What will it take for our environmental slacker federal government to ban the combustion engine in Canada

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NorthReport
What will it take for our environmental slacker federal government to ban the combustion engine in Canada

Canada has not meet one of its climate change targets since the federales starting playing this environmental game

https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/10/12/paris-combustion-engine-ban

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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French health authorities estimate that air pollution causes more early deaths than anything except alcohol and tobacco.

Which, of course, they already banned.  No more Gauloise-smoking, wine drinking French stereotypes!  The French aren't going to just ban the THIRD worst thing.

NorthReport

Brain dead Ontario!

But consumers if you believe in it suck it up and next time vote NDP

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4747325

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

I seem to recall reading of a few countries banning the internal combustion engine several political mandates in the future.

Perhaps Canada could be so brave, and commit to no more gas-burning vehicles by 2050 or whatever.  Why can't our cowardly politicos write a cheque that their grandchildren will have to cash?

Meanwhile, my kid plays hockey, OKAY?  And I can't afford to buy my bottled water anywhere other than CostClub!   I don't own my SUV as a penis substitute, I own it because I would literally die without it.  Did I mention my kid is a goalie??  You can't fit that gear in a SmartCar!

Only God can judge me.

JKR

Luckily for Parisians a soccer ball can fit comfortably in a SmartCar.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Only God can judge me.

True, but all of us can judge the quality of your comments.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

People don't judge the "quality" of a comment.  They just decide whether they agree.  If they do, it's an excellent comment, and if they don't, it's an inane comment.

My point -- and I've said this lots and lots -- is that it's super if the public finally recognizes the need to do something about global warming and environmental destruction, but orders of magnitude less so if they keep driving 10 miles to PriceClub to save $1 on a case of bottled water.

It's also super if some European lawmakers declare that internal combustion engines will be fully replaced by zero-fossil alternatives at some date in the future when they'll all be dead anyway (and, if the movies are correct, we'll all be piloting sky-cars, or teleporting).  Nothing says "courage" like a 60 year old lawmaker voting for a law that kicks in 40 years from now.

That said, if (say) France or Germany or heck, India or China, were to vote to take IC vehicles off the road by 2020, that would be worthy of notice. 

WWWTT

Nanning capital city of Guangxi China banned the gas motorcycle last decade! They’re doing fine. 

But this is a complicated issue, many enthusiasts who ride for the thrill. Here’s a link

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/07/07/china-on-road-motorcycle-bans-create-off-road-passions/

WWWTT

Only God can judge me.

i think he/she is at the strip club getting table dances. Unless you’re wearing a g string and know how to work a pole, forget it! God has no time for you! 

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Nanning capital city of Guangxi China banned the gas motorcycle last decade! They’re doing fine.

Super. Here's five people on one motorbike in Guangxi.

Are you sure of this ban?

Are you sure enough to post a link about this ban?  I wasn't able to google anything about any such ban, but if you have a link you could share with us I'd like to see it.

 

Paladin1

 

Say no to gas

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Well, that second one is pretty clearly a Photoshop job.

But the point stands.  Fossil fuel doesn't become green just because it's burned to make electricity.

WWWTT

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Nanning capital city of Guangxi China banned the gas motorcycle last decade! They’re doing fine.

Super. Here's five people on one motorbike in Guangxi.

Are you sure of this ban?

Are you sure enough to post a link about this ban?  I wasn't able to google anything about any such ban, but if you have a link you could share with us I'd like to see it.

 

i screwed up this comment here so here’s the links first

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E5RVrGQGoIQ

http://www.china.org.cn/english/25116.htm

i don’t believe Guangxi or any other provinces in China banned the motorcycle? Just the cities. However Shanghai and Beijing are somewhat like provincial regions in their own right so let’s just count them as cities for this

also during my search I found there is restrictions on e bikes now in Chinese cities

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i don’t believe Guangxi or any other provinces in China banned the motorcycle? Just the cities. However Shanghai and Beijing are somewhat like provincial regions in their own right so let’s just count them as cities for this

I'm pretty sure they are cities.  But nevermind the details and thanks for those links.

But then OK, what about cars?

WWWTT

Not sure about any news of bans on gas diesel cars? Nothing pops to mind. However last time I was in ShenZhen I did ride in a completely electric taxi cab. So they are getting more common in China. 

In going to Beijing for several days on labour day then down to Nanning for the duration. I’ll let you know what I see when I get back. 

I should also point out that Hong Kong Macao and No where on Taiwan has the motorcycle been banned

Aristotleded24

With the idea of banning the ICE and some politicians promising not to have gasoline powered cars beyond a certain date, it is time for a reality check on the promise of electric cars. Think of the issues of private autmobile ownership. They burn greenhouse gases. They need a great deal of space on roads to accomodate them, and in parking lots. Building both often involves the destruction of natural habitats. Travelling by car also has the social impact of isolating people from one another and the surrounding world. Switching to electric only solves one of those problems. It also creates more. The demand on the power grid will only go up in order to power these cars. Where is this electricity going to come from? Sure you can have more renewable electricity, but the best way to save energy is through conservation. Also, what elements are needed to power the car battery? Where do they come from? What is going to happen to these batteries at the end of their life cycle? How will they be disposed of?

If the idea is that electric cars are one piece that helps overall, that's one thing. They are not a silver bullet that is going to solve our problems, and we need to not fall for propaganda that painst them that way.

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"Dear Diary.  It's Day 114 since I made my perfectly reasonable demand that the government unilaterally ban ICEs and bring the nation to a total halt, and again I greet this day with the disappointment borne of realizing that they have taken no concrete steps to grant my demand.  Clearly a power greater and more sinister than those devils that we know must be pulling the strings, otherwise I remain convinced that our elected officials would see the merits in my demand and I would be scripting this latest entry from atop my horse, or behind the wheel of my government-subsidized Prius.  I do not know how much longer I can go on hoping against hope and praying for courage for others, only to wake up each morn greeted by the sight and sound of automobiles and buses and trains.  The days grow shorter and darker in my heart, Dear Diary, and should this be my last entry, know that I died fighting the good fight, making the good demands, not letting necessity or reality sway me from my beliefs..."