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Oh that Harrit's a scientist. What would he know? It's all a conspiracy like to make the Wall Street Gov., Pentagon kapitalists and CIA look bad.
WikiLeaks reveals 3 undisclosed members of 9/11 plot
Could this be what the Troofers have been patiently and piously waiting for for nearly a decade? Will those three names start with George, Donald and Dick??? Was it a remote-controlled thermo-nanite lazer beam that brought down the holographic airliners after all????
Nope. Evidently even Assange is in the pocket of The Man.
From the OP:
That's quite the button.
Interesting that it's still open season on 9/11 topics here at Babble - especially from posters who not only don't understand but have never been capable of credibly defending the NIST collapse explanations for the WTC.
So who decides what topics will be treated respectfully here? Meanwhile I get suspended for questioning why a poster can't create a thread about a workplace death.
Yup.
They just like defending dubya et al. Don't call them apologists for the right though. They can be fairly sensitive about that. We have to remember that 9/11 was beyond Murder Inc.'s culpability and capability. Pentagon capitalists are too dumb and innocent to have pulled off 9/11 even though they didn't pull it off. "There are no 9/11 whistleblowers." The NIST and Isaac Newton are in complete agreement. As it was with the Catholic inquisition, they can simply refuse to look through Galileo's telescope. Ignoring the evidence should be worth at least 300 years of denial for them if WW III doesn't happen first.
I still think the buildings were supposed to collapse simultaneous with the impact of the planes, and that the last ten years have been a frantic, scrambling exercise in damage control as the Truth slowly sinks in through osmosis.
WikiLeaks: FBI hunts the 9/11 gang that got away
The FBI has launched a manhunt for a previously unknown team of men suspected to be part of the 9/11 attacks, the Daily Telegraph can disclose.
By Steven Swinford, Robert Winnett and Nick Allen in Los Angeles
TV reporters on 9/11, Rather, Blitzer, Shin etc said the collapses looked like controlled demolitions. And non-truthers tend to say things that conflict with FEMA and the NIST's official statements. Non-truthers tend to repeat things which not even US Government agencies have stated. I find that a lot of non-truthers begin with pre-conceived notions about 9/11 which are often wrong. Amazing Randi's JREF forums are a total circus. They are mainly disinformation forums where amateurs are let loose to talk about Newtonian physics according to their gut instincts and whatever the previous anonymous poster said.
This is not an overstatement. It's truly incredible there. Jaw-droppingly so. It's not even like newspeak or doublespeak. It's like opposite-speak. It's like Alice-In-Wonderland-speak. Where 1 + 1 = minus 2 and black=white, until the next paragraph, where black is again black, obviously, and if you point out that they've just stated that black=white, then they'll try to pin the craziness on you.
At least here there was some pressure to adhere, via peer oversight, to logical argument. Not so there. Not at all. Circus is an apt word for it. One has to wonder how so many anonymous posters, with so much time on their hands, can possibly have such a personal vested interest in discrediting, automatically, and at every turn, 9/11 inquiry. One does wonder.
And in their world, government scientists are never coerced into publishing vague, incomplete or deceptive reports. Not now nor ever with respect to everything from Dub-Gov sponsored climate science denialism to "WMD" in Iraq to a slip-shod cover-up the worst building collapses in history after a low budget investigation that would have made the Lockerbie bombing case involving just one plane look like an inquisition by comparison.
Qaida plotting 'nuclear 9/11', say Wiki cables
Anyone see that TV series, 'Heroes', where the bad guys plan to detonate a nuke in NYC and then declare martial law afterwards with spying on millions of ordinary peeple, renditions, torture, and everything? I think they need an anti-false flag party alternative down there, or something. Or perhaps just stop funding terrorism altogether, one or the other.
Barrie Zwicker with Former MI5 Whistleblower Annie Machon Pt 1-5 (2009)
The FBI 'Kamikaze' Pilots Case - by Sibel Edmonds
http://www.opednews.com/articles/3/The-FBI-Kamikaze-Pilots--by-sibel-edm...
"According to my guys, Bin Laden's group is planning a massive terrorist attack in the United States. They will use airplanes to carry out the attacks.."
The corruption in American government is pervasive and ongoing. "al-Qaeda" = al-CIA'da. Black op "Treadstone" was upgraded to "Blackbriar" after 1989.
A Firefighter, A Demolition Expert, and an Architect Look at Ground Zero
on Guns and Butter - KPFA Berkeley mp3
Moby? Ew. The only conspiracy you're in on is the one to launch a false-flag attack against my ears.
No, it's just some attention-starved mechanical and civil engineers, architects, eye witnesses, Danish scientist, 9/11 Commissioners, Military officers and former NSA types, aerospace engineers, physicists, Boeing pilots, NYC firefighters and ERs, a few Congressmen, a recent Governor of Minnesota and former Navy SEAL, victims' families, FBI whistleblowers and the like asking far too many difficult questions and conspiring to make a bunch of mass murdering warfiteers look worse than they really are. And you?
Um, I just don't like Moby and was expecting at least a half-amusing, poorly scripted rant of a website. When I got a Moby song I felt like a fundamental attack on my civil liberties had been orchestrated by the highest powers That Be in the US Imperio-gladio-whateverist state.
You are entirely free not to listen to Moby, it's true. And you can always send the Republicans and Langley guys, Pentagon capitalists, CNN, Foxy Newz etc some nicely written thank you letters on your best stationery instead of slumming with us in this thread.
Have NIST, Popular Mechanics, countless peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals, the large majority of public opinion, and the huge, overwhelming majority opinion of architects, engineers, and scientists. Even the elected officials you're referring to, exempting ONE governor, Jesse Ventura, won't go any further than stating that Bush may have been deliberately neglegent and allowed 9/11 to happen despite prior intellegence.
I haven't seen any professional associations for 9/11 Non-truth, no. And Popular Mechanics is not a peer reviewed sci journal. It's a consumer magazine about ATVs, bbq's, stereos and "mechanix" and owned by some rich people who probably donate to either party of warmongering plutocrats dreaming of war 24/7.
This is a good article regarding the matter. The report linked in the OP is nothing more than bad science and wild conclusions. Just because you find something on the internet by a person with a PhD does not make it valid.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/more-bad-science-surrounding-...
Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth
They seem to basing their objection on some anonymous poster's opinion at JREF who goes by the handle "Sunstealer" or some such. Harrit is a real scientist with real credentials and with expertise in the area of nanochemistry. lol! Not all chemical engineers can lay claim to Harrit's knowledge of the subject except for a maybe a few dozen academics at Uof Cal. Lawrence Livermore where military grade nanothermites were developed and who are even sometimes known to write counter-truth essays allegedly debunking 9/11 Truth. And even then when they come out in the open tend to get their heads handed to them on platters by truthers.
What's lacking credibility are the JREFers who have not published anything outside of a very unscientific blog site dedicated to a former TV clown turned debunkerist and who recently had to back away from his personal views supportive of the Dubya government's climate science denialism due to so many of his followers figuring it out that James Randi really is a quack afterall.
Have they... what?
What are these "countless peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals" you are referring to? I am assuming you are referring to authors other than just Bazant. Please cite these papers.
What do you mean by the "large majority of public opinion"? The large majority of public opinion now appears to side with the truthers.
And what "huge, overwhelming majority opinion of architects, engineers, and scientists" are you referring to? Where do you get this idea? Please cite sources. Thanks.
Oh, look. A peer-reviewed scientific paper "debunked" by an amateur blogger. What a surprise.
I understand the thermite paper actually has remained unchallenged scientifically since it was published.
9/11 Experiments: Eliminate the Impossible
That's a good one, mmphosis. Here's another:
Chemical Engineer Mark Basile confirms Harrit's nanothermite
Basile says thermite residue is there in two samples examined by Basile that should not be there. And it's not just regular thermite, it's highly specialized nanothermite made from substances controlled by US Government. What Basile found should not be there in the dust samples taken from around ground zero. It is. Basile calls on more people with his expertise to do the work and confirm the same results for the sake of scientific truth.
Awesome. Pretty much covers it.
Good primer for our resident truth-skeptics.
Top UN Officials Have Public Meltdown Over Calls for New 9/11 Investigation
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23115
"Richard Falk, retired Princeton University professor of international law and a UN appointed human rights expert on the Human Rights Council, was blasted by UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon for suggesting in his Jan 11 blog entry that there was a cover-up regarding some aspects of the official account of 9/11
Falk mentioned 'The reluctance to address the sort of awkward gaps and contradictions in the official explanations...What may be more distressing than the apparent cover-up is the eerie silence of the mainstream media..'
UN Sec-Gen Ban Ki Moon condemned these remarks as 'preposterous'."
9/11 Family Members Demand Answers from the 9/11 Commission: The Censored Testimony of FBI’s Behrooz Sarshar The Witnessed & Documented “Kamikaze Pilots” Case
They were not tricked by the CIA into waging expensive and illegal wars at taxpayers expense. The war planning dept. let it happen on purpose(LIHOP).