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IF coalition happens, who replaces Harper as leader of Conservatives?

Mojoroad1
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My first answer, would of course be Satan, but he's too pragmatic and does not hold a seat in the HOC (in his true, natural form, not just mere possession). My second scenario would be my personal worst nightmare, Clement..... dunno if his French is strong enough though.....

 

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Tommy_Paine
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Well, the economic statement was Jimmy "I never met a blind man I couldn't trip" Flaherty's,  so if anyone takes a fall for this, I think it would be him, first.   Then again, it depends on how much autonomy Jimmy "can't walk through Walkerton in daylight" Flaherty had in formulating the document.

It's early yet though. 


Michelle
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Could we please try and remember that the thread titles that you choose also show up on the front page of rabble whenever someone replies to it?  So, make them short, concise, and descriptive.  I'm changing this one because 1 out of three IS bad.

Mojoroad1
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Sorry Michelle, my bad.Tongue out

Boom Boom
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Let's hope the Cons stick with Harper - he's our best hope now that the Cons will eventually sink into obscurity (I can't believe Harper has sunk so low so quickly!).


Mojoroad1
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From the Star:

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Around the country, many Conservatives were furious that Harper's inner circle had failed to consult more widely before delivering the fiscal update.

One senior Conservative said Harper had shot himself in the foot for ideological reasons — much as he did when he announced $45 million in arts funding cuts last summer, which cost his party seats in Quebec in the Oct. 14 federal election.

"These guys think it's campus politics, so they get too cute by half and then f--- everything up," he said. 

"We're in the middle of an economic crisis and they pull a stunt like this?"

 

 


robbie_dee
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Jean Charest

Unionist
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Joe Clark

Frustrated Mess
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Who gives a flying ...

Bookish Agrarian
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fig newton?


bush is gone ha...
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fig newton .. yum

Wilf Day
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robbie_dee wrote:
Jean Charest

Alternance is good. But I doubt Charest wants it.

Two Conservative MPs from Quebec got over 50% of the vote: Jean-Pierre Blackburn (52.5%), and my personal favourite, Maxime Bernier (62.4%). 

Then there's Josée Verner (47.1%), or Christian Paradis (46.7%).

No?

Lawrence Cannon, in case you're wondering, won a four-way race with 32.7%.

Perhaps they have a problem in Quebec?

 


Bookish Agrarian
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I recomend Justin Trudeau


pogge
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Conservatives for Prentice.

That didn't long. Note that they're flying the Blogging Tories logo. Either they're really Conservatives or Stephen Taylor hasn't caught up with them yet to make them take it down.


aka Mycroft
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Conveniently, the Conservatives have just had their post-election convention so Harper doesn't have to worry about fighting an automatic leadership review until after the next election. There will be some grumbling from Conservatives saying Harper blew it with a tactical blunder that resulted from his arroagance but I suspect he'll hang on as leader arguing that the Liberals, NDP and Bloc stole government and that when the voters have a chance they'll punish them by returning a Tory majority.

aka Mycroft
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"These guys think it's campus politics, so they get too cute by half and then f--- everything up," he said.

Funny, I was telling a friend of mine yesterday that the problem with the Conservative Party is they have too many ex-student politicians at the top who think this is still campus politics where you can be as viscious and manouevering as you like and it doesn't matter that much because real people aren't actually paying attention. 


Mojoroad1
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Bookish Agrarian wrote:

I recomend Justin Trudeau

 

LOL!! 

Tongue out 


Frustrated Mess
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I don't think so. This tactical blunder may have blown the entire strategy. The Libs will be reinvigorated in government, even shared government, their leadership convention will make them high profile as they crown Iggy, and they will turn that momentum into a cash rasing effort. The Liberals will have been ressurected by the man who came to bury them and cost his party the government. If  this all comes to pass, I think  we'll be seeing the ass  end of Harper shotyly thereafter. And good riddance.

Interested Observer
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I predict Bernard Lord, but prentice is a good possibility also.

Unionist
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Karl-Heinz Schreiber.

ocsi
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Kim Campbell is still available!    Wink

madmax
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Lord Conrad Black


bush is gone ha...
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I'm going for gold Brian Mulroney.  

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aka Mycroft
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There will be some push for a Quebecer or at least a francophone (Bernard Lord would be a possibility if he hadn't blown up his government - but then again in a world where Bob Rae is a serious leadership contender I guess anything is possible).

I don't know if the hard core ex-Reformers would be very happy about "another Quebecer" possibly running the country. 


aka Mycroft
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Mojoroad1 wrote:

My first answer, would of course be Satan, but he's too pragmatic and does not hold a seat in the HOC

I'm sure a by-election could be arranged. Maybe Satan could go to Hull?


Unionist
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Groan.... You've Gotineau a better one than that....

bagkitty
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Let's see... who are likely candidates

Starting with the also-rans from their (CPC) last leadership convention:

Belinda Stronach is no longer a member, so unlikely she will run again (LOL).

Which leave Tony Clement -- and I would assume he would try again.

As to the pre-shotgun marriage leadership candidates, on the Alliance side:

Stockwell Day is still an MP, as is Diane Ablonczy. Grant Hill was last heard of trying to organize anti-SSM candidates for the 2006 elections. That was the field, and I would doubt any of them would try again.

While on the former Progressive Conservative side:

Peter MacKay, likely to run.

Jim Prentice, sure to run.

David Orchard and Scott Brison (see Belinda Stronach and no longer a member)

Craig Chandler (who the hell knows, he can't win a seat as Calgary Alderman and the provincial Tories won't let him run under their banner cause he is so rabid).

Which of course leaves us with those MPs who haven't run for the leadership before, but have some prominence (or is that notoriety) within the CPC ranks:

Maxime Bernier, well, if the tell-all book from Ms. Couillard is correct, he has the ambition.

John Baird, would love the face time with the media.

Jason Kenney, hmmm, more of a sidekick to Harper than a viable candidate (why do I always think of him as "Gary" to Harper's "Ace" in SNL's "Ambiguously Gay Duo animations?)

Jim Flaherty, LOL.

I will say what so many others have said before. The Conservatives have no bench strength. It is Harper, Harper, Harper all the time. The only likely candidates would be Clement, MacKay and Prentice with Bernier tossed into the mix for amusement value. Clement has his Harris history to contend with, MacKay his signed pledge with Orchard to explain leaving Prentice, in my eyes at least, as the front-runner. Of course he would be viewed with suspicion by the Alliance wing of the shot-gun wedding and while Bay Street might embrace him, I don't think the Canadian population as a whole would be enthralled by yet another Albertan leading that party.

Oh yes, please bring it on... I would LOVE to see the Conservatives having to elect a new leader.Laughing


aka Mycroft
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John Tory?

Hey, stop laughing. 


bush is gone ha...
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Might as well elect a giant marionette...

 

hmm that would be a cool street theatre to demonstrate at the next conservative leadership convention.  A huge puppet show reenactment of the procedings inside. One puppet for each delagate!Laughing okay I had my little dream. 

Seriously, as long as it is a old school PC as leader, things may be palatable. 

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David Young
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I wonder if Ralph Klein has been thinking he'd do a better job as Conservative leader than Harper.

Interested Observer
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By the way, there is no way Joe Clark would run.

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