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Man you should see the spin at 308.com. You'd think based on the comments there that the only way to explain the NDP breakthrough is collective madness on the part of Canadians.
I'm surprised the Liberals are so high but I'm not surprised Nanos has not yet released a poll.
Poll shows NDP surges into statistical tie with Tories with Mulcair: CP Poll
The NDP boost comes almost entirely at the expense of the Liberals, who have slipped back to 19 per cent — the same all-time low they received in last May's election when the self-styled natural governing party was reduced to a third-party rump.
Thank Bob Rae when he was leader of the Ontario NDP, and the msp who have beat the "NDP are not good money managers message" for years and years, for that.
Thank Bob Rae when he was leader of the Ontario NDP, and the msp who have beat the "NDP are not good money managers message" for years and years, for that.
Compounded by the party he's now part of, i.e. Ontario's governing party, and themselves accruing a negative reputation for money-management...
Thank Bob Rae when he was leader of the Ontario NDP, and the msp who have beat the "NDP are not good money managers message" for years and years, for that.
Which means that Ontarians are now expressing their bitterness over a provincial government led by Bob Rae over sixteen years ago by supporting a federal party that is now led by...Bob Rae.
Thank Bob Rae when he was leader of the Ontario NDP, and the msp who have beat the "NDP are not good money managers message" for years and years, for that.
Which means that Ontarians are now expressing their bitterness over a provincial government led by Bob Rae over sixteen years ago by supporting a federal party that is now led by...Bob Rae.
Does this make anybody ELSE's head explode?
Well, he's not the permanent leader...not yet anyway.
There was speculation on P&P about the leadership of the federal Liberals - no one there believes Rae will be the permanent leader, but there's also no obvious choice to replace him, other than Trudeau - who has said repeatedly he's not interested.
The NDP scores 47 per cent of support in Quebec in this poll, which is higher than the party’s 42.9 per cent share of the vote in the province in the 2011 election.
The NDP scores 47 per cent of support in Quebec in this poll, which is higher than the party’s 42.9 per cent share of the vote in the province in the 2011 election.
Quebec
NDP 47% (+20) from 27%. (Last month) BQ 29% (-2) from 31% LIB 10% (-12) from 22% CPC 10% (-4) from 14%
Well, more polls that are exciting and make me feel hopefull. We'll see where this goes I guess. Love those Quebec numbers. Wow! As I said, hope remains.
From the article: "The NDP finds its strongest support in three regions: Quebec, the Atlantic provinces and British Columbia. The Conservatives get their strongest support in Alberta and the other prairie provinces and Ontario."
If this trend continues, Ontario will be the most important battleground in the next federal election. NDP should work hard in Ontario, very hard.
Meanwhile, 58 per cent of Canadians identify themselves as either ideologically in the centre (26 per cent), centre-left (19 per cent) or centre-right (13 per cent), the poll found.
Over all, four in 10 respondents support the choice of Mulcair, while the proportion spikes to 74 per cent of respondents in Quebec saying the NDP made a good choice.
In fact, Mulcair’s relative obscurity in the rest of Canada and Bob Rae’s status as interim leader of the Liberal Party may help explain why the largest proportion of poll respondents, 38 per cent, answered “don’t know” or refused to answer when asked which of the party leaders would make the best prime minister, Dallaire said.
Harper garnered 25 per cent support on that question, compared with 20 per cent for Mulcair and
12 per cent for Rae. Green Party leader Elizabeth May got five per cent."
Glad to note, that it is the NDP (outside of Quebec it appears) itself and not just the leader which is bringing us up and over the top, so to speak. In the past, and particularly the last election, Jack always had excellent leadership numbers and the NDP itself trailed behind, which is why MSM always were saying it was Jack's embodiment of the NDP that got it to 2nd and not necessarily the NDP and its policies. Here it shows the opposite which is good - much better to have it focussed on party and policies and positioning on issues and concerns than the other way around. It also may be extracted that with a focus on the leadership on the last few weeks, Canadians got to know the NDP better, their policies and direction they would take the NDP and by extension Canada, and liked what they saw.
It's a good poll, and my gut says we'll see even better soon. Still, Ontario is very discouraging.
CON: 39%
NDP: 26%
LIB: 25%
It's a testament to how well we're doing everywhere else that we can be deadlocked nationally with numbers like that. The provincial party can't be blamed for dragging it down federally, it's outperforming it.
If the party can't win Ontario, it can't win. That has to be the project for the next three years.
Mulcair's first honeymoon poll
http://threehundredeight.blogspot.ca/2012/04/mulcairs-first-honeymoon-po...
umm...wouldn't it be his second honeymoon?
Innovative ughhh!! that before Convention!
Cant wait to see soon another opinion polls this week, hopefully NDP some more gains likely 37%
Man you should see the spin at 308.com. You'd think based on the comments there that the only way to explain the NDP breakthrough is collective madness on the part of Canadians.
So, I spun back.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/poll-shows-ndp-surges-into-stati...
Poll shows NDP surges into statistical tie with Tories with Mulcair: CP PollThe NDP boost comes almost entirely at the expense of the Liberals, who have slipped back to 19 per cent — the same all-time low they received in last May's election when the self-styled natural governing party was reduced to a third-party rump.
Cons - 34%
NDP - 32%
Libs - 19%
Quebec
NPD - 39%
BQ - 24%
Cons -14%
Libs - 14%
BC
NDP - 44%
Cons - 30%
http://www.decima.com/news/releases/201204/1342-conservatives-and-ndp-ne...
Canada
CON 34%
NDP 32%
LIB 19%
GRN 8%
BQ 6%
Atlantic
NDP 36%
CON 30%
LIB 30%
GRN 3%
Quebec
NDP 39%
BQ 24%
CON 14%
LIB 14%
GRN 8%
Ontario
CON 41%
NDP 26%
LIB 24%
GRN 8%
Prairies
CON 45%
NDP 34%
LIB 13%
GRN 7%
Alberta
CON 54%
NDP 19%
LIB 16%
GRN 8%
BC
NDP 44%
CON 30%
LIB 13%
GRN 11%
Great news, but man, Ontario.
Thank Bob Rae when he was leader of the Ontario NDP, and the msp who have beat the "NDP are not good money managers message" for years and years, for that.
Yeah but recently EKOS, Forum Research and Environics says Ontario 30-31% for NDP and between 34 to 40% for CON, LIB is still steady and slow.
I more trust EKOS, Environics, some Forum Research, and sometimes Abacus Data, Angus Reid.
Not Nanos or Harris.
ETA: I am surprise Provincial Ontario forum research on March 28,
PC 34 (down 1) LIB and NDP are tied 30% (LIB down 8 and NDP up 8)
Look like Andrea going premier in next elections.
Liberal political parties appear to be dying a slow painful death in most parts of the country. Let's not rock the boat.
Difference from last poll
Compounded by the party he's now part of, i.e. Ontario's governing party, and themselves accruing a negative reputation for money-management...
Yay, more issues polling!
Canadians are not universally thrilled with the federal budget
Which means that Ontarians are now expressing their bitterness over a provincial government led by Bob Rae over sixteen years ago by supporting a federal party that is now led by...Bob Rae.
Does this make anybody ELSE's head explode?
Angus Reid is seem dislike Quebec because documents usually says "PQ" is it mean Parti Quebecois? it is need change QC not PQ. =/
Well, he's not the permanent leader...not yet anyway.
There was speculation on P&P about the leadership of the federal Liberals - no one there believes Rae will be the permanent leader, but there's also no obvious choice to replace him, other than Trudeau - who has said repeatedly he's not interested.
Christy Clark? ;-)
Léger Marketing April 2-4
NDP 33%
CPC 32%
LIB 19%
GRN 8%
link
Quebec
NDP 47% (+20) from 27%. (Last month)
BQ 29% (-2) from 31%
LIB 10% (-12) from 22%
CPC 10% (-4) from 14%
Yay!
Well, more polls that are exciting and make me feel hopefull. We'll see where this goes I guess. Love those Quebec numbers. Wow! As I said, hope remains.
From the article: "The NDP finds its strongest support in three regions: Quebec, the Atlantic provinces and British Columbia. The Conservatives get their strongest support in Alberta and the other prairie provinces and Ontario."
If this trend continues, Ontario will be the most important battleground in the next federal election. NDP should work hard in Ontario, very hard.
Last year Quebec highest percent 53% NDP supporters in June it was Jack.
here highest percent [recently]:
Canada 35%
BC 45%
Alberta 31%
Prairies 44%
Ontario 31%
Quebec 53% (2011)
Atlantic 40%
http://www.canada.com/news/dead%2Bheat%2Bwith%2BConservatives/6423028/story.html
Meanwhile, 58 per cent of Canadians identify themselves as either ideologically in the centre (26 per cent), centre-left (19 per cent) or centre-right (13 per cent), the poll found.
So what were the numbers for "left" & "right"?
"
Over all, four in 10 respondents support the choice of Mulcair, while the proportion spikes to 74 per cent of respondents in Quebec saying the NDP made a good choice.
In fact, Mulcair’s relative obscurity in the rest of Canada and Bob Rae’s status as interim leader of the Liberal Party may help explain why the largest proportion of poll respondents, 38 per cent, answered “don’t know” or refused to answer when asked which of the party leaders would make the best prime minister, Dallaire said.
Harper garnered 25 per cent support on that question, compared with 20 per cent for Mulcair and
12 per cent for Rae. Green Party leader Elizabeth May got five per cent."
Glad to note, that it is the NDP (outside of Quebec it appears) itself and not just the leader which is bringing us up and over the top, so to speak. In the past, and particularly the last election, Jack always had excellent leadership numbers and the NDP itself trailed behind, which is why MSM always were saying it was Jack's embodiment of the NDP that got it to 2nd and not necessarily the NDP and its policies. Here it shows the opposite which is good - much better to have it focussed on party and policies and positioning on issues and concerns than the other way around. It also may be extracted that with a focus on the leadership on the last few weeks, Canadians got to know the NDP better, their policies and direction they would take the NDP and by extension Canada, and liked what they saw.
It's a good poll, and my gut says we'll see even better soon. Still, Ontario is very discouraging.
CON: 39%
NDP: 26%
LIB: 25%
It's a testament to how well we're doing everywhere else that we can be deadlocked nationally with numbers like that. The provincial party can't be blamed for dragging it down federally, it's outperforming it.
If the party can't win Ontario, it can't win. That has to be the project for the next three years.
Ontario can be convinced!