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2016 presidential election campaign 2

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Trump Picks Former Goldman Partner And Soros Employee As Finance ChairmanSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 05/05/2016 - 16:34

In an oddly ironic twist, today Donald Trump announced that he has picked as chairman of his newly launched fundraising operation none other than a former employee of the bank he has repeatedly criticized in the past, and which he used as a foil to criticize Ted Cruz: Goldman Sachs.   In addition to Goldman, Mnuchin also worked for Soros previously

...oddly ironic twist? What exactly does Trump actually stand for, why is he running...all very suspicious to me!
Who really is behind this guy!
Let's not pretend that these people are honest, or even in control! How many Obama's and Trudeaus do we need to run through before this gets through to us?

 

 

6079_Smith_W

 

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"No, Donald Trump is not going to be president, or invade Mexico, or deport all immigrants, or disenfranchise women voters, or drop nuclear bombs in Syria and Iraq.

What he almost certainly is going to do, though, is trigger an enormous disruption of the Republican Party, or even its breakup.

In the primaries so far, he has averaged about 40 per cent of the Republican vote. So, a majority of his own party's members have so far opposed him.

And does anyone seriously believe Trump has any appeal across party lines?

This man is not Ronald Reagan. "Trump Democrats" might exist, but we haven't seen them in any great numbers yet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-republican-party-implosion-1.3564282

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Anti-Donald Trump Republicans are starting to consider whether their opposition to a Trump presidency is so strong that they would be prepared to fight him in the general election - even if that means helping put an avowed enemy, Hillary Clinton, in the Oval Office.

One strategy under discussion is to focus on helping down-ballot GOP candidates while sitting out the presidential race under the belief that Trump will lose to Clinton no matter what. A more drastic and difficult option: rallying support for a third-party candidate who could uphold traditional Republican positions but would almost certainly steal votes from Trump.

"You have to bet on sanity," said Republican Party strategist Stuart Stevens, who helped lead the campaign of 2012 nominee Mitt Romney.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/im-with-her-antitrump-republican...

josh
NDPP

Strange Bedfellows: The Bizarre Coalition of Kochs, Neocons and Democrats Allied Against Trump and His #FU Voters

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/strange-bedfellows-the-bizarre-co...

"The strange bedfellows publicly aligned against Donald Trump for President include..."

NDPP

Voting For Empire is the Sole Option For Democrats and Republicans

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Voting-for-Empire-is-the-S-by-Peter-Phi...

"The presidential primaries offer a single choice for both Democrats and Republicans to vote for empire and permanent war. This year's entertainment spectacle, what we call democratic elections, is a particularly gross circus of meaninglessness, misinformation, sound bites and lies.

Both parties are in support of the continuation of the US/NATO global empire of permanent war and the protection of the capital of the global 1%..."

 

bekayne

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-sabin/the-newly-emboldened-americ...?

But what I didn’t understand until this election, until I started paying closer attention to the voices of ordinary Americans, is how terrifying it is to read what some of them write on public forums, or to hear them say out loud what they really think about other Americans. The racists and bigots of America have always been out there. There have always been hideous trolls on the Internet. But now they are emboldened in a big way by the bellicose Donald Trump. He’s opened Pandora’s box, and nobody can shut it.

NorthReport

Too bad Clinton just can't tell the truth. It's over for the coal industry and full steam ahead for the pipelines to exploit the oil and gas deposits.  Wink

NorthReport
NorthReport

Sanders wins again and again and again. Too bad he has such a shit campaign team otherwise he might have won the nomination. 

NDPP

CrossTalk: Social Justice

https://youtu.be/_n2BvEqvJlo

"The question of social justice: As America's two major parties move towards anointing their presidential nominees, there is a growing sense of disaffection and even insurrection among voters. And this has set the business-as-usual political and financial elites into a panic..."

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Sanders didn't stand a chance...Money is what wins elections. But in their infinite wisdom,Americans predictably,rallied against a populist for the people candidate by rallying around a faux populist D-list celebrity. This orange imbecile will probably stuff his appointments with the likes of Kid Rock,Steven Segal and Victoria Jackson. If I was American,I'd be embarrassed.

But Orange Il Duce and America deserve each other. Best of luck to them.

NDPP

And before he goes let us remember this one...

Thank You Barack Obama For Showing Us That Peace is War

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/11/thank-you-barack-obama-for-showin...

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..WOW!

The Empire Files: Abby Martin Exposes What Hillary Clinton Really Represents

Digging deep into Hillary's connections to Wall Street, Abby Martin reveals how the Clinton's multi-million-dollar political machine operates.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NorthReport wrote:

Sanders wins again and again and again. Too bad he has such a shit campaign team otherwise he might have won the nomination. 

You mean like Clinton's team?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV_PLCC6jeI

NorthReport

Too bad Biden has such an inflated ego of himself. If Warren was the presidential candidate and Biden remained as her VP candidate, now you're talking! But is there no limit on number of VP terms one person can have?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/politics/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-presid...

NorthReport

I suppose the ideal ticket would comprise of one male, one female, one straight, one gay, one brown skined, one black skinned, one from the South, one from the North, so who is Trump gonna pick to run with him? 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

NorthReport wrote:

I suppose the ideal ticket would comprise of one male, one female, one straight, one gay, one brown skined, one black skinned, one from the South, one from the North, so who is Trump gonna pick to run with him? 

Omarosa.

josh

A recording obtained by The Washington Post captures what New York reporters and editors who covered Trump's early career experienced in the 1970s, '80s and '90s: calls from Trump's Manhattan office that resulted in conversations with "John Miller" or "John Barron" — public-relations men who sound precisely like Trump himself — who indeed are Trump, masquerading as an unusually helpful and boastful advocate for himself, according to the journalists and several of Trump's top aides. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/20...

 

NorthReport

February national polls are the best you get until August

My general sense of the current state of the race is that Democrats are still in the midst of their nomination process, while Republicans are coming together around their nominee. Either of these dynamics would be enough for polls to become less accurate – and to favor the candidate whose nomination is settled. If true, then we might expect numbers to move back toward Clinton after the June 7th primaries. Also possible, though less likely, is continued movement toward Trump.

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/05/22/february-national-polls-are-the...

NorthReport

These current polls showing it is nip and tuck betweeen Trump and Clinton (unfortunately Clinton's negatives are huge) may give Sanders some actual leverage before the real dogfight between Clinton and Trump begins. 

Conventional Wisdom: Sanders Refuses To Play Nice

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/conventional-wisdom-sanders-refuses-...

NorthReport

Where is Ralph Nader when you need him! Too bad. If Sanders was a bit younger he might have won this 2016 presidential election debacle.

Americans’ Distaste For Both Trump And Clinton Is Record-Breaking

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-an...

NorthReport

Unfortunately many of them might vote for Trump.

The Hidden Importance Of The Sanders Voter

Many of them are independents, and they could be key to Clinton’s general election success.

According to the most recent YouGov poll, 61 percent of Sanders voters have an unfavorable view of Clinton, against just 38 percent with a favorable one. YouGov has been tracking these numbers for several months,1 and they’ve gradually gotten worse for Clinton:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-hidden-importance-of-the-bernie-...

NorthReport

If Trudeau can be treated like a hero in some people's minds for elbowing a female opposition MP in the breast in Canada, imagine how Trump might do attacking Clinton in the USA. Misogyny is alive and well in both countries.  Frown

RNC Spox: Trump 'Very Clear' We're Going With 'Aggressive' Clinton Attacks

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sean-spicer-donald-trump-clinton-a...

Aristotleded24

[url=http://commondreams.org/news/2016/05/23/should-dems-be-freaking-out-firs... and Gentlemen, President Donald Trump:[/url]

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After weeks of polls showing Donald Trump gaining on Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton's once sizable lead, for the first time on Monday, Real Clear Politics recorded the New York billionaire ahead in the national polling average.

For the period between May 13-19, the presumptive Republican nominee polled ahead of Clinton by a national average of 0.2 points.

The new figure places the upcoming presidential contest in stark new light. 

That national average was posted on the heels of two separate national polls which showed the two running neck-and-neck: A Washington Post/ ABC News survey released Sunday has the two in a "statistical dead heat" with Trump ahead of Clinton 46 percent to 44 percent among registered voters; while a survey from NBC News/ Wall Street Journal, also Sunday, recorded Clinton polling ahead of Trump 46 to 43 percent.

Hopefully Clinton's popularity craters enough in the two weeks until California that will encourage people to vote for Sanders in droves. Failing that, and assuming the superdelegates back Clinton, that's exactly how this will play out.

josh

Trump has wrapped up his nomination.  Once the Democratic nomination is decided, the numbers will change.  The key is Trump's number.  46 is his high, while Clinton has been over 50 several times.

NorthReport

Paul Ryan probably wants Trump to lose to ensure Trump does not run in 2020. A lot depends on Sanders now and not convinced yet Ryan is going to get his wish, as Trump's appeal has been underestimated from the beginning.

josh

Sanders isn't prepared to surrender just yet, but the hyperventilation of some Clinton supporters and the worry that he could spoil her chances are completely unfounded. In fact, close attention to his recent moves reveals that Sanders is carefully trying to thread the needle of acknowledging that Clinton is the nominee while also securing a greater voice for his progressive politics in the Democratic Party, particularly by making a push to reshape the Democratic National Committee and the party platform, which will be hammered out in Philadelphia. 

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/133676/bernie-might-helping-not-hurting-...

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

As I posted a few days ago, I've been thinking that HRC would eventually win over Trump, but recent polls make it hard to maintain that position. I find this analysis by Cenk Uygur quite persuasive.

Aristotleded24

josh wrote:
Trump has wrapped up his nomination.  Once the Democratic nomination is decided, the numbers will change.  The key is Trump's number.  46 is his high, while Clinton has been over 50 several times.

That was a long time ago. The trend line of her support is clearly dropping, and whenever she has to run in a contest where she can realistically lose, her popular support always drops. If you're aware of an incident where her popular support has ever bottomed out and come back up. please let me know. Otherwise, your contention that Clinton will inevitably rise in popular support is wishful thinking.

I also find it funny that people who claimed Clinton would lead based on the massive polling leads she held a year ago are suddenly silent about these latest polls coming out that show her losing to Trump.

I also agree that mathematically at least, Clinton has close to secured the nomination after Pennsylvania. Normally at this point the challenger's campaign would go into a tailspin and lose momentum. So why in this case, given the near-impossible math, is Bernie still winning state primaries and caucuses?

josh

Aristotleded24 wrote:

josh wrote:
Trump has wrapped up his nomination.  Once the Democratic nomination is decided, the numbers will change.  The key is Trump's number.  46 is his high, while Clinton has been over 50 several times.

That was a long time ago. The trend line of her support is clearly dropping, and whenever she has to run in a contest where she can realistically lose, her popular support always drops. If you're aware of an incident where her popular support has ever bottomed out and come back up. please let me know. Otherwise, your contention that Clinton will inevitably rise in popular support is wishful thinking.

I also find it funny that people who claimed Clinton would lead based on the massive polling leads she held a year ago are suddenly silent about these latest polls coming out that show her losing to Trump.

I also agree that mathematically at least, Clinton has close to secured the nomination after Pennsylvania. Normally at this point the challenger's campaign would go into a tailspin and lose momentum. So why in this case, given the near-impossible math, is Bernie still winning state primaries and caucuses?

In her first senate race, she went from leading to even, to winning by 12 points.

Candidates losing late primaries after having all but officially clinching the nomination is not novel.

Aristotleded24

josh wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

josh wrote:
Trump has wrapped up his nomination.  Once the Democratic nomination is decided, the numbers will change.  The key is Trump's number.  46 is his high, while Clinton has been over 50 several times.

That was a long time ago. The trend line of her support is clearly dropping, and whenever she has to run in a contest where she can realistically lose, her popular support always drops. If you're aware of an incident where her popular support has ever bottomed out and come back up. please let me know. Otherwise, your contention that Clinton will inevitably rise in popular support is wishful thinking.

I also find it funny that people who claimed Clinton would lead based on the massive polling leads she held a year ago are suddenly silent about these latest polls coming out that show her losing to Trump.

I also agree that mathematically at least, Clinton has close to secured the nomination after Pennsylvania. Normally at this point the challenger's campaign would go into a tailspin and lose momentum. So why in this case, given the near-impossible math, is Bernie still winning state primaries and caucuses?

In her first senate race, she went from leading to even, to winning by 12 points.

It's not that hard for a Democratic candidate to win a Senate race in New York state, especially in the afterglow of Bill Clinton's popularity. So much more has come out about the Clintons that has since hurt their public image, and that was well before Clinton expressing Bush-like positions on issues like gay marraige and voting for the second Iraq war.

josh

Too bad the election can't be moved to Canada.

http://abacusdata.ca/how-would-trump-do-in-canada-really-badly/ 

NDPP

Clinton and Trump: Nuclearized Or Lobotomized?  -  by James Petras

http://www.unz.com/jpetras/clinton-and-trump-nuclearized-or-lobotomized/

"Over half the US electorate views the two leading candidates for the 2016 Presidential elections with horror and disdain.."

Aristotleded24

josh wrote:

Sanders isn't prepared to surrender just yet, but the hyperventilation of some Clinton supporters and the worry that he could spoil her chances are completely unfounded. In fact, close attention to his recent moves reveals that Sanders is carefully trying to thread the needle of acknowledging that Clinton is the nominee while also securing a greater voice for his progressive politics in the Democratic Party, particularly by making a push to reshape the Democratic National Committee and the party platform, which will be hammered out in Philadelphia. 

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/133676/bernie-might-helping-not-hurting-...

This contradicts the tone that is being sent by both camps. Sanders has ramped up his attacks on the Democratic establishment, notably by asking that DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz be replaced. On the Clinton side, you have her arrogantly insisting that Bernie voters are going to flock to her just because, and she is not even pretending to try and win them over. Additionally, you have her camp blaming Sanders supporters for "violence" in Nevada. These moves will not only strengthen the resolve of the Bernie or Bust crowd, but may very well push more people in that direction.

NDPP

Silencing America as it Prepares For War  -  by John Pilger

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/27/silencing-america-as-it-prepares-...

"...Neither Hillary Clinton nor Bernie Sanders has mentioned any of this."

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

I prefer Sanders but I'm prepared to vote for Clinton; if only to oppose Trump.

Anybody got a more "realistic plan" than that? 

NDPP

No surprise. Wasn't that always the 'realistic plan' envisaged for Sanders supporters?

Clinton's Hawk-In-Waiting

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/

"If Hillary wins the White House, expect Victoria Nuland to be at her side."

NDPP

American Campaign Gurus Now Gleaning Lessons From Liberals

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/05/28/american-campaign-gurus-now-gleaning-less...

"Clinton, Sanders digital strategists getting 2015 intelligence in Winnipeg. The steady, cross-border traffic between the Trudeau Liberals and the US Democrats is making itself felt at the Liberal Convention in Winnipeg this weekend..."

Aristotleded24

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
I prefer Sanders but I'm prepared to vote for Clinton; if only to oppose Trump.

Anybody got a more "realistic plan" than that?

How is it acceptable to support a candidate who, among other things, is a staunch advocate for war, who used racism in her primary campaigin against Obama in 2008, and who lied about having to duck under sniper fire in Bosnia when there was clear video footage showing that statement to be false?

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

I prefer Sanders but I'm prepared to vote for Clinton; if only to oppose Trump.

Anybody got a more "realistic plan" than that? 

I agree with you, and so does Noam Chomsky.

josh

The Libertarians held their convention this weekend. This guy fell short.

http://m.imgur.com/yvrsMQW?r

NDPP

The New York Times (And Clinton Campaign's) Abject Cowardice on Israel  -  by Glenn Greenwald

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37168-the-new-york-timess...

"The cowardice of the NYT regarding Israel is matched only by the Clinton campaign's. Clinton has repeatedly vowed to move the US closer to Israel but also to its Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Pandering to Israel - vowing blind support for its government - is a vile centerpiece of her campaign..."

The "Abject Cowardice on Israel" is a widespread phenomenon not restricted to US politicians only as most here well know.

NorthReport

There is quite a devastating article in tonite's WSJ online saying Clinton may not be the nominee written by a former Bill Clinton strategist

One scenario is that Biden will be asked to run with possibly Warren as his running mate

There appears to be growing concern within Democratic poobahs that Clintons negatives are just too high for her to win

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Things do not look good for Clinton now.

NorthReport

Clinton had the democratic nomination locked up years ago. It's just Trump she has to worry about now. 

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Anti-Hillary may be stronger than Anti-Trump.

josh
NorthReport

Trump is paying the price for attacking the judge

Aristotleded24

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNo4i49DoFY]This election fiasco was predicted over 20 years ago[/url]

NDPP

CrossTalk: Dumbed Down

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/345015-american-voters-presidential-e...

"It is a truism that American voters are far more interested in domestic issues during a presidential election. And this suits the foreign policy establishment just fine..."

CrossTalking with Patrick Henningsen, Stephen Zunes and Daniel Faraci

Much is absolutely applicable to Canada too.

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