The NDP going, going, gone?

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The NDP going, going, gone?
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By Robert Billyard; September 1, 2018.

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Both the NDP and the Green Party have some heavy soul-searching to do in the immediate future. Both have to decide if they are serious contenders in 2019 or; just going through the motions? If it is the latter they might as well close up shop now and award the Liberals another victory by default.

Trudeau is laying the ground work to further advance his globalist agenda and it must be vigorously challenged.

The Green Party has a capable leader with no caucus. Given the issue of climate change and this government’s failure to act decisively it can make big gains should it take the initiative.

The NDP has a strong caucus with a floundering leader. His Tweeted response to the death of John McCain is just one more blooper. Silence is sometimes golden.

The party allowed an unseated candidate to run which was a mistake. The mistake was compounded by neither the leader or the party realizing the urgency of his having a seat; up to and including arranging for an incumbent to resign and parachute Singh into a safe seat.

As it stands now Singh’s leadership is dead in the water. He stands ready to run in a by-election in a riding he has only an outside chance of winning. The PM has until March 2019 to call the by-election. In other words, the PM has a lot of scheduling power to keep Singh’s leadership on hold and neutralize his political fortunes.

If the by-election is called before the end of the year and he loses, his leadership is toast. If it is called in the new year and he loses it is a full-blown disaster for the party.

Singh leads a caucus of 42 members. As long as the leadership conundrum remains unsolved these seats are threatened and any potential gains in the next election a pipe dream.

So too is funding an issue. Donors will hold back as long as the leadership conundrum is ongoing. The longer it lingers the credibility of the party diminishes.

For the sake of the party, the country and the immediacy of the 2019 election Singh should stand aside, and defer his leadership ambitions to a later date. He should invite the party to pick a new leader at the earliest possible date.

His graciousness could reap big rewards at a later date.

The public will forgive mistakes made; but will condemn a conundrum that persists, perpetrated by those supposed to lead and show competence.

gadar

Since apparently NDP is going going gone and Liberals are in such a bad shape that they should change the leader. That leaves one, the one who is not to be mentioned. Because if you mention the one on a progressive board that will elicit negative response. So the best way to promote' the one' in a progressive environment is to degrade his opponents without ever explicitly supporting the unmentioned.

And this comment is not directed at any particular poster and definitely not at indigo 007

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

gadar wrote:

Since apparently NDP is going going gone and Liberals are in such a bad shape that they should change the leader. That leaves one, the one who is not to be mentioned. Because if you mention the one on a progressive board that will elicit negative response. So the best way to promote' the one' in a progressive environment is to degrade his opponents without ever explicitly supporting the unmentioned.

And this comment is not directed at any particular poster and definitely not at indigo 007

Wait...you think he wants Mulcair back? If that's not what you meant which one would you mean?  Cullen?  Message me with it if you really feel you can't mention it in the thread for fear of world-historical blowback.  

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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So the best way to promote' the one' in a progressive environment is to degrade his opponents without ever explicitly supporting the unmentioned.

Things have to get worse before they'll get better.

Centrism of any sort is the real enemy, because it's what keeps the people satisfied enough to not choose the extremes.

The reason more people don't choose "Suicide Wings" at the chicken wing place isn't because of "Mild Wings" (and similarly, the reason more people don't choose "Mild Wings" isn't because of "Suicide Wings) -- it's because "Medium Wings" are an option.  Not too spicy, not too bland either. 

So in politics, unsurprisingly, both sides resent the middle for stealing what might otherwise be their support.

 

gadar

Ken Burch wrote:

Seriously, you want Mulcair back?  Even though it's impossible for a guy who lost more than half his party's seats in one election to lead that party to gains in the next one?  How can he ever be a success in 2019 after being a failure in 2015?  

I dont want Mulcair back, I dont even think that the NDP is going going gone, and I dont think the Liberals need a new leader. I think Singh is going to do just fine. Wont win the election or even the official opposition but he will keep things interesting and will be relevent and will keep the NDP relevent.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

gadar wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:

Seriously, you want Mulcair back?  Even though it's impossible for a guy who lost more than half his party's seats in one election to lead that party to gains in the next one?  How can he ever be a success in 2019 after being a failure in 2015?  

I dont want Mulcair back, I dont even think that the NDP is going going gone, and I dont think the Liberals need a new leader. I think Singh is going to do just fine. Wont win the election or even the official opposition but he will keep things interesting and will be relevent and will keep the NDP relevent.

Oh(and I was trying to edit that to make it about who you thought that blogger may have meant by "the one".  Realized I'd personalized and misdirected that.  Sorry.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

The NDP doesn't HAVE to be "going, going, gone".  It can still make a respectable showing in the next election.  But it can only do that if it starts actually saying things and standing for things again.  The party needs to convey the kind of passion evoked here, by the Welsh actor Michael Sheen, as he pays tribute to Aneurin Bevan, the left-wing Labour politician and the father of the National Health Service: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=378&v=OiHILXXst5E

It's a waste of time trying to appeal to "the middle of the road".  It's a waste of time trying to look "safe" or "respectable".  "Respectability" is just another word for giving up on everything.

lagatta4

Ken, that was beautiful - too bad the very beginning of the speech is missing.

Unionist

lagatta4 wrote:

Ken, that was beautiful - too bad the very beginning of the speech is missing.

It's not missing, lagatta. Try clicking on this link instead. 

gadar

Hopefully NDP is in active contact with Dias and Yussuf. 

"I can't think of any trade agreement, ever, where labour has played any sort of an active role," said Jerry Dias, national president of Unifor, Canada's largest private sector union which represents the autoworkers. "NAFTA has been a game-changer for the labour movement and how working class people are treated as it relates to trade."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-unions-labour-day-1.4808379

lagatta4

Unionist, thanks for that. I've sent it to my MP and my MNA.