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Donald Trump’s Eternal Feud With Blackness

In a presidency defined by its unpredictability, one of the few constants is the president’s eagerness to attack black people for failing to show deference.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/donald-trump-lavar-...

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Cody87

Michael Moriarity wrote:

I've never seen such even-handed political commentary. This is truly an authentic look at the inside lives of "Trump voters" :)

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

It's surely a (very funny) parody, painted with a broad brush.

What's the part that you think is inaccurate, though?  Tell us how Trumpies really feel about taxing the rich, or health care coverage, or golf games and tweets, or net neutrality... or "cucks" and "snowflakes"?  I, for one, would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised.

Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

It's surely a (very funny) parody, painted with a broad brush.

What's the part that you think is inaccurate, though?  Tell us how Trumpies really feel about taxing the rich, or health care coverage, or golf games and tweets, or net neutrality... or "cucks" and "snowflakes"?  I, for one, would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised.

Oh no, you misunderstand me. I've eavesdropped on Trump supporters and this is exactly what they sound like. They see the issues in precisely the same way as Tom Tomorrow has presented them, and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

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and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

Knowingly.  Unknowingly.  Same difference.

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

he almost looks normal.

Just a regular looking pasty-white businessman now.

"Make America Normal Again"

Cody87

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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and love to talk about how wonderful it is to knowingly vote against their own interests.

Knowingly.  Unknowingly.  Same difference.

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

Not the same difference. As presented in the comic, the "Trump supporters" are completely aware of how they are acting against their own interests and are doing it anyway. You don't need to know what someone's real interests are to know what it's not.

For example, an equally ridiculous satire would be a comic of a chain smoker who's just smoking and smoking, and someone says "hey why do you smoke 5 packs a day" and they say "because I want to spend 3 months in my 40's dying a painful death from lung cancer!" You don't need to know why that person smokes to know that it's not because they want to die of lung cancer. Maybe they don't believe it will happen to them, maybe they don't really care, maybe they have other priorities, maybe they believe there will be a cure by the time it's relevant. But you can be confident that they aren't putting positive priority on the lung cancer.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Cody87 wrote:

But you can be confident that they aren't putting positive priority on the lung cancer.

But they do put a positive priority on libtard tears, even at the expense of their own interests. Which was kind of the point of the cartoon. Sorry you didn't like it.

Doug Woodard

Anyone who is wondering why a lot of Americans wanted to blow up the system and vote for Trump should re-familiarize themselves with the mortgage crime that went on for years. And that was just one of their problems:

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2016/12/how-to-steal-house-wind-up...

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2017/01/how-to-steal-house-pitch.html

http://thedanceofthehippo.blogspot.ca/2017/01/when-youre-stealing-houses...

Now we're told that the recently passed U.S. tax bill will result in millions of Americans losing their health insurance coverage. If I thought that Americans would now correctly identify the sources of their problems and take constructive action, I'd be a lot happier than I am. But I suspect that Steve Bannon is happy.

Rev Pesky

From Mr. Magoo:

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

This was a fair question, Cody87, and you failed to answer it, or even address it.

No need to be coy. Just tell us what Trump supporters believe their best interests to be. 'Cause right now it's pretty hard to tell. Every time Trump changes direction, his supporters change direction. Trump says one thing, and his support goes around nodding their heads in agreement, and when he says the complete opposite five minutes later, his support continues going around nodding their agreement.

Rev Pesky

From Doug Woodward:

Anyone who is wondering why a lot of Americans wanted to blow up the system and vote for Trump should re-familiarize themselves with the mortgage crime that went on for years.

I can understand the 'I want to blow up the system' all right. What I don't understand is why the result of that would be a vote for Trump, and/or the Republican party?

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I think because the Democrats currently are tied to the failed system in most voters minds. I am looking forward to the 2020 election cycle.  I imagine there will be serious upheaval in both parties.

josh

The "President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd claims.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trump-lawyer-claims-the-president-cannot-obstruct-justice-2514742663.html

"If a President does it, it's not illegal."

Richard Nixon

voice of the damned

Pogo wrote:

I think because the Democrats currently are tied to the failed system in most voters minds. I am looking forward to the 2020 election cycle.  I imagine there will be serious upheaval in both parties.

My guess is the opposite. Extremism in a right-wing political party usually works to cement support for the centre. By 2020, there will be very little market for "Both parties are equally bad, we need to shake up the whole system." Previously wavering or apathetic Democrats will be so upset about Trump, they'll vote for anyone the Democrats put forward.

(This is assuming that Trump is still the nominee in 2020.)

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I agree to a point.  (I was kind of looking backwards I guess)  However, even if the next election is the Democrats to lose, they have shown that they are capable of losing it.

voice of the damned

Pogo wrote:

I agree to a point.  (I was kind of looking backwards I guess)  However, even if the next election is the Democrats to lose, they have shown that they are capable of losing it.

Yeah, I wasn't neccessarily predicting a Democratic victory, just that, to the extent any of the opposition parties benefit from the Trump gong-show, it will be them, not the left-wing groups or Democratic insurgencies.

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The next nomination battle will be a test. Are progressives any smarter after what was in reality only a trial run? Will the Democrat establishment exert control - or perhaps overplay its hand?  Over on the Republican side how will Bannon drain the swamp campaign play out? will Trump run? Is there enough Republicans left to rally around a moderate?

Cody87

Rev Pesky wrote:

From Mr. Magoo:

What do you think their real interests are, though?  Don't tell them; just between you and me.

This was a fair question, Cody87, and you failed to answer it, or even address it.

No need to be coy. Just tell us what Trump supporters believe their best interests to be. 'Cause right now it's pretty hard to tell. Every time Trump changes direction, his supporters change direction. Trump says one thing, and his support goes around nodding their heads in agreement, and when he says the complete opposite five minutes later, his support continues going around nodding their agreement.

I absolutely did address it. I argued that you don't need to know what those interests are to know what they aren't. The question completely misses the point, and responding to it would just give Magoo the chance to obfusticate and distract as you are attempting to do now.

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