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Donald Trump’s Eternal Feud With Blackness

In a presidency defined by its unpredictability, one of the few constants is the president’s eagerness to attack black people for failing to show deference.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/donald-trump-lavar-...

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Cody87

Michael Moriarity wrote:

I've never seen such even-handed political commentary. This is truly an authentic look at the inside lives of "Trump voters" :)

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It's surely a (very funny) parody, painted with a broad brush.

What's the part that you think is inaccurate, though?  Tell us how Trumpies really feel about taxing the rich, or health care coverage, or golf games and tweets, or net neutrality... or "cucks" and "snowflakes"?  I, for one, would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised.

Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

It's surely a (very funny) parody, painted with a broad brush.

What's the part that you think is inaccurate, though?  Tell us how Trumpies really feel about taxing the rich, or health care coverage, or golf games and tweets, or net neutrality... or "cucks" and "snowflakes"?  I, for one, would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised.

Oh no, you misunderstand me. I've eavesdropped on Trump supporters and this is exactly what they sound like. They see the issues in precisely the same way as Tom Tomorrow has presented them, and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

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and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

Knowingly.  Unknowingly.  Same difference.

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

he almost looks normal.

Just a regular looking pasty-white businessman now.

"Make America Normal Again"

Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

Knowingly.  Unknowingly.  Same difference.

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

Not the same difference. As presented in the comic, the "Trump supporters" are completely aware of how they are acting against their own interests and are doing it anyway. You don't need to know what someone's real interests are to know what it's not.

For example, an equally ridiculous satire would be a comic of a chain smoker who's just smoking and smoking, and someone says "hey why do you smoke 5 packs a day" and they say "because I want to spend 3 months in my 40's dying a painful death from lung cancer!" You don't need to know why that person smokes to know that it's not because they want to die of lung cancer. Maybe they don't believe it will happen to them, maybe they don't really care, maybe they have other priorities, maybe they believe there will be a cure by the time it's relevant. But you can be confident that they aren't putting positive priority on the lung cancer.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Cody87 wrote:

But you can be confident that they aren't putting positive priority on the lung cancer.

But they do put a positive priority on libtard tears, even at the expense of their own interests. Which was kind of the point of the cartoon. Sorry you didn't like it.

Doug Woodard

Anyone who is wondering why a lot of Americans wanted to blow up the system and vote for Trump should re-familiarize themselves with the mortgage crime that went on for years. And that was just one of their problems:

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2016/12/how-to-steal-house-wind-up...

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2017/01/how-to-steal-house-pitch.html

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2017/01/when-youre-stealing-houses...

Now we're told that the recently passed U.S. tax bill will result in millions of Americans losing their health insurance coverage. If I thought that Americans would now correctly identify the sources of their problems and take constructive action, I'd be a lot happier than I am. But I suspect that Steve Bannon is happy.

Rev Pesky

From Mr. Magoo:

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

This was a fair question, Cody87, and you failed to answer it, or even address it.

No need to be coy. Just tell us what Trump supporters believe their best interests to be. 'Cause right now it's pretty hard to tell. Every time Trump changes direction, his supporters change direction. Trump says one thing, and his support goes around nodding their heads in agreement, and when he says the complete opposite five minutes later, his support continues going around nodding their agreement.

Rev Pesky

From Doug Woodward:

Anyone who is wondering why a lot of Americans wanted to blow up the system and vote for Trump should re-familiarize themselves with the mortgage crime that went on for years.

I can understand the 'I want to blow up the system' all right. What I don't understand is why the result of that would be a vote for Trump, and/or the Republican party?

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I think because the Democrats currently are tied to the failed system in most voters minds. I am looking forward to the 2020 election cycle.  I imagine there will be serious upheaval in both parties.

josh

The "President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd claims.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trump-lawyer-claims-the-president-cannot-obstruct-justice-2514742663.html

"If a President does it, it's not illegal."

Richard Nixon

voice of the damned

Pogo wrote:

I think because the Democrats currently are tied to the failed system in most voters minds. I am looking forward to the 2020 election cycle.  I imagine there will be serious upheaval in both parties.

My guess is the opposite. Extremism in a right-wing political party usually works to cement support for the centre. By 2020, there will be very little market for "Both parties are equally bad, we need to shake up the whole system." Previously wavering or apathetic Democrats will be so upset about Trump, they'll vote for anyone the Democrats put forward.

(This is assuming that Trump is still the nominee in 2020.)

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I agree to a point.  (I was kind of looking backwards I guess)  However, even if the next election is the Democrats to lose, they have shown that they are capable of losing it.

voice of the damned

Pogo wrote:

I agree to a point.  (I was kind of looking backwards I guess)  However, even if the next election is the Democrats to lose, they have shown that they are capable of losing it.

Yeah, I wasn't neccessarily predicting a Democratic victory, just that, to the extent any of the opposition parties benefit from the Trump gong-show, it will be them, not the left-wing groups or Democratic insurgencies.

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The next nomination battle will be a test. Are progressives any smarter after what was in reality only a trial run? Will the Democrat establishment exert control - or perhaps overplay its hand?  Over on the Republican side how will Bannon drain the swamp campaign play out? will Trump run? Is there enough Republicans left to rally around a moderate?

Cody87

Rev Pesky wrote:

From Mr. Magoo:

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

This was a fair question, Cody87, and you failed to answer it, or even address it.

No need to be coy. Just tell us what Trump supporters believe their best interests to be. 'Cause right now it's pretty hard to tell. Every time Trump changes direction, his supporters change direction. Trump says one thing, and his support goes around nodding their heads in agreement, and when he says the complete opposite five minutes later, his support continues going around nodding their agreement.

I absolutely did address it. I argued that you don't need to know what those interests are to know what they aren't. The question completely misses the point, and responding to it would just give Magoo the chance to obfusticate and distract as you are attempting to do now.

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Will Trump's lows ever hit rock bottom?

A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes: Our view

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/12/trump-lows-ever-hit-ro...

josh

As Durbin explained how deal would impact ppl from Haiti, Trump said, "Haiti? Why do we want people from Haiti here?" Then they got Africa. 'Why do we want these people from all these shithole countries here? We should have more people from places like Norway."

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/11/16880750/trump-immigrants-shithole-countries-norway

NDPP

Trump's 'S***t-Hole Comment Encapsulates America's Perpetually Racist Foreign Policy  -  by Danielle Ryan

"The true s***thole country we should all be talking about is actually Russia'...in liberal media circles, racism  and xenophobia are absolutely fine - that is, if Russians are the target."

https://on.rt.com/8wur

ps 

https://twitter.com/RBrulin/status/951645611383820288

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in liberal media circles, racism  and xenophobia are absolutely fine - that is, if Russians are the target.

"Nobody likes me.  Everybody hates me.  Guess I'll go eat worms."

+1 for making this about a country Trump didn't even mention.

JKR

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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in liberal media circles, racism  and xenophobia are absolutely fine - that is, if Russians are the target.

"Nobody likes me.  Everybody hates me.  Guess I'll go eat worms."

+1 for making this about a country Trump didn't even mention.

It is interesting that RT (and NDPP) are using Trump's idiotic and reprehensible "shithole" remark to deflect criticism onto the US Democratic Party. I'm surprised Hillary Clinton wasn't also blamed.

NDPP

Trump's Racist Comments Trigger International Condemnation

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/01/13/inte-j13.html

"Under Obama, at least 2.5 million people were deported - at least 1,000 per day - particularly from Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. If Hillary Clinton had been elected in 2016, the brutal persecution of so-called 'illegal' immigrants would have continued unabated.

Trump is the noxious expression of the decline and decay of American capitalism and its ruling class. The presence at the pinnacle of state power of an outright racist, who gives open and crude expression to the reactionary content of US foreign and domestic policy, undermines the ability of American imperialism to cloak its aggression and plunder around the world in the mantle of 'democracy' and 'human rights..."

 

Lazy Liberals and 'The Trump Effect'

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/12/lazy-liberals-and-the-trump-effect/

"Trump is a great distraction...It is a richly bipartisan wicknedness."

voice of the damned

Counterpunch accused the Democrats of:

passing a health care reform that only the big insurance and drug companies could love

So if Obamacare was so unpopular, I guess no one signed up for it?

 lecturing poor Black people on their own supposed personal responsibility for their own poverty

And of course, the Obama years were noted for the huge swing of black voters over to the Green party, in response to the outrageous racism of the Democrats.

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Trump's Racist Comments Trigger International Condemnation

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/01/13/inte-j13.html

"Under Obama, at least 2.5 million people were deported - at least 1,000 per day - particularly from Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. If Hillary Clinton had been elected in 2016, the brutal persecution of so-called 'illegal' immigrants would have continued unabated.

Trump is the noxious expression of the decline and decay of American capitalism and its ruling class. The presence at the pinnacle of state power of an outright racist, who gives open and crude expression to the reactionary content of US foreign and domestic policy, undermines the ability of American imperialism to cloak its aggression and plunder around the world in the mantle of 'democracy' and 'human rights..."

 

Lazy Liberals and 'The Trump Effect'

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/12/lazy-liberals-and-the-trump-effect/

"Trump is a great distraction...It is a richly bipartisan wicknedness."

 

So when Trump does something wrong we shouldn't blame him or his supporters but instead we should blame some of those who oppose him like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and the Democrats?!?!

It seems that many people who support Trump because he opposes the Democrats can't stand it that the very stable genius is making the Democrats look great by comparison. It seems that Trump supporters like those from RT are now stuck in a shithole of their own making.

NDPP

Trump's Overt Racism Stuns The World (podcast)

https://sptnkne.ws/g2FW

"Brian Becker and John Kiriakou are joined by Dr Gerald Horne, a professor of history and the University of Houston..."

 

From Haiti To Africa, US Owes More Than A Trump Apology (and vid)

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:20901:From-Haiti-to-Africa%2C-US-Owes-Mo...

"There's a danger here of trying to isolate this as Trumpism...Trump is a mirror and Trump is an accurate mirror of what is wrong with world leadership..."

NDPP

"Liberals faux outrage about Trump's 'shithole' comment is over form rather than content: he refuses to learn the art of conversing in the politically correct and human rights language that masks the wholesale plunder and destruction of our 'shithole' countries by his liberal peers."

https://twitter.com/amalsaad_lb/status/952070820645560320

voice of the damned

So, if Harper had said he didn't want any more immigrants from "shithole" countries, the Canadian left would just shrug that off with "Oh come on, saying something like that is pretty minor compared to how awful Canada's overall foreign policy is"?

JKR

NDPP wrote:

"Liberals faux outrage about Trump's 'shithole' comment is over form rather than content: he refuses to learn the art of conversing in the politically correct and human rights language that masks the wholesale plunder and destruction of our 'shithole' countries by his liberal peers."

https://twitter.com/amalsaad_lb/status/952070820645560320

 

It seems that some people are getting very upset that Trump is turning out to be the worst president in American history so Liberals are gaining greatly in popularity. It's hard to believe that Trump boosters on the left didn't see this coming when they supported Trump over Hillary!

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josh

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Cody87

bekayne wrote:

Hahaha that's so easy to read in his voice too xD

Cody87

voice of the damned wrote:

So if Obamacare was so unpopular, I guess no one signed up for it?

 

I'm not well booked on this one, but wasn't there a $2000/year fine for not signing up for it? If people are coerced to sign up for it, like for auto insurance, than you can't gauge popularity by enrollment.

josh

The autocratic leader lies and then falsely charges his opponents with lying. He politicizes institutions that are supposed to be free of politics by falsely accusing his foes of politicizing them. He victimizes others by falsely claiming they are victimizing him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nunes-paves-trumps-road-to-autocracy/2018/02/04/856a6a8a-0860-11e8-b48c-b07fea957bd5_story.html?utm_term=.0b050959e9c9

josh
JKR

Well, Vlad Putin and Bibi Netanyahu might disagree.

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