Mainstream media, babble and racism against Jagmeet Singh

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Mainstream media, babble and racism against Jagmeet Singh

Just sayin'

If Trudeau had not supported admitting refugees, gone to Pride Parades, encouraged Women and People of Colour, then yes this black/brownface situation would be a lot worse than it already is. White society has a lot of work to do to address their racist issues, and hopefully we learn from this.

One thing I would like to see Trudeau do is apologise to Jagmeet Singh, and why has he not already done so.  Did Trudeau not see the pain the Singh exhibited when he discussed racism last nite?

Anyway, from the time Jagmeet won the NDP leadership there have been racist attacks on him, many of them subtle, but racist nevertheless, and it needs to stop.   

 

 

I'm putting this in the political section because.......

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By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

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Here's is a helpful hint

'If you want to know if something is racist or not, stop asking white people, and start asking people of colour, if it is racist.'

Even before #brownface, the 2019 federal election was always about race

By Fatima Syed in AnalysisPolitics | September 19th 2019

#29 of 31 articles from the Special Report:Election 2019

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh in Ottawa on Oct. 17, 2017. Photo by Alex Tétreault

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If you have been paying close attention to the last eight days of the 2019 federal election campaign (and the months before that), you would note that your candidates for prime minister are as follows:

A sitting prime minister who just admitted to multiple incidents of brownface, despite touting Canada’s multiculturalism and diversity on the world stage.

A Conservative leader whose candidate base includes those who align with racist and homophobic perspectives, and whom he refuses to denounce or remove.

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A female party leader — the only one in the race — who has had to fight off accusations of racism, after it was made clear that people were defecting to her party because they thought the NDP's electoral prospects were weakened by the fact that its leader is not white.

That leader is Sikh — and the first-ever racialized candidate for prime minister in Canada. He is bearing the burden to denounce them all, while facing media reports that are surveying voters who say that they would vote for him only if he took off his turban and “be normal like us.”

And, although a long shot, a fifth party leader who doesn’t believe in race and diversity, and campaigns in favour of "fewer immigrants."

"Like it or not, the 2019 federal election has always been about race, but as quickly as it comes up, it’s been swept away or worse: it’s been left hanging in a void of no accountability" - @fatimabsyed

Like it or not, the 2019 federal election has always been about race, but as quickly as it comes up, it’s been swept away or worse: it’s been left hanging in a void of no accountability.

A week before the election campaign started, reports emerged that a group of NDP candidates in New Brunswick were leaving the party to join the Greens.

The former federal NDP's executive member for Atlantic Canada, Jonathan Richardson, suggested that there was "a bit of racism undertone" against NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh — in other words, Singh’s ethnicity would hurt the party’s chances of winning.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said Richardson's remarks were taken out of context, and that “we have zero tolerance for sexism, Islamophobia, antisemitism, misogyny, homophobia or hate speech of any kind."

Day 1 of the election campaign started with questions about Bill 21 — Quebec’s law that now prohibits public servants like teachers, lawyers and police officers from wearing religious symbols in the workplace. No leader has yet to come forward to say in plain-spoken words that they would make sure the bill is killed from their perch atop the highest office in the land.

The first five days of the campaign saw party leaders dismissing and defending candidates over old social-media posts. A Conservative candidate in Manitoba has been turfed by the party after a left-leaning advocacy group unearthed anti-immigrant and Islamophobic social media posts, according to a report from progressive publication Press Progress, one which said “I’m proud to be white.”

A Green Party candidate said he has no “racist or prejudicial bone” in his body, but he believes focusing on racism is a “distraction” from problems facing “the planet.”

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says that, on condition of an apology and acceptance of responsibility for what they've said in the past, he would stand by Conservative candidates with a history of racist or homophobic comments.

Last month, the Liberals dropped Hassan Guillet as a candidate in the Montreal riding of Saint-Leonard-Saint-Michel after B’nai Brith Canada, a Jewish advocacy group, uncovered a series of old statements he made on social media that B’nai Brith described as anti-Israel and anti-Semitic.

The same month, the National Council of Canadian Muslims called on the Conservatives to drop Ghada Melek, who is running in Mississauga-Streetsville, over past social media posts they said were Islamophobic.

Meanwhile, the People’s Party of Canada also dropped one of its candidates in British Columbia. Brian Misera, who was the candidate for Coquitlam-Port Coquitlam, said on Twitter on Thursday that the party had sent him an email to revoke his status, which came a day after Misera posted a video on Twitter urging party leader Maxime Bernier to speak out more clearly against racism.

“If you can’t be adamantly clear about that, I don’t know how the hell you expect me to campaign for you,” said Misera.

And, the Canadian Nationalist Party, a far-right group that says Canadians "must maintain the demographic status of the current European-descended majority" and is accused of advocating white nationalism, is now an official political party in the federal election, espousing policies that include withdrawing from the UN refugee convention and abandoning legal support for multiculturalism.

Like I said: if you’re paying attention, the 2019 federal election has always been a reckoning over race.

Canadian politics is — and continues to be — white

The fact is: it’s hard to make race a central theme of the Canadian election when more than the majority of the politicians are white.

National Observer survey into the make up of candidates across the five political parties found that, other than the NDP, the remaining parties are not representative of Canada’s visible minority population — black, Indigenous or people of colour — which Statistics Canada finds amounts to at least 25 per cent.

The NDP clears this bar, as around 32 per cent of the NDP’s 310 candidates are visible minorities, 20 of whom are Indigenous and 22 who are Black Canadians.

Here's how the rest of the parties fare, at present, based on the candidates that have been designated on the website of each party:

  • Over 20 per cent of the Liberal Party’s 316 candidates are visible minorities (14 Indigenous, 5 Black).

  • Almost 18 per cent of the Conservative Party’s 337 candidates are visible minorities. The Tories have the lowest number of Indigenous (4) and Black (2).

  • The Green Party is lagging behind in this regard with approximately 12 percent of their 325 candidates being not white (8 Indigenous, 5 Black).

  • Of the 317 candidates nominated by the People’s Party of Canada, some 14 percent appear to be Black, Indigenous or people of colour. (Note that some 30 PPC candidates have no online presence or visibility and couldn’t be included in this calculation).

Looking at these numbers, it’s not difficult to call out the hypocrisy of Canadian politics when it comes to denouncing racism in one breath while peddling it either implicitly — through a lack of active effort in creating a diverse slate of candidates that have probable chances of making it to Parliament Hill — or explicitly by taking concrete, effective action against structural and societal Islamopohobia, anti-Semitism and racism towards Indigenous communities.

Too many Canadians have refused to acknowledge in this election — and every election before this one — is that Canada's political spaces continue to be disproportionately white and yet are also shaping policies that impact the lives of racialized people.

Pundits are quick to say that the floodgates to the race conversation opened Wednesday night when Trudeau admitted to two brownface moments in his past. But the floodgates were already open the minute Trudeau framed himself as a champion of Canadian multiculturalism and diversity but then failed to work against racism with all his power, starting with addressing it in his own past.

The duality exists beyond Justin Trudeau and his government.

Canada welcomed refugees but continued to disproportionately police racialized communities leading to criminalization.

Canada expanded its humanitarian efforts but failed to address the disproportionate rates of black and Indigenous children apprehended from their families and made to navigate the child welfare system.

Canada boasted its pride in its multiculturalism on the global stage, but its immigration policies limits the job prospects and paths to permanent status for racialized migrant workers.

The same can be said for Scheer who was quick to call Trudeau's brownface photos racist but hasn't been held to account or actively explained how his party is not peddling the same dual narrative: that Tories believe in diversity, but not enough to remove candidates with seemingly racist views.

Jagmeet Singh has been left out of this, if only because for the first time, Canada is reckoning with racism with a brown man on the top of the ballot.

If the country is serious about race, Canadians would connect these dots and ask hard questions of our top leaders: we would ask when they acknowledged racism, if they understand racism — and if they don't, why they believe they are best suited to help all the communities in this country.

Because if Canadians want to continue to brand themselves as the global ambassadors of the most multicultural country in the world, it's time they elect leaders that understand what it means to purport and protect that.

 

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/09/19/analysis/even-brownface-2019-federal-election-was-always-about-race

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Nice image for Canada, eh!

New Video Surfaces Showing Trudeau in Blackface, Compounding Scandal

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/world/canada/justin-trudeau-brownface-image.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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'It’s going to be rough': Greg Fergus on whether Trudeau could recover after fallout from racist photos

 

 

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    Greg Fergus, Liberal candidate for Hull-Aylmer and chair of the black caucus in Parliament, speaks to reporters during a press conference in Ottawa on Thursday, Sept. 19, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Justin Tang

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https://election.ctvnews.ca/it-s-going-to-be-rough-greg-fergus-on-whether-trudeau-could-recover-after-fallout-from-racist-photos-1.4600692

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So...what will you do if those newspapers DON'T stop being racist about Singh?  

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Karl sums it up rather well, don't you think!

If Conservatives win because of Trudeau's youthful stupidity it will be a tragedy

 

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Karl Nerenberg

September 19, 2019

ANALYSIS

ELECTIONS

POLITICS IN CANADA

 Adam Scotti/PMO

In case you somehow missed it, U.S.-based Time magazine threw a grenade into the Canadian election campaign on Wednesday evening when it published a 2001 photo of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau in brownface, dressed up as Aladdin for a costume party at the Vancouver private school where he worked.

Trudeau fully apologized, in what sounded like an entirely unscripted and unrehearsed way. In fact, the Liberal leader went further than a simple apology. He freely acknowledged another similar incident, in which he wore blackface and did an imitation of Harry Belafonte singing the calypso song "Day-O." (Global News subsequently came out with a third instance of what they say is blackface behaviour.)

Opposition leaders did not waste any time to share their reactions. 

Green Leader Elizabeth May pointed out that Trudeau would probably have fired any Liberal candidate about whom similar revelations emerged during the campaign. She added she was puzzled that, in 2001, a grown man, son of a former prime minister, would not know painting his face black or brown could be considered racist behaviour.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh had a more heartfelt and personal response. 

He said it would be up to Canadians to judge Trudeau's apology, but, for his part, he was mostly concerned about the young people of colour whose sense of self-worth would be upset by this revelation. 

As is his wont, Singh referred directly to his own experience. He talked about how, as a young person of colour, he had to fight back against bullying and racism. The NDP leader pointed out that others in his situation might not had sufficient strength to successfully make that fight. On learning about Trudeau's past behaviour and seeing the photos, the NDP leader said he was thinking mostly of those who have had to endure racial and ethnic bullying in silence. 

It was a compelling, even moving statement, because it went beyond partisanship to explore the human dimension of a campaign incident. 

Scheer is rubbing his hands with glee

By contrast, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer was entirely partisan. 

In a scripted, prepared statement, Scheer lambasted Trudeau's lack of judgement and unsuitability to lead. He then left the podium without taking questions.

Those were disingenuous words, to say the least. Just a few days earlier, Scheer had said he would forgive Conservative candidates about whom there were embarrassing revelations if they apologized fulsomely and sincerely. 

The bottom line is that it is hard to believe a party leader who has shamelessly pandered to fears about a wildly exaggerated invasion of refugees is now genuinely concerned about racism in Canada. 

Andrew Scheer's dearest wish is that this controversy, on top of the SNC-Lavalin affair, will give him and his party an unearned victory in October. In the 2006 election, the RCMP's mid-campaign revelation that they were investigating a Liberal cabinet minister for improperly sharing advance notice of a tax measure with private citizens boosted an unloved Stephen Harper to a minority victory. Scheer and his Conservatives are hoping history will repeat itself this time.  

If that happens, it will be tragic, in the true original Greek sense of the word. 

A fatal flaw -- Immaturity? An unhealthy penchant for the theatrical? An excessive fondness for mugging for the camera? -- will have laid low a hero who, aside from that flaw, had many commendable and noble characteristics. 

Whatever we make of Justin Trudeau's interest, as a young person, in painting his face black or brown, the Trudeau government of the past four years has been anything but a racist regime. 

This writer has reported on the Liberals' many failures and broken promises. But voters should also remember there is a positive side to the Trudeau government record, especially on issues related to diversity and race. 

The current Liberal government opened the door to Syrian refugees; restored health care for all refugee claimants; ended the Harper government's restrictive measures on family reunification for refugees and immigrants; and even tacitly encouraged refugees from all over the world, who are fearful of their reception in Trump's U.S., to enter Canada through the back door, as it were, thus getting around  the safe third-country agreement Canada has with the U.S.

The Liberal approach to immigration and refugee policy, and Indigenous affairs, has been far from perfect. But it has been a huge improvement over that of its predecessor, the Harper government. 

As Stephen Harper's immigration minister, Jason Kenney -- now premier of Alberta and a close ally of Scheer -- skilfully and in a coded way appealed to centuries-old prejudices against the Roma (or Gypsy) people in his campaign to stop the flow of Central and Eastern European Roma asylum seekers to Canada  

On Indigenous affairs, the main thrust of Harper policy was to focus on the inevitable accounting problems that arose from what more than one auditor general described as an entirely dysfunctional system for funding on-reserve services, such as health and education. It was a blatant case of blaming the victims, and a not-so-subtle appeal to the persistent anti-Indigenous racism that still exists in Canada

Conservatives are still scary, but Trudeau's past behaviour was beyond bizarre

Like the Republicans south of the border, Canadian Conservatives, these days, are all too happy to play footsie with the more extreme elements of the right and alt right. 

The current Conservative Party of Canada is quite different from the Progressive Conservative party of such decent and enlightened leaders as John Diefenbaker, Robert Stanfield and Joe Clark. Andrew Scheer's Conservatives, like Stephen Harper's Conservatives, are a hard-right group, who seek to succeed electorally by sowing division and appealing to the lesser angels of our collective personality.

For them now to gain advantage from Justin Trudeau's admittedly appalling youthful missteps would be an utter travesty.

Having said that, this writer is completely mystified by Trudeau's past behaviour. 

How is it possible he did not know, as a full-grown adult, that painting your face black or brown and wearing exotic costumes was hurtful and offensive? Blackface, specifically, has a long and painful history of being used to dehumanize Black people. By the dawn of the 21st century, one would have thought we had come a long way from the blackface era, from a time when ethnic and racial humour and stereotyping was acceptable.

Many decades ago, long before 2001, in the late 1970s, I was a story producer, responsible for content related to Quebec, on the CBC radio show Morningside, when the late Don Harron was host. One day, Don recorded a bit with a local Toronto comedian who did his routine in a parody of a Québécois accent. The comedian called himself "Frenchie" something or other. 

It was all supposed to be funny and harmless, but I was not at all comfortable with the bit. I was the most junior person on the show's team. In the interests of my career, I would have been well-advised to watch my backside and keep my counsel. 

I couldn't keep my mouth shut, however. I told the host and executive producer that, to me, the routine -- based as it was on mocking an accent -- was offensive. In the end, they deferred to my judgement and decided not to run the item.

Even then, long before 2001, most of us knew that imitating other cultures or ethnicities was not acceptable. Why didn't the young Justin Trudeau not know as much many years later?

Karl Nerenberg has been a journalist and filmmaker for more than 25 years. He is rabble's politics reporter.

Image: Adam Scotti/PMO​

 

http://rabble.ca/news/2019/09/if-conservatives-win-because-trudeaus-youthful-stupidity-it-will-be-tragedy

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Which babblers are making racist comments?  That is a serious charge.  Or is this just another one of your strawmen.

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In fact, the Liberal leader went further than a simple apology. He freely acknowledged another similar incident, in which he wore blackface and did an imitation of Harry Belafonte singing the calypso song "Day-O."

In the media scrum that I saw, he "freely" admitted to the musical performance only after a reporter asked him if there were any other incidents. Such an admission was very much in his self-interest, since if he had claimed it only happened once, and then other images emerged, he would then have MAJOR egg on his face.  

 

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Karl sums it up rather well, don't you think!

If Conservatives win because of Trudeau's youthful stupidity it will be a tragedy

 

Karl Nerenburg= white liberal hack borderline racist!

Worst garbage I've read from Karl! In fact, this year I will not donate any money to rabble because of this article in protest!

Karl should apologize. Then be fired! I'm not reading this fucking assholes garbage again. Complete waste of time.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

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By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

Fuck off privileged white person.

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Breaking: Walking Eagle News

https://twitter.com/TheEagleist/status/1174706016782618625

"Country's white people divided on whether brownface okay or bad."

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

What a shitfest. Wished so many were as concerned and up on their hind quarters when we saw Canada officially usher in an extreme right wing anit-immigration and racist party as we now have with Max Bernier's Peoples Party.

Overt and covert racism is alive and kicking in Canada. White priviledge is rampant as is white male priviledge. Diversity and Inclusion policies in the private sector are a fig leaf solution to the eniquities that exist. Systemic racism is well entrenched and is only exascerbated by classism. The combination continues to keep many people down and without opportunities to thrive in our society.

So yes, what Justin Trudeau did 2 decades ago is extremely offensive and demonstrates that he is an entitled, somewhat dim witted tool. But in the scheme of everything we are facing right now, I think this contrite tool is a better outcome for our future than Scheer who I am sure is just a puppet controlled by more crafty and capable Conservative interests.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Voting for the lesser of evils insures that evil wins. The answer is to vote for another party not either of those two. There is no other answer in any riding in the country for any progressive person.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

 

By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

Fuck off privileged white person.

I associate myself with the remarks of the Very Honourable Person From The People's Republic of Vancouver Island.

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Man at party where Trudeau wore brownface says costume ‘stood out’ compared to others

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/5925961/trudeau-brownface-vancouver-school/

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It's a little much to say oh well it happened 20 years ago as if that justifies bad behaviour. After all slavery happened a while back as well, and who today is trying to justify that.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

NorthReport wrote:

 

By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

WWWTT, not "WWT".  If you're going to diss the guy, at least get his abbreviation right, fer crissakes.

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Too bad we have to go outside Canada to get appropriate media coverage about Canadian events, eh!

World

'The progressive reputation of Justin Trudeau is in ruins': A sampling of international reaction

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trudeau-brownface-reaction-international-1.5289870

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And the CBC needs to stop trying to muddy the waters about Trudeau being removed from the Lilly Singh show.

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laine lowe wrote:

What a shitfest. Wished so many were as concerned and up on their hind quarters when we saw Canada officially usher in an extreme right wing anit-immigration and racist party as we now have with Max Bernier's Peoples Party.

Overt and covert racism is alive and kicking in Canada. White priviledge is rampant as is white male priviledge. Diversity and Inclusion policies in the private sector are a fig leaf solution to the eniquities that exist. Systemic racism is well entrenched and is only exascerbated by classism. The combination continues to keep many people down and without opportunities to thrive in our society.

So yes, what Justin Trudeau did 2 decades ago is extremely offensive and demonstrates that he is an entitled, somewhat dim witted tool. But in the scheme of everything we are facing right now, I think this contrite tool is a better outcome for our future than Scheer who I am sure is just a puppet controlled by more crafty and capable Conservative interests.

laine lowe=white  liberal hack boderline racist.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

WWWTT wrote:

laine lowe wrote:

What a shitfest. Wished so many were as concerned and up on their hind quarters when we saw Canada officially usher in an extreme right wing anit-immigration and racist party as we now have with Max Bernier's Peoples Party.

Overt and covert racism is alive and kicking in Canada. White priviledge is rampant as is white male priviledge. Diversity and Inclusion policies in the private sector are a fig leaf solution to the eniquities that exist. Systemic racism is well entrenched and is only exascerbated by classism. The combination continues to keep many people down and without opportunities to thrive in our society.

So yes, what Justin Trudeau did 2 decades ago is extremely offensive and demonstrates that he is an entitled, somewhat dim witted tool. But in the scheme of everything we are facing right now, I think this contrite tool is a better outcome for our future than Scheer who I am sure is just a puppet controlled by more crafty and capable Conservative interests.

laine lowe=white  liberal hack boderline racist.

BULLSHIT.. Facts only, please.

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WWWTT wrote:

laine lowe wrote:

What a shitfest. Wished so many were as concerned and up on their hind quarters when we saw Canada officially usher in an extreme right wing anit-immigration and racist party as we now have with Max Bernier's Peoples Party.

Overt and covert racism is alive and kicking in Canada. White priviledge is rampant as is white male priviledge. Diversity and Inclusion policies in the private sector are a fig leaf solution to the eniquities that exist. Systemic racism is well entrenched and is only exascerbated by classism. The combination continues to keep many people down and without opportunities to thrive in our society.

So yes, what Justin Trudeau did 2 decades ago is extremely offensive and demonstrates that he is an entitled, somewhat dim witted tool. But in the scheme of everything we are facing right now, I think this contrite tool is a better outcome for our future than Scheer who I am sure is just a puppet controlled by more crafty and capable Conservative interests.

laine lowe=white  liberal hack boderline racist.

You seem preoccupied with calling everyone you don’t agree with a racist.

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Oh fer fucksakes, a bunch of white guys throwing racist accusations all over the place. For one, Karl Nerenberg is no more racist than any of us who enjoy white privilege and have grown up in a racist society. So check your piety at the door. Secondly, you will recall when Prince Harry dressed up as a Nazi for a costume party. Youthful stupidity, ignorance and incredible privilege at work. It's a direct parallel to Trudeau's idiocy in the yearbook. Thirdly, if you actually know racialized and other marignalized people, ask them what they think before you put forward your eversoimportant white male views on racism. You might be surprised.

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Thanks MegB well said

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In my view, the best thing we could possibly do in this federal election is to win as many seats for the NDP as humanly possible.   While not perfect, in general it shares the values of most of the people who post here, finally has a person of colour as a party leader, and around 30% of party candidates are black, indigenous or people of colour...the most diverse party slate ever.

As far as the federal election goes, I can't think of a better shot back at the systemic racism of this country.

jatt_1947 jatt_1947's picture

Racism leaves one hurt, confused and wondering who their friends are.

For example, I know a Sikh who is presently dealing with an accusation of wanting to fly airplanes into buildings and commit a suicide attack on civilians.

-_-

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I'm not going to get into a big fight over racism. Singh could never become PM because he wears a turban,and his skin colour (but that is open to debate seeing that one of the most racist countries in the world somehow elected a black man not once but twice)

For example, last year when La Meute was protesting, a woman was approached by a reporter asking to the effect why are you here?

And then she went on a a tangent about 'halal...it's EVERYWHERE I see'

I think deeply racist people are those of little wit,little intellect and little fragile egos. These are the real snowflakes, the Right is full of them.

As racism goes Canada has a lot of them too.

The fact that Bernier's little Canadian Nazi Party has almost 10% support says it all.

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alan smithee wrote:

The fact that Bernier's little Canadian Nazi Party has almost 10% support says it all.

No, less than 5%

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alan smithee alan smithee's picture

bekayne wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

The fact that Bernier's little Canadian Nazi Party has almost 10% support says it all.

No, less than 5%

I saw a poll that Bernier's party at 9.4%

But who cares? Even 5% is way too high.

You clearly missed the whole point of my comment 

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kropotkin1951 wrote:

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By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

Fuck off privileged white person.

Brown person here.  I also find the repeated allegations of "racism" from WWT extremely off-putting. Yet another reason I rarely post.

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pookie wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

 

By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

Fuck off privileged white person.

Brown person here.  I also find the repeated allegations of "racism" from WWT extremely off-putting. Yet another reason I rarely post.

What's also off-putting about WWWTT's posts is the incredibly rude and profanity-filled way they're written, in addition to the constant accusations of "racism" against anyone who even vaguely seems to have a differing point of view. 

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The Conservatives are increasing their lead over the Liberals and now lead them by 5% and if this keeps up will be heading into majority government territory

As Karl N mentioned in his latest column it would be a Canadian political tragedy if because of Trudeau’s fuckups Canadians get saddled with another Conservative majority government

So those constant 24/7 attacks on Jagmeet Singh since he became NDP leader may play right into the hands of the Conservatives by attempting to destroy a progressive alternative to the stumbling Trudeau

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R.E.Wood wrote:

pookie wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

 

By the way  WWT your personal attacks on people are not helping matters, so please do us a favour and try to lay off that approach.

Fuck off privileged white person.

Brown person here.  I also find the repeated allegations of "racism" from WWT extremely off-putting. Yet another reason I rarely post.

What's also off-putting about WWWTT's posts is the incredibly rude and profanity-filled way they're written, in addition to the constant accusations of "racism" against anyone who even vaguely seems to have a differing point of view. 

Agreed.  But Babble has featured astonishingly rude, profane and ranty posts forever.  ETA: Debates over tone have long been a feature too, which I understand since tone-policing can be used to deflect from important conversations.  But the current string of posts in question is just gratuitous.

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