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Rebel Diaz - Revolution Has Come

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byL3o3VMUKk&feature=player_embedded

Our goal with this song is to convey the message that Revolution is Love. It's what no one can take away from our communities- love for humanity. In the face of structural violence like racism, underfunded schools, and inadequate housing, our weapons of defense are education, sustainability, and community building. We don't promote voting every 4 years, we say vote everyday with your actions and serve the community!

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I'm watching George Harrison - Living In The Material World. It's in two parts, just over three hours total. I've seen it probably every month since last April on TMN. Great music and memories. You really get a sense of all the stress that the Beatles went through and why George finally had enough and left during the Let It Be sessions.

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@RevolutionPlease

Seems like a weak gimicky jealouse response to that song that still seems to boom out of peoples cars every summer.

@epaulo13

Nice track, and appreciate the message.

Are you two familiar with illogik's rebel love hip hop?

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ebodyknows wrote:

@RevolutionPlease

Seems like a weak gimicky jealouse response to that song that still seems to boom out of peoples cars every summer.

@epaulo13

Nice track, and appreciate the message.

Are you two familiar with illogik's rebel love hip hop?

 

For sure ebodyknows. I was that annoying kid when I was younger. Dunno what I was thinking, lol. That's why I have to support the kids.

 

I still believe you need to listen to it closer as I need to do with the song you provided because it needs some work. At least that song I posted was popular, lol. (oops, I think epaulo post)

 

Much better ebody, I need something fresh. Gonna try to find something in reply that isn't Public Enemy

 

 

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It might seem roundabout but sports will remain a bellweather until we make WOMEN MUCH stronger voices.

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I repeat this song often. My apologies:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY

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Do we really have to stick to what is popular? Have you heard the rest of K'naan's music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlmTUM3N6g0

I like how rap's got hard core in a way the 90's probably never expected with People from Africa getting involved and people defining courage in other interesting ways.

But lyrics like this is what really blows my mind

 

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I need help bro, thnanks. Glad you're here.

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ebodyknows wrote:

@RevolutionPlease

Seems like a weak gimicky jealouse response to that song that still seems to boom out of peoples cars every summer.

@epaulo13

Nice track, and appreciate the message.

Are you two familiar with illogik's rebel love hip hop?

..txs ebody, i'll check out that link.

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Appreciate it sis/bro.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueFTrwHFEs

 

 

MegB

Someone lifted my iPod this past summer, so after becoming thoroughly disgusted with commercial radio I started pawing through my stacks of CDs and found a Best of Eurythmics and a couple of world music compilations.  Quite enjoying them.

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..while in vancouver i once went to a "drum for healing" workshop facillitated by ubaka hill and later was on stage during her performance. ubaka claimes to have spent more than 40 years in the inner cities of new york.

Ubaka Hill "Remember"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxZA-pG-o4

 

Ubaka Hill in Endicott NY 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mKocN5XIA

 

 

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Pepe Danza at the World Rhythm Festival 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaSU3dwqyA

Caissa

Rush,  Test for Echo.

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Rush was elected to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Why? Undecided

(I visited the RR Hall of Fame in the early 2000s in Cleveland - nice, but I expected more)

Caissa

Because they are one of Canada's best rock groups!

MegB

Caissa wrote:

Because they are one of Canada's best rock groups!

*cough*

Sure.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Rebecca West wrote:

Caissa wrote:

Because they are one of Canada's best rock groups!

*cough*

Sure.

And Cellne Dion is one of our best female vocalists. 

Cool

There is no accounting for taste.

MegB

In a Battle of the Bands, Rush and Celine Dion would be camp followers.

Caissa

Do I diss your choice of music?Cry

 

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Geddy Lee sounds like I imagine a cat castrated with a rusty knife and no aneasthesia would sound like.

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Boom Boom wrote:

Geddy Lee sounds like I imagine a cat castrated with a rusty knife and no aneasthesia would sound like.

Which is why I compared him to Celine.

Cool

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Is "gangnam style" Psy a musician, rapper, or just a video artist? He recently apologised for his criticism of America's involvement in Viet Nam. I guess the big bucks mean more to him than personal integrity. Money mouth

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McKenna Mendelson Mainline 

Okay so I am showing my age.  They were one of my favourite TO bands in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8DOnyr318Q

 

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Yeah! Mainline! I think I still have an album by them. Saw them several times at Ottawa's Le Hibou on Sussex in the 1970s. What a great band.

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Boom Boom wrote:

Is "gangnam style" Psy a musician, rapper, or just a video artist? He recently apologised for his criticism of America's involvement in Viet Nam. I guess the big bucks mean more to him than personal integrity. Money mouth

Gangnam is the richest part of Korea were all the capitalist elite like to play and show off their wealth.  This artist is from that culture so what do you expect.

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I have their (MMM) best album - STINK. One of my favourite albums of all time - I've had it on LP, cassette, and now CD. Saw them perform it live in Ottawa. I think it's still available on Amazon and other places. I still play it once or twice a year. Fantastic.

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This country has sure produced some artsy-fartsy musicians - Celine Dion, Rush, April Whine. At least that crap is balanced by Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, Osacr Peterson, and Leonard Cohen - although Cohen has produced some crap, too. I'd put Neil Young somewhere in the centre - he's produced some great stuff, but some awful crap, too. We'e also produced whom I consider greats but aren't everyday names - Buffy St. Marie, Murray McLauchlan, and Bruce Cockburn, and a bunch  of others too. Joe Mendelson/Mendelson Joe was in a band I used to like, but I can't remember their name. Frown

 

ETA: I saw the Downchild Blues Band on CBC this year, they're really aging. I'm not familiar with their music, so can't make an assesment of them. Anyone?

ETA: And then there's Stompin' Tom....

ETA: And Ronny Hawkins and the Hawks - later formed The Band. Played with Dylan.

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Oh, and Canada released Anne Murray on to the world. Embarassed

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sknguy II

Caissa wrote:

Because they are one of Canada's best rock groups!

Compared to what was out there on AM and FM at the time... I think that they were. But, I think that Canadian Music is currently in good hands tho.

Dusted off some Boards of Canada CDs. A bit of an experimental band who can sound a bit like music-to-fold-laundry-by, but I like 'em. They're a Scottish duo who had some reoccuring fixation with Canada? Then again maybe it was a gimmic like Kiss makeup.

MegB

Caissa wrote:

Do I diss your choice of music?Cry

 

What's to diss?  Please note, I am not alone in my derision of all things Geddy Lee.

Caissa

That was the plural "your".

 

Right now I'm listening to a CBC radio story on Hallelujah.

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This thread needs some soul.

 

(second attempt at posting)

onlinediscountanvils

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:

Is "gangnam style" Psy a musician, rapper, or just a video artist? He recently apologised for his criticism of America's involvement in Viet Nam. I guess the big bucks mean more to him than personal integrity. Money mouth

Gangnam is the richest part of Korea were all the capitalist elite like to play and show off their wealth.  This artist is from that culture so what do you expect.

I expect that there's usually more to a person's identity than simply the neighbourhood in which they happened to have been raised.

His song, Gangnam Style, is actually a satire of Gangnam society and values.

[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-d... Style, Dissected: The Subversive Message Within South Korea's Music Video Sensation[/url]

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Gangnam is a tony Seoul neighborhood, and Park's "Gangnam Style" video lampoons its self-importance and ostentatious wealth, with Psy playing a clownish caricature of a Gangnam man. That alone makes it practically operatic compared to most K-Pop. But I spoke with two regular observers of Korean culture to find out what I was missing, and it turns out that the video is rich with subtle references that, along with the song itself, suggest a subtext with a surprisingly subversive message about class and wealth in contemporary South Korean society.

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One of the first things Hong pointed to in explaining the video's subtext was, believe it or not, South Korea's sky-high credit card debt rate. In 2010, the average household carried credit card debt worth a staggering 155 percent of their disposable income (for comparison, the U.S. average just before the sub-prime crisis was 138 percent). There are nearly five credit cards for every adult. South Koreans have been living on credit since the mid-1990s, first because their country's amazing growth made borrowing seem safe, and then in the late 1990s when the government encouraged private spending to climb out of the Asian financial crisis. The emphasis on heavy spending, coupled with the country's truly astounding, two-generation growth from agrarian poverty to economic powerhouse, have engendered the country with an emphasis on hard work and on aspirationalism, as well as the materialism that can sometimes follow.

Gangnam, Hong said, is a symbol of that aspect of South Korean culture. The neighborhood is the home of some of South Korea's biggest brands, as well as $84 billion of its wealth, as of 2010. That's seven percent of the entire country's GDP in an area of just 15 square miles. A place of the most conspicuous consumption, you might call it the embodiment of South Korea's one percent. "The neighborhood in Gangnam is not just a nice town or nice neighborhood. The kids that he's talking about are not Silicon Valley self-made millionaires. They're overwhelmingly trust-fund babies and princelings," he explained.

This skewering of the Gangnam life can be easy to miss for non-Korean[s].

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The video is "a satire about Gangnam itself but also it's about how people outside Gangnam pursue their dream to be one of those Gangnam residents without even realizing what it really means," Kim explained to me when I got in touch with her. Koreans "really wanted to be one of them," but she says that feeling is changing, and "Gangnam Style" captures people's ambivalence.

"Koreans have been kind of caught up in this spending to look wealthy, and Gangnam has really been the leading edge of that," Hong said. "I think a lot of what [Psy] is pointing out is how silly that is. The whole video is about him thinking he's a hotshot but then realizing he's just, you know, at a children's playground, or thinking he's playing polo or something and realizes he's on a merry-go-round."

Psy hits all the symbols of Gangnam opulence, but each turns out to be something much more modest, as if suggesting that Gangnam-style wealth is not as fabulous as it might seem. We think he's at a beach in the opening shot, but it turns out to be a sandy playground. He visits a sauna not with big-shot businessmen but with mobsters, Kim points out, and dances not in a nightclub but on a bus of middle-aged tourists. He meets his love interest in the subway. Kim thinks that Psy's strut though a parking garage, two models at his side as trash and snow fly at them, is meant as a nod to the common rap-video trope of the star walking down a red carpet covered in confetti. "I think he's pointing out the ridiculousness of the materialism," Hong said.

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None of this commentary is particularly overt, which is actually what could make "Gangnam Style" so subversive. Social commentary is just not really done in mainstream Korean pop music, Hong explained. "The most they'll do is poke fun at themselves a little bit. It's really been limited." But Psy "is really mainstreaming it, and he's doing it in a way that maybe not everybody quite realizes."

 

As for Boom Boom's question about an apology over criticism about the U.S.'s involvement in Vietnam; no, what he apologized for was the "inflammatory and inappropriate language" in the lyrics of another band's song, which he performed with them onstage at a concert in 2004. The lyrics, in reference to the Iraq War, called for the torture and deaths of not just the U.S. politicians and soldiers who were directly responsible for ordering and carrying out the war, but also their "daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law, and fathers".

onlinediscountanvils

Boom Boom wrote:
This country has sure produced some artsy-fartsy musicians - Celine Dion, Rush, April Whine.

Maybe my understanding of the phrase is different from yours, but I've never thought of any of those examples as particularly "artsy-fartsy".

onlinediscountanvils

sknguy II wrote:

Caissa wrote:

Because they are one of Canada's best rock groups!

Compared to what was out there on AM and FM at the time... I think that they were. But, I think that Canadian Music is currently in good hands tho.

I agree with you on both points.

 

sknguy II wrote:
Dusted off some Boards of Canada CDs. A bit of an experimental band who can sound a bit like music-to-fold-laundry-by, but I like 'em. They're a Scottish duo who had some reoccuring fixation with Canada? Then again maybe it was a gimmic like Kiss makeup.

Great band. Music Has the Right to Children is such a beautiful album. I don't think the Canada thing is a gimmick, although I think the fixation was mainly focused on an appreciation for the documentaries of the National Film Board.

onlinediscountanvils

Boom Boom wrote:

onlinediscountanvils wrote:

 

As for Boom Boom's question about an apology over criticism about the U.S.'s involvement in Vietnam; no, what he apologized for was the "inflammatory and inappropriate language" in the lyrics of another band's song, which he performed with them onstage at a concert in 2004. The lyrics, in reference to the Iraq War, called for the torture and deaths of not just the U.S. politicians and soldiers who were directly responsible for ordering and carrying out the war, but also their "daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law, and fathers".

That's not what was reported on CNN. Although, how old is he? Was he even alive during the Viet Nam war? Maybe he was post-critical, as there's still people highly critical today of America's involvement in Viet Nam.

 

He's 34.

The only apology I've heard about was the one I mentioned above. [url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/07/showbiz/psy-apology-irpt/index.html]This CNN story[/url] mentions the lyrics about the Iraq War, but doesn't say anything about any comments on Vietnam.

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Just did a google - you're right, no mention of Viet Nam at all.

 

ETA: took ten minutes for this page to load.

sknguy II

onlinediscountanvils wrote:

...I think the fixation was mainly focused on an appreciation for the documentaries of the National Film Board.

Ah, I remember hearing that.

Was comparing the 1975 greatest hits album History from America with their 1972 self titled album. The only two or their albums I own. And I noticed that of the songs that appear one both albums the songs on their '72 America album have a little more character. The studio acoustics can be heard a bit more on the '72 album. The 2 tracks that are on their greatest hits album though sound just a tad flat in comparison. Can only assume there was some remastering done to the '75 greatest hits compilation. Was of pre-teen age in the early seventies and just loved America. What a cynical time in history that seemed to a kid. Horse with no Name... pretty good for three military brats.Smile

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REBEL DIAZ - CRAAZY Ft. C_RAYZ WALZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y2j90wiK-fw#!

A lot of times when you question the system we live in, the system itself will be quick to discredit you, or even worse label you as Craazy. What's really Craazy is perhaps the conditions our communities live under and the way the government controls us. Now thats Craazy.

sknguy II

Neil Young was being picked on a couple pages back. Kinda feelin sorry for him. Here's the Chromatic's take on Young's "Into The Black". And... here's Neil Young on Neil Young. Can't wait for the Glee version.

onlinediscountanvils

I love that Chromatics' cover.

 

Yo La Tengo's [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BauiMlA0VVo#at=43...

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I'd apperciate it if folks don't try to pigeon0hole me.

sknguy II

I did recognize the Hava Naquila song RP. I have no idea how or when that song decided to take up residency in some of my brain cells though, blast it anyway....

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