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Cleary said he was aware of the housing crisis, and understands that more needs to be done in the area.

“It's a good news story here, but at the same time there are people falling through the safety nets and we have to make sure those safety nets are stronger.”

The caucus has been in full support of a piece of the private members legislation. Bill C-400, a bill for national housing strategy, is part of a different vision for what the federal role could be, Leslie said.

“We need a federal housing strategy. We're trying to build momentum in the community about that bill, and get them to pressure their members of parliament no matter what party they're from. Pressure them on why it's a good thing for this community and communities across Canada.”

Leslie said the long-term needs to be considered when it comes to housing.

“Sometimes it means putting that investment up front. Sometimes it means cooperative housing or not-for-profit organizations in the community. Ottawa doesn't have the best answers for Labrador West. Those kinds of decisions come from the ground locally. But Ottawa should be there for support those decisions.”

The bill is one of many that Leslie said showcases what a democratic vision of Canada would be and the role of the federal government in key issues such as education, childcare, and poverty.

“The conservative government right now would tell us that these aren't federal issues. Well I disagree. I think there is a federal role, especially federal leadership, here. It doesn't mean they get to make the nitty gritty decisions in communities on the ground; that's for our communities to make those decisions. But to provide the support and the vision, that's absolutely a federal role.”

Cleary said another issue discussed with the caucus was Labrador’s representation.

“We're hearing a lot about Peter Penashue. When people bring it up the first thing people do is shake their heads. There are moments when I sit in the House of Commons and Penashue was hammered day after day about his campaign spending and the fact that he fails to get up off of his feet, and as a Newfoundland and Labrador MP I'm embarrassed for my province. And that's what I'm hearing more and more of here on the ground. People are looking forward to 2015. They want to see better, stronger representation for Labrador. They don't feel like they have it.”

With the number of seats in the House of Commons increasing from 308 to 338 in the next election, Cleary said Atlantic Canada needs the best representation moving forward and the NDP plans on working hard to earn it.

“It's going to be a full court press in Atlantic Canada for the New Democrats. We want to turn this whole region orange next election, and make no mistake we're going after Labrador.”

 

 

http://www.theaurora.ca/News/2012-12-17/article-3141825/NDP-Atlantic-Cau...

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Previous Election Results

Year / NDP / N-cg / Cons / C-cg / Libs / L-cg

2011 / 20% / +2% / 40% / +32% / 39% / -31%

2008 / 18% / +9% / 8% / -32% / 70% / +19%

2006 / 9% / 40% / 51%

jerrym
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It's an interesting analysis, but fails to raise the question of whether a "cheater" (as mentioned in the article) can be re-elected in that riding. Maybe Conservatives in Labrador are embarrassed by Penashue, who knows.

NorthReport

I'd rather be voting for someone who wants to represent me, and the others in my riding, rather than someone who is there primarily to ensure collection of their gold-plated pension.

janfromthebruce

Reaction Flowing after Penashue Resigns

The article suggests there maybe a few liberals interested in the seat as well as the NDP.

Ryan Cleary, the NDP MP for St. John's South-Mount Pearl says the resignation means the people of Labrador will have the opportunity to elect someone who will bring their voice to Ottawa. Specifically he says a New Democrat.

Cleary says Labrador is a target riding for the NDP, a seat they will be agressively seeking. He says the Big Land is a perfect fit with the party in terms of what they represent.

I'm with Cleary on this and glad to hear the the NDP will be agressively seeking NDP representation here. Noted in the article that no Liberal who expressed interest in the seat mentioned "why" they want to run or what it should mean. It was about their interest rather than representing the interests of the riding.

 

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

I heard the Lib on CBC As it Happens last night. The interviewer asked him directly four times if he was running, and he kept saying about how he was thinking about and wanting to do the best thing in the interests of the people of his riding; it was the Lib who ran the last time. Man, did he ever sound like a same-old-same-old, LPC politician. I hope Cleary goes after him and uses this. I thought to myself how insulting it was he wouldn't admit it. This is after he had slagged the Tory for not be honest and forth right. Things never change. What a clown that guy is.

Stockholm

The former Liberal MP for Labrador Todd Russell only needs to be an MP for another 22 days and he qualifies for a lifelong pension. He probably wants to run in the byelection just to get in his 22 days so he can then goof off for the rest of his term.

Already the former NL Liberal leader Yvonne Jones says she wants the federal Liberal nomination in Labrador...its worth noting that right now the NL Libs have 6 seats and the NDP has 5...if the she runs federally, she has to quit provincially and if the NDP (now riding very high at 39% across NL) were to win the byelection in her provincial seat, the NDP would instantly become official opposition in St. John's!!

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Nice an NDP supporter attacking pensions for politicians. I don't know the man well enough to know how crass he is and whether that would be his primary motivation but I find the line of attack to be very Reform minded.  What about his policies are they important or only the fact that he'll get a pension? Damn those politicians and their gold plated pensions hardly seems like a progressive stance or argument against a persons candidacy it just sounds to me like more right wing talking points. 

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Of course he has nothing to offer the Inuit of Labador as an MP. After all what would he know anyways about the riding and its people.

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Russell was born in William's Harbour, Labrador. He is of Inuit descent and was the president of Nunatukavut until his by-election win. He was educated at Memorial University in St. John's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Russell

Stockholm

How many people get a LIFE LONG pension just for doing their job for just six years? I just think that voters in Labrador should know that if Todd Russell serves for just 22 more days, he will instantly hit the jackpot and if he lives to the national average of about 82 for a man he will cost the taxpayers several million dollars. He could even sit in the house for 22 days and then resign and cause yet another byelection and there will be no way to get back the money from him.

The NDP used this issue quite effectively in 2011 in the Quebec riding of Portneuf-Jacques Cartier. The incumbent was that horri ble rightwing crackpot Independent MP Andre Arthur who was first elected in 2006. He had not uttered one single word in parliament and was doing NOTHING as an MP and his NDP opponent made an issue of the fact that he was a total do-nothing MP but was only running again in 2011 so he could qualify for his life long pension. He lost. She won!

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Conservative MP Penashue had to resign - I don't recall Liberal MP Todd Russell ever had to resign. It's no surprise that an NDP supporter wants to throw mud at Todd Russell. He's been critical of the Muskrat Falls development, by the way - one reason progressives should embrace him.

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Stockholm wrote:

How many people get a LIFE LONG pension just for doing their job for just six years? I just think that voters in Labrador should know that if Todd Russell serves for just 22 more days, he will instantly hit the jackpot and if he lives to the national average of about 82 for a man he will cost the taxpayers several million dollars. He could even sit in the house for 22 days and then resign and cause yet another byelection and there will be no way to get back the money from him.

I think you sound like  this man in your comments.  I never voted for his party and you are making your party just as attractive with your right wing talking points directed against an MP of Inuit descent.

 

Stockholm

Let's see what the Liberal Party position is on various developments - last i hear Justin is 100% pro-oil sands and pro-Keystone.

I don't know if Russell was a good MP or a lazy one...if he was any good, how did he manage to lose to Penashue in the first place? Its worth noting though that he only needs 22 measly days to get his pension. Maybe that is what he should base his campaign on "I just need 22 more days as an MP and i get a pension for the rest of my life. Please HELP ME!"

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Stockholm's out to lunch. I compared Todd Russell to Penashue, and all of a sudden I've embraced Justin Trudeau.

Stock - get a fucking clue!

Stockholm

I think its a leftwing talking point to show how Senators and MPs and other very highly paid elites are like pigs at the trough with their multiple six digit salaries and pensions - while the same people keep voting to cut pensions, EI and benefits for everyone else.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

I don't have an issue with anyone running for Office. I just wish they would be honest about their intentions and willing to acknowledge the benefits they get. As for pensions for MPs, I don't have an issue with that either. But I wish they'd stop complaining about people using EI or wanting better CPP on retirement. I simply think that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I heard his CBC interview yesterday. I don't care how great he is, he offended the hell out of me simply because I KNEW he was going to run again. he should have just admitted it. I am tired of this kind of nonsense for these people, and that includes NDP MPs. It doesn't matter party, just be transparent for once, for crying out loud!

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Stockholm wrote:

I think its a leftwing talking point to show how Senators and MPs and other very highly paid elites are like pigs at the trough with their multiple six digit salaries and pensions - while the same people keep voting to cut pensions, EI and benefits for everyone else.

Very highly paid elite.  I guess as soon as you join the Liberal party and run as a candidate you become part of that elite or are you complaining about his salary as a Inuit official?

Right wing talking points being presented by NDP supporters is still just right wing shit.  Go ahead do the Fraser Institutes job for them by framing the issues in that manner, I know they love it.

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There's two NDP sycophants on this board who constant refrain is "NDP right, everyone else wrong". Can you guess who they are?

Aristotleded24

kropotkin1951 wrote:
Right wing talking points being presented by NDP supporters is still just right wing shit.  Go ahead do the Fraser Institutes job for them by framing the issues in that manner, I know they love it.

A stopped clock is right twice a day, and if you don't think there is much public anger over what politicians make, then I think you need to get out a bit more. I think the situation is actually the reverse, in that people are legitimately angry with the benefits that politicians receive, and it was the right-wingers who capitalized on this legitimate anger for political benefits. It's that old populist dynamic, the powerful interests versus the ordinary people that is doing it, the same thing that used to work for the NDP, only the NDP defined powerful interests differently.

That said, if the people of Labrador choose to re-elect this MP knowing what Stockholm pointed out, then that is their decision to make.

Stockholm

kropotkin1951 wrote:

 are you complaining about his salary as a Inuit official?

Not at all. If he gets a good salary as an Inuit official I'm happy for him. maybe he should go on collecting that good salary rather than trying to go back to parliament just so he can work for 22 more days and then get his lifelong pension.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Arthur Cramer wrote:

I don't care how great he is, he offended the hell out of me simply because I KNEW he was going to run again. he should have just admitted it.

He currently has a good job as the elected President of the Nunatukavut but you KNOW for sure what he intends to do. Your bias are on full display one more time.  Being an MP is maybe a better job but does he have to resign his present position?  Since you know I guess you must have factored that into your opinion. So what happens if he chooses to run and loses does he get his elected position in Nunatukavut back or is this an all or nothing gamble? His term as President does not end until 2016 and maybe just maybe he might be actually weighing his options. 

However if he does run in the by election I am sure his political opponents will decry him for quitting his elected position after only one year in office. No I guess you are right there is nothing for him to consider he is just lying when he says he is still making a decision.

http://www.nunatukavut.ca/home/presidents_biography.htm

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

Ari, bang on as always! That is the issue when its all said and done. I don't have any problem with it. All I want is a little honesty.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

Yeah, OK, so we are going to fight about this huh? Look, all I said was I heard him yesterday. All he had to do was deny it. He's thinking about it, and I say he's running. If you don't like how I chose to hear what he said with my own tow ears, that is fine, and I really have no issue at all with that. But, the bottom line is that is my opinion based on what I heard, K. I have been around the horn as have many of us, and I am pretty sure I can tell a snow job when I hear one. You think whatever you want. I also get your points about who this man is and his accomplishments You are welcome to view this as you chose. But so am I; no more, no less. That is all I am saying. There is nothing else to what I wrote. You ought to know by now I call it exactly as I see it. I will also apologize when I am wrong and have done it on this board before. This time around, there's nothing for which I feel the need to apologize.

Stockholm

BTW. when Penashue loses the byelection, you can bet your sweet patootie that Harper will appoint him to the Senate so he can earn $150k/year for the rest of his life in exchange for doing absolutely NOTHING!

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

So Stock are all MP's of aboriginal descent just lazy assholes or only ones that are not NDP?

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Stockholm

Once appointed to the Senate EVERYONE becomes a "lazy asshole" because they are guaranteed a lifetime $150k job with absolutely no obligation to do any work, Harper has already appointed a non-Aboriginal jackass named Fabian Manning not once but TWICE to the senate after he was rejected by voters in Avalon...and he has quickly sunk without a trace in the Senate alongside people like Mike Duffy. Based on the Manning precedent, it seems like a done deal that Penashue will get a lifetime Senate appointment if he loses and he will never work another day in his life...just like everyone else in the senate

Debater
Stockholm

Yippee! that means she'll resign her seat in the House of assembly and the NDP can win the byelection and take over as official opposition in Newfoundland!

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"take over" as Official Opposition - that made me laugh. Laughing

Debater

It will be interesting to see whether Todd Russell runs against Yvonne Jones and whether we get a contested nomination for Labrador.

Penashue just quit yesterday, so while Yvonne Jones was first out of the gate today and did interviews on Newfoundland t.v., Russell is taking a few days to talk over with his family & colleagues at NunatuKavut on whether to make a return to federal politics.

MegB

Stockholm wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

 are you complaining about his salary as a Inuit official?

Not at all. If he gets a good salary as an Inuit official I'm happy for him. maybe he should go on collecting that good salary rather than trying to go back to parliament just so he can work for 22 more days and then get his lifelong pension.

And we have how many FN senators now?

janfromthebruce

NorthReport wrote:

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Cleary said he was aware of the housing crisis, and understands that more needs to be done in the area.

“It's a good news story here, but at the same time there are people falling through the safety nets and we have to make sure those safety nets are stronger.”

The caucus has been in full support of a piece of the private members legislation. Bill C-400, a bill for national housing strategy, is part of a different vision for what the federal role could be, Leslie said.

“We need a federal housing strategy. We're trying to build momentum in the community about that bill, and get them to pressure their members of parliament no matter what party they're from. Pressure them on why it's a good thing for this community and communities across Canada.”

Leslie said the long-term needs to be considered when it comes to housing.

“Sometimes it means putting that investment up front. Sometimes it means cooperative housing or not-for-profit organizations in the community. Ottawa doesn't have the best answers for Labrador West. Those kinds of decisions come from the ground locally. But Ottawa should be there for support those decisions.”

The bill is one of many that Leslie said showcases what a democratic vision of Canada would be and the role of the federal government in key issues such as education, childcare, and poverty.

“The conservative government right now would tell us that these aren't federal issues. Well I disagree. I think there is a federal role, especially federal leadership, here. It doesn't mean they get to make the nitty gritty decisions in communities on the ground; that's for our communities to make those decisions. But to provide the support and the vision, that's absolutely a federal role.”

Cleary said another issue discussed with the caucus was Labrador’s representation.

“We're hearing a lot about Peter Penashue. When people bring it up the first thing people do is shake their heads. There are moments when I sit in the House of Commons and Penashue was hammered day after day about his campaign spending and the fact that he fails to get up off of his feet, and as a Newfoundland and Labrador MP I'm embarrassed for my province. And that's what I'm hearing more and more of here on the ground. People are looking forward to 2015. They want to see better, stronger representation for Labrador. They don't feel like they have it.”

With the number of seats in the House of Commons increasing from 308 to 338 in the next election, Cleary said Atlantic Canada needs the best representation moving forward and the NDP plans on working hard to earn it.

“It's going to be a full court press in Atlantic Canada for the New Democrats. We want to turn this whole region orange next election, and make no mistake we're going after Labrador.”

 

 

http://www.theaurora.ca/News/2012-12-17/article-3141825/NDP-Atlantic-Cau...

foreshadowing of things to come!

Aristotleded24

kropotkin1951 wrote:
So Stock are all MP's of aboriginal descent just lazy assholes or only ones that are not NDP?

What I think is interesting is how Harper sets up his female and minority MPs to look like failures (see Lisa Raitt, Rona Ambrose, Helena Geurgis, Rahim Jaffer, Bev Oda) to look like failures, and we have men like Maxime "I-lost-important-government-files" Bernier, and the men get off scott-free.

Debater

Peter Penashue campaign took in 28 ineligible contributions

Mar 15, 2013 5:07 PM ET

Peter Penashue's campaign had to settle up after taking 28 illegal contributions in his 2011 federal election campaign, including more than $18,000 from Provincial Airlines and $5,500 from construction company Pennecon, newly released records show.

Penashue resigned his seat in the House of Commons Thursday, as well as his role as intergovernmental affairs minister, in the wake of controversy over taking corporate donations and going over his election campaign spending limit.

Revised campaign spending records published Friday show:

  • Penashue's campaign accepted 28 ineligible, or illegal, donations.
  • The illegal monetary donations totalled $27,850, with an additional $18,710.54 in in-kind contributions from Provincial Airlines.
  • The donations included money from Provincial Airlines andPennecon Ltd., two companies whose contributions were revealed last fall by CBC News.

Penashue's campaign wrote two big cheques to the federal government through the Receiver General of Canada to cover the ineligible contributions.

  • $26,850 was paid on Nov. 28, 2012 to cover the monetary contributions (one ineligible contribution had been paid off shortly after the 2011 election, for a total of $27,850).
  • The in-kind contribution of $18,710.54 was paid March 4, 2013, a week-and-a-half before Penashue resigned.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/03/15/pol-penashue-28-ineligi...

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Questions that need to be asked: where did Penashue get the $30,000.00 that he paid back? And who is funding his next campaign?

We already know Harper will call a byelection before any investigation of Penashue is completed.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Rebecca West wrote:

Stockholm wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

 are you complaining about his salary as a Inuit official?

Not at all. If he gets a good salary as an Inuit official I'm happy for him. maybe he should go on collecting that good salary rather than trying to go back to parliament just so he can work for 22 more days and then get his lifelong pension.

And we have how many FN senators now?

Actually the Senate has nothing to do with my quote or Stock's answer it was about Todd not Peter.  Please maam will explain why you asked about FN's Senators when I am talking about a job as a Metis leader?  You have me confused and a little bit worried.

 

felixr

Labrador is small population-wise and a lot of Penashue's strongest support came from his aboriginal community. What is the reaction to his resignation there? 

Alberta Observer

I have to agree with Boom Boom.

Yvonne Jones is widely respected for her tremendous courage with the many challenges she has faced, while still doing her best to represent her constituents and province.

I don't know as much about Todd Russell, but I have not heard a lot of bad things about him.

I think to take some cheap shots at them and try to imply sinister motives to their actions is really poor unless those making the comments have something substanial to back those statements up.

Surely we can just judge good people as good people, regardless of what party or background they are from.

Debater

Alberta Observer wrote:

Yvonne Jones is widely respected for her tremendous courage with the many challenges she has faced, while still doing her best to represent her constituents and province.

Yes, Yvonne Jones had breast cancer a couple of years ago.  Because of the medical treatment she needed at the time it was one of the reasons she stepped down as Liberal leader.

She has represented her riding since 1996 and is well-respected, as you said.  She was re-elected with 71% of the vote in the last election.

Not sure yet whether it will be Jones or Todd Russell who is the Liberal nominee for Labrador since Russell is taking the weekend to talk over with his community what he should do.  He is receiving calls from people who want him to run, but he also has responsibilities as President of Nunatukavut.

Jones got out of the gate first with her announcement yesterday, but Russell will make a decision later this week.  If Russell doesn't run, the nominee will likely be Jones.  As MP Gerry Byrne said, she will be a strong candidate.

http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=32060

http://www.thewesternstar.com/News/Local/2013-03-16/article-3201244/It-i...

 

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On an equal playing field, I think either Jones or Russell could take down Pensashue. We all know, though, that the Cons will try to lie, cheat, steal, and otherwise take the election away unfairly - as they did the first time. And, then there's the NDP. A strong NDP challenger could change the whole game.

Alberta Observer

A strong NDP candidate can be a major player in the by-election, but not if they are saddled with the kind of cheap shot comments and innuendoes we have seen on this site, and by the usual Harper Conservative commentators on other media feedback sites.

A lot of people don't care for personal slurs, but they particularly don't work in rural areas where people generally know the people running and what kind of persons the candidates actually are.

Even in urban areas, slurs and innuendos can seriously backfire. Remember the attempt to personally slur Jack Layton at the end of the federal election with the comments about him and massage parlours ?

People knew what kind of person Jack Layton truly was, and the smear helped him, not hurt him, because people knew what a slimy tactic it was.

Same thing here. If you claim Todd Russell is only running to get his extra 22 days in so he can get his M.P. pension or if you make negative personal comments about Yvonne Jones, you are going to help them, not hurt them, because the people, who are going to vote, know them far better than you commentors do. And they won't appreciate any cheap shots or innuendoes from people they consider outsiders.

In short, you run the risk of creating collatoral damage to an otherwise strong and honorable N.D.P. candidate as people start to question what kind of people that she/he has around them.

Stop for a minute and think about it.

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AO:

OK, so then I guess we should all shut up huh? I heard the guy speak on As it Happens with my own two ears. I said he was not being honest when asked directly 4 times if he was going to run and refusing to answer. He is gong to, period. I can't comment on that? Your comment is fair, but I think you ought to be a little more careful how broadly you stoke with your brush? That's MY opinion, no one else's, and certainly not the NDP's. It doesn't matter what I post here anyway, and you know it. This is a basically anonymouse forum that is unknow to the general public. I use my real name. If I can't at least write what I think in this forum, then were else exactly am I supposed to?

As I said, I think your's is a fair remark and my reply is not an attack. All I am saying is how I feel based on what you said, and what my take of what you said is. That's all.

Art

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Saint Jack in his last public statement wrote:

My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.

I am sure that if Todd were to read this thread he would feel the love that Jack spoke of.  Tongue out

The man has won four elections in his own community and won one of the two federal elections he fought, losing by 100 votes to a crooked Conservative machine.  But of course he is to vilified and called a liar and a lazy chiseler because of his original sin,  he is a Liberal.

Hunky_Monkey

Stockholm wrote:

Yippee! that means she'll resign her seat in the House of assembly and the NDP can win the byelection and take over as official opposition in Newfoundland!

 

The NDP got 2.06% in 2011 in that riding.  Don't count the chickens before they hatch.

Alberta Observer

At the risk of being told that I don't know how to do quotes properly, I would like to post a comment by Alice of The Pundit's Guide on the Labrador by-election situation:

" I listened to Todd Russell on CBC Labrador Morning online today, and he just started a new job where they’re counting on him. It might be a difficult choice to walk from that right now.

People, not everything is a freaking conspiracy. Try and imagine yourself in the person’s shoes and use some common sense."

The Pundit's Guide, March 15, 2013

NorthReport

Why would anyone believe anything any Liberal politician has to say? Just askin'

Debater

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Saint Jack in his last public statement wrote:

My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.

I am sure that if Todd were to read this thread he would feel the love that Jack spoke of.  Tongue out

The man has won four elections in his own community and won one of the two federal elections he fought, losing by 100 votes to a crooked Conservative machine.  But of course he is to vilified and called a liar and a lazy chiseler because of his original sin,  he is a Liberal.

Todd Russell actually won 3 federal elections - he was first elected in a by-election in 2005 when the previous Liberal MP died.  He was then re-elected in 2006 & 2008. Smile

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It kils me how we get Jack's (blessed be his memory) words thrown in our face over and over whenever someone goes after a Lib. I have said it before, and I'll say it again, if Jack was such a great man, why didn't all these Libs vote for him? They didn't. So, I simply don't understand why we have to be throttled in our committment to social democracy because of the words of a former leader. Not only that, it has always puzzled me why social advocates of repute run as Libs. They join a party that talks and runs in one direction, and then governs in another, and say nothing. I don't know much more about Mr. Russel other then what I have read here. However, his advcoacy, his postion of respect in the community, and his reputation doesn't put him above challenge. If he runs, he will run as a Lib, then sit if elected and watch his party govern from the right as all these former Lib social advocates have ALWAYS done once elected to governance. No one is above challenge and everyone is accountable. Mr Russel is accountable for his choice to run for a party which has a long established history of Corporatist governance benefitting the elite at the expense of the very people he claims to represent. That smacks of hypocracy and those of us who express our committment to Social Democarcy by our membership in the NDP  and our work to elect NDP candidates have nothing for which to apologize. I don't see what the issue is here frankly, and I don't feel inclined to apolgize for feeling as I do. Frankly, I don't think anyone else should have to either way as well. I would be more impressed with Mr. Russel if he ran as a New Democrat. If he won't, then those of us committed to the NDP have a MORAL obligation to work for his DEFEAT, period.

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