More proof of global warming

Brian White
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Animals and birds are slightly smaller on average in warmer climates. If you sample the same species of bird on the side of a hill, as you go up (cooler) the birds get larger.

The study shows that birds in north america have gotten significantly smaller over the last 45 years conforming to "Berman's rule" and proving that global warming is happening.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8560000/8560694.stm

Worth a read, I think

Brian


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Policywonk
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Brian White wrote:

Animals and birds are slightly smaller on average in warmer climates. If you sample the same species of bird on the side of a hill, as you go up (cooler) the birds get larger.

The study shows that birds in north america have gotten significantly smaller over the last 45 years conforming to "Berman's rule" and proving that global warming is happening.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8560000/8560694.stm

Worth a read, I think

Brian

"Proof" is a bit strong. It is just more evidence to add to a plethora of evidence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8550090.stm


Brian White
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Yeah, I did science and Iagree. But scientific language is not the language of the people.

You have to convert what you say into public speak.  Otherwise we are lost.

The general public do not understand the evidence thing.  They do not understand that certainty in science is impossible.

We could wait until it gets to 50 C average temp and they will  still be saying that there is no proof.  That it it just a "cycle"

 The trial is over.  The verdict is in.

We have to stop being wishy washy.  


Transplant
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Doug wrote:
Global warming has solved a problem for once.


A good exmple of misattribution that only undermines public confidence in science.

Rather than rising sea level (at the current rate of 3 cm per decade), subsidence is the most likely cause of the island's submersion.

With all the well documented effects of climate change -- continued retreat of alpine glaciers, continued mass loss of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, the long-term decline in Arctic sea ice mass, poleward advance of the subtropics and species, etc. -- why grasp at things that obviously are not climate related?


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Interesting article actually, thanks Doug.

 

Indeed it seems with these claims of "oil" everywhere beneath the seas, we won't be running out anytime soon.


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