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The Avengers

Catchfire
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Who's seen it?

People seem to like this film. (Paging CMOT_Dibbler...)

Some ancillary media:

 

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“If anything, Avengers is sort of a second-generation 9/11 movie. The aliens attack, but it is ... a rich capitalist, a Norse god, a Russian spy, an American black ops assassin, a lost scientist, and a World War II-era hero who defend New York (and by extension, the world), not the US government,” he says.

 

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The superhero origin story of Joss Whedon goes like this:

Whedon, b. 1964, grows up surrounded by teachers and writers. His grandfather wrote for The Donna Reed Show in the '50s; his father, Tom Whedon, wrote for The Electric Company, Benson, The Golden Girls. His mother, Lee Stearns, who died in 1992, was an English teacher, a political activist, and a novelist.

After his parents' divorce, Joss goes to boarding school in England, studies film at Wesleyan, then moves out to California to try to write movies. Eventually he does. But first he works in a video store and bangs out TV spec scripts, one of which gets him hired as a staff writer on Roseanne, a job he'll later describe, on different occasions, as a valuable learning experience and "baptism by radioactive waste."



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CMOT Dibbler
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I liked the film. It was funny. The action sequences are engaging. Of course, progressive activists could level a whole bunch of criticism at it. Sam Jackson(who is wonderful by the way) seemed to be the only person of Color in the whole movie, besides some extras and The Hulk. Howerver, it has to be said that a collection of non speaking flesh puppets and a bright green CGI monster with rage issues hardly count when it comes to representation. The Avengers also suffers from the Smufette principle, with Blackwidow being the only female Avenger. She is given almost nothing to do except look pretty. It's sad. I don't think Joss is as feminist as he thinks he is.

Catchfire
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Can't argue with you there, CMOT ("Smurfette principle," lol!) Like I said, I haven't seen it, but for someone whose feminist credentials stem from Buffy and Firefly, the lack of strong female characters is disappointing.

The best case for this I've seen is this graphic, which I know you've seen, and which Maysie posted in another thread:

What if all the male characters in The Avengers posed like the female one?


CMOT Dibbler
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It may be the source material he's dealing with. These comics were sexist long before Marvel decided it was a good idea to make the film.

CMOT Dibbler
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Bump!

Boom Boom
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I though it was about Steed and Miss Peel. Embarassed


Catchfire
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Ha! When they first announced they were making this film, that's what I though too, Boom Boom! I guess the last Avengers film was so bad that they thought no one else would remember poor Paddy Macnee...


Boom Boom
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I remember the days of Honor Blackman as well, but Diana Rigg was unquestionably my favourite accomplice to Steed.


Caissa
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I'd recommend this novel to anyone who likes comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Adventures_of_Kavalier_%26_Clay

 


CMOT Dibbler
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bump!

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