MMIWG issues final report

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Tanya Talaga: Blowback to the word genocide proves the national inquiry report was right

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2019/06/11/blowback-to-the-word-genocide-proves-the-national-inquiry-report-was-right.html

Heidi Matthews: What the debate around Indigenous genocide says about Canada

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/what-the-debate-around-indigenous-genoci...

 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Good article from Doug Cuthand:

It’s a shame that the reporting on this important report got stuck on one word and became defensive rather than proactive. According to the 1948 convention, Canada is guilty of committing genocide against the Indigenous people.

Now let’s move on and make changes. We have the blueprints of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, the report submitted by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and this latest report. Hopefully this is the last report for a while, and we get on with the job of implementing the recommendations.

https://thestarphoenix.com/opinion/columnists/cuthand-genocide-is-a-loaded-word

Pondering

This is not thread drift if the point is to reduce the numbers of missing and murdered indigenous women. 

MMIWG’s findings on ‘man camps’ are a good place for government to get started.https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/mmiwgs-findings-on-man-camps-are-a-good-place-for-government-to-get-started/

I agree genocide is the appropriate word to use and that it is on-going. But is the point to create drama or have fewer missing and murdered indigenous women? 

Man camps are not off topic. They have been identified by the report as a causal factor. 

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There’s a specific thread now, Pondering, and pretty much everyone but you feels it’s drift. Maybe respect that?

Pondering

Timebandit wrote:

There’s a specific thread now, Pondering, and pretty much everyone but you feels it’s drift. Maybe respect that?

The title indicates this thread is about MMIWG issues final report. A chapter of the report addresses man camps. Are there any other chapters that would be thread drift or just this one? 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Or you could just go where everyone else is having the conversation you’re attempting to have here. 

Pondering

I didn't see the other thread because I had left this open in my browser to respond. It is not until I hit "active topics" after posting that I saw the other thread.

Since hitting active topics I have read the other thread. There is no mention of the MMIWG report. It's all indignation and theoretical pearl clutching over the rights of mainly white men in work camps set up by mining corporations. It is certainly not the discussion I am trying to have here. The one that focuses on the safety of indigenous women.

You know what. Nevermind. I am starting a new thread based on what I want to talk about. I hope others will want to discuss the same things from the same perspective. 

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An appeal to all political leaders

Tuesday, June 11, 2019

Our Women and Girls are Sacred / Nos femmes et nos filles sont sacrées

The National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls heard the truths of many families and survivors of violence. We call on all political leaders to accept their truths and move forward to implement our Calls for Justice. We further call on all political leaders to work together to create and implement a National Action Plan with Indigenous peoples at the table to address violence against Indigenous women, girls, and 2SLGBTQQIA people. With political will, good work can begin immediately. Together, let‘s make meaningful change to ensure a safe future for Indigenous women, girls and 2SLGBTQQIA people in Canada. 

https://www.mmiwg-ffada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Appeal-to-Leaders_Statement_11062019ENG.pdf

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I don't recall hearing anything about 2SLGBTQQIA when the Commission was formed.  Is this a late addition?  Are gay men also part of the genocide?

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Mr. Magoo wrote:

I don't recall hearing anything about 2SLGBTQQIA when the Commission was formed.  Is this a late addition?  Are gay men also part of the genocide?

An excellent question.  My own (admittedly cynical) take is that, after being lambasted by dozens of Indigenous leaders and activitsts for almost two years (they wanted the Govt to disband them, remember??), the remaining Commissioners decided to increase the appeal of the report by expanding the understanding of the group.  

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Timebandit wrote:

Good article from Doug Cuthand:

It’s a shame that the reporting on this important report got stuck on one word and became defensive rather than proactive. According to the 1948 convention, Canada is guilty of committing genocide against the Indigenous people.

Now let’s move on and make changes. We have the blueprints of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, the report submitted by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and this latest report. Hopefully this is the last report for a while, and we get on with the job of implementing the recommendations.

https://thestarphoenix.com/opinion/columnists/cuthand-genocide-is-a-loaded-word

Thank you, Timebandit. Very good read and I agree.

Pondering

It seems to me the word genocide has dominated our discussions of the report.  The section of the report on man camps was considered off topic in this thread. The new thread on it doesn't focus on the safety of indigenous women. 

Lest we forget this isn't about the past. It's about the continued fate of indigenous women, It is about the current dangers they face. They are afraid now. 

Maybe I'm being unfair but it feels like it is being intellectualized. I am literally weeping in empathy and sympathy for what these missing and murdered women experienced and for the families left behind in never-ending sorrow. For the young girls right now hitch-hiking to the nearest town to flirt and get drunk with young men who have money while they dream of one who will fall in love. For the ones who are pregnant right now who don't know what to do other than put one foot in front of the other. For the children being abused right now and who will be abused tonight. For the ones who are thinking right now that if they have to do it they might as well get paid. For some that is the choice. Stay home and be abused or go out and get paid to be abused. Which would you choose? 

This report has highlighted the crimes against First Nations but it has also shone a light on the relationship between violence and poverty.

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