NDP Toronto Danforth Candidate
January 9, 2012 - 11:40pm
Can anyone fill me in on Craig Scott, the winner of the NDP Toronto Danforth riding nomination process?
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They have this new thing on the Internet called Google.
http://craigscottndp.ca/
Law professor, human rights activist. Recieved praise from Alex Neve of Amnesty International. Sounds like a fantastic candidate to me
RE:
I think that I half remember during QP the NDP talking about charging Canadian companies for breaking laws even if the crime did not take place in Canada. For example, breaking environmental law or hiring someone to murder a union leader.
I'm not much of a Twitter fan, but if you follow the #TorDan hashtag, you'll get updates on how things are going.
Including two comments from Chris Tindal, Green Party stalwart (but less partisan than before?):
In case you don't know, I'm not an #NDP partisan, but Chow is burning this barn. #TorDan
So, @CraigScottNDP wins the nomination on the first ballot. The best choice, I think. #TorDan #NDP
By the way, how many members voted? I see a photo that looks like a packed hall.
By chance, he wouldn't happen to be related to Reid Scott, former NDP M.P. for Danforth 1962-1968, would he?
Thanks for posting - great to see pictures of nomination mtg and Olivia rocking the house!
Chris Tindal has never been very partisan.
On top of which, there is little going on the ground in the GPC.
I'm not sure about that, Wilf. I noticed Tindal taking a few gentle jabs here and there during his coverage. But it was amusing, not mean-spirited, and actually, I thought his coverage was pretty good overall. I also liked that he gave credit where credit was due.
"By any standard of NDP drinking games, I'd have alcohol poisoning by now. #TorDan"
Heh. :)
ottawaobserver wrote
"They have this new thing on the Internet called Google" in response to my question "Can anyone fill me in on Craig Scott, the winner of the NDP Toronto Danforth riding nomination process?"
Perhaps I could have framed the question better by asking if anyone knew more about the candidate on a personal level that one is not likely to find on the internet in order to get a better understanding of Scott than is typically found in the "objective" media.
However, after 40 years of teaching, I have learned there is only one kind of question that is stupid - the one designed to show off one's knowledge or make the other person look stupid. Many times I have found the person who asked the most questions in my classes, initially to my surprise, got the highest marks, even sometimes when other people in the class were groaning because they thought the question was stupid. I also quickly learned that even if only one person was asking questions, there were in most cases many others who had the same question, but were afraid to ask it because of the reaction they might get. On the other hand, those who told me on the first day that they already had a great understanding of the subject rarely did well.
So I asked myself why this occurred repeatedly. The best answer I could come up with was that once people think that they fully understand something they do not try to understand more about it. So here is another "dumb" question: why the sarcasm?
Thanks to all of you who provided information on Craig Scott.
When I was a trainer during my 20 plus years in the service, I always told my students "the only dumb question is the one you don't ask". Nuff said? Good.
@jerrym: I didn't write that, but I apologize for the comment aimed at you.
why the sarcasm?
It didn't read sarcastic to me. It read funny; and she answered your question with a link. If you had asked "does anyone know more about the candidate on a personal level that is not in his bio" she might have answered that too.
Only moderators get to be sarcastic. Part of the job description. Everyone else must be consistently sweet and positive.
Chris Tindal has never been very partisan.
On top of which, there is little going on the ground in the GPC.
I remember him from the Ward 27 contest. Struck me as a decent guy. for a Green (he was nice to my guy, who was running for TDSB at the time).
Only moderators get to be sarcastic. Part of the job description. Everyone else must be consistently sweet and positive.
I'm in trouble, then.
ignore old goat because he only pretends to be a gruff old goat!
By chance, he wouldn't happen to be related to Reid Scott, former NDP M.P. for Danforth 1962-1968, would he?
So, no one knows if there is a relationship between the two Scotts?
Q&A with Craig Scott - Jack Layton's successor in Toronto-Danforth
Can you describe what you were feeling Monday night?
I think the most exciting part was the energy in the room. There were somewhere around 800 people and there was a kind of "go-forward" energy and atmosphere that was bigger than the nomination itself.
Did you know Jack?
No, I didn't have the privilege of knowing Jack. I was in rooms with him and inspired by him, but I didn't have that privilege.
How does it feel to be taking over the nomination in his old riding?
It's daunting and it's an honour as well. People ask what it's like to aspire to replace him and the first thing I say is that nobody can replace him - absolutely not. I think of it as following in his footsteps, not walking in his shoes. This riding has come to expect exceptional representation so expectations have to be high, but nobody can reach his level; he had become a very special Canadian.
Are you endorsing anyone for the party leadership?
No. I'm still undecided myself. I made my final decision to seek the nomination only after watching the first debate to see what kind of chemistry and intellectual energy there was amongst the leadership candidates. I came away extremely impressed with well over half the field, all of whom I could see becoming leader.
What do you think the party should be looking for in its next leader?
It's obvious, but Quebec has to be taken extraordinarily seriously as the new stronghold that it has become. Quebec has to become central to how the NDP grows and the rest of Canada has to understand the social-democratic tradition in Quebec and see that connection in their own values. I think when that happens the NDP will actually have strength there and in the rest of Canada in a way that kind of bypasses a lot of the old, sterile debates around the relationship between Quebec and the rest of the country.
It also has to be somebody who has absolutely solid credentials on two things: One is a commitment to a rapid transformation to the green economy and somebody who is absolutely trustworthy when it comes to the core NDP foci in the past half-century - combatting serious disadvantage and marginalization in our society.
If you are elected MP, what will be your priorities?
I want to make sure I bring to Parliament the perspectives of the variety of communities and people of Toronto-Danforth. It's diverse culturally and it also has serious income disparities and very different life experiences. It's kind of a microcosm of what a national party needs to take seriously. So I'm hoping to create those kinds of national riding linkages.
What are you doing tomorrow?
I'm meeting with folks to figure out next steps on campaigning. But I also have to finish my last little bit of marking for my first-term course. [Laughing] My students are probably saying, "What? Those marks were supposed to be in two days ago."
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1113686--q-a-with-craig-scott-jack-layton-s-successor-in-toronto-danforth
Law professor, human rights activist. Recieved praise from Alex Neve of Amnesty International. Sounds like a fantastic candidate to me
Seems like a bit of an elitist intellectual.
Thanks OnTheLeft for the article on Craig Scott. It was very informative.
Debater, it is interesting to see you using the same smear that the Conservatives used on Iggy. Maybe you would feel more at home in that party.
Second that thanks.
btw jerrym - I think that Debator was trying to pay Scott a comment.
Scott seems to be interested in crimes that Canadian companies commit outside of Canada. The NDP have been talking, in Question Period, about a law to charge Canadian companies for crimes even if the crime they committed was not committed on Canadian soil.
Still trying to figure out how to pronounce Scott's husband's name.
Craig Scott is hitting it out of the park this morning on the story about the government's about-face on recognizing same-sex marriages performed in Canada on citizens of other countries. Here he is on Twitter:
CraigScottNDP 1/3 Govt argues foreign same-sex marriage null. Harper ducks: "lawyers" and"law" responsible.Shameful. tinyurl.com/8xrn7ob #cdnpoli #ndpldr (link)
CraigScottNDP 2/3 Who decided agst #lgbt? Rare that Dept of Justice does anything w/out complete political vetting. tinyurl.com/8xrn7ob #ndpldr #cdnpoli (link)
CraigScottNDP 3/3 After this tinyurl.com/8xrn7ob will Vic Toews, John Baird et al dare appear on TV to tell LGBT youth "It gets better"? #ndpldr #cdnpoli (link)
If elected, how many out MPs would the NDP have? Five?
Law professor, human rights activist. Recieved praise from Alex Neve of Amnesty International. Sounds like a fantastic candidate to me
Seems like a bit of an elitist intellectual.
Then the Liberals should adore him!
The Liberals contending for their party's nomination in T-D sound distinctly UN-formidable - not that I would ever want to get over-confident.
http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/01/25/liberal-nominees-vie-to-take-on-ndp-i...
No word on when the Liberal nomination is though, so maybe there is a star just waiting in the wings? (trying not to laugh)... so your right, we can not take any riding for granted and having for years been a TDer i know our ground game is good and there is a committed bunch of members in TD. We just have to work as hard to get Scott elected and i'm sure just as we are going to throw everything we have into the riding the liberals will try to to. It was an obvious huge boost for Scott to be included at the caucus meeting, he spoke well in the Star articule and thats bound to help give him some media coverage ahead of any liberal.
If elected, how many out MPs would the NDP have? Five?
from my count yes... Morin (Danny, not Marie-Claude or Isabelle)), Garrisson, Davies (Libby, not Don), Toone and Scott. Nicely distributed as well, 2BC, 2PQ and 1ON (if Scott wins)
Some one is assuming that there are not-yet-out sitting MPs?
Yes, Scot spoke well.
Some one is assuming that there are not-yet-out sitting MPs?
Yes, Scot spoke well.
true, but were the NDP so really no need to be in the closet :P (but who am i to rush anyone, or to gossip about it) ... its not like were the Liberals or the tories here now (right Baird)
Can someone update me on the Danforth byelection situation now that it has been called?
Looks like Stephen Harper is setting the byelection date for March 12, and Conservatives and some of the press are calling it for the Liberals.
Historically it has been a Liberal district, before Layton.
I don't ee any of the press "calling it for the Liberals" on the contrary the press have been tweeting that they thing its about 95% chance of staying NDP. The only one "calling it" for the Liberals is a clearly mischievous Tory press release that is obviously just trying to play mind games with the Liberals (and to some extent with the NDP). One thing the Tories know for sure is that they have so little support in TD that they will have a hard time keping ahead of the Green Party - so why not stir things up with absurd spin.
Historically it has been a Liberal district, before Layton.
I'm not sure where you get that idea from. Toronto-Danforth in its various incarnations was a Tory stronghold from Confederation to 1963, then it went Liberal in '63, then it went NDP in 1965, 1968, 1972 and 1974, then it stayed NDP in a byelection with Rae in 1978 then it went NDP in 1978 and 1980, then it stayed NDP in a 1982 byelection and in the 1984 general election. Then Dennis Mills won it in 1988 and 1993 and 1997 and 2000 - then Jack Layton won it for the NDP in 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2011. Provincially the Danforth riding has been consistently NDP for the past 40-odd years!
I think that the important point is that Toronto-Danforth will be decided two weeks before the Leadership.
If the NDP win, then they go into the Leadership on a high.
However, if the NDP lose Toronto-Danforth, then all the momentum would be gone and there won't be time to get it back before the leadership race.
This puts even more pressure on the NDP to win this seat.
And the Tories could care less whether it is a Tory or a Liberal who wins if they want to deflate the NDP.
Who is running against Craig Scott anyway?
Historically it has been a Liberal district, before Layton.
I'm not sure where you get that idea from. Toronto-Danforth in its various incarnations was a Tory stronghold from Confederation to 1963, then it went Liberal in '63, then it went NDP in 1965, 1968, 1972 and 1974, then it stayed NDP in a byelection with Rae in 1978 then it went NDP in 1978 and 1980, then it stayed NDP in a 1982 byelection and in the 1984 general election. Then Dennis Mills won it in 1988 and 1993 and 1997 and 2000 - then Jack Layton won it for the NDP in 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2011. Provincially the Danforth riding has been consistently NDP for the past 40-odd years!
Yes, it's had a varied history, although it's basically an NDP-Liberal riding now. The fact that it was Conservative in its early days over half a century ago is no longer relevant since many ridings in Toronto were right-wing then. The entire demographics and composition of Toronto was very different until a couple of decades ago when the city become more left-wing. There was a time when Toronto was considered a Conservative stronghold! Those days are over.
Maybe Dennis "More Catholic Than The Pope" Mills will try to make a comeback.
Except provincially, where it went CCF in 1943 and 1948, as did next-door Woodbine, which Ken Bryden won back in 1959, no small feat; a man who should not be forgotten (and died only ten years ago):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Bryden
Toronto Danforth has basically been NDP for as long as i have been alive - except for an interregnum in the 90s which was a highly unusual period when the federal NDP was in single digits nationally and the Liberals were winning virtually every single seat in Ontario.
As I predicted on the other thread, I'm expecting it to go NDP.
The reason the Conservatives are predicting it will go Liberal is old Machiavellian Harper up to his old tricks again. He wants to portray it as a Liberal riding so that when the Liberals likely don't win it he can then portray it as evidence of Liberal problems etc.
Last year I think Jack carried every poll:
Except provincially, where it went CCF in 1943 and 1948, as did next-door Woodbine, which Ken Bryden won back in 1959, no small feat; a man who should not be forgotten (and died only ten years ago):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Bryden
Thank you for that, Wilf. Someone came into the officelast Spring talking about having campaigned for Marion Bryden. To my great embarrassment, I had to admit my ignorance
Apparently due to some bureaucratic foul-up in the PMO, the byelection will be one week later on march 19 instead of March 12...probably doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things...assuming that the NDP wins easily (which i expect), it will be a good way to start the week of the leadership convention!
They have this new thing on the Internet called Google.
http://craigscottndp.ca/
Darn those arrogant (would be) moderators. This thread: better dead than read.
Best of luck Craig Scott - Make Jack proud!
Indeed Craig, best of luck to you and your team.
The NDP will probably win.
The interesting part will be to see how the popular vote shakes down. If the Liberals go up in the popular vote from last year, it may indicate a recovery in the GTA. Will also be interesting to see whether the Conservatives are able to improve on their popular vote, or whether they have declined since last year.
Might also be interesting to see whether the Green Party is still alive and whether it can get a few percentage points.
Is there any chance the Cons will tell their voters to vote Liberal in order to try to embarrass the NDP by defeating them since they are now the larger opposition party?
Is there any chance the Cons will tell their voters to vote Liberal in order to try to embarrass the NDP by defeating them since they are now the larger opposition party?
I doubt it. The Liberal Party raised more money than the NDP in the fourth quarter of last year, so they're still a force to be reckoned with.
Is there any chance the Cons will tell their voters to vote Liberal in order to try to embarrass the NDP by defeating them since they are now the larger opposition party?
I doubt it. The Liberal Party raised more money than the NDP in the fourth quarter of last year, so they're still a force to be reckoned with.
Winning a by-election is symbolic though, and could affect the ndp momentum. I could totally picture that happening as they love dirty tricks, just look at the history of SGI.
There is so little Tory support in Toronto-Danforth in the first place that there are virtually no voters for them to "instruct". There is nothing there!
Boy the Danforth byelection is turning into more of a Liberal trainwreck every day!
Now itseems that anti-abortion freaks are staging a hostile takeover of the riding association...btw: its interesting to note that the anti-abortion guy trying to get the Liberal nomination ran twice for the Green Party....so much for Elizabeth May's "quality control"
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/liberals-fear-pro-l...
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1129106--liberals-pick-newcomer-gran...
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1129106--liberals-pick-newcomer-gran...
Grant Gordon doesn't even have a Wikipedia page yet. But his partner does:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gill_Deacon
But Grant Gordon isn't even the candidate in Toronto-Danforth. Interim Leader Bob Rae is:
assessment: rae poster is great for them; candidate poster's list of qualifications almost makes me laugh up against our candidate.
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
To think tha the liberals described Craig Scott as "lackluster"!! He's a Rhodes Scholar and co-author of the South African constitution and the Liberals run the founder of the Toronto Bridge Club?? I wonder if he plays "Blackwood Conventio"?
I'm going to steal that!
Just when you thought Andrew Lang couldn't stir the pot any longer, look who pops up. Ah, Liberals: the blood feuds never disappoint.
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
If so, he's over-qualified.
Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
I guess Mr. tor bridge founder had more support from Lib insiders than Lang. Lang sounds bitter and twisted - and how different is that?
I guess Mr. tor bridge founder had more support from Lib insiders than Lang. Lang sounds bitter and twisted - and how different is that?
"We're listening. We're changing. We want you* back."
*Andrew Langs not included.
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
If so, he's over-qualified.
hahahahhah!
the south african constitution, by the way, has the strongest gay rights protects of any constitution on the planet earth.
a neat bbc radio doc on how it happened: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/docarchive/docarchive_2...
Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
If he plays duplicate bridge - maybe he can try to be a duplicate of Andrew Lang!
Can anyone "trump" that juicy retort?
OMG, ... co-founder of the Toronto Bridge Club. He's running for the Senate, right?
I guess Andrew is a Liberal because it 'suit's him. He hopes that he's no 'dummy'. We have to wonder if he has the 'heart' for politics in his 'bid' for the seat, but I think we can tell that he's just a 'card',
The better the pun, the bigger the groan!
Young almost hits a 'grand slam" but with 5 "tricks" he makes a small slam on ode to bridge founder - good one to all!
But Grant Gordon isn't even the candidate in Toronto-Danforth. Interim Leader Bob Rae is:
The Liberals need to run that last scene from "Shane" as their campaign advertisement.
"Shane!.... Come back!...."
"Please vote for us. We'll do anything. ANYTHING. If we win a by-election in Ontario, Bob Rae will sit in a dunk tank and let you throw rocks at him! We also have cookies. Cookies? No?..."
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1131505--poll-ndp-will-win-toronto-danforth-byelection-by-wide-margin?bn=1
Not a fan of how this might make us complacent, and i just don't think we can take any riding for granted. I do not see that happening from the Team in TD, good on Scott for fighting for it!
As much as i agree with it, and hey who dosen't like an ego boost... it might just get people to not vote and whoops there goes the liberals who now are going to be desperate to get every last voter out.
I find it astonishing that the polls were showing a creep like Rae was doing so well while the NDP was going through its leadership race.
But seeing this poll makes one wonder whether those rumours of a total Liberal collapse are coming true after all.
I am not in any way suggesting complatency but hopefully after the by-election we can firmly put those nonsensical msp media comments about a Liberal recovery to rest once and for all.
It would warm my heart to see the Liberals end up in 3rd or even possibly 4th place.
If the Liberals lose as badly as the poll suggests then this will be a particulary harsh verdict on Rae. Consider:
1. He has had lots of recent publicity, most of it quite fawning.
2.He has campaigned openly in the riding with his picture prominently displayed on the candidate's literature (and at twice the size of the candidate)
3. This is his old federal riding where people presumably know him best.
If the Liberals lose as badly as the poll suggests then this will be a particulary harsh verdict on Rae. Consider:
1. He has had lots of recent publicity, most of it quite fawning.
2.He has campaigned openly in the riding with his picture prominently displayed on the candidate's literature (and at twice the size of the candidate)
3. This is his old federal riding where people presumably know him best.
4. Rae own riding is right next door Toronto Centre
The gap is not that great between the Liberals and the Torioes according to this poll. i think the Tories shoudl spend the legal maximum and see if they can drive the liberals into third place!
The gap is not that great between the Liberals and the Torioes according to this poll. i think the Tories shoudl spend the legal maximum and see if they can drive the liberals into third place!
That was my thought too. Assert the end of Liberal fortunes in the GTA.
So Howard and Stock want an NDP "grand slam" - Go Craig - make us proud - NDP Danforth riding association rocks!
you should visit the comment section of the paper and give a few ticks here and there. It looks like the few people working on the Libs campaign are trying to suggest the poll results are not true. lol
The Liberals have absolutely nothing to lose in this race. If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat. If they win, then we have serious, serious egg on our faces.
The Liberals have absolutely nothing to lose in this race. If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat. If they win, then we have serious, serious egg on our faces.
It's up to the NDP to get the Liberal vote low enough, so that the Tory vote can be high enough, to push the Liberals into third place.
But, the Liberals couldn't even win Bob Rae's old seat! If they can't win in the old fiefdom of Bob Rae - they cannot win ANYWHERE!
just remember what happened in winnipeg north - twice! and that was under the igg
Agreed, like i mentioned we can't get over confident and take the riding fro granted. In the case of TD i don't see that happening, the party is putting a lot of resources and Scott continues to say "were not taking it for granted" :P I think we learned our lesson on the ground
the MAIN difference between WN and TD, is there is no strong Liberal candidate. Lamoureux was a legitemate "star" candidate which is something thankfully we don't have to worry about facing.
In Winnipeg North the NDP also had to contend with a provincial government that was in a bit of a popularity trough and a some latent (and not so latent) racism against an aboriginal candidate.
If they lose, especially if their vote goes up, then they say it was clearly a safe NDP seat.
Agreed, but that's pre-supposing they come in 2nd. The poll indicates that might not be the case. If they come in third, that would be a serious embarrassment to them.
Liberals and Buzz Hargrove know the drill as they have been spewing it out for years and years. Strategic voting. Well if that is the case, to keep the Cons at bay, the Liberals should all be jumping on the NDP bandwagon now shouldn't they!
ha ha ha - yeah, make sure to vote NDP because voting liberal is a waste of a vote. I am just saying what you mean NR - but I so dispised strategic voting because often it was done in races between NDP and liberal and the cons weren't even a factor.
Liberals and Buzz Hargrove know the drill as they have been spewing it out for years and years. Strategic voting. Well if that is the case, to keep the Cons at bay, the Liberals should all be jumping on the NDP bandwagon now shouldn't they!
Oh well...to all the Dippers who cheered when Bob Rae was chosen ONDP leader back in 82, I just keep sayin' "I told you so!" I saw this kind of thing coming a mile away. I worked on Richard Johnston's campaign for ONDP leader in 82
Looks Andrew Lang has realized his comments don't exactly help the Liberal cause, and is trying to deny he said what he said.
Meanwhile, Andrew Lang may no longer be the candidate, but his doucheyness lives on in Grant Gordon.
Is that what the Liberals meant by "we're changing," as in, we're changing the written record?
Or is it, "we're changing," sorry you had to see us in this state of undress.
So, can anyone who actually know this riding and its politics provide an informed opinion on what well happen tonight?
The NDP will win. Check out the Ontario threads on this by-election Arthur. Posters, although they do not want to assume anything and so getting out our vote is of prime importance today, are doing predictions on the election results.
Is that what the Liberals meant by "we're changing," as in, we're changing the written record?
Or is it, "we're changing," sorry you had to see us in this state of undress.
I hate predicting, but i'd say this is an NDP win. The riding is very progressive and left wing, esp. in the south in Riverdale and Leslieville (areas thats have in many cases successfully fought off big box stores and huge condo developments, there are many indie business's and artist who live/work there. a mix of young families, LGBTers, old time working class who wont/haven't sold their homes yet, large chinese, greek and south east asian populations as well. The North is largely working class too, much more greek i'd say but i'm more familiar with the south end).
I did a 501 Queen street car ride from end-to-end last week, here is my not so scientific sign war assesment:
- Between Broadview and Jones; i saw on average 5-6 NDP signs down each side street, 2 liberal signs and 2 geen signs, 0 tory signs. From Living in South Riverdale; i find this to be a strong area for the NDP, north of Gerrard is where you find the Liberal vote increase along with income.
- From Jones to Coxwell (i believe that the dividing line) this is where i started to see more Liberal signs, 1 liberal for every 4 NDP signs on average (some streets had more than 2 or three liberals signs but not much more than than, some streets had only NDP signs). My only conjecture here is that more and more "liberals" are buying homes in leslieville as they are being out-priced in Riverdale. some traditional liberal vote might be coming out of the closet too out this way (heading towards the beaches)
My guess is NDP 45-55% LIB 18-25%
It's interesting to see the comments section in the globe and mail. A lot of furious Liberals (or Conservative anti-NDPers). I fully expect Mr. Scott to earn 60+% of the vote, reminding me that the comments section of the globe and mail is not representative of anyone or anything.
Meanwhile, Andrew Lang may no longer be the candidate, but his doucheyness lives on in Grant Gordon.
Oh, come on, that's funny! Made me laugh.
Based on what I saw "in the field", while pulling the vote today, I would have to say that it will be and NDP win. But I don't believe the margin will be as large as some are expecting. A lot of the voters we were trying to pull had Liberal vote pulllers coming to the door as well. Some were feeling quite overwhelmed by the near constant blitzing that they have been under with constant phone and door knocking. Unfortunately, there may be some pushback and/or apathy caused by overkill on the campaign.
Scott 349........59.9%
Gordon 179.....30%
Conservative 26......4.5%
Polls reportin 5/196
Edit: Nevermind, you already fixed it!
Sorry I fixed the result right away...
we are cross posting...
Lib 476 29.1%
NDP 954 58.2%
Greens and Cons tied 86 votes each for 5.3%
14/196 reporting
NDP .....1162..... 58.7%
Liberal ...573..... 29.0%
Con ......102....... 5.2%
Green ....94....... 4.8%
Polls reportin 17/196
NDP .....1301..... 57.9%
Liberal ...665..... 29.6%
Con ......124....... 5.5%
Green ...105....... 4.7%
Polls reportin 20/196
NDP .....1752..... 58.6%
Liberal ...875..... 29.2%
Con ......164....... 5.5%
Green ...133....... 4.4%
Polls reportin 25/196
How exciting. Live results here. Looks good so far.
NDP .....2196..... 57.8%
Liberal .1137..... 29.9%
Con ......201....... 5.3%
Green ...174....... 4.6%
Polls reporting 31/196
NDP .....3182..... 57.9%
Liberal .1647..... 30.0%
Con ......293....... 5.3%
Green ...257....... 4.7%
Polls reporting 45/196
Does anyone know which polls? Are these all NDP polls? Will it tighten up later? Is this a good result? By how much must they win to convince the MSM the NDP isn't finished?
- dp. I have no idea why.
So far it's a little worse than Jack did but not so much so that it gives the other parties something to crow about.
NDP Craig Scott 4095 58.5%
Liberal Grant Gordon 2,067 29.5%
Conservative Andrew Keyes 374 5.3%
Green PartyAdriana Mugnatto-Hamu 317 4.7%
55/ 196 Polls
Well, 45 out of 196 polls so far. So, it's early, but signs are pointing to a thorough victory by Craig Scott and the NDP.
65 polls now, and still holding.
NDP Craig Scott 5266 58.1%
Liberal Grant Gordon 2,698 29.8%
Conservative Andrew Keyes 480 5.3%
Green PartyAdriana Mugnatto-Hamu 427 4.7%
75/ 196 Polls
NDP .....7025..... 58.1%
Liberal .3600..... 29.8%
Con ......611....... 5.1%
Green ...493....... 4.9%
Polls reporting 91/196
NDP .....7848..... 58.4%
Liberal .3964..... 29.5%
Con ......688....... 5.1%
Green ...663....... 4.9%
Polls reporting 101/196
Catch up with the ongoing discussion here! Closing this thread for length.