'Tip of the Hat' to Wilson-Raybould, Philpott, Caesar-Chavannes & others who follow their principled political direction

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'Tip of the Hat' to Wilson-Raybould, Philpott, Caesar-Chavannes & others who follow their principled political direction

 

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It grieves me to resign from a portfolio where I was at work to deliver an important mandate. I must abide by my core values, my ethical responsibilities, constitutional obligations. There can be a cost to acting on one’s principles, but there is a bigger cost to abandoning them.

12:02 PM - 4 Mar 2019

 

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To the incomparable , truly the ...For almost 4 years our country has witnessed your constant & unassailable commitment to always doing what is right & best for Cdns. You are a leader of vision & strength & I look forward to continuing to work alongside you. ❤️U.

1:48 PM - 4 Mar 2019

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On Jody Wilson-Raybould issue, Justin Trudeau just proved the existence of white privilege

Amid all the deafening talk over the last three years on diversity, inclusion, tolerance and peaceful co-existence, a (white, male) prime minister was reportedly more concerned about his riding than about the rule of law.

Wilson-Raybould was not the only woman in cabinet. Yet few of her female cabinet colleagues defended her against ruthless character assassination. Most clearly chose a side: the prime minister’s.

https://lfpress.com/opinion/columnists/khan-on-jody-wilson-raybould-issu...

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Jane Philpott’s vote of no confidence in Trudeau

Politics Insider for March 5: Philpott follows Wilson-Raybould out the cabinet door, Trudeau’s full ‘phoniness’ on display and Doug Ford’s banana republic

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/jane-philpotts-vote-of-no-confid...

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On Jody Wilson-Raybould issue, Justin Trudeau just proved the existence of white privilege

Amid all the deafening talk over the last three years on diversity, inclusion, tolerance and peaceful co-existence, a (white, male) prime minister was reportedly more concerned about his riding than about the rule of law.

Wilson-Raybould was not the only woman in cabinet. Yet few of her female cabinet colleagues defended her against ruthless character assassination. Most clearly chose a side: the prime minister’s.

https://lfpress.com/opinion/columnists/khan-on-jody-wilson-raybould-issu...

Bunch of garbage. Her treatment had nothing to do with JWR's colour or her sex. A man would have been treated exactly the same way.

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Trudeau’s resignation is the Liberal’s only hope

And that won’t be enough unless Trudeau is replaced by Wilson-Raybould or Philpott

 

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2019/03/05/Trudeau-Resignation-Only-Hope/

 

 

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PET said 5o feet away from the House of Conmons MPs are nobodiesl

Some people unfortunately a very small minority are prepared to put principles ahead of personal careers

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2019/03/04/does-jody-wilson-raybould-have-a-future-in-trudeaus-party.html

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voice of the damned

Bob Hepburn in the Star....

Why Jody Wilson-Raybould is no hero

Number 7 is a real doozie...

Seventh, her actions have surely made it harder for the Liberals to win the Oct. 21 federal election. A Liberal defeat would mean First Nations communities, which Wilson-Raybould has fought for throughout her legal and political careers, may ultimately suffer under a Conservative government. Trudeau placed First Nations issues at the top of his personal agenda. Does anyone believe Tory leader Andrew Scheer would do so, too?

TL/DR: Surely you don't want Jones back, do you?

https://tinyurl.com/y635ujvj

 

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That argument is lost. JWR made a very nice living toiling and moiling for Canada not Indigenous sovereignty, no matter what you may have been told. Why do you think she was chosen to be AG Canada?  And in answer to the final question - yes. All Canadian leaders now routinely promise to de-colonize and then use this to advance further extinguishment and termination initiatives. Among very politically saavy Indigenous women friends of mine, Trudeau has long been known as 'handsome Harper', and JWR 'a sellout.' 

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If Wilson-Raybould’s actions prevent SNC from getting away with criminal behaviour without being prosecuted and this results in the Trudeau Liberals losing power she definitely would be a hero in my books

greatwhite

Trudeau championed women in his election bid and in his first term, but when they proved to be principled in their service to the people of this country he showed that it was all talk and no action. Now we see that three of his strongest members believed in service to people first and not to sleazy political moves he crapped out on the most principled of them and found out that others do not like his behaviour.

The Liberal leadership is not nearly as concerned about SNC-Lavalin jobs as it is about electing Liberals in Quebec in the coming federal election so they are wanting to save a criminal organization for its own actions.

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Now the truth is starting to come out about Trudeau

and it ain’t pretty

Today was just another one of his little performances and it was/is 100% Liberal spin. Notice the references too: I’m going North to apologize later on today to Inuits, and tomorrow I’ll be in TO celebrating International Woman’s Day

Nothing whatsoever has changed, Trudeau is lying through his teeth, today's whole exercise was/is just Liberal spin, otherwise the PMO’s Justice Committee would already have offered the former justice minister an opportunity to return 

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/zma8dx/liberal-mp-celina-caesar-chavannes-claps-back-at-justin-trudeau-over-his-non-apology

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NorthReport wrote:

Now the truth is starting to come out about Trudeau

and it ain’t pretty

Today was just another one of his little performances Notice the references I’m going North to apologize later on today to Inuits and tomorrow I’ll be in TO celebrating International Woman’s Day

Nothing whatsoever has changed and Trudeau is lying through his teeth otherwise the PMO’s Justice Committee would allow the former justice minister an opportunity to return 

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/zma8dx/liberal-mp-celina-caesar-chavannes-claps-back-at-justin-trudeau-over-his-non-apology

 

Great post. Trudeau is really showing his colours.  Did anyone not expect a fresh round of apologies? 

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What in the world has Trudeau done or said to Celina that has upset her to such an extent?

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Emergency meeting called aa opposition seeks additional testimony from Wilson-Raybould

https://globalnews.ca/news/5032162/opposition-jody-wilson-raybould/

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Canadians read this and weep

This is absolutely sickening. 

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/03/08/analysis/hidden-key-snc-lavalin-scandal

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Devastating! This is very sad indeed.

Welcome Canada to the real Justin Trudeau when the cameras are turned off

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-liberal-mp-celina-caesar-chavannes-says-she-was-met-with-hostility/

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Does she need to.  Couldn't she just find a friendly reporter.

Sean in Ottawa

Not every woman is a feminist but the chances are better that if you elect a woman who identifies as a feminist, you will get what you are voting for. Identifying as a feminist for the purpose of political marketing in some ways is comparable to identifying as left when you intend to govern from the right. It is really an extension of Liberal tradition. Sadly for some of these women it looks like they took Trudeau at his word (the Liberals could choose to bring one of these women to leadership however)..

It is not safe to assume that men in the NDP will not turn out the same as I do not think this is entirely a left-right-centre issue.

As truly progressive countries have shown true equity and gender balance in government cannot be replaced with sunny ways.

Rather than selecting just on the basis of parties, there is a strong argument here to consider voting in part on gender to get the balance and equity into the political culture. I think that Trudeau might even believe part of what he is saying suggesting that much of the problem is the culture of politics that would have to be broken down through voting to really equalize gender at the highest level.

I may get slammed for saying so but regardless of what else is said about Trudeau he did bring more women into his party than were there before. Now he should step aside and let them lead. That would make him more of a feminist PM than any lecture he could offer. True leadership on this will be in his passing the baton on to a real feminist leader when it is time to do so. It is now time.

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Trudeau is a feminist only to market himself as one. He wants to create a legacy for himself and he wants people to remember him as someone who stood out for something new. He wanted to be the first in some tangible category. This wanting a legacy does not necessarily make him a feminist. He brought in 50% female cabinet ministers because it is something that he can do to externally show that he is different but there is more to being a feminist than simple optics.

 

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I agree Sean that if Trudeau hands over the reins the only way to still run as a "feminist" party would be for a woman leader to follow him.  I fear that the woman leader will be Freeland and frankly she scares me as much as any Conservative politician, no matter what her gender is.

The problem with most types of affirmative action ideas they require larger ridings to allow for dual memberships. As well in this day and age the idea of two options in the gender identification column seems to be a non-starter given the inevitable Charter challenge. In Burnaby's by-election the woman candidate was a right wing Christian bigot with her own radio show.  Gender clearly was not enough to make anyone progressive want to vote for her.

The Trudeau Liberals seem to have done what the Quebec wing of the NDP did under Jack and Tom. They purposely recruited high profile activists from various communities. Then once elected those people discovered that someone, in the Leaders Office or PMO as the case may be, had the authority to muzzle them for the "good of the party".

 

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Misfit wrote:

Trudeau is a feminist only to market himself as one. He wants to create a legacy for himself and he wants people to remember him as someone who stood out for something new. He wanted to be the first in some tangible category. This wanting a legacy does not necessarily make him a feminist. He brought in 50% female cabinet ministers because it is something that he can do to externally show that he is different but there is more to being a feminist than simple optics.

I do not ever trust male politicians who self promote as feminists. I like to hear them support feminist ideals and to be surrounded and supported by community groups with a strong feminist presence.  When I heard Justin calling himself a feminist I cringed because I have never thought anything coming out of his mouth was sincere. I have a good ear for the sweet talking abuser thanks to a pedophile Catholic priest. Trudeau reminded me of Ghomeshi. From the first time I heard him doing "feminist"interviews he made my skin crawl.

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Good insights and food for thought from Sean, Misfit, and kropotkin. 

Sean in Ottawa

kropotkin1951 wrote:

I agree Sean that if Trudeau hands over the reins the only way to still run as a "feminist" party would be for a woman leader to follow him.  I fear that the woman leader will be Freeland and frankly she scares me as much as any Conservative politician, no matter what her gender is.

The problem with most types of affirmative action ideas they require larger ridings to allow for dual memberships. As well in this day and age the idea of two options in the gender identification column seems to be a non-starter given the inevitable Charter challenge. In Burnaby's by-election the woman candidate was a right wing Christian bigot with her own radio show.  Gender clearly was not enough to make anyone progressive want to vote for her.

The Trudeau Liberals seem to have done what the Quebec wing of the NDP did under Jack and Tom. They purposely recruited high profile activists from various communities. Then once elected those people discovered that someone, in the Leaders Office or PMO as the case may be, had the authority to muzzle them for the "good of the party".

 

I am sorry this sounded like advocacy for organized affirmative action by the party. I meant it to be about individuals considering gender more in voting to make change.

I agree that there are female canididates to avoid, certainly. However, there are times people could cross party lines and support women to achieve this without compromising much. Women like the three women in the eye of the storm Caesar Chavannes, Wilson-Raybold, Philpott might be better to vote for than a man of a preferred party. When it comes to nominations, a preference for women does not mean either taking a bad candidate or never allowing some males -but simply to apply this consideration as a significant value in moving the country to where we need it to go.

Obviously not a hard and fast rule but more important than party. If you have a good progressive female candidate, give serious consideration and do not rule her out if she is say a Green or a Liberal and you are NDP for example. For the NDP, where possible recruit and nominate more women in winnable ridings. I know the NDP does care about this and is trying but this comes down to party members in nominations and voters once all nominations are in.

This does not just apply to women - any candidate that is not an over-represented white male can get a look and disqualified if need be but at least a look even across party lines.

I doubt that your position and mine is that far apart on this from what I have read from you in the past...

Martin N.

I am glad that principled politicians of any gender have the courage to challenge the insidious hold special interests have on the highest level of government. If anything, this scandal, not scandal, nothin to see here folks, constitutional crisis etc has exposed the 'old boys club' for what they are. And, exposed the PM for the venal charlatan he is.

I am also very interested in having a female PM because females are apparently more immune to the siren song of corruption as a tool of career advancement, that is as in being a tool of corrupt practices in order to advance one's career.

Are females more principled than males or is it some sort of gender dichotomy that makes males more succeptable to a smarmy herding into criminality? I do not note any males standing up for the ex-ministers.

Are these thoughts sexist?

Paladin1

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Bunch of garbage. Her treatment had nothing to do with JWR's colour or her sex. A man would have been treated exactly the same way.

 

Naw. Trudeau really sames to dislike women thinking for themselves.

I bet he would have been less agressive with a man. He's a bully.

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Not so sure about that Paladin1?

I believe that he appointed JWR for the sole reason she is an Indigenous People’s woman, her background gave her an advantage in handling the portfolio. But I’m sure there was lots of lawyers elected MPs in 2015. 

I would imagine that if any mp/cabinet minister that doesn’t tow the pm’s line is going to get chopped