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Arthur Cramer
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I hate to ask what for sure is going to seem like the most obtuse question anyone could ask, but is this snark? I thought it was against the law for Canadians to carry a concealed weapon.

Are there any lawyers or law enforcment officers on these pages who could clarify this for me?

I really find this hard to believe as being truthful, maybe because it seems just, too, "American".

Thanks.


Unionist
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Ummm, Arthur, it's a joke site.

 


quizzical
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 edited didn't know joke site!!!!! btw joking like that isn't tff. esp. when 2 men were just arrested for  shooting Maple last year in BC and a football player  just shot his gf 3 times in the head and then himself.


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Jonathan Haidt wrote:
Once people join a political team, they get ensnared in its moral matrix. They see confirmation of their grand narrative everywhere, and it’s difficult—perhaps impossible—to convince them that they are wrong if you argue with them from outside of their matrix.

 


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I figured this paragraph would give away that it was a joke: “Contrary to everybody’s perception of me, I am an enthusiastic firearm user and supporter….in fact, I’m packing heat right now,” stated Trudeau, while flipping open his blazer to reveal a .357 Magnum on his side. ”Rifles, handguns, single-barreled shotguns, double-barreled shotguns, semi-automatics, fully-automatics, the BFG 9000….I’m down with anything.”

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quizzical wrote:

 edited didn't know joke site!!!!! btw joking like that isn't tff. esp. when 2 men were just arrested for  shooting Maple last year in BC and a football player  just shot his gf 3 times in the head and then himself.

The "joke" site is pretty disgusting (scan some of the other items). But don't you find it a little scary that people are ready to believe a report like that? I do.

 


Arthur Cramer
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Unionist:

I was pretty sure it was snark, but I don't know everything all the time, so I ask. Thanks for answering my question as always. By the way, I hope you are well.


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I am very well, Arthur - and who knows, we may get a decent government one of these days - nes gadol hayah sham!

Happy Chanukah.

 


quizzical
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Unionist wrote:
quizzical wrote:
 edited didn't know joke site!!!!! btw joking like that isn't tff. esp. when 2 men were just arrested for  shooting Maple last year in BC and a football player  just shot his gf 3 times in the head and then himself.

The "joke" site is pretty disgusting (scan some of the other items). But don't you find it a little scary that people are ready to believe a report like that? I do.

 na...i find it scarey people think joking like that is funny. maybe its a woman sensitivity thing being it almost Dec 6th and all. along with this weekend's arrests and attack.


Brachina
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If Justin opposed the gun registery why did he for to keep it? Flip Flop much?

Ippurigakko
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JT trying to same as Harper style because he thinks Canadian will vote him from conservative voters. Liberal is too closer Conservative than NDP.

Do you think most Progressive Conservative voters going to vote Liberal for JT?? like Calgary-Centre by-election....

 


nicky
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In Toronto we are learning a lesson from electing an unqualified lightweight (intellectually speaking that is)


Stockholm
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Justin reminds me more and more of Rick Perry that nincompoop from Texas with beautiful hair who was - briefly - the frontrunner for the GOP nomination.

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tuTufVOaF0w

 

Justin is what they call in Alberta "all hat and no cattle"


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Justin is a parody of a pandering politician.

1. "The separatists are too obsessed with language. But I'm for bill 101. The separatists are the worst threat to this country. But I hate Harper enough that I'd want to separate."

2. "I'm the unity candidate. BTW, this country belongs to Quebec, go fuck yourself Alberta. BUT don't criticize the oilsands, because that's divisive."

3. "We care about the environment. BUT we'll never say anything mean about oil, because that would be anti-Western. BUT hey, Harper, why aren't you doing anything about the oilsands? BTW let's ship oil to China."

4. "It's time to do something about equality. BUT we shouldn't attack success. BUT wealth comes with responsibility. BUT let's quietly support corporate tax cuts for decades."

And now:

5. "It's time to get rid of the gun registry. BUT of course I supported the gun registry because it was a good idea. BUT having a gun is a Canadian value!!"

That's literaly FIVE principles where he's tried to have it both ways, in just under 3 months.

They say Liberals don't believe in anything.

Maybe Justin's solution is that the new Liberal party believes in everything!!!


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Stockholm wrote:

Justin reminds me more and more of Rick Perry that nincompoop from Texas with beautiful hair who was - briefly - the frontrunner for the GOP nomination.

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tuTufVOaF0w

 

Justin is what they call in Alberta "all hat and no cattle"

 

All could imagine was what that would be like to forget one's major plank in a broadcast debate to the nation and not even having it written down anywhere - oops was the best "bunchline"


clambake
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Arthur Cramer wrote:

clambake wrote:

Lots of comments on the CBC defending Justin. What is with this irrational loyalty to defend the Liberal brand?

Bottom line, people tend to speak up when they agree with something, and to be quiet when they don't. I don't know how much truck I would put in what you are seeing on the CBC website. Honestly, I don't go there anymore. It is a COMPLETE waste of time. Post here instead!

 

That, I intended! I do have a habit of frequenting the comments page on the CBC and Globe websites, mostly to gauge the responses and then trying to debate/persuade other posters. Though recently i've been frequenting the Sun News Facebook page with that purpose. I can't begin to describe the utter ignorance and childish attitudes out of some of the members there. Especially since many of them appear to be older with pictures of their kids in their profile. It really is astounding, and disturbing to imagine that these types of values are being passed on. Yet I can't seem to kick the habit of visiting the page - I think at this point i'm trying to figure out what makes them think the way they do. Though it is incredibly frustrating yet I can't seem to break the habit!

 


Ippurigakko
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"Trudeau says no to constitutional changes" on cbc.


Arthur Cramer
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Trudeau is speaking at the "Reviving the Islamic Spirit conference" Does anyone know about this group or its sponsor? Is Mulcair speaking there? Should he be? Are we watching the NDP missing yet one more chance to build bridges and make in ways in expanding its support among Canadians?


Michael Moriarity
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Arthur Cramer wrote:

Trudeau is speaking at the "Reviving the Islamic Spirit conference" Does anyone know about this group or its sponsor? Is Mulcair speaking there? Should he be? Are we watching the NDP missing yet one more chance to build bridges and make in ways in expanding its support among Canadians?

From the article on the Global News site, it appears that the speech is by invitation, and not open to all comers. It also mentions that Jack Layton addressed an earlier version of this event while he was leader of the NDP. Most of the article is about the right-wing criticism of Trudeau for appearing at an Islamic event. I just hope Mulcair defends Trudeau's appearance rather than attacking it when the question is asked of him, as it most likely will be.

 


Arthur Cramer
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Well pardon me for being cynical, but isn't this opportune? The idea of people thinking th is guy is some kind of great Canadian unifer drives me nuts. I agree though, I hope Tom makes some kind of positive statement.


Arthur Cramer
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Garneau wants tax cuts"

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His platform calls for capital gains taxes to be eliminated for Canadian entrepreneurs, payroll tax breaks for small and mid-sized businesses that invest in employee training as well as firms that hire students in skilled jobs. It also includes measures to help recent immigrants find work in line with their field of training.

Garneau also chided the business sector for failing to take risks and invest in research and development."

How many studies do we have to produce showing this doesn't work before these guys stop proposing this?


felixr
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Garneau wants Reaganomics!

Cut taxes for the super rich and the budget deficit will magically shrink. "Taking Canada to new heights" means scaling up the beanstalk.


Brachina
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As if Trudeau's attack on the gun registery wasn't disasterous enough to his rep and support, the recent school shootings will only magnify it and make it worse. His timing couldn't have been worse barring making the announcement on the day of the shootings. We need a Gun Registery in this country, abiet we should learn from the mistakes of the liberals and consult with the public first to identfy flaws and build a better verison that is both more effective and that addresses reasonable concerns (aka no wingnut stuff) of hunters and others with a vested interest.

Lou Arab
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Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to flip, flip back, and flip back again on a position.  Rest assured if public opinion changes, young Teen Jesus will change with it.


Arthur Cramer
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Lou Arab wrote:

Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to flip, flip back, and flip back again on a position.  Rest assured if public opinion changes, young Teen Jesus will change with it.

"...young Teen Jesus...", LOL LOU. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Smile


felixr
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Ho hum didi um


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felixr wrote:

Hey! Take it easy on teens. According to polling the NDP holds a crushing lead in the younger demographic, no matter how you define it. It is post-menopausal women that are gaga for Trudeau. I don't think Trudeau has ever led polling in the younger demographic since launching his leadership bid. And now back to serious discussion...

No comment is too offensive when you're tring to discredit someone of the wrong party. Apparently.

felixr
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La dee da


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Delete your comment, and we can move on. I will not chill out. Your comment shows clearly how base electoral politics is closely tied to contempt for human beings. Similar to religion in that respect.

Catchfire
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felixr wrote:

Hey! Take it easy on teens. According to polling the NDP holds a crushing lead in the younger demographic, no matter how you define it. It is post-menopausal women that are gaga for Trudeau. I don't think Trudeau has ever led polling in the younger demographic since launching his leadership bid. And now back to serious discussion...

felixr, this comment is sexist and agist. Don't make generations about women of any imaginary social category you dream up. This sort of statement is not welcome anywhere on babble.


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