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Pondering

swallow wrote:
This is high;y debateable. The NDP won 4.5-million votes in 2011; about 2.88 million in Quebec and 2.63-million in the rest of Canada. Yes, that is a slim majority from Quebec, but it's hardly accurate to say that a majority of the NDP's national votes came from former Bloc voters. There were switchers from all parties and the NDP had existing support in Quebec.

swallow wrote:
This sort of posting-by-caricature often leads to odd conclusions. You appear to start from the viewpoint of the tiny minority of Quebec residents who oppose Quebec natrionalism, and draw your conclusions based on that and not on actual information. Perceptions are powerful, sure, but it's lecturing to otehrs on how things "are," when the evidence for your arguments is so often lacking, that is in my humble opinion a problem.

We are not a tiny minority and we are growing and guess what, some of us are francophones.

swallow wrote:
This is on topic to the extent that anti-nationalist policies still appear to inform the Canadain Liberal party's approach to Quebec. I can find almost no one whose first langauge is not English, out here in "the regions of Quebec," who has the slightest sympathy for the sort of centralist Canadain nationalism that domiantes Liberal party thinking.

Approximately half of Quebec's population is in Montreal and another big chunk is in Quebec City. I don't know who you meet but I know lots of people who want strong federal programs like EI and medicare and don't want to give the provincial parties more power. Liberal support is not limited to anglophone Montrealers. Trudeau actively makes the argument for Canadian unity

swallow wrote:
Yes, many may vote Liberal in any case, if the Liberals are seen as the only way to get rid of the vile Harper government with its chokehold on much of Ontario. But to me it's evfidence that "two solitudes" exist, and many Liberal Canada-first nationalists like yourself are speaking from a different universe from the majority of Quebec.

What was the percentage of support for the Quebec Charter of Values again? Pretty damn high as I recall, especially in the regions. Being in the majority doesn't make someone right. Nationalism isn't even a matter of right or wrong.

I don't accept your division of "Canada first" versus "Quebec first".  My family comes first, then my community, then Montreal, then Quebec, then Canada because Quebec is part of Canada. They are not in competition. I have lots of unilingual French relatives. Quebec "nationalism" doesn't necessarily translate into the desire to give the Quebec government more power or the desire to be automatically opted out of federal programs. 

Pondering

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
I think the suggestion that the NDP has inherited BQ sensitivities is a political statement that lies somewher between pig manure and bull manure.

I agree but I haven't noticed anyone making that suggestion.

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
There was no expectation in the minds of people voting for the NDP that the party would be expected to think and act like the BQ. Rather, there was a desire for people in Quebec to move to positve influence at the federal level ratehr than vote for a party that could never form a government or even be accepted as participating in one.

I think the Bloc lost power because Gilles Duceppe started mouthing off that a vote for the Bloc with the PQ in power in Quebec indicated support for separatism. That left Ignatieff and Layton to choose from and le bon Jack won.

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Certainly, the Liberal party would be expected to be very respectful of Quebec and its status as a distinct nation. The Liberal party would have to be careful not to irritate the sensibilities of Quebec given that the results to the party would be catastrophic.

I think you mean the sensibilities of Quebec nationalists and no it isn't necessary to cater to nationalist sensibilities. They can even be denounced.

Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau

In October 2006, Trudeau criticized Quebec nationalism by describing political nationalism generally as an "old idea from the 19th century", "based on a smallness of thought" and not relevant to modern Quebec. This comment was seen as a criticism of Michael Ignatieff, then a candidate in the 2006 Liberal Party leadership election, who was promoting recognition of Quebec as a nation.[33][34] Trudeau subsequently wrote a public letter on the subject, describing the idea of Quebec nationhood as "against everything my father ever believed."[35][36]

More recently Justin also openly defended the Clarity Act which nationlists hate.

Justin's instantaneous condemnation of the Quebec Soccer Federation's ban on hijabs and on the Quebec Charter of Values when it was still just an idea also offended nationalists. So no, Trudeau is not being "careful not to irritate the sensibilities of Quebec" (nationalists), it has hurt him with Quebec nationlists but it is not catastrophic because contrary to popular believe "nationalism" isn't the be all and end all of politics in Quebec.

Quote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/04/07/trudeau-quebec-election-2014-res...

Robert Asselin, associate director of the Graduate School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Ottawa, ...

"For four elections, Quebecers voted massively for the Bloc (Quebecois). The last time they voted NDP; that was a party that presented itself as sympathetic to Quebec nationalists, so there's a lot of work to be done among the federal parties to convince Quebecers to re-embark with Canada."

NDP supporters try to alternate the argument that the NDP isn't and doesn't try to win the votes of Quebec nationlists with the argument that all the parties are trying to win the votes of nationalists. Neither is true.

The Conservatives tried to cater to nationlists with the empty gesture of declaring Quebec a nation. Ignatieff wanted to humour them too.

Justin Trudeau doesn't try to appeal to nationalist sentiments in Quebec and he makes no secret of it. It is among the top reasons why I support him.

Sean in Ottawa

It is about context. Depends on how you define nationalist-- those who want respect and acknowledgement of Quebec as a nation and those who want that nation to be an independent state.

I support the first and not the second. I am not alone -- not even here in Ontario outside Quebec.

NDP supporters rightly want to define a difference between the first and the second. NDP supporters react with frustration when they are attacked as trying to suck up to those supporting the second when they are merely agreeing to the former.

We know what we stand for. Pondering you are the one confused about what we are saying.

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True, Justin Trudeau is not trying to pander to flag-waving Quebec nationalists. Only flag-waving Canadian nationalists, an at least equally self-righteous group. And yes, no shit Professor Dion, some Canadian nationalists are francophone.  

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Pondering

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
It is about context. Depends on how you define nationalist-- those who want respect and acknowledgement of Quebec as a nation and those who want that nation to be an independent state.

I support the first and not the second. I am not alone -- not even here in Ontario outside Quebec.

NDP supporters rightly want to define a difference between the first and the second. NDP supporters react with frustration when they are attacked as trying to suck up to those supporting the second when they are merely agreeing to the former.

We know what we stand for. Pondering you are the one confused about what we are saying.

You are the one who is confused. I tell you over and over and over again that I aknowledge that Mulcair is not a separatist. I don't care whether or not anyone classifies Quebec as a nation. That is philosophical. My concern is policy and stance on issues not philosophy.

It is how you deflect any criticism of Mulcair's reactions to events in Quebec and NDP policy positions. You get all indignant and claim Mulcair is being accused of being a separatist sympathizer even though no one said anything of the sort.

Pondering

swallow wrote:

True, Justin Trudeau is not trying to pander to flag-waving Quebec nationalists. Only flag-waving Canadian nationalists, an at least equally self-righteous group.

For me it has nothing to do with self-righteousness or flag-waving. It's about conflicting visions of Canada and Quebec's place within it. It's not an issue of right or wrong it's about favoring different political structures and policies. It's not wrong for a separatist to be a separatist or for a nationalist to be a nationalist. It's also not wrong to be neither of those things.

Sean in Ottawa

Pondering wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
It is about context. Depends on how you define nationalist-- those who want respect and acknowledgement of Quebec as a nation and those who want that nation to be an independent state.

I support the first and not the second. I am not alone -- not even here in Ontario outside Quebec.

NDP supporters rightly want to define a difference between the first and the second. NDP supporters react with frustration when they are attacked as trying to suck up to those supporting the second when they are merely agreeing to the former.

We know what we stand for. Pondering you are the one confused about what we are saying.

You are the one who is confused. I tell you over and over and over again that I aknowledge that Mulcair is not a separatist. I don't care whether or not anyone classifies Quebec as a nation. That is philosophical. My concern is policy and stance on issues not philosophy.

It is how you deflect any criticism of Mulcair's reactions to events in Quebec and NDP policy positions. You get all indignant and claim Mulcair is being accused of being a separatist sympathizer even though no one said anything of the sort.

 

Your words:

While the NDP does have support cross Canada the majority of it is in Quebec coming from former Bloc voters who are nationalistic so require Mulcair to keep a very delicate balance to avoid offending the ROC. ...

Sean in Ottawa

Pondering wrote:

It is how you deflect any criticism of Mulcair's reactions to events in Quebec and NDP policy positions. You get all indignant and claim Mulcair is being accused of being a separatist sympathizer even though no one said anything of the sort.

Are you mistaking me once again for someone else or just making this up?

 

 

Pondering

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Your words:

While the NDP does have support cross Canada the majority of it is in Quebec coming from former Bloc voters who are nationalistic so require Mulcair to keep a very delicate balance to avoid offending the ROC. ...

Yes, nationalistic, not separatist, two different things. You said this:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Certainly, the NDP would be expected to be very respectful of Quebec and its status as a distinct nation. The NDP would have to be careful not to irritate the sensibilities of Quebec given that the results to the party would be catastrophic.

Which is pretty much saying the same exact thing I said only when I say it you translate nationalist to separatist and start insisting he isn't a separatist sympathizer.

Mulcair and Trudeau don't have identical views on nationalism nor do they share a common view on Quebec's relationship to Canada. Do you disagree with that statement?

Sean in Ottawa

Don't bother asking me questions. I am tired of you making up statments you claim I said or mischaracterizing what was said. Let it go and so will I.

Pondering

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Don't bother asking me questions. I am tired of you making up statments you claim I said or mischaracterizing what was said. Let it go and so will I.

That depends on what you are referring to. If you mean this conversation, sure. If you mean not express my preference for Trudeau's views on Quebec's place in Canada over Mulcair's, nope. It will come up again because it's a major factor in my support for Trudeau and my lack of support for Mulcair and the NDP.

Wilf Day

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Two things I can see: 1/3 women and more people of colour than in the past. Both worth noting.

In Nova Scotia in 2011, the Liberals nominated 11 men and no women. To date this time: six men, no women.

Wilf Day

Pondering wrote:
While the NDP does have support cross Canada the majority of it is in Quebec coming from former Bloc voters who are nationalistic so require Mulcair to keep a very delicate balance to avoid offending the ROC.

Quebec votes: 2008; 2011

Bloc 38.1%; 23.4%

Liberal 23.8%; 14.2% 

Conservative 21.7%; 16.5%

NDP 12.2%; 42.9%

Green 3.5%; 2.1%.

The Quebec NDP increase came 52% from voters for federalist parties.

In the last poll of second choices (page 25) taken before the election, 54% of Liberal voters stated the NDP as their second choice, 49% of Bloc voters, 33% of Green voters, and 23% of Conservative voters.

 

Wilf Day

kropotkin1951 wrote:
Every sign and poster was in both languages; English and Mandarin.  We had way more support in the Taiwanese community than in the Hong Kong community and we held our own with the people from mainland China.

Umm, posters would be in Chinese, not Mandarin. The Hong Kong community would speak Cantonese. The Taiwanese community would speak Mandarin, as would most mainlanders.  

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I suepect those self-identifying as Taiwanese would mostly speak Taiwanese within the community, though many opf course will speak Mandarin. Truer for DPP-supporting Taiwanese than KMT supporters, of course. 

Wilf, good work debunking Pondering's claims, but I don't imagine she's much inclined to pay attention to evidence-based posts. 

Pondering

    swallow wrote:

      Wilf, good work debunking Pondering's claims, but I don't imagine she's much inclined to pay attention to evidence-based posts. 

      That is an ignorant bullying statement and completely unnecessary.

      I don't see how we can expect to stop kids from bullying when self-proclaimed progressive adults find it so irresistable.

      Aristotleded24
      jjuares

      Pondering wrote:

        swallow wrote:

          Wilf, good work debunking Pondering's claims, but I don't imagine she's much inclined to pay attention to evidence-based posts. 

          That is an ignorant bullying statement and completely unnecessary.

          I don't see how we can expect to stop kids from bullying when self-proclaimed progressive adults find it so irresistable.


          It's anything but bullying when someone points that you have stated a falsehood. Nor is it bullying when someone else points out that you aren't going to accept an evidence based answer. In fact I was interested that you chose to make this silly accusation rather than respond to Wilf's comment.

          Bullying is a serious problem but it involves targeted and ongoing behaviour. I see bullying as a serious problem and it bothers me when people use it to simply shut down unpleasant criticisms as you are doing here. You cheapen the word and denigrate real victims of bullying when you use it to avoid the fact that Wilf' has caught you stating something you may have trouble defending and may prove to be false.

          Pondering

          jjuares wrote:
          Pondering wrote:

            swallow wrote:

              Wilf, good work debunking Pondering's claims, but I don't imagine she's much inclined to pay attention to evidence-based posts. 

              That is an ignorant bullying statement and completely unnecessary.

              I don't see how we can expect to stop kids from bullying when self-proclaimed progressive adults find it so irresistable.

              It's anything but bullying when someone points that you have stated a falsehood. Nor is it bullying when someone else points out that you aren't going to accept an evidence based answer. In fact I was interested that you chose to make this silly accusation rather than respond to Wilf's comment. Bullying is a serious problem but it involves targeted and ongoing behaviour. I see bullying as a serious problem and it bothers me when people use it to simply shut down unpleasant criticisms as you are doing here. You cheapen the word and denigrate real victims of bullying when you use it to avoid the fact that Wilf' has caught you stating something you may have trouble defending and may prove to be false.

              Yeah like nobody else here ever gets anything wrong. I have acknowledged mistakes and mis-speaking so the falsehoods here are yours. I have never deliberately lied.

              I answered this rather than responding to Wilf because this is more important. The sole purpose of Swallow's comment, and yours, is to "publically" insult me.

              There was and is absolutely no reason for you to make me the topic of conversation. Go ahead and do it if you must but have the guts to own it. Don't you want everyone to know why we are discussing me? This way you can be sure my crimes are broadcasted as far and wide as possible. Alerting everyone to my character or lack thereof is much more important then discussing Federal Liberal Candidates. I'm sure everyone finds your thoughts on me far more interesting. I want to make sure you get the credit you deserve for the scintillating change in topic.

              I'm sure there are a few more of you just dying to jump in to defend Swallow and JJ. Don't be shy. Jump right in. I don't mind at all anymore. I'm like a star in the tabloids. We can talk about me every day. I am an endlessly fascinating topic to me and I see now that you share my sentiments. I should be the topic of discussion in all threads. Let's make sure the babble links on the rabble front page are conversations about me. That will be sure to tempt more progressives to join the board so they too can talk about me.

              Adam T

              Here in Steveston-Richmond East it's businesswoman Wendy Yuan vs. former M.P Joe Peschisolido.

              http://nominatewendyyuan.nationbuilder.com/

              I'd support Wendy Yuan but she has a grammatical error on her companies' website that annoys me. Can you spot it?

               

              Bradley Pacific Enterprises is a wholly Canadian-owned, Vancouver-based company founded in 1988. Since then, it has been actively engaged in a diverse range of business activities around the globe with an emphasis on exporting goods from North America to Pacific Rim countries and regions such as China and Hong Kong.

              Its essential product lines include exporting North American steel, newsprint and pulp, lumber and wood products, sulfur and chemical production equipment to Asian. Bradley also prides itself in the areas of offering consulting services to its clients from Asian countries in corporate finance, mergers and acquisitions, and real estate investment. Likewise, the company has successfully assisted its North American clients in sourcing and identifying sound investment opportunities and joint-venture projects in Asian countries.

              Pondering

              Adam T wrote:

              Here in Steveston-Richmond East it's businesswoman Wendy Yuan vs. former M.P Joe Peschisolido.

              http://nominatewendyyuan.nationbuilder.com/

              I'd support Wendy Yuan but she has a grammatical error on her companies' website that annoys me. Can you spot it.

              I spotted it, but its a minor mistake if you get my drift. It shouldn't prevent anyone from supporting her.

              swallow swallow's picture

              Well, Pondering, I've attempted to addres the evidence-based aspect as Wilf did, and you ignored evidence-based aspects. But I'd ask that no one defend me on this thread; since Pondering thinks I have said something unacceptable, I am flagging my own post and invite a mioderator ruling. 

              Adam T

              Pondering wrote:

              Adam T wrote:

              Here in Steveston-Richmond East it's businesswoman Wendy Yuan vs. former M.P Joe Peschisolido.

              http://nominatewendyyuan.nationbuilder.com/

              I'd support Wendy Yuan but she has a grammatical error on her companies' website that annoys me. Can you spot it.

              I spotted it, but its a minor mistake if you get my drift. It shouldn't prevent anyone from supporting her.

               

              Well, I've emailed her company twice to change it and I've even tweeted her.  She even followed me on twitter but they still haven't changed it.

              I once spotted a grammatical error on a Carole James website and they had it corrected within the hour. 

              Sean in Ottawa

              What is the error -- I don't want to spend the time proofreading especially when I don't know what page it is on-- can you just say?

              Adam T

              Sean in Ottawa wrote:

              What is the error -- I don't want to spend the time proofreading especially when I don't know what page it is on-- can you just say?

               

              Sorry

              "Its essential product lines include exporting North American steel, newsprint and pulp, lumber and wood products, sulfur and chemical production equipment to Asian."

               

              they obviously meant either "Asian countries" or "Asian markets"

               

               

              Pondering

              swallow wrote:

              Well, Pondering, I've attempted to addres the evidence-based aspect as Wilf did, and you ignored evidence-based aspects. But I'd ask that no one defend me on this thread; since Pondering thinks I have said something unacceptable, I am flagging my own post and invite a mioderator ruling. 

              Saying something unacceptable to me is not the same thing as breaking rabble policy which apparently you are not doing so flagging is probably pointless.

              No, you did not address the evidence-based aspect and you were not attempting to. You had nothing at all to add in that regard. You were playing cheerleader for Wilf and insulting me. You had the guts to insult me so have the guts to own it instead of running to mommy.

              Sean in Ottawa

              Adam T wrote:

              Sean in Ottawa wrote:

              What is the error -- I don't want to spend the time proofreading especially when I don't know what page it is on-- can you just say?

               

              Sorry

              "Its essential product lines include exporting North American steel, newsprint and pulp, lumber and wood products, sulfur and chemical production equipment to Asian."

               

              they obviously meant either "Asian countries" or "Asian markets"

               

               

              Yes that sounds like a word cut off.

              Thanks

              Adam T

              Wendy Yuan lost twice to Don Davis in Vancouver-Kingsway in 2008 and 2011.  The Conservatives have nominated some school trustee and I don't hear any rumors about the NDP.

              Pondering

              Adam T wrote:

              Sean in Ottawa wrote:

              What is the error -- I don't want to spend the time proofreading especially when I don't know what page it is on-- can you just say?

               

              Sorry

              "Its essential product lines include exporting North American steel, newsprint and pulp, lumber and wood products, sulfur and chemical production equipment to Asian."

               

              they obviously meant either "Asian countries" or "Asian markets"

               

               

              lol, I didn't catch that one, there's another one in that same sentence that it appears you missed.

              ctrl190

              Grant Gordon, the Liberal candidate in the 2012 Toronto-Danforth by-election, has pulled out of the nomination for the riding. The remaining Liberal nominee is lawyer Julie Dabrusin. 

              Debater

              Sunday, November 9

              1) Karen McCrimmon nominated as Liberal candidate in Kanata-Carleton.

              (Karen was the first Canadian woman to command an Air Force squadron.)

               

              2) Leona Alleslev nominated as Liberal candidate in Aurora-Oak Ridges-Richmond Hill.

              (Leona is also a former Air Force officer).

              Debater

              Ralph Goodale nominated as Liberal candidate in Regina-Wascana.

              Lord Palmerston

              That's a

              Adam T

              Federal Liberals nominated B.C candidates

              1.John Aldag, Cloverdale-Langley City, Parks Canada Historic Sites Manager Coastal B.C Division, President Flip City Gymnastics Center (non profit), MBA Acclaimed

              2.Terry Beech,33, Burnaby-North Seymour, Venture Capital Firm Managing Partner and Graphic Design Firm Chair/Business Professor, B.A-Business and Economics, MBA, Former Nanaimo City Councillor, Acclaimed

              3.Louis De Jaeger, Chilliwack-Hope, Owner Bravo Restaurant and Lounge, Acclaimed

              4.Connie Denesiuk, South Okanagan-West Kootenay, Construction Company Owner, Former School Trustee 1992-2011 and board chair, 2013 Provincial Liberal B.C Candidate for nomination in Pentiction, former Conservative, Acclaimed

              5.Cindy Derkaz, North Okanagan-Shuswap, Retired Self Employed Lawyer, Acclaimed

              6.Hedy Fry,73, Vancover Centre, Family Physician and Former President BCMA, M.P 1993- Health Critic

              7.Stephen Fuhr,45, Kelowna-Lake Country Commercial Pilot, Former CEO Sky Trac Systems (Satellite Voice and Tracking Equipment Manufacturer), Retired Air Force Major,  Acclaimed

              8.Pamela Goldsmith-Jones,53. West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country, Public Affairs and Strategic Planning Consultant, B.A and M.A-Political Science, MBA, former Mayor of West Vancouver 2005-2011, Defeated Robert Cannon-Brown for nomination

              9.Joyce Murray,60, Vancouver-Quadra, Reforestation Company Owner, MBA, former MLA 2001-2005 and Environment Minister, M.P 2008- Critic National Defense and Western Diversification

              10.Carrie Powell Davidson, Courtney-Alberni, Editor and Writer Oceanside Star/Event Planner and firm owner, former Parksville City Councillor 2008-2014, acclaimed

              11.Steve Powrie, Kamloops-Thompson-Cariboo, Elementary School Music Teacher and former Orchestra Member, Education Instructor, B.A-Psychology and Economics, B-Ed, M.A-Administration and Curriculum Studies, Defeated Niki Remesz for nomination

              12.Peter Schwarzhoff, North Island-Powell River, Retired Environment Canada Meteorologist and Meteoroligical Services of Canada Manager of Science, B.Sc-Meteorology, Retired Air Force Captain

              13.Jati Sidhu, Mission-Matsqui-Fraser Canyon, President and CEO Sidhu Group (Housing and Business Construction)/Farmer, 2011 Abbotsford City Council candidate, Defeated Rhett Nicholson for nomination

              14.Jonathan Wilkinson,48, North Vancouver, Former CEO Quest Air Technologies and former CEO BioteQ Environmental Technologies,, B.A(hons), M.A-International Relations and Economics, Rhodes Scholar, Former SYND President and Roy Romanow Advisor, Defeated Marjan Jamsez, Neil Cave and Mark Pezzaro for nomination

              15.Jody Wilson-Raybould,43, Vanouver-Granville, Lawyer and former Crown Prosecutor, Regional Chief B.C Assembly of First Nations, B.A-Political Science and History, Acclaimed

              Stockholm

              Apparently Liberal gadfly Warren Kinsella wants to run in Toronto-Danforth against Craig Scott. I wonder:

              a. Will Trudeau and his henchmen allow a divisive, loose cannon like Kinsella anywhere near a Liberal nomination, and

              b. Whether he would be a very unattractive candidate and if nominated would make Craig Scott sleep very easily!

              terrytowel

              Stockholm wrote:

              Apparently Liberal gadfly Warren Kinsella wants to run in Toronto-Danforth against Craig Scott. I wonder:

              a. Will Trudeau and his henchmen allow a divisive, loose cannon like Kinsella anywhere near a Liberal nomination, and

              b. Whether he would be a very unattractive candidate and if nominated would make Craig Scott sleep very easily!

              After everything that went down with John Tory, Craig Scott would win that riding in a cakewalk against Kinsella.

              KenS

              You all are getting ahead about Warren.

              First there is a nomination battle.

              This is a big time lose lose set-up for the Prince. If he tries to freeze out Kinsella....

              Lord Palmerston

              I wonder how popular Kinsella is among Liberal Party members.

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              Lord Palmerston wrote:

              That's a

              That's a ?

              pebbles

              Lord Palmerston wrote:

              I wonder how popular Kinsella is among Liberal Party members.

               

              Is it possible to have negative popularity? I think that's where it is (+/- 4.6% 19 times out of 20...)

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              Kinsella isn't particularly popular among Liberals, no.

              But after writing several negative columns about the Liberals last year, he has written several complimentary ones recently, including predicting a win for Justin Trudeau in 2015.

              Coincidental?  I think he wants back in the Liberal good books.

              But he may not be serious about this.  I think ia couple of years ago he mused about running in Beaches-East York.

              KenS

              I think it is possible that Kinsella is only sure he likes the idea of rattling the brain trusts cage.

              But I dont think he would have bothered with those positive pieces unless he was thinking of running. Not so much trying to ingratiate [probably not possible for Warren], as the neccesity to at least go through the motions of saying nice things.

              KenS

              I was kind of suprised to see those positive pieces of his. He couldnt bring himself to praise Trudeau himself, but he did call him a winner.

              But not really surprised, you never really know what agenda(s) Kinsella may have just shifted to. That he was looking to running is only one possibility.

              Debater

              Why pick Toronto-Danforth if he really wants to be an MP?  It's the most NDP area of Toronto, will probably be known as 'Layton's seat' for a while, and will probably only go Liberal if NDP numbers in TO collapse back down to pre-2004 levels.

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              Former MLA Robert Morrissey is the new Liberal candidate for Egmont, PEI

              Elected today in what was reported to be the largest Liberal nomination in the riding's history.

              Lots of coverage by The Guardian and a visit by Premier Ghiz.

              Will be interesting to see whether CPC cabinet minister Gail Shea runs again next year.  Alice Funke on Pundit's Guide says she's one of a handful of CPC MP's who hasn't decided on 2015 yet.

              http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/News/Local/2014-11-22/article-3948505/Morri...

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              In a surprise result, Justin Trudeau was nominated tonight in Papineau, QC Wink

              http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanada/politiquefederale/archives/2014/11...

              nicky

              Too bad the Libs could not find a more qualified candidate.

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              nicky, don't you ever get tired of acting like such a meanie? Kiss

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              Former Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj nominated in Etobicoke Centre, ON.

              This is the riding that the Conservatives only won by 25 votes in 2011 under suspicious circumstances.  They only held onto it because of a 5-4 decision at the Supreme Court that stopped the by-election from going forward.  Polls at the time showed Borys Wrzesnewskyj leading by 10 points.

              https://twitter.com/BorysWrz/status/535946140697362432

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