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final ndp leadership debate - vancouver

flight from kamakura
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noticed this on a twitter feed - the line outside the cbc fully an hour before the doors open:

http://yfrog.com/kixk1hmj

looking good.  man, this is shaping up to be a bruiser of a fight, that's for sure.


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Boom Boom
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Has Singh been disciplined? Will he make an apology at the debate? (I recall this was being discussed on the leadership thread)


flight from kamakura
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i don't really like barbara yaffe, but so far so good.

watching here, ashton a little looser, but still overly scripted, exact same message.

singh sounds pretty good, actually, brings up pharmacare again, stumbles at the end and mentions business experience


flight from kamakura
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mulcair sounds good as usual, but reading too much.  cullen is near-inspiring, though shouldn't have said "audacious" or "a more perfect and beautiful union", that's no good.


flight from kamakura
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paul dewar is bungled the name of the mp from laurier-sainte marie, i don't know what people see in him.


NorthReport
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Dewar not cutting it, not even sure he was in BC - ha!


NorthReport
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Agreed - too bad Mulcair was reading opening remarks too much


flight from kamakura
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nash and topp pretty good.


Bärlüer
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flight from kamakura wrote:

paul dewar is bungled the name of the mp from laurier-sainte marie, i don't know what people see in him.

Yeah, one would have thought that over time, he would have managed to get the pronunciation of "Hélène Laverdière" right—especially since he tries to plug that name every opportunity he gets. But somehow, today's attempt was even more mangled...


Idealistic Prag...
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Topp is talking a lot faster in this debate than he has in the past. It works for him; he gets more in that way.


Boom Boom
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Yeah, bad stumble for Dewar - looked like an idiot.


Howard
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I'm not a fan of Barbara Yaffe. Oh well, better than some of the other BC columnists that never write anything complimentary about the NDP.


NorthReport
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Interesting contrast between Mulcair's and Topp's response - Topp being specific about support for arts community whereas Mucair took the national approach. Although topp answered the question Mulcair's response was prime ministerial.


flight from kamakura
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topp trying to revive his campaign with a great performance, speaking directly to the ndp youth, i like it.  mulcair answers with a much more long term solution, not necessarily the best strategy, but definitely good to hear.

singh is smart, yaffe is obstructive and annoying.


Howard
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Bärlüer wrote:

flight from kamakura wrote:

paul dewar is bungled the name of the mp from laurier-sainte marie, i don't know what people see in him.

Yeah, one would have thought that over time, he would have managed to get the pronunciation of "Hélène Laverdière" right—especially since he tries to plug that name every opportunity he gets. But somehow, today's attempt was even more mangled...

Pathetic. His French has so disappointed me.


Boom Boom
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How does Ashton come from the Jack Layton generation? She's 30 years younger than Layton was....


flight from kamakura
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ashton sounds like a robot, yaffe is way worse than dumont.

cullen is coming in with another wacky bc idea, just the sort of thing that people love.


Tamarind
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Yaffe's interruptions are hectoring and disrupting the flow here... who invited her in??


Boom Boom
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Singh's opening statement - national pharmacare again. At least Ashton didn't repeat 'new politics' again.


Idealistic Prag...
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Wow, why is it so much more annoying when the Vancouver moderator interrupts than it was when the Halifax and Montreal ones did?


Unionist
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The generation that grew up with Jack as leader. It's trite, but tight.


Idealistic Prag...
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Nash is tighter in this debate than she has often been in this race.


NorthReport
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Agreed Yaffe needs to chill a bit -perhaps her Liberal biases are showing.


socialdemocrati...
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I really enjoy Nathan Cullen's responses a lot. They cut through the jargon, which for me is far more exciting than platitudes. Sometimes I think he has the greatest potential to excite a broad base of young people.


flight from kamakura
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nash sounds convincing, but talking about salmon is kind of a bit off.  she's really talking to a very specific element of the ndp, not necessarily the young ndpers.

paul dewar is just a bad salesman.


NorthReport
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Now the fun begins - candidate to ask questions of other candidate


socialdemocrati...
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You've obviously never been to a salmon party. Young people love salmon.

Cool


socialdemocrati...
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Good question from Nash to Tom on what renewal means. I'm interested to see what he says, in front of a national audience.


Boom Boom
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First question goes to Tom - surprise! - from Peggy Nash Laughing


socialdemocrati...
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Tom kind of gave a vague answer. Just said it's about winning more seats in the rest of the country like what we did in Quebec.

Nash gave him a second shot. He talked about allowing local campaigns to have more flexibility to avoid the centralized boilerplate.


NorthReport
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Tom responded very well to Peggy's question.


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