotkin1951 wrote:
 

Pondering it is good to see you back to your former fine form. The last couple of years your faux NDP support has been gag inducing given your overall posting history on this site. You remind me of pundits in BC that work for the MSM. Between elections they often say nice things about the NDP but as soon as it gets close to the election their columns start to focus on the parties shortcomings.  

I have always been clear that I am not an NDP supporter or a Liberal supporter. I do not and never have supported a political party. 

I haven't been saying anything bad about the NDP. I voted NDP in the byelection and will vote NDP probably for the next 12 years (3 elections). 

Your AHA!!!! is puzzling. 

kropotkin1951 wrote:
 

By the way the new pot rules are more draconian than the old legal regime and we have just witnessed the heist of a multi billion dollar industry by corporate Canada. An industry built by cooperation among people who believed in an alternate lifestyle. There is a reason that BC bud became a catch phrase. People living around the Salish Sea developed the pot industry in Canada and then exported it successfully to both the ROC and the US. Hell yes, steal our home grown industry and stiff us for the bill for a pipeline to destroy our tourist trade next. That is the Liberal legacy for BC.

 

I am against the pipeline and cheering for a BC win against it. I think the court case against it is strong. Trudeau was a fool to buy it. 

I'm disgusted that many of the very people who fought against legalization are the very ones making money hand over fist corporatizing the industry, or trying to. I predict they will fail just as they failed to control the market when it was illegal. It would only be a heist if they succeeded. 

They are are so ignorant they don't even know what they don't know, like the unknown unknowns thing. They are dense. They relied on people who know nothing about the industry or its clients to advise them on set-up. 

Nevertheless the first step has been taken. It is legal. Now that it is legal they won't be able to keep up the reefer madness 2.0. The big story is that Canada legalized and nothing happened.

Unlike Tobacco and Alcohol even the finest craft cannabis doesn't require elaborate production facilities. They aren't even allowing branding like for wine. They think testing for mold is going to convince people to pay more for lower quality. 

It is a huge missed opportunity because had they transformed the black market instead of being all it's organized crime about it they could have really boosted and strengthened local economies creating resiliance against the global marketplace. We could have been a true model for legalization with reasonable quality requirements and limitations on advertising to youth.

I was dreaming of being able to select between strains labeled like wines from specific regions and landraces and individual growers invested in their reputations. 

Instead we have this mess of a sickly legal regime with a healthy grey market that is stifled. I know people are planning tours of farms and cannabis friendly B&Bs anyway but it would be so much easier with a reasonable regulatory framework somewhere between tomatoes and tobacco. 

I'm still glad that cannabis is legal. We ain't seen summer yet. I am still hoping for a blooming of craft varieties. 

JKR

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Some good news for the Liberals here?

Winning the War on Poverty

The Canadians are doing it; we’re not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/opinion/canada-poverty-record.html

Those no-good Liberals have gone and reduced poverty! Could that sneaky Canada Child Benefit get them some votes?!?

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Give this kind of stuff the proper public airing and the NDP should be able to crush the Conservatives in the upcoming election.

Internal memo reveals public service's assessment of Harper's end-of-mandate climate policies

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/04/05/news/internal-memo-reveals-public-services-assessment-harpers-end-mandate-climate

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