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Paul Martin Attacks Mulcair on Dutch Disease

Arthur Cramer
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What a jerk!

In part from the Huffington Post: " Martin says it's overly simplistic for Mulcair to blame Canada's prosperous oilsands for artificially elevating the dollar and hurting manufacturing exports. "To simplify what is a really important issue like that really does nobody a service," Martin told reporters Monday. " And then a little further on, the usual tired old Liberal plattitude: "

"If your philosophy is in order to have a strong country you have got to have both a good balance sheet and strong social programs, (then) we are the only political party that advocates that.

"We are not a party of the extremes of either the right or the left, and I think that that's what Canadians ultimately will be looking for."

 

I truly can't understand why people can't see this guy for what he is, a lackey of the Corporate Elite and a completely out-of-touch 1%er.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/11/paul-martin-dutch-disease_n_1588056.html?ref=canada

 

 Enough of your mischief. Go away Mr Dithers!


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Vansterdam Kid
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Considering how Martin is a huge cause of the Liberal Party's current state of irrelevance I think we should play "it's opposite day" whenever he speaks. Although I guess we NDP'ers could thank him for helping to make the NDP's (partial*) breakthorugh possible. The guy constantly undermined Chretien for pure personal gain (i.e. he wanted to become Prime Minister sooner rather than later), he wrote the budgets that eviscerated the social safety net thus making Harper look like an economic moderate, he managed to take his party from about 50% in the polls to 30% and his alleged economic genius involved downloading costs to other governments and relying purely on a low dollar and a debt bubble. Yeah, I'm worried about his astute analysis. ;)

*Of course it isn't complete until the Cons are beaten too.


Stockholm
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Does anyone care what that ignorant old anus Paul Martin thinks?


Buddy Kat
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I don't know ..out of all the former PM's I liked him the best ..Even tho he looked after his shipping fleet and is a born 1% er he wasn't anywhere near the tyrant we have now. He didn't cheat to win and he did call an inquiry into the sponsorship scandel...He actually entertained leftist views if they didn't conflict with his corporate powers and he did recognize the importance of environmental assessments.....I guess the Liberals last hurrah was Stephan Dionne's effort being a former environmental minister he gambled on Canadians actually giving a crap about the environment...too little to late ..now they will have NO environment under Harper period.

 

I'd say he is just scared of what an NDP government will do, and taking the opportunity to send some support to the Libs.....because he knows the NDP will  make corporations pay their FAIR share...and curb the oil sand plow at all costs attitude.  Nope the game is over fore the Liberals and the rights "play both ends against the middle" game or the "good cop , bad cop" scenario where we either vote Lib or Con both serving the same masters..Is over...They wrecked it all and now it's time for the NDP to take over and restore Canada. They had their chance and blew it. I think under Mulcair's team, Canada has one last chance.

 


Fidel
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Canada's economy slipped backwards into hewer and drawer status on Martin's watch.

And the Liberals sold the environment to Exxon-Imperial and the fossil fuel industry.

The Liberals were obssessed over paying down debt so much so that Industry Canada said that in a comparison of aggregate performance of 25 or 30 richest economies in the decade of the 1990's, Canada's economy performed "about the worst." 

And the Martin Liberals removed tens of billions of dollars from health care and post-secondary education transfers to the provinces by 1995.

That's what Paul Martin refers to as a balanced economy.


jerrym
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The following article from 2000 shows that Paul Martin is part of the radical right 1%, with his willingness to allow a tax give away of almost a billion to the Bronfmans

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/reststory/bronfmanevade.html

Ottawa tries to cover up who's behind the $800M tax waiver

 Revenue Canada manoeuvre may nix a trial

By DIANE FRANCIS

 

 Just a few days ago, Ottawa used its legal muscle to postpone a trial into the merits, and players, involved in the controversial tax-free transfer in 1991 of a mysterious $2.2-billion trust to the United States on behalf of a wealthy and unknown family [the Bronfman family]. A tax waiver was granted, saving the family up to $800-million in taxes.Ottawa's latest legal action involving a citizen's attempt to force Revenue Canada to collect taxes from a wealthy family smacks of a cover-up. Unfortunately, time is running out because the waiver cannot be reversed after the end of 2001, or just 17 months from now. And the latest manoeuvre by Revenue Canada's hired legal guns is to postpone the trial and ask the Supreme Court of Canada to rule on whether a taxpayer citizen can sue over somebody's else's tax dodge. And no trial means a cover-up, because the identities of the people involved -- both the family and the civil servants -- will never be known or have to answer for their decision. Already two courts -- a lower and an appeal -- have ruled that a trial should be held into the merits of this questionable transfer. If the Supreme Court agrees to take the case, the trial will probably never be held before the deadline, no matter who wins.  The auditor-general was clear that this was a breach.


The transfer permission was granted in 1991 during the tenure of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and speculation is that it involves a branch of the Bronfman family. Such decisions are usually published in tax journals, but not in this case. The Liberals, also close to Bronfman , are not blameless either. The transfer was not made public until 1996, three years after the election of Prime MinisterJean Chretien. Even more interesting is that the so-called loophole in the law, through which this family drove its fortune out of the country tax-free, was not closed byPaul Martin, the Finance Minister, until October, 1996 -- four months after the federal auditor-general cited the transfer as irregular.

 


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Buddy Kat
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Paul Martin inherited a huge deficit created by the Cons ..too bad he paid for it on the backs of the provinces etc. That is his fault but then serving the 1% has it's pitfalls.

He seemed pretty  responsive too the Bilderburger questions , didn't dismiss and actually seemed pleasant in the videos. But yeah that implementation or discussion of a North american union was bad and used by the now traitor Harper to further the 1 % cause...I wonder what he thinks now in hindsight...

The NDP would of been the better government the last 20 years no doubt and we would be more than the pinnacle of the world...the banks would be in even better shape and more disciplined and they sure wouldn't need that secret 10 billion dollar hand out the cons did behind everyone's back.

Paul Martin should join the unite the left cause ....or at least point out how it was his lefty principles adopted by Tommy D and implemented by the Liberals  not criminal Harpers that made Canada the teflon coated recession proof country. Cons trying to take credit for that make me sick to say the least.

 

 


Arthur Cramer
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Buddy Kat wrote:

Paul Martin inherited a huge deficit created by the Cons ..too bad he paid for it on the backs of the provinces etc. That is his fault but then serving the 1% has it's pitfalls.

He seemed pretty  responsive too the Bilderburger questions , didn't dismiss and actually seemed pleasant in the videos. But yeah that implementation or discussion of a North american union was bad and used by the now traitor Harper to further the 1 % cause...I wonder what he thinks now in hindsight...

The NDP would of been the better government the last 20 years no doubt and we would be more than the pinnacle of the world...the banks would be in even better shape and more disciplined and they sure wouldn't need that secret 10 billion dollar hand out the cons did behind everyone's back.

Paul Martin should join the unite the left cause ....or at least point out how it was his lefty principles adopted by Tommy D and implemented by the Liberals  not criminal Harpers that made Canada the teflon coated recession proof country. Cons trying to take credit for that make me sick to say the least.

 

 

Martin will NEVER say the Libs should join with the NDP. He thinks the NDP is radical. Coming from him, that is, to say the least, "rich".


David Young
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What would Paul Martin say to the residents of the South Shore of Nova Scotia who saw one of the major employers, Bowater Abitibi, announce on Friday that the mill was being closed, putting thousands in direct and in-direct jobs out of work?

When the Canadian dollar was at 0.75% compared to the U.S. Dollar, the mill couldn't keep up with the demand; but now, with the Canadian and American dollars nearly equal, that region is losing one of it's major employers.

What say you now, Paul Martin?

 


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Paul Martin is the second worst PM in the last 10 years. He did so much damage that I can't understand anyone thinking him anything but god awful. Firstly he sold off the remaining portion(25%) of petrocan for 3 billion. It made 600,000,000 the year he sold it. He rasied the out of country limit on stocks from fairly high to requiring only 30% candain content then to zero when he was PM.  He robbed the UI fund and redefined what was unemployed. And despute harpers best effort he will never match Martins 100 Billion in 5 year corporate tax giveaway. For just these three things he was and is one of the worst PM/Finance ministers in our history.

Being a resident from his hometown I revile him even more for the hero worship of this small minded richy rich who is nothing left and wouldn't know balanced if it was on his nose.


Brachina
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thorin_bane wrote:

Paul Martin is the second worst PM in the last 10 years. He did so much damage that I can't understand anyone thinking him anything but god awful. Firstly he sold off the remaining portion(25%) of petrocan for 3 billion. It made 600,000,000 the year he sold it. He rasied the out of country limit on stocks from fairly high to requiring only 30% candain content then to zero when he was PM.  He robbed the UI fund and redefined what was unemployed. And despute harpers best effort he will never match Martins 100 Billion in 5 year corporate tax giveaway. For just these three things he was and is one of the worst PM/Finance ministers in our history.

Being a resident from his hometown I revile him even more for the hero worship of this small minded richy rich who is nothing left and wouldn't know balanced if it was on his nose.

When it comes to regressive politics Paul Martin is Harper's idealogical equal, he's why Tories laugh when the Liberals attack Harper on Healthcare. Oh and you forgot Afganistan, that boondoogle was Paul Martin's. I find it funny when ever the sinking ship 3 tries critize or "advise" the NDP. Martin, Dion, and Micheal sunk the so called "natural governing party", why does anyone care what ss3 has to say.

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Vansterdam Kid wrote:

Considering how Martin is a huge cause of the Liberal Party's current state of irrelevance I think we should play "it's opposite day" whenever he speaks. Although I guess we NDP'ers could thank him for helping to make the NDP's (partial*) breakthorugh possible. The guy constantly undermined Chretien for pure personal gain (i.e. he wanted to become Prime Minister sooner rather than later), he wrote the budgets that eviscerated the social safety net thus making Harper look like an economic moderate, he managed to take his party from about 50% in the polls to 30% and his alleged economic genius involved downloading costs to other governments and relying purely on a low dollar and a debt bubble. Yeah, I'm worried about his astute analysis. ;)

*Of course it isn't complete until the Cons are beaten too.

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