Latest Polling Thread - June 2, 2012

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Ippurigakko
Latest Polling Thread - June 2, 2012

http://www.threehundredeight.blogspot.ca/2012/05/obama-vs-romney-canadia...

US election 2012, canadian style

Obama 65%
Quebec 76%, BC 69%, Atlantic 68%, Ontario 63%, Prairies 51%, Alberta 46%

Romney 9%
Alberta 19%, Prairies 19%, Ontario 11%, Atlantic 7%, BC 7%, Quebec 1%

Neither 27%

 

All things considered, do you think having Barack Obama as President of the United States has been good or bad for Canada?

Very Good/Good 60% - GRN 77%, NDP 71%, BQ 67%, LIB 59%, CON 51%
Bad/Very Bad 13% - CON 25%, BQ 11%, LIB 8%, NDP 6%, GRN 0%
Not sure 27% - LIB 32%, CON 24%, GRN 23%, NDP 23%, BQ 22%

 

Funny, I read other USA forum, they read 308 blogs about it, they called us "canada is idiculously liberal".

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Ippurigakko

Oops, ridiculously liberal* typos

David Young

Is there one source where anyone can go to see all the latest poll results?

It can be a little confusing to see so many different polling results coming out over long periods of time.

 

NorthReport

I agree - perhaps we should try and compile it here.

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A bit dated perhaps but not bad source

http://www.electionalmanac.com/ea/canada-election-polls/

Ippurigakko
Very Far Away

David Young wrote:

Is there one source where anyone can go to see all the latest poll results?

It can be a little confusing to see so many different polling results coming out over long periods of time.

 

 

David,

You can see all the polls since the last election on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Canadian_federal_election

I visit this page regularly to see the trends because one poll isn`t enough to have some assumptions.

NorthReport

Apart from the ones listed at Elections Almanac what are the more recent federal Canada-wide polling results?

Popular Support

Date / Pollster / NDP / Cons / Libs / Bloc / Grn

May 23/12 / AR / 33% / 37% / 18% / 7% / 4%

May 23/12 / FR / 36% / 32% / 20% / 5% / 6%

May 16/12 / AB / 35% / 37% / 17% / ? / ?

Apr 2/12 / HD / 32% / 34% / 19% / ? / ?

Mar 30/12 / FR / 34% / 36% / 19% / ? / ?

 

Seat Projections

Date / Pollster / NDP / Cons / Libs / Bloc/ Grn / Total / Comments 

May 23/12 / FR / 138 / 123 / 42 / 4  / 1 / 308 /  NDP minority government

 

 

David Young

Very Far Away wrote:

David Young wrote:

Is there one source where anyone can go to see all the latest poll results?

It can be a little confusing to see so many different polling results coming out over long periods of time.

David,

You can see all the polls since the last election on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Canadian_federal_election

I visit this page regularly to see the trends because one poll isn`t enough to have some assumptions.

Thanks for the link; it's just what I was looking for!

 

clambake

Interesting point from 308:

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The main sticking point for the Mulcair in this equation is the Liberal Party in Ontario. If the Liberals do well enough to keep the Tories down, it helps the New Democrats win a plurality of seats nationwide. But if they falter and a lot of that support goes to the Conservatives, the NDP is unable to breakthrough in the region they dearly need to: suburban Toronto. The Liberals also have the potential to cause problems for the NDP in Atlantic Canada, where their vote is as inefficient as it is in Ontario. Everywhere else, the Liberals are not a factor.

http://threehundredeight.blogspot.ca/2012/06/130-seats-for-ndp.html

Sean in Ottawa

I think the next election will be polarized and it is the Cons that would need the split rather than the NDP to take the ridings-- or the phenomenon could work both ways. I would not worry about this and the deader the Liberals are the better the chance the NDP can beat the Cons.

I think that there will be fewer vote-split ridings in the next election than there has been in decades with likely the highest number of clear victories we have seen in a long while. The Liberals will hang on to some seats with likely very strong results in those limited places but are less likely to be a factor in many other ridings which may turn in to straight up contests between the Cons and the NDP.

The next election in my view is being fought already and we see how.

The Cons are likely going to hold back until the late stages on direct attacks on the NDP. The reason is they were over used on the Liberals and more of the right wing media can be used to go after the NDP.

The fight is primarily stories from the right wing press -- likely some planted and fed by the Cons -- to smear the NDP as not rational and extremist. This will increase over the next couple years.

the winner of the next election will be decided based on whether the voting public will see through this rain of crap and recognize it for what it is.

If the NDP were smart it would call for the labelling of all political commentators who have party connections (including their own). It could even go so far as to make and promote a list of the names of the Conservative party-connected press and call them out for what they are-- labelling them by putting their names beside their connection to the conservative party. Now by this I do not mean right wing hacks-- I mean the large number of commentators who are actual Conservatives who have been former MPs or employees of the party. There are now a large number in the press and many of the public are not aware of that now that most of the media no longer have the integrity to publish such connections with their opinion pieces. they might want to also publish a list of those with close ties to big business.

The NDP should understand the propaganda war that has already started and address it directly -- to pretend it does not exist will eventually mean to succumb to it.

People have a right to this information.

Otherwise-- perhaps someone here with enough time could start assembling the list and doing the research. An alphabetical list of the main opinion makers who have loyalties to other than the media or public would be incredibly useful to combatt this 'air" war that we are already seeing. Anyone up for that?

In fairness it needs to acknowledge commentators (Capstick, Topp etc. who are associated with us) and those associated with the Liberals. It would be "an armchair guide" to propaganda. Even some journalists might find it useful-- and enlightening. the existence of it would be a news story.

 

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

I hate Capstick. He is ineffectual, and  mousy when he is on CBC. But I will say this, its lucky I'm not there or I'd reach across the table and punch Tim Powers lights out. That guy is a tool!

Sean in Ottawa

I would be interested in this and it could be a part time thing but I think it would require some resources and would include some cost so I would need to be funded. Still, we have talked about trying to start up a left of centre media-- a "Citizen's Guide to Propaganda" would be a lot less costly and would encourage people to think twice about who and what they are hearing and seeing.

Sean in Ottawa

Arthur Cramer wrote:

I hate Capstick. He is ineffectual, and  mousy when he is on CBC. But I will say this, its lucky I'm not there or I'd reach across the table and punch Tim Powers lights out. That guy is a tool!

I have to say I've seen Capstick be very effective... Maybe we were not watching at the same time ;-)

JeffWells

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

The NDP should understand the propaganda war that has already started and address it directly -- to pretend it does not exist will eventually mean to succumb to it.

 

Couldn't agree more. There's some evidence that the party gets this, but also some evidence that it is unwilling to confront the breadth and depth of the problem. But there is only so much that can be done to change the institutional hostility. If the NDP is going to win, it is always going to be in spite of the media.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

Ok, if you say he has been effective, then I am wrong. I still would like to punch out Tim Powers, and I may be in my 50s, all that would do was ensure it was a fairier fight, Wink

NorthReport

 

PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS

Wall Best, Dexter Worst as Canadians Rate Their Premiers

Alison Redford increases her standing in Alberta, while a decline is noticeable for Newfoundland and Labrador’s Kathy Dunderdale.

http://www.angus-reid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2012.06.07_Premiers...

Ippurigakko

Wall is the first, Redford is the 2nd, Sellinger is on the 3rd, and Dexter is the last 9th.

but

best oppostion

Lorraine Michael is the first (57%), Andrian Dix is the 2nd (53%) and Andrea Horwath is the 4th (51%)

all of them NDP leader. I can predict that they would get a form govt in next election after 2015.

seeseagee

A really very good idea, Sean.

I would suggest, though, that your latest working-title iteration, (perhaps just offhand, albeit), a "Citizen's Guide to Propanganda", is too lefty-sounding. I'm assuming that you'd be intending this to be countering the excesses of the rightish media, but still being fairly objective-as-possible and even-handed, so as to be credible and effective. Your analysis seems to generally roll that way.

So, my two-cents anyway, I liked the 'Armchair' bit you initially had. "An Armchair Guide to ...", to something ... 'Bias'? Not quite ... To 'Who's Talking For Who in the Media'? ... 'Talking Points: An Armchair Guide to Who's Talking For Who(m) in the Canadian Media / Punditscape'?  I don't know.

Anyways, just throwing out some constructive criticism. I think it's a great idea, though.

Sean in Ottawa

Yes-- constructive indeed-- I think you are right-- must be neutral for sure if it is to be effective otherwise it would not be read by those we would want to read it.

Thanks

 

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Brachina

If nanos has the NDP in first, even by .1 percent, that means the NDP is very likely at 36 percent because nanos always inflated the Liberals at the expense of the NDP.

Sean in Ottawa

Doctor Manderly wrote:

If the Federal NDP really wants to win power..

 

....they need to a find a way to gain a sympathetic media outlet(s)....  

 

  They also need a team of online posters like Conservatives have...

 

sorry but the NDP does want to win power and must do so without any sort of major media outlet.

All the media is big business now that we have had decades of "rationalization" and buyouts.

This ship sailed when Canada let business that were non-media to buy up the media. At present levels of concentration you are effectively saying the NDP needs big business endorsement to win.

I think winning even against the media is a challenge but must it be done. There are some things we can do to help ourselves-- some of that is being as friendly as we can to many potentially friendly media reporters; educating the public about what is out there-- tackling some of this head on. Admitting we have a problem and getting the public to admit that we have structural problems in the media is another thing.

"The armchair guide to public commentators and who they stand for" could be an important element.

 

clambake

Reading Dexter's bio. Sounds a lot like Rae in the 90s

Quote:
After coming to power, Dexter and his NDP government were shaken by multiple scandals involving expense claims and campaign contributions. On November 10, 2009, it was discovered that members of Dexter's new government had rung up excessive meal and drink bills at the taxpayers' expense

 

*facepalm*

 

 

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

They aren't happy over at the G&M today; the posters are flipping out.

Another poll out today shows Darrell Dexter as the least most popular Altantic Premier. I can't find it now. It was on the Winnipeg  Freep website. He was at 27%. Tell me again why austerity is a good idea?

ETA: Check the Huff Post

Ippurigakko

Nanos - may 31

NDP 33.6% (+1.2)
CON 33.2% (-1.2)
LIB 24.9% (+1.6)
BQ 3.4% (-0.5)
GRN 2.4% (-1.8)

Atlantic
NDP 34.4% (-0.6)
LIB 33.0% (+2.5)
CON 29.1% (-4.4)
GRN 2.7 (+0.5)

Quebec
NDP 41.5% (+4.1)
CON 18.0% (-1.7)
LIB 17.3% (-5.9)
BQ 13.9% (-2.5)
GRN 2.5% (-0.2)

Ontario
CON 35.6% (-1.3)
NDP 31.5% (+2.2)
LIB 30.0% (+2.3)
GRN 1.7% (-3.6)

Prairies
CON 50.2% (+3.5)
NDP 24.7% (-5.7)
LIB 24.1% (+8.5)
GRN 0.7% (-2.3)

BC
NDP 37.0% (+5.1)
CON 34.0% (-5.0)
LIB 23.0% (+3.4)
GRN 6.0% (-1.5)

 

http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-W12-T541E.pdf

Buddy Kat

Perhaps Canadians are starting to get wise regarding the media.....If this is the best the media can do since the last poll, they are losing there grip. They had there panels stacked ..they had every oil sand promotter fron center ..they dismissed the left at nauseum, they pumped up conservative MP's that cheat to win like good year blimps..

No question in my mind they are bought owned , sold, run and serve the Conservatives and are biased to point of obvious..between Rex and Evan on one network....the appointing of a con news propagandist to the senate on another network and then there are the reptillians with lizard eyes on another networkLaughing

There is robo calls then there are Robo-Networks

 

New http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zky2bn0Gtyg New

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-QvXax88J8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eQgUpkJ1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns8LD5Q8ecc

 

felixr

Ippurigakko wrote:

Wall is the first, Redford is the 2nd, Sellinger is on the 3rd, and Dexter is the last 9th.

but

best oppostion

Lorraine Michael is the first (57%), Andrian Dix is the 2nd (53%) and Andrea Horwath is the 4th (51%)

all of them NDP leader. I can predict that they would get a form govt in next election after 2015.

Funniest thing is Lorraine Michaels isn't the official opposition, the Liberals are. Michaels is leading NFLD's 3rd party!

Ippurigakko

yeah i guess it is Angus` idea, same thing media or ppl says liberal is opposition but not Libs, NDP is! lol

I mean Federal.

 

 

NorthReport

It is concerning to see the Liberals polling so high in the Nanos Poll. That definitely needs to be addressed.

bekayne

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Policywonk

bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Policywonk

NorthReport wrote:

It is concerning to see the Liberals polling so high in the Nanos Poll. That definitely needs to be addressed.

That may be just Nanos' poll bias. Everyone else has them at 20% or below I think.

NorthReport

May 2012 Federal Poll Averages
A month filled with rhetoric, relatively large gains in May by the Conservatives in British Columbia and by the New Democrats in Ontario are signs of a shifting landscape. And for the first time since June 2009, the Conservatives lost the lead - and not just by a few decimal points.

 

 

http://www.threehundredeight.blogspot.ca/2012/06/may-2012-federal-poll-a...

 

Also what's this stuff at the bottom of the post that cannot be removed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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so at the provincial level, ndp is ahead or gaining in every province, including 2nd place in ontario, seats again in nb, solid re-election in ns, big win in bc, and in the mid-teens in pei for the first time in the history of polling.  basically, we're slowly becoming the natural governing or natural opposition party everywhere but alberta and the rock (and quebec, obviously).  the rock we can crack but the recent elections there hold real lessons (esp for nb and pei), ontario will probably require a leadership change, and sask is has just down some sort of vortex.  but the trend is amazing.

Aristotleded24

Policywonk wrote:
bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Unfortunately, the leader has an effect on the party fortunes, and if a leader polls behind the party that party is in serious trouble.

No. Dexter needs to be replaced. Now.

Doctor Manderly

If the Federal NDP really wants to win power..

 

....they need to a work on  gaining more a sympathetic media outlet(s)....  

 

 OR at least recruit a huge a team of online posters like Conservatives have.. to counter the spin...it could be volunteers

 

Doctor Manderly

Sean...the way to win despite the media is to move online in focus...

 

...a key part of which is to recruit a team on online/ social media posters...to counter the Blue  spin...

 

The Blue team have their paid posters shouting down any rational discussion online...

 

Orange needs a response team(s) to get your side of the story out ...

 

 

 

 

thorin_bane

Actually I think we have the common person on our side, because the paid posters are so blatently partisan it makes ANY points they say sound beyond the pale, even ones that aren't bad. The challenge team orange has is making sure everyone recognizes they are DOING SOMETHING. Unlike the liberals. Make sure there is this divide and people knwo the libs did little to oppose harper while the NDP have been fairly consistant over all. Right now the cons are howling about union sponsourship of an NDP event. Which is nothing compared to the corporate sponsors they use, but the anti union attitude fed by the media whips up the old hate.

Our biggest ally is the business press. These greedy pigs continue to gorge themselves while the 99%*so to speak) are getting shafted at every turn. The bank bailout in spain is a fine example. People are also empowered with social media. Occupy would likely not have been possible otherwise. It highlights that people CAN have an effect. This encourages more to get involved by not feeling isolated. Many say they didnt accomplish any thing, no they didnt do much but highlight how the 1% are screwing everyone else. So each business story about million dollar bonuses to execs while layoffs to the workers after stock prices tank shows the rest of us that they only care about themselves.

That does far more than we could do. If you want to write in to media, call and organize grouops. Its still a good idea. You need people to feel they aren't alone on the issues. But a propoganda wing spouting off NDP talking points would likely hurt us in the end. Non partisan comments showing how bad the cons, and to a degree the libs are will help us, but don't waste your breath on the libs. Like advertising don't give them any press. If they seem irrelevant it is better than villainizing them.

Its how the managed to pull NDPers away each and every election. I know some think that people vote on principal, a lot vote for popularity.  That is the reason the NDP did so well in quebec. They could be seen as a viable alternative. quebec may have saved this country by making the NDP a real alternative to vote for. Lets just hope they don't go the way of the labour party in the UK. Otherwise I will be running for a real left party.

Brachina

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Policywonk wrote:
bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Unfortunately, the leader has an effect on the party fortunes, and if a leader polls behind the party that party is in serious trouble.

No. Dexter needs to be replaced. Now.

Agreed, but how, is thier a leadership review coming up? Its not easy to dump leaders and a civil war situation comes at a steep price.

For now put pressure on your MLAs to put pressure on Dexter and make it clear that excuses don't cut it.

As for the main stream media work social media is the basic step, but also realize that the media is junkies for certain things, one of which is polls and think tanks, like Broadbent institute whose poll on income tax was key to making Dalton fold to Andrea's wishes on the issue as it also manipulated media coverage.

Also keep the Nation Polarized. The National,Post for all its rightwing focus is especially turned on by polarization and has been useful for getting our message out. While thier columnists attack Mulcair for example over Dutch disease, they have to explain it to readers so even as they attack us they constantly repeat it for us and spread the idea which is basically simple and as Tom Flangan would say sounds plausible enough (its also truth but sadly that just a side benifit).

Don't be afraid of courting right sort of controversial ideas, as demostrated by the Dutch Disease, just no ethical scandals.

The media is against us, but they have thier addictions and habbits that can be exploited.

Debater

Policywonk wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

It is concerning to see the Liberals polling so high in the Nanos Poll. That definitely needs to be addressed.

That may be just Nanos' poll bias. Everyone else has them at 20% or below I think.

Do not assume that the Liberals will remain at that level of support indefinitely.  While the NDP is likely to remain ahead of the Liberals for the immediate future, next year's Liberal Convention and new Leadership may create a gradual re-building of Liberal support.  As Chantal Hébert said in last week's column, things are still in a state of flux, and it remains to be seen whether Mulcair's honeymoon period can last and whether the polling numbers get shifted around somewhat in the years to come.

Incidentally, why is it 'concerning' to see the Liberals polling higher?  Why does the NDP want them to do badly?  The NDP cannot win all the ridings from the Conservatives - there are some ridings where only the Liberals can stop the Conservatives.

Ippurigakko

Ipsos Reid

Majority (56%) of Canadians Agree Liberal Party is a ‘Party of the Past’
Half (52%) of Canadians Have ‘Written Off the Liberals’, Harper Bests all Current Party Leaders in Positive Impressions

 

http://ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5654

Stockholm

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Policywonk wrote:
bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Unfortunately, the leader has an effect on the party fortunes, and if a leader polls behind the party that party is in serious trouble.

No. Dexter needs to be replaced. Now.

Jeez, one poll shows that NDP only two points ahead during midterm doldrums and suddenly the leader needs to be replaced. I guess with your logic the Manitoba NDP should have dumped Selinger the day after one poll showed the PCs in the lead...of course Selinger went on to easily win the election. Also, I guess Layton would have had to be dumped about 20 odd times, every time a poll had the NDP below 18% in the olden days!

felixr

Debater wrote:

Incidentally, why is it 'concerning' to see the Liberals polling higher?  Why does the NDP want them to do badly?  The NDP cannot win all the ridings from the Conservatives - there are some ridings where only the Liberals can stop the Conservatives.

Because the Liberal party is the enemy of progressives everywhere. They are the leaders in allowing private health care into Canadian provinces, waffling on women's reproductive rights, backing out of progressive legislation like pay equity and Kyoto, all while lying about being progressive and how next time Canadians shold really just trust them because they are going to implement child care and other progressive policies "this time."

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

Debater wrote:

Policywonk wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

It is concerning to see the Liberals polling so high in the Nanos Poll. That definitely needs to be addressed.

That may be just Nanos' poll bias. Everyone else has them at 20% or below I think.

Do not assume that the Liberals will remain at that level of support indefinitely.  While the NDP is likely to remain ahead of the Liberals for the immediate future, next year's Liberal Convention and new Leadership may create a gradual re-building of Liberal support.  As Chantal Hébert said in last week's column, things are still in a state of flux, and it remains to be seen whether Mulcair's honeymoon period can last and whether the polling numbers get shifted around somewhat in the years to come.

Incidentally, why is it 'concerning' to see the Liberals polling higher?  Why does the NDP want them to do badly?  The NDP cannot win all the ridings from the Conservatives - there are some ridings where only the Liberals can stop the Conservatives.

You keep telling yourself that Debater. Go ahead, it'll make you feel better.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

felixr wrote:

Debater wrote:

Incidentally, why is it 'concerning' to see the Liberals polling higher?  Why does the NDP want them to do badly?  The NDP cannot win all the ridings from the Conservatives - there are some ridings where only the Liberals can stop the Conservatives.

Because the Liberal party is the enemy of progressives everywhere. They are the leaders in allowing private health care into Canadian provinces, waffling on women's reproductive rights, backing out of progressive legislation like pay equity and Kyoto, all while lying about being progressive and how next time Canadians shold really just trust them because they are going to implement child care and other progressive policies "this time."

That is just bang on Felixr! I have been saying that for years. Hey Debater, you taking notes here? Oh and one other thing, Debater, just because in the past the NDP didn't seem able to win certain seats doesn't mean that is still true now. After all, as the poll shows, YOUR party is yesterdays news. Why don't you guys do the right thing and simply get out of the way so that the NDP can beat the Tories. Unless of course, you secretly like Harper. I'm just sayin'.

Aristotleded24

Stockholm wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Policywonk wrote:
bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Unfortunately, the leader has an effect on the party fortunes, and if a leader polls behind the party that party is in serious trouble.

No. Dexter needs to be replaced. Now.

Jeez, one poll shows that NDP only two points ahead during midterm doldrums and suddenly the leader needs to be replaced. I guess with your logic the Manitoba NDP should have dumped Selinger the day after one poll showed the PCs in the lead...of course Selinger went on to easily win the election.

Selinger did not win that election, McFadyen and the PCs lost it. There's a big difference between the 2.

janfromthebruce

At the end of the day, the Orange Team did better than the Blue Team - and each leader had a choice in how the campaign unfolded at the top - no matter, the Orange team leader did better in leading the campaign and steppin in doggy do-do.

clambake

Unity candidates against Tories urged by local groups

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/12/pol-grassroots-unite-le...

Policywonk

Stockholm wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Policywonk wrote:
bekayne wrote:

Corporate Research Associates (CRA) has provincial polls today for each of the Atlantic provinces

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/atlantic-canada-premiers-support-poll-darrell-dexter_n_1579598.html?ref=canada

Luckily the Party is polling ahead of Dexter, but the NS NDP has not been particularly progressive in government (or environmentally sound either).

Unfortunately, the leader has an effect on the party fortunes, and if a leader polls behind the party that party is in serious trouble.

No. Dexter needs to be replaced. Now.

Jeez, one poll shows that NDP only two points ahead during midterm doldrums and suddenly the leader needs to be replaced. I guess with your logic the Manitoba NDP should have dumped Selinger the day after one poll showed the PCs in the lead...of course Selinger went on to easily win the election. Also, I guess Layton would have had to be dumped about 20 odd times, every time a poll had the NDP below 18% in the olden days!

It's not that the NDP is only a couple of points ahead, it's that Dexter is so unpopular. Less popular than Crusty Clarke is saying something.

Stockholm

Dexter has had his ups and downs. He had a post win honeymoon, the he took a tumble after raising the HSt! Then his popularity surged this past winter, now another drop...we shall see where things are at next year. McGuinty has often been the most hated premier in Canada and yet he is still running Ontario and has won three elections. 

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

I wish Dexter hadn't governed like a Liberal. Of course Doer and Sellinger both act like Liberals too.

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