Levant bellows:Canadian Jews started Canadian Nazi Party

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Jaku
Levant bellows:Canadian Jews started Canadian Nazi Party

There is quite a lot of hot air emenating from the knuckle-dragging right led by Ezra (he makes it up) Levant. Its Levant's contention that back in 1966 Jewish Holocaust survivors, anti-Facists, left-wing Jewish students, "Commies" and the Canadian Jewish Congress, bankrolled, propped up and supported William John Beattie's, Canadian Nazi Party. You can read much of his diatribe here and follow whatever links you want.

http://ezralevant.com/2009/05/beware-the-nazi-menace-better.html

 

It seems Ezra's ahistorical, revisionist history got the best of at least one Jewish historian, Dr. Ellen Scheinberg, who just happens to be the Director of the Ontario Jewish Archives. Here is her rebuttal of Ezra's nonsense.

 

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/helped+stop+Canadian+Nazis/1560300/story.html

 

Usually I would totally ignore this goof but seeing he has been on the Canadian best-seller list now for weeks. Its more difficult to brush him off.

 

The thing of it is that if you follow Ezra through to his logical conclusion his theory sounds something like this:

 

In 1966 'The Jews" in the guise of the groups above, knew full well that John Beattie was a nobody, a kook who should not be taken at all seriously. However these "Jews" made up of commies and lefties so badly wanted to have anti-hate laws that they all conspired to fund Beattie and his small neo-Nazi  group so as to cause fear and havoc just to force government to get these laws passed. It is but another take on the Jewish conspiracy theory.

The book on this time period was written by Franklin Bialystok and thanks to Google you can if you wish read it on line. It can be found here http://books.google.com/books?id=TEOzC2c9gmYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=delayed+impact#PPA121,M1

 I have little doubt that most here can and will see through Ezra Levant. I wonder though what we do with someone who so bastardizes history, and by doing so tries to destroy reputations of folks long dead?

Coyote

Good God. It reads like a modern-day Protocols. What a disgusting bit of fiction. 

remind remind's picture

How do you destroy the reputation of folks long dead?

 

 

Jaku

Peoples legacies live with them. In the end that is all you really have.

remind remind's picture

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Michelle

remind: Laugh my ass off off off off off off off?  :D  Hee.

Anyhow, this is pretty wild, Jaku.  Thanks for giving me my dose of "weird stuff for the day".

remind remind's picture

Michelle, I get to do lmaoooooooo, because in essence I live in a canyon, where echos abound. ;)

Michelle

Hee!  Okay, when I see you write that from now on, I just know I'm going to be hearing it like a faraway echo:

Laugh my ass off...off...off...off

remind remind's picture

There is a related thread to this topic, where some discussion of Levant's claims and reponses to his allegations were made, over here.

The thread has points about Levant's claims, and holes in the historian's rebuttal.

 

remind remind's picture

I did not read the links in this thread so where did you find that out at skinnydipper?

thanks

i came to this thread having seen the title, and it struck me that i didn't know a Canadian Nazi Party had existed.

maybe this was another bad babble joke?  a nonexistent bus ad?

anywy, um...

if such was ever the case it's as bad as a Stalinist or Leninist party.

i wish i had more time to go over more carefully the stuff on babble.  don't even check the links properly...

 

thanks

more along the lines of calls to 911, the wish foundation, window cleaners, and barry's voice. 

jokes are usually at someone's expense.

they can be funny when the target has equal power. 

then there's people like me who are easy to 'get'.

and then it gets to the point where jokers just make themselves look and sound silly. 

whatever.

 

 

remind remind's picture

Then i still do not get it!

Skinny Dipper

I'm going to delete a couple of my own comments because they are in bad taste.

Skinny Dipper

Deleted.

Skinny Dipper

Deleted.

Caissa

Are you a troll, thanks?

remind remind's picture

Jaku wrote:
Peoples legacies live with them. In the end that is all you really have.

Could you tell me how you cope with cognative dissonance created by this action against ALIVE Jewish people's legacies?

Quote:
There has been a less political movement within the ranks of B’nai Brith, pitting some of its rank-and-file members against Frank Dimant and his board. The board has now expelled eight dissidents who prefer to style themselves “whistle-blowers.” Their ranks include at least three former national presidents of the organization, Harvey Crestohl of Montreal, Morley Wolf of Toronto and one of the most honoured volunteers in the history of BBC, Lou Ronson, who is now 93 years old. Lou is a thoughtful, and distinguished individual who joined BBC back in 1939, was a Vice-Chair of the Ontario Human Rights Commission and has undertaken countless community responsibilities. Dimant’s paranoia seems unlimited. Can one imagine purge trials in any other Canadian volunteer association—shades of Joseph Stalin! Almost all of the objects of the purge have stronger and longer associations with B’nai Brith than Dimant and his chosen board. Certainly Dimant & Co. might have taken another course— that of tolerating internal dissent as long as the discourse remained civil and not libelous—but toleration is not in their vocabulary.

http://www.vcn.bc.ca/outlook/current_issue/Jul-Aug%2008/Bnai%20Brith.pdf

 

Unionist

Excellent find, thank you remind.

Dimant and his gang are a blight on Canadian society. No Jew I know takes them seriously - but then, I don't move in the circles of the high and mighty, and I know the Harpers and Kenneys of this world are closely allied and try to give them credibility. Everyone - and Jews in particular - has a duty to expose them for what they are and stop them using our name in vain.

 

remind remind's picture

Your welcome unionist, I was absolutely astounded when I read that, and thought about it in conjunction with what Jaku stated in this thread.

Winnifred

I don't knoow what this thread is about now so I will give my take.

On Levant, I read the previous thread, I simply can't see the "holes" you mention Remind. It is just inconceivable that CJC would perpetrate such a conspiracy (funding the Canadian Nazi Party to scarte society into passing anti-hate laws) as Levant insinuates, He is as many people have said about him on many things, "making it up".

 

remind remind's picture

Perhaps to you, but I call paying someone a wage to infiltrate an organization, and build it up, funding and building said organization.

Jaku

Remind, I read the 1966 MacLeans article by the PI hired by CJC to infiltrate the Canadian nazi Party. He claims he was paid $200, hardly the thousands Levant suggests (Winnifred is right he makes it up....and what is worse you believe this hard rightwing blowhard) the PI also concludes that his work destroyed the Canadian Nazi Party and any reading of the history of the time says exactly the same thing.

 

Cueball Cueball's picture

This stuff is all pretty murky. I would not come to any hard and fast conclusions about it. For one thing, many co-conspirators operate with different motives. The CJC for example might have been duped into believing the party was more serious than it was by their own operatives, or misled in their view as how to best handle the situtation.

Personally I object to the construction of the thread title: "Canadian Jews started Canadian Nazi Party", it could be constured to mean Canadian Jews in total, not just "some" Canadian Jews. When talking about these things it is probably best to stick to the verifiable actions and statements of individuals, not generalized religious meta-constructs like "Jews".

As for the conspiracy, like all conspiracies, one simply has to follow the money.

remind remind's picture

Funny 200 bucks in 66 was a lot of money. What was min wage a buck?

Oh and still waitinf for you to explain your cognative dissonance jaku?

Unionist

It would be worth $1,309.20 today. [url=Source.[/url]">http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/inflation_calc.html][=green]Sou...

But this discussion can't proceed in any useful direction.

 

Jaku

Unionist , this PI worked on this file for over 8 months. Even in 1966 dollars this was hardly a fortune!

Unionist

I know, Jaku. I know the history. But please stop bugging remind.

remind remind's picture

So we are expected to believe he worked for 8 months for 1300 bucks? LMAO!

And aren't you cute unionist! :D

Still waiting jaku.

Unionist

I want it recorded that I tried.

Jaku

Stop bugging Remind? Funny. And Remind believe what you want its what this PI wrote not me. And why would you believe a guy like Levant over the head of the Ontario Jewish Archives? Levant has been known, as many have said, to "make things up". The head of the archives has no such record, figure it out.

remind remind's picture

Still waiting jaku!