Climate Change: I don't want to talk about it

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but after listening to the kids themselves well it was nothing as you describe magoo. the kids were knowledgeable and independent like so many kids can be if allowed to be.

When kids parrot something some adults agree with, those adults say "out of the mouths of babes...".

When those same kids want a tattoo, or birthday cake for dinner, or a 12am bedtime, or to eat Tide Pods, the adults say "Sadly, they're but babes..."

..you don't know that they are just parroting. your assuming that magoo.

..adults parrot things all the time. that is not the sum of it. adults can still have independent thought. why discriminate with kids?

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My 9.8kWp solar system had now been hooked up to the grid for 3 months now. 

And real disappointing results. It’s only produced half the power as estimated. 

If everyone’s who signed up for the microfit fit program in Ontario having the same problem, better get use to global warming. 

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you don't know that they are just parroting

OK.  You can tell us what they're parroting then.

I guess I'm feeling like maybe those 8 year olds didn't really do the research?  Same reason why I don't believe that everyone's 8 year old is totally ready to vote, and why I cannot support Demeny voting.  Or, 8 year olds voting.  On a scale of 0 to 0, how many 8 year olds do you really think would vote differently from their parents?  And how many parents do you think would let their 8 year olds nullify their votes?

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why discriminate with kids?

If 8 year olds are sophisticated and informed enough to make political choices, should we allow them to choose their own sexual partner, or why not?  Can they drive a car?  Or why not?  Choose to leave school?  Why not? 

How about just get a tattoo?  It's just a decoration, yes?  So why not? 

 

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Mr. Magoo wrote:

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you don't know that they are just parroting

OK.  You can tell us what they're parroting then.

I guess I'm feeling like maybe those 8 year olds didn't really do the research?  Same reason why I don't believe that everyone's 8 year old is totally ready to vote, and why I cannot support Demeny voting.  Or, 8 year olds voting.  On a scale of 0 to 0, how many 8 year olds do you really think would vote differently from their parents?  And how many parents do you think would let their 8 year olds nullify their votes?

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why discriminate with kids?

If 8 year olds are sophisticated and informed enough to make political choices, should we allow them to choose their own sexual partner, or why not?  Can they drive a car?  Or why not?  Choose to leave school?  Why not? 

How about just get a tattoo?  It's just a decoration, yes?  So why not? 

..it's not just 8 yr olds in the suit but your using them to strengthen your case..isn't that a manipulation?

..an 8 yr old can a see picture of the tarsands and know it is wrong. maybe an adult can convince the 8 yr old that it's for the good. but instinctively the child knows it's wrong. well polution is all around us and kids aren't wearing blinders. do you want yourself or society to deny them the right to pursue that instinct? and this isn't about voting or anything else but what it is.

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..so there i was laying with the lights out and i remember something that may be pertinent to our conversation. i couldn't get to sleep as it kept rolling around.

..so here it is. in vancouver there used to be a queer woman's cafe on broadway. can't remember the name. it was very active in hosting all kinds projects.

..one time i was sitting at a table and i happened to look at an event list that was placed on every table. one event was that of grade 5 & 6 kids were going to be there at a certain time on a certain day to work on their recycling project. i was impressed.

..so this had to be set up in conjunction with the school and or parents. so the kids, as i see it,  were being taught to work together and take responsibility.

..isn't that what those kids in the suit are doing? taking responsibility? 

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