Comedy and the NDP leadership race

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Comedy and the NDP leadership race

I propose a thread to post up anything funny or was-supposed-to-be-funny for the NDP leadership race - parodies, jokes, editorial cartoons, etc.

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theleftyinvestor

First up is This Hour Has 22 Minutes, which got all the candidates together for an American-style debate:

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/22_Minutes/Clips/1287245959/ID=2192010387

Mulcair: "I am not anti-immigrant. My grandfather was born in Mexico, you commie!"
Nash: "Oh come on, Mulcair. Your policies are just crazy as your crazy beard."
Singh: "This is ridiculous. Some of the people on this stage aren't even American!
Ashton: "There are three things this country needs. Freedom, eagles and freedom."
Dewar: "And if elected I will work with Newt Gingrich to build a moon base."
Cullen: "We need to stop worrying about the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and start worrying about the border between Canada and Mexico!"
Saganash: "There are three agencies of government that will be gone when I get there: Commerce, education, um, what the f*** was the other one?"

Caissa

I liked Rick's Rant last night. He suggested that the race is anything but engaging.

http://www.rickmercer.com/Rick-s-Rant/Blog/February-2012/The-Race-to-Dis...

theleftyinvestor

Yup I saw that too. And he's got a point there. I guess everyone is being a little *too* mindful of the possibility that something they say today could be used tomorrow by Conservative attack dogs.

lil.Tommy

Well i think the "battling" is finally starting as you saw in the last debate some candidates came out swinging.

But in the end i think New Democrats tend to all be in the same boat on most issues with maybe differences on how to get there or in the details. But i do not agree one bit that we need to "american style" attack each other... we see how rediculous ther americans are. I think the satire debate was hilarious and shows they all have a great sense of humour but lets not beat up each other. In the end everyone is going to have to work together right. 

Stockholm

I think one of the reasons why the race is so polite and uncontroversial are the circumstances under which it is happening. Usually parties pick leaders after they have suffered a major defeat and the leader has stepped down or after an incumbent was forced out as a result of being unpopular etc... so inevitably the leadership contest that follows is all about "what do we do differently?". In this case, the vacancy was created by a tragic death and when everyone felt good about what the party was doing.

Caissa

That may be a contributing factor, Stockholm. Yet, given how mediocre the party's performance is in the House these days we don't need a boring leadership race as well.

Unionist

In retrospect, Parliament should have been prorogued for the entire duration of the leadership race. That would have solved the problem of absence from the House of some key players, as well as sparing us the Turmel show. And some more legislation dismantling Canada.

Oh sorry, this thread was supposed to be for jokes? My bad.

 

Howard

Part of the problem is there is a bit of a "church of the left" attitude/culture within the NDP and the current NDP leadership race. There is a liturgy and consensus on many issues, some minor variation in interpretation (exegesis) on others, and several books of the (policy) bible that don't get discussed at all.

The problem for the NDP "church of the left" is that non-believers care a lot (more) about the policy books the NDP doesn't discuss: defence, fiscal balance, tax "relief," social conservative mores, etc. Kind of like different Christian churches emphasize different books of the bible.

So the party, and the candidates, need to pick some of those untouched/undiscussed issues and talk about how they would engage them in/as government. Then we should begin to see some more divergence of opinion between the candidates and also some interest points of discussion for moving the party forward and getting it to having the most well-rounded platform.

This is the kind of (political) maturity the NDP needs to have to demonstrate that it is ready and able to take on the reins of government. The other part, on the policy side, is the ability to set priorities and so far only a few candidates have demonstrated this IMO.

Slumberjack

It used to be funny, but it doesn't even have that quality to it anymore, being the stuff of dry heaves when nothing remains.

JeffWells

Quite so, Slumberjack. None of the wit remains of the early years. Now it's Air Farce by another name. For once I found Topp's pained demeanor appropriate.

Slumberjack

Yeah but was it funny?  I mean this is supposed to be a comedy central type thread about the NDP isn't it?

knownothing knownothing's picture

I think it would be funny if one of the candidates made a satirical negative ad. Something like the ones the GOP are running in the states. You could make a funny one about Mulcair, "Oooh he likes his Che Guevara beret, OOOOhh he is a seperatist, OOOOh he is moving the party to the centre." Put all this creepy music in it and have blood running down the screen. It might help later on when the Tories do the real thing.

 

That would be funny.

Michelle

Man, it's like being rickrolled.  The thread title says "Comedy and the NDP leadership race" so I think I'm going to see a collection of comedy clips about the NDP leadership race - and the majority of the posts in it turn out to be a clone of the punditry already happening in the neverending NDP leadership race threads. ;)

Here's the video of that Rick's Rant posted above.

This video is from 22 Minutes - it's pretty funny.  Getting to know the candidates - it's from a while back.

 

 

NDPP

Slumberjack wrote:

Yeah but was it funny?  I mean this is supposed to be a comedy central type thread about the NDP isn't it?

NDPP

 

At the end of the day, you may find, that the joke was on you all the time...

Michelle

This is another one from the Rick Mercer Report that was pretty funny - it was before Niki Ashton entered the race:

The 7 billionth person to enter the NDP Leadership Race

"As these billions of aspiring men - and Peggy Nash - plus thousands of French tutors - cause an unprecedented strain on our natural resources..."

Unionist

Ok, Michelle, you want humour? I found some. Here's Nycole Turmel last week, calling upon Dippers to reproduce like crazy (her code word is "families") as a strategic blow against Harper:

Quote:

Tell me.  Are you ready to roll up your sleeves and take on Stephen Harper?  Are you ready to fight for Canadian families? For their jobs? For their healthcare? To fight the Conservative cuts to the services families rely on?

Well so am I.  And so is this incredible team with me today. My friends, I’ve just spent two tremendous days with this team. Planning how we’re going to fight for families in this session.

I hope they don't fight for families right in the chamber itself. Decorum, please.

[url=http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/01/25/for-the-record-nycole-turmel-are-you-...

Funny, eh Michelle?

 

KenS

Have you heard the joke yet about the junkies promising comic relief?

Michelle
Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Damn you, Michelle!

Unionist

OMG, rickrolled again! Michelle, you'll pay for this!

 

Michelle

I love it.

OnTheLeft OnTheLeft's picture

I don't see any problems with the leadership race, other than the fact that Peter Julian should have run and perhaps a few others.

As for the media and their narrative that this race is "boring", well they don't understand the culture of the party, that we're not into toxic Liberal infighting. And if the candidates were sniping at one another, the media would then create a narrative about a "bitterly divided" NDP with "several factions" fighting each other.

The media and especially their narratives have no credibility. They've always done this to the CCF/NDP.  

janfromthebruce

Stock that was very insightful - really - the MSM is baffled by the pleasantness of it all but your point - well this race didn't start from a negative place but a very sad place and one wish we hoped would con't in the same direction shows they should really think about this race differently. I think every candidate is mindful of Jack's deeds and words - hopeful, optimistic, loving and we will change the world - he was the happy warrier and I liked that - and tough as nails!

 

Stockholm wrote:

I think one of the reasons why the race is so polite and uncontroversial are the circumstances under which it is happening. Usually parties pick leaders after they have suffered a major defeat and the leader has stepped down or after an incumbent was forced out as a result of being unpopular etc... so inevitably the leadership contest that follows is all about "what do we do differently?". In this case, the vacancy was created by a tragic death and when everyone felt good about what the party was doing.

______________________________________________________________________________________ Our kids live together and play together in their communities, let's have them learn together too!

Tommy_Paine

I heard today that Brian Topp's Cree is simply attrocious.

Budda bump bump tish.

 

knownothing knownothing's picture

OnTheLeft wrote:

I don't see any problems with the leadership race, other than the fact that Peter Julian should have run and perhaps a few others.

As for the media and their narrative that this race is "boring", well they don't understand the culture of the party, that we're not into toxic Liberal infighting. And if the candidates were sniping at one another, the media would then create a narrative about a "bitterly divided" NDP with "several factions" fighting each other.

The media and especially their narratives have no credibility. They've always done this to the CCF/NDP.  

Especially Mercer. Why would he shit on the NDP about the leadership race turning off voters? He probably complains about the GOP being too crazy! What a whiner.

theleftyinvestor

Also, from back in September:

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/22_Minutes/Clips/1287245959/ID=2129429675

Mark Critch gets to the bottom of the rumours of the Liberal/NDP merger, with Liberal Party Interim Leader Bob Rae, former NDP Leader Ed Broadbent, MPs Robert Chisholm, Pat Martin and Carolyn Bennett, and NDP leadership candidate Brian Topp.

theleftyinvestor

Today in the Toronto Star:

 

Slumberjack

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Wow, that's just mean, SJ! Laughing

Slumberjack

A pretty mean collage?...thank you for saying so.

Idealistic Prag... Idealistic Pragmatist's picture

Canadian-UK blogger Polygonic has a series of imitations of the different leadership candidates:

http://polygonic.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-ndp-leadership-candidates-...

vaudree

RE: 22 Minutes

Pretty sure that Ashton was saying eleutherios NOT eagles!

vaudree

I sent my mom this video and she thought it was a joke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHtu9KM9ucI

JeffWells

Idealistic Pragmatist wrote:

Canadian-UK blogger Polygonic has a series of imitations of the different leadership candidates:

http://polygonic.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-ndp-leadership-candidates-...

 

Surprised by how good, and even funny, these are. He certainly captures many of their least-endearing characteristics, and with informed affection.

Michelle

Those impressions of the leadership candidates were amazing!

It's not hard to guess which one made me laugh the loudest. :D  But they were all really good.  This guy really has the voices and speech patterns down pretty well!

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Brutally honest but funny :-))

 

Unionist

Could some moderator kindly correct the thread title by substituting "is" for "and"? Thanks.

 

Idealistic Prag... Idealistic Pragmatist's picture

JeffWells wrote:

Idealistic Pragmatist wrote:

Canadian-UK blogger Polygonic has a series of imitations of the different leadership candidates:

http://polygonic.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-ndp-leadership-candidates-...

Surprised by how good, and even funny, these are. He certainly captures many of their least-endearing characteristics, and with informed affection.

Political humour is always better when it's carried out someone who knows alllll the details--that was what was wrong with the 22 Minutes segment, if you ask me (though I respect them for trying).

Jacob Two-Two

They were all pretty funny, but that Mulcair one had me helpless with laughter. I thought I was going to choke.

Michelle

That's the one I was helpless over too.  I had to listen to it about four times before I heard the whole thing because I kept missing what he was saying over my own laughter.

Stockholm

They were all very funny though I think the Topp immitation was the most brutal.

polygonic

Thanks for all your comments on the impersonations...! It was fun to do, even if I had a pang about a couple of them. Felt quite mean towards Brian Topp.... :-( .... but then I reviewed his performance on some CTV interview a short while back, and felt it was painfully accurate....!

 

 

Unionist

polygonic wrote:

Thanks for all your comments on the impersonations...! It was fun to do, even if I had a pang about a couple of them. Felt quite mean towards Brian Topp.... :-( .... but then I reviewed his performance on some CTV interview a short while back, and felt it was painfully accurate....!

I loved your impersonations - all of them! You have a bright future ahead of you! I oughta know - I've got one behind me!

 

janfromthebruce

they were very funny and I posted them to my FB page for entertainment on a Sunday!

Michelle

The Topp one WAS pretty brutal, but it was also really funny.  Glad you joined babble, polygonic!

Idealistic Prag... Idealistic Pragmatist's picture

Welcome to babble, polygonic! Hope you stick around.

Michelle

By the way, polygonic, I'm surprised you didn't add the "I'm a small business owner" thing to the Singh video.  I think he works that into just about everything he says publicly! :)

Skinny Dipper

Great imitations, polygonic!  I wonder if I should skip the debate starting in two minutes.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

The Mulcair one was hilarious. Very good impression!

theleftyinvestor

http://www.thestar.com/special/article/990436--editorial-cartoons#.T2Sx4...

There's eight here... maybe the cartoon was drawn a little while ago? Presumably Ashton and Nash are the women with and without glasses respectively. Paul Dewar is recognizable on the right, and Singh on the left. And I guess the bald guy is Cullen? But none of the others particularly look like Mulcair, Saganash or Topp. The guy between Cullen and Singh looks more like Ron Paul.

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