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NDPP

The Canadian Military's Search For 'Gravitas' in Asia   -   by Yves Engler

https://buff.ly/2lndkTd

"And like the smaller, weaker kid in a street gang our 'leaders' are trying to prove how tough we are. Canadian military planners 'search for gravitas' is akin to gang logic. But, let's hope our behaviour in Asia doesn't lead to where gang warfare has taken many North American cities."

 

NDPP

Canada Pauses Military Assistance To Iraqi Troops

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1184521/middle-east

"Canadian special forces have temporarily suspended military assistance to Iraqi troops due to tensions between the ME country and Kurdish fighters, the defense ministry said..."

In the middle of a developing shitstorm, on the side of the USraeli plan for the dismemberment of Iraq.

NDPP

Man Overboard   -  by David Pugliese

http://nationalpost.com/feature/man-overboard

"Vice Admiral Mark Norman was second-in-command of the Canadian Forces until an RCMP investigation cost him his job. A year later, no charges have been laid, but Norman remains in limbo...Only in Canada could the second-highest-ranking military officer be removed from office without a word of explanation...Military personnel wondered whether it was related to sexual misconduct. Perhaps Norman was a Russian spy, others mused..."

NDPP

Canada Honoured To Chair The NATO Military Intelligence Committee in 2018

https://twitter.com/CanadaNATO/status/956191349270892548

NDPP

Uncle Sam's best doggy...

SSE: Evaluating Canada As A Dependable Ally and Partner for the United States

http://www.cgai.ca/evaluating_canada_as_a_dependable_ally_and_partner_fo...

"This article provides an American analysis of Canada's recently released defence policy: Strong, Secure, Engaged (SSE)...Support to Intelligence: SSE provides a number of welcome new investments in Canada's intelligence capability and capacity that will provide direct benefit to the United States..."

'Circus dogs jump when the trainer cracks his whip, but the really well-trained dog is the one that turns tricks when there is no whip.' - Orwell

NDPP

Canadian Special Forces From Petawawa in Africa to Train Troops

https://t.co/WQH9Tl6Enc

"Flintlock is US Africa Command's largest annual special forces exercise."

Canada does its bit for US imperialism in Africa.

Paladin1

NDPP wrote:

Canadian Special Forces From Petawawa in Africa to Train Troops

https://t.co/WQH9Tl6Enc

"Flintlock is US Africa Command's largest annual special forces exercise."

Canada does its bit for US imperialism in Africa.

 

Just consider it training the local army to learn how to more effectively appropriate white african farmers lands from them.

NDPP

Canada Adds Another $54 M to F-35 Fighter Jet Project, Bringing Cost to $500 M

https://globalnews.ca/news/4243206/canada-f-35-fighter-jet-54-million/

"Canada has quietly paid another $54 million toward the development of the F-35 stealth fighter jet, bringing its total investment in the controversial project to roughly half a billion dollars over the last 20 years..."

And lots more where that came from, no doubt. Watch Canada end up buying this US lemon.

NDPP

Trump Threatens Canada, 'Defence' Community Stays Quiet

https://buff.ly/2lIaYvt

"...The depth of the Canada-US military alliance is such that if US Forces attacked this country, it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil. In fact, given the entanglements, the Canadian Forces would likely enable a US invasion...A critical question to ask: why do we spend over $20 billion a year on a Department of National Defence?"

Paladin1

What to do?!

We don't want to spend money on the military because the military is bad.

But if we disband the military then Trump can just take what he wants of Canada.

NATO is bad and we want to leave NATO, but Trump thinks the US should pull out of NATO and Trump is bad so we should stay to spite him?

What a predicament.

Paladin1

*article posted elsewhere*

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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"...The depth of the Canada-US military alliance is such that if US Forces attacked this country, it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil. In fact, given the entanglements, the Canadian Forces would likely enable a US invasion

Umm...

Wouldn't a U.S. invasion of Canada kind of render null and void our alliance?

Specifically what language in our mutual agreement permits them to invade us, while forbidding us from defending on the grounds that "we had an agreement"??

Does rabble give Yves Engler money for this, or just a free microphone?

Sean in Ottawa

I have a theoretical question to anyone here who understands Canada and global military spending. I realize the mandate of the military is different in each country. If there are things that come under military spending in other countries but not Canada-- can we redifine what is military to increase the budget without spending more money?

This is not to say we should but is this a choice?

Webgear

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I have a theoretical question to anyone here who understands Canada and global military spending. I realize the mandate of the military is different in each country. If there are things that come under military spending in other countries but not Canada-- can we redifine what is military to increase the budget without spending more money?

This is not to say we should but is this a choice?

Sean, 

I once read somewhere (and I can’t find the source) that the Canadian defence budget includes a number of programs such as Veterans’ pensions, housing,  some RCMP and policing activities. This was done to make the budget look bigger than is actually is.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-reports-pubs-departmental-results/2017-...

http://www.forces.gc.ca/assets/FORCES_Internet/docs/en/about-reports-pub...

It is sort of covered in the links above. However it is not clearly laid out unless you understand government speak better than I do.

 

Sean in Ottawa

Webgear wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I have a theoretical question to anyone here who understands Canada and global military spending. I realize the mandate of the military is different in each country. If there are things that come under military spending in other countries but not Canada-- can we redifine what is military to increase the budget without spending more money?

This is not to say we should but is this a choice?

Sean, 

I once read somewhere (and I can’t find the source) that the Canadian defence budget includes a number of programs such as Veterans’ pensions, housing,  some RCMP and policing activities. This was done to make the budget look bigger than is actually is.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-reports-pubs-departmental-results/2017-...

http://www.forces.gc.ca/assets/FORCES_Internet/docs/en/about-reports-pub...

It is sort of covered in the links above. However it is not clearly laid out unless you understand government speak better than I do.

 

Oh. Ok.

You could also take a philosophical take on defence -- fund medical research -- including responses to pandemics. That is defence.

But, defending Canadians against poverty requires education.....

So if military is not the only "defence" spending allowed....

Webgear

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Webgear wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I have a theoretical question to anyone here who understands Canada and global military spending. I realize the mandate of the military is different in each country. If there are things that come under military spending in other countries but not Canada-- can we redifine what is military to increase the budget without spending more money?

This is not to say we should but is this a choice?

Sean, 

I once read somewhere (and I can’t find the source) that the Canadian defence budget includes a number of programs such as Veterans’ pensions, housing,  some RCMP and policing activities. This was done to make the budget look bigger than is actually is.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-reports-pubs-departmental-results/2017-...

http://www.forces.gc.ca/assets/FORCES_Internet/docs/en/about-reports-pub...

It is sort of covered in the links above. However it is not clearly laid out unless you understand government speak better than I do.

 

Oh. Ok.

You could also take a philosophical take on defence -- fund medical research -- including responses to pandemics. That is defence.

But, defending Canadians against poverty requires education.....

So if military is not the only "defence" spending allowed....

Sean, 

The medical research would fall under Defence Research and Development Canada (http://www.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/en/index.page).

There are other groups within the forces that deal medical issues too. 

Defence spending in Canada includes a lot of different aspects, not all of it violent and destructive. 

 

 

NorthReport

It is time to draw a line in the sand when some best buddies with the Russians US president starts dictating what we can or cannot spend on defence. Time for our esteemed PM if he had half a brain to start exploring some other options for Canada’s defence. While we are at it let’s get the big Russian fan to build a wall on his Northern flank.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Trump Threatens Canada: “Defence” Community Remains Silent

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The bombastic rhetoric targeting the Trudeau government is coming from a state that has substantial military capacity close to the Canadian border and has repeatedly invaded nearby nations. The US is currently dropping a bomb every 12 minutes on seven different countries and its troops are fighting/operating in dozens more. And its Commander-in-Chief is highly impulsive.

Despite this aggressive posture from Washington, Canada’s “defence” community hasn’t raised the alarm or sought to capitalize on the tension by asking for more weapons and troops. Contrast this with the academics and think tanks funded by arms companies and the Department of National Defence who regularly hype lesser threats in a bid to increase military spending.

Why the difference in treatment of “threat” assessments?

The “defence” sector ignores US threats because it is not oriented towards protecting Canada from aggression. Rather, Canada’s military, weapons companies and “defence” intellectuals/think tanks are aligned with the US Empire’s quest for global domination.

According to DND, there are “80 treaty-level agreements, more than 250 memoranda of understanding, and 145 bilateral forums on defence” between the two countries’ militaries. In 2015 CBC reported on sustained, high-level, Canadian and US military discussions to create a so-called Canada-U.S. Integrated Forces. Not shared with Canadian political leaders, the plan was to set up integrated air, sea, land and special forces to operate under a unified command when deployed internationally.

The depth of the Canada-US military alliance is such that if US Forces attacked this country it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil. In fact, given the entanglements the Canadian Forces would likely enable a US invasion: As with the 2003 invasion of Iraq — which Ottawa officially opposed — some Canadian troops on exchange in the US might march north; As is the norm when the US invades another country, Canadian officers would likely operate NORAD systems aiding the aggression; As with the wars in Vietnam, Iraq and elsewhere, weaponry produced in Canada would certainly be used by US soldiers marching north.

Paladin1

Should we put together care packages for our brave soldiers deploying to mentor and train the Iraq army?

Sean maybe you can send some hot soup.

 

I can get the mailing address.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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The depth of the Canada-US military alliance is such that if US Forces attacked this country it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil.

I'll ask again what I asked above when this article was first quoted three weeks ago.

Umm...

Wouldn't a U.S. invasion of Canada kind of render null and void our alliance?

NDPP didn't have it in him to answer, but perhaps you could?  Are we REALLY obligated to help them invade us??

progressive17 progressive17's picture

Why not just put health care in the defence budget and say, "Hey Trump, here ya go, 10%!"

voice of the damned

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Quote:
The depth of the Canada-US military alliance is such that if US Forces attacked this country it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil.

I'll ask again what I asked above when this article was first quoted three weeks ago.

Umm...

Wouldn't a U.S. invasion of Canada kind of render null and void our alliance?

NDPP didn't have it in him to answer, but perhaps you could?  Are we REALLY obligated to help them invade us??

I suppose we could be charitable and assume that the writer was thinking something like "The depth of the Canada US military alliance is such that it makes it almost impossible for us to prepare against an American invasion", ie. the Americans wouldn't let us engage in that kind of planning as long as the alliance was in effect.

But to worry that Canada will be hamstrung by the terms of the alliance AFTER the invasion has taken place doesn't make much sense. It's like saying that the Russians were hindered in fighting the Nazi invasion by the terms of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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I suppose we could be charitable and assume that the writer was thinking

I'll just quote this much of what you said, because I can agree with this much.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Are we REALLY obligated to help them invade us??

..oops! i didn't realize it had been posted earlier. 

..i don't think that is what engler is saying magoo. 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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..i don't think that is what engler is saying magoo.

Do you feel he's saying that if push came to shove, our government would betray us all and help the U.S. invade us regardless of what any treaty says?  Or else what do you think Engler is saying with this?  Why, if an ally turns on us, does Engler feel we would have difficulty defending ourselves?

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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..i don't think that is what engler is saying magoo.

Do you feel he's saying that if push came to shove, our government would betray us all and help the U.S. invade us regardless of what any treaty says?  Or else what do you think Engler is saying with this?  Why, if an ally turns on us, does Engler feel we would have difficulty defending ourselves?

..i believe he is not taking about the government but the conflicted position the military would be in because of all the integration that has/is taking place. to me this suggests that militaries being militaries some may take the positions that support the us. engler's logic is quite plausible in my view. 

voice of the damned

^ So he meant that signigicant elements of the military would side with the US? Plausible, but not really what he conveyed by saying "...it would be extremely difficult for the Canadian Forces to defend our soil".  That suggests that the military would be trying to defend Canada, but would lack the ability to do so.

Engler's wording is like saying that it was extremely difficult for Judas to protect Jesus from the high priests.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..i didn't use the word significant. and what presents the difficulty is with the integration that has taken/is taking place. which could not would lead to a lack of ability. i find this very plausible.  

Paladin1

How about soccer balls and school supplies for Iraq children?  There's a bunch of camps set up for displaced persons and while their needs of life are generally taken care of they lack entertainment and educational stuffs.

 

Anyone wanna get something going?

 

Pondering

The US is not going to invade Canada militarily. If they did there is nothing Canada could do to repel them short of a nuclear bomb assuring mutual destruction. 

They don't need to invade us. If they need our water they will drain the Great Lakes if we refuse to sell.

NDPP

TrueLove For America: Canada's Outgoing Defence Attache Tells It Like It Is

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/canadas-outgoing-defence-attache-us...

"...But, as I've said every year at our annual Canada-US 'Partners in Defence' reception, this relationship is a lot like marriage; we too often take each other for granted and don't always give our partnership the attention and recognition it deserves. It's a good thing to remind ourselves of how fortunate we are to enjoy such a fantastic defence partnership.

From a Canadian perspective, our recently released 'Defence Policy, Strong, Secured and Engaged' promises a notable 70% increase in defence spending - $32.7 billion by 2027..."

Surrendered.

NDPP

Canadian Military Explained Plan to Fully Integrate Forces With the US

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-military-integrati...

"Top generals met to discuss possibility of fully integrating Canadian and US militaries [in 2015]. The Canadian military efforts were ultimately shut down and refocused on improving interoperability between the forces."

Thanks Canada, maybe next time...

NDPP

Ottawa's Mercenary World of Pro-Military Lobbying

https://buff.ly/2pQoXBv

"How do you feel about taxpayer-funded organizations using your tax dollars to lobby elected politicians for more of your tax dollars? Welcome to the Canadian military..."

 

On Target: Missions A Massive Waste  -  by Scott Taylor

http://espritdecorps.ca/on-target-4/on-target-missions-a-massive-waste

"The Canadian Armed Forces are currently committed and deployed on five oversees missions none of which have a clear cut or achievable objective..."

NDPP

Meet the Canadian Soldiers Behind A White Supremacist Military Surplus Store

https://ricochet.media/en/2394/meet-the-canadian-soldiers-behind-a-white...

"Investigation connects Canadian Forces members to Fireforce Ventures, a web store glorifying the era of white rule in Rhodesia..."

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