Tories proroguing AGAIN to push through legislation and limit debate
October 26, 2011 - 2:01pm
Conservative sources say once controversial legislation is passed, the government will prorogue Parliament and introduce a new Throne Speech and budget when the House resumes business in 2012.
A Conservative told The Hill Times debate limits are likely to be imposed on the gun registry legislation. NDP MP Yvon Godin (Acadie-Bathhurst, N.B.) said the opposition also expects that to happen.
“They’ve been doing it with everything else. They don’t want to have a debate going on, a good debate,” said Mr. Godin. “It’s a new government and I think people have the right to debate it. They’ve been elected to come here and debate bills, not just shoved down the throat by the government. That’s why Parliament exists.”
Not surprising, but scary as hell. What more evidence do we need that with a Harper majority we are saying goodbye to the last vestiges of parliamentary democracy.
This makes my suspicion that the Cons could care less about being re-elected seem rather accurate.
They're going to ram through their agenda and with a majority in the Senate and SCC,these bills will be almost impossible to undo.
Mission accomplished.
What more evidence do we need that with a Harper majority we are saying goodbye to the last vestiges of parliamentary democracy.
Because as we all know, it's better to have a debate before the government does what it's going to do anyway. It gives the opizishin something to do.
I may have to dust off one of my old blogs - Prorogued - which I started after the 2008 prorogation.
I get the feeling that for the Harperites, proroguing is like smoking crack - after the first time it feels so damned good you just can't stop.
Not surprising, but scary as hell. What more evidence do we need that with a Harper majority we are saying goodbye to the last vestiges of parliamentary democracy.
Though really, they established that before they even got that majority, in a far more spectacular fashion. After all, now they have the votes from democratically-elected members. Last year they did not, but they still did this:
http://www.thestar.com/news/sciencetech/environment/article/892053
Ignoring parliament's decision to ask for Omay Khadr's return was no different. But again, not nearly so spectacular.
No one can say he or she did not know this was coming.
No one can say he or she did not know this was coming.
True enough, but the idea of it somehow pales beside the reality.
This makes my suspicion that the Cons could care less about being re-elected seem rather accurate.
They're going to ram through their agenda and with a majority in the Senate and SCC,these bills will be almost impossible to undo.
Mission accomplished.
We all better get used to it – this is what a Conservative Majority is like. Harper didn't have a Majority or the power to do this until May when the "orange crush" crushed the Liberals instead of the Conservatives and allowed Harper to get the Majority.
It's too bad the way it worked out, but it can't be undone until the next election.
When we can save Canada by voting for the next Count Iggy and crew! :)
This makes my suspicion that the Cons could care less about being re-elected seem rather accurate.
They're going to ram through their agenda and with a majority in the Senate and SCC,these bills will be almost impossible to undo.
Mission accomplished.
We all better get used to it – this is what a Conservative Majority is like. Harper didn't have a Majority or the power to do this until May when the "orange crush" crushed the Liberals instead of the Conservatives and allowed Harper to get the Majority.
It's too bad the way it worked out, but it can't be undone until the next election.
The Liberals crushed themselves - that's what happens when you're in power long enough to believe that you can coast on your sense of entitlement. And besides, the Liberals are the same as the Tories, with a very superficial progressive veneer.
Get used to it? Hell no. That would be giving up.
actually they do not need to prorogue at all. the can simply recess -- return for a budget in spring. that budget will be like a new throne speech outlining new directives
they have a majority no need to prorogue.
They have to prorogue. Steve can't risk his idiots being seen or heard attempting to debate the opposition NDP. These Bay Street marionettes just do what they are instructed to by the banks, right wing think tanks, Canadian CEOs, foreign-based oil companies, and Warshington. Democratic debate in general is not in this 24 percent dictatorship's interests at all. Why should they volunteer to testify against themselves if they don't have to? They want to avoid confrontations with the NDP as much as possible.
Steve and his stooges will be buying PFK takeaway a lot from now to 2015. Democratic debate? With the NDP? That's too much like work. Steve and his Harpers likely never carried a brown paper bag or lunchpail to work in all their pampered lives. Steve and his slackers don't want to start working today, tomorrow, or anytime soon.
actually they do not need to prorogue at all. the can simply recess -- return for a budget in spring. that budget will be like a new throne speech outlining new directives
they have a majority no need to prorogue.
They don't have to prorogue to recess parliament, they need to prorogue in order to limit debate on the legislation.
The 1% are planning a DEPRESSION folks. It is obvious. They are holding us all hostage until the government puppets hand over ALL our tax money, our childrens tax money and our grandchildrens tax money. A DEPRESSION will kill unions, wipe away middle class wealth and then they have us. People will work for $1 an hour when their kids are hungry. OCCUPY and demand the politicians listen to us not the 1%. Let the banks fail!!! Let countries Fail!!! let the 1% fail!!! Power to the People...
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