Canada leads vote to block UN monitoring Israel Nukes

contrarianna
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Has any Canadian major media reported so far on Canada's glorious role in the Orwellian reworking of the meaning of "unbalanced"?


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Israel ‘Deplores’ IAEA Call to Join NPT
US Rejects Vote, Canada Tries to Block Resolution

by Jason Ditz, September 18, 2009

The Israeli government has officially said that it “deplores” the vote by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) member states to call on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and submit their nuclear facilities to the same oversight as the rest of the world does....

http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/09/18/nuclear-conference-criticizes-israeli...

Reuters:

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The non-binding resolution, which passed for the first time in 18 years of attempts thanks to more developing nation votes, voiced concern about "Israeli nuclear capabilities" and urged the International Atomic Energy Agency to tackle the issue.

Israel is one of only three countries worldwide along with India and Pakistan outside the nuclear NPT and is widely assumed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, though it has never confirmed or denied it.
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Calling the resolution "unbalanced," Canada tried to block a vote on the floor with a "no-action motion." But the procedural maneuver lost by an eight-vote margin. The same motion prevailed in 2007 and 2008s.

A senior diplomat from the non-aligned movement (NAM) of developing nations said times had changed.

"People and countries are bolder now, willing to call a spade a spade. You cannot hide or ignore the truth, the double standards, of Israel's nuclear capability forever," he said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/gc08/idUSTRE58H3QW20090918?pageNumber=2&v...


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bo_bo_obama
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contrarianna wrote:

Has any Canadian major media reported so far on Canada's glorious role in the Orwellian reworking of the meaning of "unbalanced"?

To call any UN agency "balanced" with regard to Israel would be funny if it weren't so serious. Why not first poke at nut cases like Ahmejenejad?


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Respect comes first. Later comes trust. But sometimes, one must reverse course from the starting point.

Trust me on that.

 


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Unionist wrote:

Respect comes first. Later comes trust. But sometimes, one must reverse course from the starting point.

Trust me on that.

 

Are you saying Israel should trust an obviously biased U.N. body? And personally, I try to respect first, then trust. Just an idiosyncracy of mine.


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Why poke at Iran last time I looked, they were not committing gencide on anyone.


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remind wrote:

Why poke at Iran last time I looked, they were not committing gencide on anyone.

They had thugs beat up an ex-President of their yesterday. 'Nuff said.


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Like you were beating up on Jimmy Carter?

Kiss


remind
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Or like the looney toones in the USA threatening Obama's life, and carrying automatic weapons to Town Hall meetings?

Or indeed that is much less than all the USA Presidents who have been murdered.

It must be hard to stand in USian hypocrisy.


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contrarianna wrote:

Has any Canadian major media reported so far on Canada's glorious role in the Orwellian reworking of the meaning of "unbalanced"?

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Calling the resolution "unbalanced," Canada tried to block a vote on the floor with a "no-action motion." But the procedural maneuver lost by an eight-vote margin. The same motion prevailed in 2007 and 2008s.

 

Nice catch contrarianna.  They like to use the word "unbalanced" now an then.

A post by M. Spector in the "Harper will always stand behind Israel" thread

or Canada Refuses to Speak Against Illegal Occupation

This disgraceful vote by Canada, as one of the Western members of the UN Human Rights council, was not reported (AFAIK) in any meanigful way in Canada's mainstream media.  A sad commentary on the state of Canadian journalism.


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bo_bo_obama wrote:

remind wrote:

Why poke at Iran last time I looked, they were not committing gencide on anyone.

They had thugs beat up an ex-President of their yesterday. 'Nuff said.

Nice red herring, bobo.
Other threads are available for making relative comparisons of Israel v. Iran domestic political thuggery.

But on this issue, the Iran-Israel comparison is thus:


                                                                                  
Signatory to the Nuke Non-proliferation
Treaty with UN oversight?                              Iran: Yes          
   Israel: No

Number of Nukes?                                            
Iran: 0         Israel: 200 est.

 Imperial expansion by force with                                                                                                                                
nuclear dominance as guarantor?       
       Iran: No                  Israel: Yes


Canada's rank for vocal support for this "balanced" status quo?--   Number 1.

Not since Apartheid South Africa has Israel had such an enthusiastic nuclear friend.


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contrarianna wrote:
But on this issue, the Iran-Israel comparison is thus:

Signatory to the Nuke Non-proliferation
Treaty with UN oversight?                              Iran: Yes          
   Israel: No

Number of Nukes?                                            
Iran: 0         Israel: 200 est.

 Imperial expansion by force with                                                                                                                                
nuclear dominance as guarantor?       
       Iran: No                  Israel: Yes


Canada's rank for vocal support for this "balanced" status quo?--   Number 1.

Not since Apartheid South Africa has Israel had such an enthusiastic nuclear friend.

Which country is more likely to use a nuke?


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Well, I will go way out here on a limb and suggest that the country most likely to use a nuke is the one that actually has nukes.

duh!


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(Oops, bagkitty premptively launched the obliterating 1st point)

...Also, the country that would guarantee their continued illegal occupation
with a policy of "premptive" nuclear strikes.

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Israeli military and nuclear doctrine increasingly focused on preemptive war against any possible attack with conventional, chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, or even a potential conventional attack on Israel's weapons of mass destruction.[12][164]

Louis René Beres, who contributed to Project Daniel, urges that Israel continue and improve these policies, in concert with the increasingly preemptive nuclear policies of the United States, as revealed in the Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations.[165]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#Use

 


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Great catches bagkitty and contrarianna!

It would seem some believe others, such as Israel and the USA, are not subject to the same rules that they want others to adhere to.

One cannot say manifest destiny beliefs, loud enough, me thinks.

Of course, that said countries only believe in geo-political gains, at any cost, is not considered.


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There is also a wider Nuclear policy context to Canada's expected ultra-subservient pro-Israel, anti-Non Proliferation Treaty stance.

This wording from the official Canadian Government site may not be up much longer as the hypocrisy gap becomes painfully evident:

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The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) is fundamental to Canada's nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation policy.[emphasis mine]

The 1970 NPT is the only international treaty that prohibits the proliferation of nuclear weapons and in which the five nuclear-weapon States (NWS) – the United States, Russia, the United Kingdom, France and China – commit to nuclear disarmament.

The NPT, ratified by 188 countries, is one of the most broadly-supported treaties in history. Only Israel, India and Pakistan have yet to adhere to it. Regrettably, in 2003 the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) became the first country to invoke its right under Article X to withdraw from it....


http://www.international.gc.ca/arms-armes/nuclear-nucleaire/npt-tnp.aspx

Alarms were being sounded about Canada's hypocrisy before its latest pro-Israel profliferation move, most recently noted in this Embassy Magazine story:
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Order of Canada Recipients Demand Worldwide Ban on Nuclear Weapons
By Jeff Davis
Published August 26, 2009
....
Canada's 'Retrograde Steps'


...

Successive governments, regardless of political stripe, remained active players on the disarmament field, and played an important role in creation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty,[Trevor Findley] said.

But since the Harper government came to power, Mr. Findlay said, Canada's approach has changed.

"Canada really hasn't said what its attitude is for quite a while and needs to," he said. "Canada's been taking very much the back seat lately, and you would think a country that had been so much in favour of nuclear arms control for so many years would now leap at the chance to support Mr. Obama in his efforts."

On the contrary, he said, Canada has recently taken steps that served to weaken global nuclear controls. For one, he said, Canada decided to resume nuclear commerce with India even though India illegally manufactured and tested nuclear weapons using Canadian materiel. India also refused to join NPT.

Furthermore, he said, Canada has been seeking an exemption from a Nuclear Suppliers Group ban on uranium enrichment. The G8 nations have decided to place a moratorium on enrichment to discourage Iran and other countries from doing so, but Canada has been seeking an exemption so it could potentially export enriched uranium in the future.

"Canada's been trying to carve out a little exemption for itself," he said. "This is seen as a retrograde step in nuclear disarmament.

"Canada is not really the great supporter of nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament that it used to be," Mr. Findlay concluded. "It's worse than gone quiet, it has actually taken steps that don't seem to be supportive."


http://www.embassymag.ca/page/view/ban_weapons-8-26-2009


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Unfuckingbelievable, and Canadians will be complicit in allowing this to happen.


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remind wrote:

Unfuckingbelievable, and Canadians will be complicit in allowing this to happen.

True, but as Canada's leading pro-Israel motion in the UN, and its wider implications havn't even been reported in the Canadian "media of record", AFAIK, and no opposition figures in parliament see any advantage in bringing it up, AFAIK;
The Canadian public can't be excessively faulted being complicit when the issues are not provided to them by the press or glass tit.
Down the menory hole, doubleplusfast.


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One question: why is the troll still here?


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michelle has demanded he clarify what his moniker means by the end of the day.

Yes, I concur contrarianna, for the most part but how long should we accept the "I did not know" excuse?

We, because we are engaged in our life, find out these things, so is willful blinkering  always going to be acceptable?


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Wow, we've gone from being the lap dog of the US to being the lap dog of Israel.
Why don't we just make Bernie Farber the Minster of Foreign Affairs and be done with it.


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bo_bo_obama wrote:
Are you saying Israel should trust an obviously biased U.N. body? And personally, I try to respect first, then trust. Just an idiosyncracy of mine.

We have to trust the USA and its frontline states in the colder war, whether it's Israel or Colombia or whichever country is oppressing or threatening someone else with a good shellacking.

As for Ottawa, they trust and obey and respect Uncle Sam and his minions of doom as always. If I remember right, Perrin Beatty wanted to build twelve nuclear powered submarines to patrol the Canadian part of the Arctic. Their US masters told them NO, because it would interfere with all the US Navy traffic under the the ice up there at that point, or at least when there was more ice than now. Not sure if Mulroney and Beatty planned to have nuclear weapons on the subs or not. I guess we'll never know. Trust and obey, it's the only way.


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Israeli Exceptionalism A Major Cause of Middle East Turmoil

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/10/04/israeli-exceptionalism/

"President Obama has reaffirmed a 4 decades old secret understanding that allowed Israel to keep a nuclear arsenal without opening it to international inspection.."

El Baradei Says Nuclear Israel Number One Threat to Middle East

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23636.htm

"Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Mohamed El Baradei said Sunday that "Israel is the number one threat to the Middle East" with its nuclear arms, the official IRNA news agency reported...El Baradei brought Israel under the spotlight and said that the Tel Aviv regime has refused to allow inspectors into its nuclear installations for 30 years, the report said.."


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