Federal election thread -- August 4, 2015

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..i don't see any evidence that we have any option in the matter. harper just appointed a pipeline consultant to the neb. canada is not being given an option. the die is cast. the global resource extraction group want it the way they want. if they don't get it that way they will just apply more pressure. the ndp will not control global forces. i've been listening to see if they condem the appointment but so far i haven't heard. it didn't come up in debate. and there's this:  Canada’s premiers agreed to a master energy and climate change plan July 17. It’s specific on fast-tracking pipelines, but “aspirational” on climate action.

eta: no option other than resistance.

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epaulo13 wrote:

..i don't see any evidence that we have any option in the matter. harper just appointed a pipeline consultant to the neb. canada is not being given an option. the die is cast. the global resource extraction group want it the way they want. if they don't get it that way they will just apply more pressure. the ndp will not control global forces. i've been listening to see if they condem the appointment but so far i haven't heard. it didn't come up in debate. and there's this:  Canada’s premiers agreed to a master energy and climate change plan July 17. It’s specific on fast-tracking pipelines, but “aspirational” on climate action.

eta: no option other than resistance.

..important video from a previous post.

Grand Chief warns of confrontation between RCMP and Unist'ot'en

quizzical

uh....oil tankers  chugging up the coast  woud have more ghgs than a pipeline.

i don't think Ms Notley is planning on shipping bitumen out of province by pipeline east.

if i'm right and she plans on building a refinery, and then pipeline it out, are you saying you know Quebeckers would rather  have shipped, or rail transported,  and not piped in?

Rokossovsky

Unionist wrote:

quizzical wrote:

thanks....paraphrased what i would've responded but on it.

I see. What about GHG emissions? Does that factor into "environmentally friendly"? Or just spills?

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i would also say we wouldn't have to  "buy" our petroleum from Venezuala. it could be province to province trade agreements. oil we buy and ship in is paid for in US dollars. why make the US rich, or actually pay off their debt, when we can keep  the money here with cross Canada trade?

Yes of course, the carbon footprint of refined bitumen is so much larger that refined crude.

 

Jacob Two-Two

Pondering wrote:

Brachina wrote:

 Why don't the protesters bother Trudeau or Harper who also support the pipeline.

Because you don't fault a lion for roaring.  People aren't yet adjusted to the idea that they should expect no more from the NDP than they get from the Liberals.

You can both expect and get more from the NDP. Even on issues like this where the NDP is only the thinnest sliver ahead of the Liberals, it is still, as always, ahead. No matter what the file is, the Liberals are always the poorer choice. That's clearly true on things like inequality and the economy, and barely true on things like energy and foreign policy. But it is always true.

Sorry, except for marijuana, but as I've said before, there is no way they'll follow though on that.

Unionist

Unionist wrote:

quizzical wrote:

thanks....paraphrased what i would've responded but on it.

I see. What about GHG emissions? Does that factor into "environmentally friendly"? Or just spills?

So quizzical, just to be very specific, I'm talking about the extraction process - which is what Linda McQuaig was talking about when she warned about the impact on climate change (before she was required to "clarify" her comments). Transporting the stuff is an additional danger of course, whether by water, rail, or pipeline.

Pembina Institute wrote:
Average greenhouse gas emissions for oilsands extraction and upgrading are estimated to be 3.2 to 4.5 times as intensive per barrel as for conventional crude oil produced in Canada or the United States.

 

 

 

 

mark_alfred

The Globe and Mail is making a direct appeal to "long-time Ontario NDP activists" to knife Mulcair as they did Horwath.  We'll see if they answer the Globe and Mail's beck and call.

nicky

We all should remember that only 4 of the infamous "Group of 34" who knifed Andrea Horwath were actually members of the NDP.

This initiative was very likely inspired by Liberal sympathizers. I suspect the mumblings about Tom come from a similar source. It would be interesting to figure out who the Energy East protestors are.

We a should also remember that although Kathleen Wynne postured as being to the left of Andrea, once she got her majority she has governed as a conservative - austerity and selling Hydro and electoral dirty tricks.

josh

mark_alfred wrote:

The Globe and Mail is making a direct appeal to "long-time Ontario NDP activists" to knife Mulcair as they did Horwath.  We'll see if they answer the Globe and Mail's beck and call.

Interesting that you don't challenge the substance of the column.

Unionist

nicky wrote:
It would be interesting to figure out who the Energy East protestors are.

Maybe CSIS could help. They've been keeping track of radical environmental types.

Also, here's a [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/canadian-politics/west-east-pipeline]babble thread[/url] that was opened in November 2012 to praise Mulcair's support for Energy East:

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It looks like Mulcair's support for an east west pipeline is bearing fruit, a win for Mulcair and s defeat for Harper's vision to export jobs out of Canada.

If you sift through the posts, you can find lots of naysayers, reports of mass protests and demos, etc., obviously intended to knife Mulcair in the back.

Seek and ye shall find!

NDPP

epaulo13 wrote:

..important video from a previous post.

Grand Chief warns of confrontation between RCMP and Unist'ot'en

 And speaking of grand chiefs...

BC Heavy Oil Refinery Project Names Aboriginal Leaders as Advisors

http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/b-c-heavy-oil-refinery-pro...

"The company is expected to announce Wednesday that Shawn Atleo and Ovide Mercredi, former former national chiefs of the Assembly of First Nations, will join the Vancouver-based company..."

jerrym

The  Liberal internal dogfight in Vancouver over Justin's "open" nomination process continues to grow, directly impacting the ridings of Steveston-Richmond East, Vancouver East, Vancouver Kingsway, and Vancouver South, and threatening to affect Liberal chances elsewhere in Vancouver. Since virtually no one expects the Liberals to win any ridings outside Metro Vancouver in BC, this is a major problem for the federal Liberals in BC during this election and with one of its major target populations - Vancouver Chinese. 

Wendy Yuan claims she was denied the right to run for the nomination in Steveston-Richmond East without any explanation despite her having run for the party in 2008 and 2011 and despite having signed up 6,000 members for the party over the years. She also claims to have signed up 3,000 new members in the last two years alone in preparatlon for challenging for the nomination in this riding. 

Yuan also claims in sworn affidavits that former Liberal cabinet minister Raymond Chan blocked her candidacy and could have personally profited as Justin Trudeau's chief BC organizer in the local Chinese community.

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Wendy Yuan told a large crowd of supporters gathered at the Sheraton Vancouver Airport in Richmond that she was shocked on learning last Friday that the party would not be green-lighting her nomination for Steveston-Richmond East.

File

FileWendy Yuan, pictured with Justin Trudeau, before she was declared unsuitable.

Yuan, who has twice been green-lit by the party for election runs that ultimately proved unsuccessful, claimed this was because the process had been interfered with, an allegation she said was supported by a sworn affidavit that was sent to her by another party member.

“I have received a sworn affidavit from a party member which clearly spells out interference with the party green light process by one of our leader’s advisers, and his name his Raymond Chan,” Yuan told the sign-waving crowd. ...

Chan, who was first elected to Ottawa as the Richmond MP in 1993, served in cabinet under both Paul Martin and Jean Chrétien. He lost the 2008 election to the Conservative’s Alice Wong.

The affidavit, a copy of which was provided to The Province, details an alleged conversation between Chan and a Xigen (Howard) Xu on May 16 in a lounge on the second floor at the Terminal City Club. Xu alleges he met with Chan to discuss campaign issues.

“Raymond said to me: Howard, good news, soon I will have Wendy Yuan disqualified,” the affidavit reads. “I asked “How?” He replied: “I will make sure Wendy does not pass the green light.” He went on by saying “the Italian guy named Joe Preschisolido [sic] is going to be acclaimed.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/liberal-feud-...

Joe Peschisolido (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Peschisolido) has went from being a Liberal to a Reform to a Canadian Alliance to a Liberal member, and was elected as a Canadian Alliance MP. Such a "progressive" indicates the Liberals and Cons are not that far apart on the political spectrum.

On Tuesday, Yuan and her supporters protested outside Peschiolido's Liberal nomination meeting from which she was barred. 

http://www.straight.com/news/505486/wendy-yuan-supporters-plan-protest-o...

 

This has led to a large number of resignations within the Liberals in BC, including Mike Hillman.

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Mike Hillman has quit as membership chair for the Liberal Party of Canada in B.C. over the "unfathomable" decision to blockformer Liberal candidate Wendy Yuan from running for the Steveston–Richmond East nomination.

In a letter to LPCBC president Braeden Caley and dated today (August 11), Hillman states:

The decision by this Party to not allow a former candidate in 2 past elections stand before the membership of the Party in the riding of Steveston-Richmond East is, to me, unfathomable.

As Membership Chair for the LPC in BC, I view the decision as being contrary to the right of members in a specific riding to make their choice on the important decision of who should be their candidate. Members have a right to vote and that right must be respected and held high in our Party as a base democratic right of, and obligation we have, to all our members.

On top of this, the decision simply walks away from an individual who has worked tirelessly for this Party and brought thousands of members and dollars to our Party. I just cannot believe we can treat a member, or any member, with such total disregard.

http://www.straight.com/news/505771/liberal-party-executive-mike-hillman...

 

The executive of the Vancouver South Liberals have also resigned over alleged problems with Chan. Howare Xu, a Liberal campaign manager, claims in a sworn affidavit that two Liberal candidates, Edward Wong in Vancouver East and Steven Kou in Vancouver Kingsway, both told him that Raymond Chan was asking candidates for $10,000 each for a three minute speech by him.

 

jerrym

As mentioned in the last post, the BC Liberals are in deep turmoil over the Wendy Yuan situation. 

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The incident (denying Wendy Yuan the right to run for the nomination in Steveston-East Richmond) has resulted in the riding’s entire executive team resigning from the campaign.

Meanwhile, on Tuesday evening, it was expected that former Richmond MP and lawyer Joe Peschisolido — the sole nominee — would be appointed as the riding’s candidate for the upcoming federal election on Oct. 19.

Now former riding president Peter Xie said he was surprised not to be consulted and noted the late-notice appointment meeting at the Hamilton Community Centre during rush hour was prohibitive to members. ...

ChanFormer MP Raymond Chan is at the centre of internal Liberal Party of Canada infighting in Richmond

 

http://www.richmond-news.com/news/steveston-liberals-resign-over-nominat...

 

jerrym

As noted in post #162, the executive of the Vancouver South Liberals have also resigned over alleged problems with Chan. Howare Xu, a Liberal campaign manager, claims in a sworn affidavit that two Liberal candidates, Edward Wong in Vancouver East and Steven Kou in Vancouver Kingsway, both told him that Raymond Chan was asking candidates for $10,000 each for a three minute speech by him.

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Yuan noted the party had successfully vetted her twice before. Late Monday night she issued another statement:

"I fail to see how my application this time differs from that of the last two elections I stood for. . . .They are trying to pick faults, if any, in order to shut me down and cover-up for a more devious reason. That devious reason, many believe, has everything to do with the fact that I wrote to the Party officials and raised my concern about one of LPCBC's fundraising sources in the Chinese community," wrote Yuan.

Notably, in another affidavit, whistleblower Howard Xu claims Chan asked Vancouver-area candidates Edward Wong and Steven Kou for $10,000 donations in order to give speeches. "I will respect the person who did the affidavit," Yuan told media.

Chan was present at Richmond Centre candidate Lawrence Woo's inaugural media address in March. He could not be reached for comment via Woo's manager.

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rch/rnr/5169364181.html

Yuan denies that she misrepresented her resume to the Liberal riding association anc claims that this was just an excuse to bar her from running in the Steveston-East Richmond riding, even though she had signed up 3,000 of its 4,000 members because she had raised concerns about former Liberal cabinet minister Raymond Chan's fundraising process in which he had asked for $10,000 for himself for a three minute speech at Liberal riding meetings.

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A Liberal party source told The Canadian Press that Yuan's application was stopped partway through the vetting process after it became apparent she had allegedly misrepresented elements of her resume.

Yuan said she hoped the party wasn't trying to shift the focus away from the real reason for her disqualification. She said she brought up concerns with the party over what she called questionable fundraising techniques used by former Liberal MP Raymond Chan, which she believes may have played a role in her nomination upset.

Along with protest resignations by local riding executives, longtime Liberal party organizer Mike Hillman stepped down as membership chairman for B.C. over what he called an "unfathomable" move on the part of the party's green-light committee to oust Yuan.

Hillman has been involved with the Liberals since 1968 and has served in various leadership capacities, including two terms as the party's national vice-president for English. He was Yuan's campaign chairman.

Hillman said he can't understand how the party could treat someone with such disregard, especially after Yuan's work to register thousands of new party members.

"You don't keep somebody … on a string, working hard to build a team and build membership, when in the end you're going to walk away from them," he said in an interview on Wednesday. "That's not the right way to do it."

Hillman called Yuan "absolutely solid" and referred to her contributions to the party as "tremendous."

Yuan signed up close to 3,000 new members — a significant portion of the roughly 4,000 registered in the riding, said Hillman.

For her part, Yuan said she was "very disappointed" by the decision.

"The immediate thing that came to my head was the 3,000 members. I said, 'How am I going to tell them?'" she said. "They trusted the system and they had faith."

http://www.timescolonist.com/ousted-liberal-hopeful-denies-misrepresenti...

 

mark_alfred

josh wrote:
mark_alfred wrote:

The Globe and Mail is making a direct appeal to "long-time Ontario NDP activists" to knife Mulcair as they did Horwath.  We'll see if they answer the Globe and Mail's beck and call.

Interesting that you don't challenge the substance of the column.

The article had no substance.  This campaign centres on corporate tax increase and making polluters pay (presumably cap and trade), which parallels the last campaign.  Further, unlike the last campaign, this campaign also features the $15 a day child care pledge, which is fabulous.  This, IMO, is even better than what surrounded the last campaign.

josh

“How is New Brunswick going to be able to attract and retain top-level medical doctors when they’re going to be told, ‘Oh, by the way, our tax rate is now going to be close to 60 per cent?’”

Thank you, Mr. Harper. I mean, Mr. Mulcair.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

josh wrote:

“How is New Brunswick going to be able to attract and retain top-level medical doctors when they’re going to be told, ‘Oh, by the way, our tax rate is now going to be close to 60 per cent?’”

Thank you, Mr. Harper. I mean, Mr. Mulcair.

I don't like that comment either, but I also don't consider it a valid reason to publicly condemn the NDP, and suggest that people should vote Liberal instead.

terrytowel

NOW magazine has added their voice to the concern over NDP environmental policy

NDP Fizzles

Mulcair disappointed on a few key issues, like the proposed Energy East pipeline, which he said could be a "win-win-win." Many expect more from the man who used to be the Quebec's environment minister, a job title he reminded the audience of several times. Mulcair did talk up the polluter-pays principle along with the fact that he added the right to a clean environment to Quebec charter back in 06. But he's also making a big deal of coming across as oil-sands-friendly. As York U environmental studies Prof Mark Winfield says, "He may have been trying to hard to be a moderate, (and) in the process may have lost environmentally concerned voters, particularly among younger demographics, to the Greens and even the Liberals"

Printed in this week's Now Magazine (Aug 13-19, 2015) page 20

No link available, I transcribed this blurb from Now Magazine.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Nobody outside Toronto cares what NOW says, and most people in Toronto don't care either.

socialdemocrati...

That's an odd comment to make about losing voters. The Greens are the lowest in the polls they've been in a while, and the NDP has had solid support among young people since 2011. I think people can do the math on "polluter pay" and "carbon pricing" and "thorough environmental review" and conclude the environment will be protected under the NDP.

terrytowel

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Nobody outside Toronto cares what NOW says, and most people in Toronto don't care either.

There are 25 seats in the GTA. You can bet the Liberals and NDP do care.

Stockholm

terrytowel wrote:

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Nobody outside Toronto cares what NOW says, and most people in Toronto don't care either.

There are 25 seats in the GTA. You can bet the Liberals and NDP do care.

Yeah well, last year NOW wholeheartedly supported Olivia Chow for mayor and condemned John Tory every step of the way. If NOW is that influential, why isn't she mayor now?

terrytowel

Stockholm wrote:

terrytowel wrote:

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Nobody outside Toronto cares what NOW says, and most people in Toronto don't care either.

There are 25 seats in the GTA. You can bet the Liberals and NDP do care.

Yeah well, last year NOW wholeheartedly supported Olivia Chow for mayor and condemned John Tory every step of the way. If NOW is that influential, why isn't she mayor now?

NDP might bleed support to the Greens and allow the Liberals to come up the middle is some of these GTA ridings where it is a battle between the NDP & Liberals.

socialdemocrati...

If you are worried about Mulcair doing the Obama-like "we'll see what a thorough environmental review says" about Energy East, I can't see how that helps the Liberals get more Toronto seats when Trudeau was actively promoting Keystone XL in his U.S. visit.

 

terrytowel

Vote splitting if NDP support bleeds to the Greens over Energy East

Stockholm

I will go out on a limb and predict that the Greens will get no more than 3 or 4% of the vote across Toronto...and quite frankly if they do pick up some teeny-weeny number of votes over Energy East (and i'm highly sceptical that they will) its as likely to come from people who would otherwise vote Liberal as NDP. Last year we had a byelection in Trinity-Spadina - A BYELECTION - you know where people can freely cast a single issue protest vote and not take any risk - and the Greens spend a small fortune and attacked the NDP for seeming open to Energy East and attacking the Liberals for being pro-Keystone XL...and they got a whopping 4% of the vote - barely ahead of the Libertarian.

terrytowel

And in the same by-election for the riding of MacLeod the Greens BEAT the NDP for third spot with 5% of the vote up +0.81. While the NDP went down −6.11

socialdemocrati...

4-5% is the floor for the Greens. Those aren't voters anyone can get. Their second choice to voting green is staying home.

It's a bum theory from a low influence magazine that isn't worth repeating.

josh

Michael Moriarity wrote:

josh wrote:

“How is New Brunswick going to be able to attract and retain top-level medical doctors when they’re going to be told, ‘Oh, by the way, our tax rate is now going to be close to 60 per cent?’”

Thank you, Mr. Harper. I mean, Mr. Mulcair.

I don't like that comment either, but I also don't consider it a valid reason to publicly condemn the NDP, and suggest that people should vote Liberal instead.

Where did I ever say that people should vote Liberal? NDP candidates are generally more progressive. However, when it comes to Mulcair and Trudeau, it's 6 of one and a half a dozen of the other.

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Stockholm

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

4-5% is the floor for the Greens. Those aren't voters anyone can get. Their second choice to voting green is staying home.

It's a bum theory from a low influence magazine that isn't worth repeating.

Its actually not even a "bum theory" from NOW. Its a bum theory from terrytowel

Misfit Misfit's picture

Josh and MM, as for Mulcair's quote of New Brunswick having trouble retaining or attracting doctors with a 60% tax rate, some can read into his debate comment as a shifting to the right of the NDP. This could very easily be true and also very concerning. However, I read something else more benign into that comment, and one which was politically astute of him. The Liberals are leading only in Atlantic Canada, and that lead is slipping to the NDP. I read it as a jab at the Liberal's policy statement, which is cosmetic at best, and turning it into a huge vulnerability for them in Atlantic Canada, where the NDP has shown room for growth during the election. I just think it was a head game to throw Trudeau off during the debate and to show that Mulcair can dance circles around Trudeau with all his rehearsed talking points.

Unionist

josh wrote:

Where did I ever say that people should vote Liberal?

If you criticize Mulcair, you must be a Liberal. Babble 101.

 

Northern-54

I suspect that Greens in many parts of Canada can be persuaded to go to the polls and vote against Harper. Thi swould involve identifying Green voters and then pulling them to the polls on election day.  Half of them will vote Green anyways but the other half could be convinced that their vote would be better spent defeating a Harper Conservative candidate.

This will be more difficult in those Toronto ridings where the Conservatives are clearly not competitive.  The appeal can be made by either Liberal or NDP candidates.  In a close race, 1% to 2% can make the difference.  I was once involved in an election where our polling indicated that we were behind the Conservatives by 2% in a Saskatoon riding in a provincial election.  There was no Liberal or Green chance of victory. We made an appeal (through a dropped letter the day before the election) to uncommitted voters (those we got question marks as markings) to unseat the Conservative cabinet minister and we ended up winning by 10%.    It is important to know that Liberals and Greens generally dislike Conservatives as NDP'ers and that Conservatives almost always self-identify to canvassers.

Misfit Misfit's picture

This is why I would like to see Mulcair in the consortium debate with Trudeau even though Harper won't be there. It will provide more one on one for Mulcair to expose the vulnerabilities and hollowness of the Liberal platform. If he is successful, he can cause a total collapse for the Liberals and possibly pull off a majority. I think the debate improved dramatically when he went after Trudeau directly.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Unionist wrote:

josh wrote:

Where did I ever say that people should vote Liberal?

If you criticize Mulcair, you must be a Liberal. Babble 101.

 

Word.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

josh wrote:
Michael Moriarity wrote:

josh wrote:

“How is New Brunswick going to be able to attract and retain top-level medical doctors when they’re going to be told, ‘Oh, by the way, our tax rate is now going to be close to 60 per cent?’”

Thank you, Mr. Harper. I mean, Mr. Mulcair.

I don't like that comment either, but I also don't consider it a valid reason to publicly condemn the NDP, and suggest that people should vote Liberal instead.

Where did I ever say that people should vote Liberal? NDP candidates are generally more progressive. However, when it comes to Mulcair and Trudeau, it's 6 of one and a half a dozen of the other.

.

I'm sorry, I guess you didn't, and I wasn't really trying to say that you did. I was more commenting on the earlier discussion of the Globe article which suggested that maybe some lefties should get together and organize a public denunciation of Mulcair. Again, sorry for not being clear.

josh

No problem.

adma

terrytowel wrote:

And in the same by-election for the riding of MacLeod the Greens BEAT the NDP for third spot with 5% of the vote up +0.81. While the NDP went down −6.11

 

That was pre-Orange Chinook, y'know?

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

Chris, the MSM is so Pathetic. Bruce Anderson on the CBC said tonight the NDP better not run as a governemtn in waiting or "they'll look arrogant and old school". What's he want them to do, say vote LPC, we aren't ready. It was pathetic. I tweeted him. For what its worth,Chantal Heibert wasn't having any part of it, and gave her impressions as she called them saying Mulcair and Trudeau weren't hurt by the debate, and that Harper was looking weak. I hate that panel, but at least, Hebert by ignoring Anderson kind of gave him a slap with the back of her hand, so to speak. G-d I just hate how this election is being covered by the MSN Epecially that Althia Raj, what a LPC shill. The last thing she is is a "journalist".

Pondering

Arthur Cramer wrote:

Chris, the MSM is so Pathetic. Bruce Anderson on the CBC said tonight the NDP better not run as a governemtn in waiting or "they'll look arrogant and old school". What's he want them to do, say vote LPC, we aren't ready. It was pathetic. I tweeted him. For what its worth,Chantal Heibert wasn't having any part of it, and gave her impressions as she called them saying Mulcair and Trudeau weren't hurt by the debate, and that Harper was looking weak. I hate that panel, but at least, Hebert by ignoring Anderson kind of gave him a slap with the back of her hand, so to speak. G-d I just hate how this election is being covered by the MSN Epecially that Althia Raj, what a LPC shill. The last thing she is is a "journalist".

There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. Notley schooled Prentice on that.

60% of votes are still up for grabs despite what the polls are saying. Mulcair sending the message that he is the only choice other than Harper may well lead people to let him know that there is another option.

terrytowel

BREAKING - NDP is ready to Fight fire with fire by having Andrew Thompson, fmr finance minister in SK under Calvert govt, to go up against Joe Oliver in Eglinton-Lawrence. Right now NDP is polling at 20% in that ridng WITHOUT a candidate named.

mark_alfred

Wow.  Very gutsy move.  The fact that they're running such a high profile candidate in Eglinton-Lawrence is something I never would have guessed.  And the fact that it is a direct challenge to Joe Oliver and his role as Finance Minister via having a former finance minister of Saskatchewan, Andrew Thompson, run, is mind blowing.  Eglinton-Lawrence?  I went to a riding association meeting several months ago, and there were about six people there.  There was a rumour of someone high-profile considering it, but I never would have guessed this.

socialdemocrati...

I honestly don't think Eglinton-Lawrence is winnable. Andrew Thompson would be a hell of a candidate otherwise.

mark_alfred

No one thought Outremont was winnable either.  Or Alberta.  So, maybe Eglinton-Lawrence.

Misfit Misfit's picture

I read up on him in Wikipedia, and his actions as Finance minister in Saskatchewan seemed rather too fiscally conservative for me.

Brachina

 He took his orders from Premier Calvert, its Calvert who set the policies.

 This has has to piss the Liberals off, as if Eve Adams wasn't nightmare enough.

jerrym

Wendy Yuan's accusations of the Liberal party's denial of her right to run in the Steveston-Richmond East riding of BC have not only triggered the resignation of the entire riding executive (except for one person currently on holiday), they have resulted in the resignation of Mike Hillman, the membership chair for the Liberal Party of Canada in B.C. The executive of the Vancouver South Liberals have also resigned over alleged problems with former Liberal cabinet minister Raymond Chan, Justin Trudeau's top organizer in the Chinese Canadian community, involving claims similar to those made by Yuan: demanding $10,000 for himself to speak for 3 minutes fundraising events. 

Yuan claims in a sworn affidavit that Chan blocked her candidacy, despite having run as a Liberal in 2008 and 2011 and having signed up 6,000 members to the party over the years, including 3,000 of the 4,000 in Steveston-East Richmond, because she had raised the issue of his illegitimate demands for $10,000 for himself when fundraising with the Liberal party. This is backed up by another affidavit from Howare Xu, a former Liberal campaign manager, who claims in a sworn affidavit that Liberal candidates Edward Wong in Vancouver East and Steven Kou in Vancouver Kingsway, both told him that Raymond Chan was asking candidates for $10,000 each for a three minute speech by him.

Despite the Steveston East-Richmond riding having 4,000 members, 3,000 of whom were signed up by Yuan, the nomination meeting was held in a room that holds only 50 people, with Yuan's supporters being denied entry and Liberal candidate Joe Peschisolido being acclaimed. 

This will cause major damage to the Liberal's chances in Metro Vancouver, the only part of BC they have a chance of electing MPs. 

 

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Supporters of disqualified Liberal candidate Wendy Yuan pack Hamilton Community Centre in Richmond on Tuesday after being shut out of a nomination meeting where Joe Peschisolido was acclaimed as the party’s candidate for Steveston-Richmons East.

Supporters of disqualified Liberal candidate Wendy Yuan pack Hamilton Community Centre in Richmond on Tuesday after being shut out of a nomination meeting where Joe Peschisolido was acclaimed as the party’s candidate for Steveston-Richmons East

“I put my application forward, believing that it is an open nomination, believing it is fair and transparent and it’s just — but our right was taken away today,” said Yuan. “That ballot has only one name and I am disheartened as a longtime Liberal.”

In response to Yuan’s disqualification, a number of Liberal party executives also issued their resignation. ...

“I have a problem with those handlers, those backroom boys, those people who are actually surrounding our leaders who are not serving our party well and I plead to our leader to take a hard look at who he is using.”

Yuan claimed her application to represent the riding was rejected with no concrete reason, but had alleged there was interference from former Liberal MP and cabinet member Raymond Chan.

Crowds who converged on the Richmond community centre Tuesday were a mix of Yuan’s own supporters — majority of whom were Asian — and Liberal party supporters. According to a press release issued by Yuan’s team, the hastily organized meeting had been planned at the centre to acclaim Peschisolido. A crowd of people hoping to attend the meeting filled the centre’s lobby, with a lineup spilling outside the centre. The meeting itself was held in a room that allowed only 50 people.

At 6:10 p.m., a City of Richmond staffer notified members of the crowd there would be no more people allowed inside the room as capacity had been reached.After the meeting, Yuan spoke to supporters in the field outside the centre, thanking them for their support and reiterating her frustration.

http://www.theprovince.com/Disqualified+Richmond+candidate+Wendy+Yuan+ca...

 

 

terrytowel

Olivia Chow’s flip-flop on the Scarborough subway

http://m.torontosun.com/2015/08/14/chow-flip-flops-on-scarborough-subway

josh

Misfit wrote:
I read up on him in Wikipedia, and his actions as Finance minister in Saskatchewan seemed rather too fiscally conservative for me.

No wonder Mulcair sought him out.

bekayne

josh wrote:
Misfit wrote:
I read up on him in Wikipedia, and his actions as Finance minister in Saskatchewan seemed rather too fiscally conservative for me.

No wonder Mulcair sought him out.

But how does he feel about Israel?

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