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www.consensus911.org

The purpose of the 9/11 Consensus Panel is to provide the world with a clear statement, based on expert independent opinion, of some of the best evidence opposing the official narrative about 9/11.


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mmphosis wrote:

America's Failure to Learn from 9-11 (thetyee.ca)No bombing of innocent people can be excused, be it Guernica, London, Dresden, Hiroshima or New York and Washington. But until humankind learns how to, in Lyndon Johnson's words "reason together," we will have the horrors of war and deaths of the innocent.

When you look at 9-11 or any bombed city, one can see that while there is never a good reason, there is an explanation.

But let's step back here for a moment. Who in the Muslim world was pissed off enough to perpetrate 9/11?

Proletariats of the Muslim world are mostly too poor and not equipped to pull off 9/11. And,  I'm terribly sorry, but I don't know anyone on the left with the money or the kind of training needed to have pulled off such a complex terror operation. Nobody.

There is, however, plenty of evidence that elites living in USA's cold war era alliance countries, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, financed 9/11 terror. 

That's right, there is zero evidence that any group of lowly proles in Afghanistan or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. No matter how many times theyve been attacked and invaded by foreign armies, Afghans have never sought vengeance against innocent people living in the empire countries. It is a CIA-lamestream newz media myth that Muslims were pissed off enough about the appalling situations in any of Egypt, the West Bank or Gaza enough to have schemed and plotted such a terrible "surprise" attack against symbols of American capitalism on 9/11/01. 19 guys with cell phones and all orchcestrated by Usama bin Laden on the other side of the world? It's laughable. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad that so many people here in the West would believe such an absurd fairy tale.

There is, however, quite a lot of evidence that "al-Qa'eda" is just the CIA's proxy terrorists from the 1980s-90s and previously referred to by lapdog newz media as simply 'the mujahideen', holy warriors and even "freedom fighters". 

And their freedom fighters became experts in terrorism: car bombings, making improvised explosive devices, and yes, even hijacking passenger planes. They were trained by the CIA, US Army and British SAS over the years. And those same people have zero interest in social justice or social democracy or even chasing the infidel armies from their lands. These so-called freedom fighters have murdered innocent Muslims and infidels alike over the years. Their relationship with the CIA and Western world has been a lot like belonging to the mafia and Murder Inc. Their is no trust, no rhyme or reason to belonging to the Gladio Gang and friending it up with Western world intelligence agencies for guns, money, and-or the dope delivery business. The people who perpetrated 9/11 are not social democrats or even liberal-minded. The terrorists who did 9/11 certainly don't give a shit about some poor slob in Gaza whose house was bulldozed in the middle of the night. Let's not laugh too long or hard over this silly baloney.

They were definitely not proles in the way that any of us on the left think of proletariats or freedom fighters getting one back against a vicious empire. This CIA "blowback" narrative may sound nice and romantic and logical, but it is totally absurd and flies in the face of reality.

Of course the alternative is that 9/11 was an inside job. It's highly likely.


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9/11 Truth Versus The BBC (youtube.com) 21 m 40 s

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Thank you to the 9/11 truth seekers who have uploaded so many posts in Babble.  I just finished reading back over the many threads you folk have posted here over the years and I thank you also for your persistence.  I'm new to 9/11 truth, having stumbled over it through the occupy movement.  This is my question: I understand mainstream media's participation in the cover-up and censorship of 9/11 but help me to understand why alternative media sources are participating as well?  Rabble.ca why did my 9/11 search on your site lead only to results in babble and nothing in any of your main sections?  Why did I have to dig for this information?  9/11 Truthers, why is the censorship happening in alternative media?


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Hmm, sorry, should have dug a little further, just found an article with accolades to the babblers bringing forward the truth about 9/11.  What else can be done? Even after my short foray into this, I can only conclude that 9/11 begs us to examine the degree of censorship that occurs across the globe in both mainstream and alternative media.


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cat9 wrote:
9/11 Truthers, why is the censorship happening in alternative media?

Yes, why is it happening? I just googled the absurd phrase "war on terror" and received more than 2600 hits. The U.S. Military dictatorship and its bribelings in Ottawa et al are still using the 9/11 canard to threaten and attack other countries militarily ten years later. The situation is deteriorating globally not improving. We now have a colder war on our hands, and the threat of an outbreak of nuclear war is just as great now than most times during the cold war.

I find some of us on the left tended to swallow whatever it is the right led them to believe about 9/11. And we've interpreted the right's version of 9/11 events in a way that only lefties can. Some of us were duped into believing that they were pious Muslims who orchestrated and carried out the 9/11 terror attacks. Some of us lefties naturally assume that the 19 hijackers were fed up with US-Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians over the years. They think to themselves that the hijackers must have been proletariats on a whole who were merely retaliating for wrongs done to them and their's in the recent past. They were riteous lefties in disguise and lobbing one back against a vicious empire, or an eye for an eye sort of thing. Some of us lefties have ingested and digested the imperialists' own "blowback" theory. That must have been the case, they think to themselves. And there is a dearth of evidence to support that point of view. There is very little evidence to indicate their cold war proxies turned against them. There is overwhelming evidence, however, that al-Qa'eda is really al-CIA'da, al-Special Forces, al-MI6 and even Al-Gladio/NATO then and now. It can't be, they say. It's as if they were born after the cold war not before.

This is a good one by someone named Captain America. 9/11: Who Really Benefited?  Fact and not fiction

After reading that long list of fascists and insiders who benefited from 9/11, ask yourself how many Muslims, Iraqis and Afghans benefited? Yes, who benefited?

Did a handful of U.S. Military and U.S. shadow government CIA and NSA officials conspire to mass murder thousands of American citizens and other nationals on 9/11? The time has come to consider that, yes, there are mass murderering psychopaths in high places, and they don't have any more respect for American lives than for those human lights they snuff out in oil-rich countries. Murder Inc. and Gladio gang will murder anyone barring their way to riches and dictatorial power, whether they are desperately poor people in the third world or white, middle and upper class American citizens who made the mistake of going to work on 9/11.

The Glasnost is half full.


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“aftershocks” from planes caused collapse of WTC Building 7

—Thomas Kean (September 13th, 2011)

WeAreChange confronts Thomas Kean For The 3rd Time (wearechange.org)


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Can you believe that idiot? Aftershocks? My god what a moran he is. And now...

Accusing Iran of being Behind 9/11. Pretext to Wage War on Iran? War on Iran: "seeking a justification to go live"

And I suspect the idiots will insist that Elvis bin Laden and Sunni mercenaries of anticommunist jihad were like that with the Ayatollah, too. My god they've completely lost their minds. I guess Ahmadinejad calling it an inside job rattled Qaeda mercenaries pretty good. Al-CIA'duh quickly rebuked Ahmadinejad at that point. NATO and their Qaeda allies will have to go in and destroy Iran now because they know that Tehran will never be a subserviant outpost of the empire.


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M. Spector wrote:

Hey, thousands of people were all involved in the 9/11 plot to destroy the World Trade Center through controlled demolitions, according to Fidel, and not one of them has ever confessed or ratted on the others.

Compared with that, this "civil disobedience" campaign would be a piece of cake!

Actually, 7WTC was home to the CIA's largest field office. 7WTC was also home to the secret service, U.S. Military, and NYC's Emergency Planning Dept(terrorism) with a bird's eye view to it all on 9/11. If anyone could have pulled it off, they had the talent and wherewithal.

M. Spector apologizing profusely for and declaring innocence on behalf of the U.S. Military and CIA on 9/11, architects of false flag at Gulf of Tonkin and even operation Mongoose? And we thought we knew him. All of this in the absence of a real investigation into the worst terrorist attacks, and worst building collapse(s) in a heavily populated city in US history. In the absence of a real investigation which Spector's own personal god Ralph Nader supports. Perhaps a few hail Ralphs and pennance for M.S. are in order.

Radio host Alex Jones to Ralph Nader: Is state-sponsored false flag terrorism real?

Nader: Absolutely...(rhymes off examples in recent history)

wikipedia wrote:
Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

TRUTH: They hath committed false flag and mass murder in their black little hearts, and actually, several times before.


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M. Spector wrote:

Fidel wrote:

I've never noticed Nader stating categorically that he does not support the 9/11 Truth movement.

And according to your twisted logic, that's apparently enough to justify counting him among the "9/11 Truth movement" nitwits.

If you think you can explain in engeering and scientific terms the mysterious collapse of 7WTC, there are 1600+ engineers who are fully capable of running you through the mill on why your uncritical support of US Government's dereliction of duty in that regard is folly.

1600+ engineers and architects demanding that FEMA and the NIST do their jobs are not saying it was an inside job. But the ongoing cover-up certainly does not create an appearance that the corrupt regime in Washington is interested in upholding US Constitutional law regarding either full investigations of federal crimes or US building and safety code violations.

They don't know that, and neither do any of us.

The law is the law and it requires that the NIST does its job, and that's all.

And so far they've refused to do their jobs. Why?

Spector, there is slim next to no proof whatsoever that the invisible army of darkness ever existed. They have no proof of the indenties of the hijackers. None. No proof whatsoever has been provided to the public regarding the U.S. Military's alleged murder of Usama bin Laden who once fought for the CIA in Afghanistan, Bosnia and so on after the end of cold war.

And, you've been posting your off-topical commentaries in the Indefinite U.S. fascism thread. 9/11 truth is here in this thread. It helps keep things neat and tidy that way.

 


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Garlock, Barnett, Carson etc, they were not engineers, PhDs and eye witnesses at the crime scene!! They are conSHPEERiffy thyristorists. 

Gotta b'leave da guvmint guys werkin for dubya at the time. 

Come on!

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Building Another Pretext to Wage War on Iran: US Court Holds Tehran Responsible for the 9/11 Attacks $100 billion in damages

Truth about the phony war on terror refuses to go away.




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Secret Pakistan The Passionate EyeMonday, January 2, 2012 10:00 PM ET/PT on CBC News Network

Get ready to be propagandized. We will hear how their cold war allies in Pakistan "double-crossed" them. The CIA, ISI and the "freedom fighters" were caught in bed together in a ménage à trois, and they want us to believe that only the CIA got fucked in the deal, which is slightly different than their previous verson of things where nobody got fucked and yet there was a baby from hell produced, Al-CIA'duh!

The Glasnost will still be half full after this bit of Canadian newz media lapdoggery on Monday night.


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Man did anyone see that one on Secret Pakistan? I think it must have been a DVD produced by the CIA and mailed to them from D.C. or something. Pretty stale ganda it was.


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Crackpot Anti-Islam Activists, "Serial Fabricators" and the Tale of Iran and 9/11

truth-out.org wrote:
Behind a mysterious December 22 Associated Press story about "finding of fact" by a District judge in Manhattan Friday that Iran assisted al Qaeda in the planning of the 9/11 attacks is a tapestry of recycled fabrications and distortions of fact from a bizarre cast of characters. ...

The only real effect of the case is to promote right-wing political myths about Iran. One of the peculiarities of such cases is that the witnesses are not subject to cross examination in court. The witnesses have every incentive, therefore to indulge in false testimony, knowing that there will be no one to challenge them.

"A Fabricator of Monumental Proportions"

The lawyers and the "expert witnesses" behind the accusation of Iran in regard to 9/11 hoped to sell the press and public on recycled claims first made by Iranian "defectors" several years ago that they had personal knowledge of Iranian participation in the 9/11 plot. The lawyers produced videotaped affidavits by three such defectors who were identified, with a dramatic flourish, as Witnesses "X," "Y" and "Z."

Serial fabricators are at it again.


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U.S. fights to keep $6.6 million in al-Qaeda assets from 9/11 victims

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In a ferocious legal battle pitting government lawyers against victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the Justice Department is fighting to block thousands of individuals and businesses from taking $6.6 million in frozen al-Qaeda assets seized from an alleged terrorism financier.

Frozen by the U.S. Treasury Department in 2007, the money is sought by the attorneys for 6,000 individual victims and insurers who suffered billions in losses from the attacks on the World Trade Center. ...

The story of al-Qaeda's Chicago brokerage account is one of the more peculiar and tantalizing threads of the 9/11 story, showing that al-Qaeda had a robust financial network in the United States years after the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Al-CIA'da with financial connections in the USA. The cover-up continues.


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While I'm linking videos from 9/11 blogger, here's another one:

Incredibly Loud and Extremely Close Trailer Parody

 

f*'ing hilarious.



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Lol! That was hi-larious. Sadly I will likely never read that book. Because like the 9/11 Commission cover-up, Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close is a work of fiction. And I think millions of us are fed up with what has been a decade of the official 9/11 fiction.

The glasnost is half full.


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Ryan (the temp.) from "The Office" season five, the "Weight Loss" episode. (September 25, 2008) on NBC wrote:

Ryan the temp from "The Office"

I wanted to say I'm sorry, for treating you bad the past couple years. I was in my mid-twenties and I was.. going through a lot of stuff. I think I never really processed 9/11. I want you to know I've changed.


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Pentagon Admits More 9/11 Remains Dumped in Landfill

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At this time, there is still no word from the FBI or New York city officials how they were able to discover nearly intact passports from the World Trade Center site on the day of 9/11 but have yet to account for nearly 1,000 human bodies.


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NSA Whistle-Blower: Obama "Worse than Bush" The national security state needs a boogeyman to keep the money flowing

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In the New Yorker article, Jane Mayer quotes you as saying, "I actually had hopes for Obama." What's your opinion on the Obama administration's stated support for whistle-blowers and, more generally, his counterterrorism record?

Worse than Bush. I have to say that. I actually voted for Obama. It's all rhetoric for me now. As Americans we were hoodwinked. He's expanding the secrecy regime far beyond what the Bush even intended, interestingly enough. I think Bush is probably like, "Whoa."

Former NSA official Thomas Drake spent tens of thousands on lawyers and lost his government pension worth $1 million bucks. That was his reward for telling the truth.

And some people ask why there aren't more 9/11 whistleblowers than there are.


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Canadian Truth Tour 2012 1600 architects and engineers reveal what you are not being told about the destruction of 3 World Trade Centre buildings.


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