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Fanatic defaces Delacroix painting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/08/us-france-louvre-idUSBRE9170G3...
Yes, this is really going to make me see the light.
Apparently it worked because it grabbed your attention. Admit it, youre just a sucker for the truth like the rest of us. Your spidey sense tells you that imperialists really are so evil as to commit mass murder of mainly white people on 9/11/01. Imperialists can be colour-blind, too, when it comes to propping-up the largest corporate welfare programs in history with state sponsored false flag terror. If it wasn't for false flag terror, the NATO war machine would have no reason to exist today.
Taking a marker to a 180-year old masterpiece. What's not to notice?
No Fidel, it just pissed me off because these attention-starved dumbasses don't seem content to let people make up their own minds about things, and feel that things like shock, vandalism and violence will somehow validate their position where reason fails.
I don't know them. I don't believe they are associated with AE's for truth.
I think what you are trying to tell us is that these vandals only hurt the cause for 9/11 truth. And I have to admit that truth exposed to the light of day probably does evoke strong emotions in people and especially when they understand the implications.
This really is not the former USSR with government-owned news sources reporting the "truth." And OTOH, corporate sponsored newz media might well be 90%+ owned by rich people and their common political agendas, but we do have independent reporters and truth groups out there albeit representing a much smaller percentage of total news journalism. When I do read about past and current events, I tend to want to be selective and constantly contrasting between how the majority of newz media describe the situation and what the independents have to say.
She was obviously working for the CiA to discredit the AE911. It has all the earmarks. I'm glad the op protocol only called for pretending to damage the painting.
Police arrested a 28-year-old woman on Thursday for writing "AE911" across the bottom of a painting so closely identified with the French Republic that its image once graced the 100-franc note and it has been reproduced on postage stamps.
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"AE911Truth" is the name of a website called "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" whose backers say they are seeking to establish the truth of the September 11, 2001 suicide airliner attacks on New York's Twin Towers.
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The work, depicting a bare-breasted woman brandishing a tricolor flag and leading her people over the bodies of the fallen, was later adopted as a revolutionary emblem in the 1848 uprising which overthrew the Orleans monarchy.
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The Louvre confirmed on Friday it had managed to save the painting as the black marker had not penetrated the upper layer of varnish and has been successfully removed.
She was obviously working for the CiA to discredit the AE911. It has all the earmarks. I'm glad the op protocol only called for pretending to damage the painting.
I don't know about the CIA, but I do have to wonder.
There's certainly been an ongoing campaign to discredit outspoken 9/11 truthers. Most recently a Danish newspaper claimed that serial killer Peter Mangs was "influenced" by 9/11 researcher Niels Harrit (who is currently suing another Danish paper for libel).
There has also been a pattern of odd or unexpected deaths: WTC 7 survivor Barry Jennings - undisclosed hospital death; Danny Jowenko (not a "truther" but whose expert opinion about the collapse of WTC 7 supports 9/11 truth claims) - car crash on a remote highway; 9/11 widow Beverley Eckert who opted to sue rather than take the victim's compensation money - plane crash; 9/11 victim's lawyer Michael Doran - plane crash; a WTC janitor who witnessed an explosion in the basement - suicide; a Pentagon crash witness who had his own photos and shared them with a documentary maker - suicide; D.C. "madam" Deborah Palfrey who said she had information of interest to the 9/11 Commission, and had joked to Alex Jones that no, she wasn't planning on committing suicide - suicide; FBI informant regarding 9/11 hijackers, David Graham - uninvestigated death by poisoning; and just the other day former intelligence pilot and 9/11 expose author Phillip Marshall in an alleged murder-suicide that his neighbours find baffling... and that's not all of them.
Also former FEMA videographer turned 9/11 truther Kurt Sonnenfeld, who was imprisoned and then acquitted for the murder of his wife and is now living in Argentina and claims he is still being harassed by U.S. federal agents, and has written a book about it.
Yes imperialists and their lapdog newz media have worked overtime to smear the legitimate resistance movement for exposing the official lies. And the official lies are well documented by the legtimate dissident truth movement. The USSA will be the last of a number of world empires to crumble since turn of the last century.
The glasnost is half full.
Ha, I'll take your themite charges and raise you mini nukes...
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC
"TRITIUM = NUKES AT THE 911 WTC PROOF!!". Dr. Jones bypasses/ignores these proven tritium levels by calling the diluted amounts "safe/background" (which they are NOT), but the question is not are the levels "safe." The question is: WHERE DID THE FAR ABOVE BACKGROUND LEVELS ORIGINATE - if not from a Micro Nuke?
Now we have CIA Ninja deployed mini nukes...
Mini nuke, it just sounds so cute.
The planes didn't crash into the towers?????
Airplanes crashed into the buildings alright... and they crashed into the exact spot the micro charges were set (by ninjas dressed in coveralls apparently).
For the grand fanally they popped mini nukes.
I’m not buying the explosive charges theory; it would have required way to many people to set that up and someone would have talked by now.
Also when I ask your group about how many and what size charges they think would have had to have put in the buildings you say that is irrelevant. It’s apparent you have no idea how it could have really been done.
jjuares wrote:The planes didn't crash into the towers?????
Airplanes crashed into the buildings alright... and they crashed into the exact spot the micro charges were set (by ninjas dressed in coveralls apparently).
For the grand fanally they popped mini nukes.
I’m not buying the explosive charges theory; it would have required way to many people to set that up and someone would have talked by now.
Also when I ask your group about how many and what size charges they think would have had to have put in the buildings you say that is irrelevant. It’s apparent you have no idea how it could have really been done.
My group?? I have no group. All this 911 truther talk is just silly. The towers went down because two planes hit them.
WTC Building #7 was not hit by an airplane, and there is still no precedent for a steel frame building collapsing by fire damage. That is, not unless you believe in U.S. Military government fairy tales.
Were the Twin Towers Designed to Survive the Impact of the Airplanes? 
Lead WTC Structural Engineer John Skilling was rightfully confident that neither the impact of a large passenger jet nor the ensuing office fires was capable “We looked at every possible thing we could think of that could happen to the buildings, even to the extent of an airplane hitting the side… Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed. [But] the building structure would still be there.”
None of your bipartisan war parties, 9/11 Commish cover-up, nor your lapdog newz media have much to say about the facts.
False Flags and the Manufacture of Consent (and vid) - by Neal Sanders
Bec.De.Corbin wrote:jjuares wrote:The planes didn't crash into the towers?????
Airplanes crashed into the buildings alright... and they crashed into the exact spot the micro charges were set (by ninjas dressed in coveralls apparently).
For the grand fanally they popped mini nukes.
I’m not buying the explosive charges theory; it would have required way to many people to set that up and someone would have talked by now.
Also when I ask your group about how many and what size charges they think would have had to have put in the buildings you say that is irrelevant. It’s apparent you have no idea how it could have really been done.
My group?? I have no group. All this 911 truther talk is just silly. The towers went down because two planes hit them.
Wasn't refering to you... the ones I were posted below you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'm with you. In the end it was burning office furniture, carpet and ceiling towel, and lots of it, which felled the WTC. Incredable…
It's totally incredible. That's why so many people still have trouble believing it. Yes, the notion of a bunch of charges being set in the buildings and no one noticing is unlikely, but the idea that two planes brought down these buildings at the speed of freefall (and another building that wasn't even struck) in defiance of how they were designed and all previous evidence with high-rise fires, is just as unlikely. Both of these are absurd fantastical scenarios that defy how we understand the world to work. Yet the buildings fell. Something happened. So we are forced into the uncomfortable position of trying to puzzle out which of these rather ludicrous theories holds some truth.
Remember that a number of respected demolitions experts have gone on record as saying that ONLY a controlled demolition can make a building fall that way. In other words, they felt that it couldn't have been anything else. Obviously they're capable of being wrong, but they do do this for a living. Their opinion is worth more than mine or yours, surely. Probably worth more than the writers at Popular Mechanics as well.
You act like only the alternate hypothetical scenarios put forth by dissenters are full of holes, or are outlandishly improbable, while conveniently ignoring that the official story is just as ridiculous. Whatever really happened it was something outlandish, something improbable. While I don't know what it was, I feel sure that we don't know the real facts yet and I'm glad that there are still people out there probing into this.
The exact facts of the explosions are the red herring. People end up chasing that instead of challenging the outcome. We need to focus on the unprecedented speed of the descent into a totalitarian state that has occurred inside the US since 9/11 and the use of NATO's imperial troops in wars of aggression. Personally I don't care how the buildings fell I care about stopping the military/security/financial complex that is killing in all corners of the world. I refuse to spend my time looking backwards trying to figure out which of the scenarios are the right one. People did that for 50 years with the Reichstag fire and what good did it do anyone.
The question is who is controlling the world and how can we the people wrest that control from them. It matters little to me if the Twin Towers was a planned operation or whether our security fascists have just used it as a convenient excuse to unmask the totalitarian state.
You act like only the alternate hypothetical scenarios put forth by dissenters are full of holes, or are outlandishly improbable, while conveniently ignoring that the official story is just as ridiculous. Whatever really happened it was something outlandish, something improbable. While I don't know what it was, I feel sure that we don't know the real facts yet and I'm glad that there are still people out there probing into this.
Actually, my problem isn't with probing the theory at all. It is with those who, having stated their case, refuse to get out of your face unless you join the fanatical gang, and who don't mind derailing conversations and defacing paintings just to remain the centre of attention.
The only person I have ever had to unfriend on facebook was one who, after I told him I accepted there might be some truth in his hypothesis, now would he please stop interrrupting unrelated conversations or be unfriended.
He still wouldn't shut the fuck up. What choice did I have.
What is it about this particular issue that attracts that kind of fanaticism? That's the question I'd like answered. Was it like this after Kennedy was topped? I don't think so.
K is right. the root of the problem is still there. In that respect proving this conspiracy theory is an academic exercise. Bush is out of office. Is that problem going to change even if he, Rove, Cheney, Wolfowitz and the rest of the gang wind up with their heads in nooses?
Personally I don't care how the buildings fell I care about stopping the military/security/financial complex that is killing in all corners of the world. I refuse to spend my time looking backwards trying to figure out which of the scenarios are the right one. People did that for 50 years with the Reichstag fire and what good did it do anyone.
The question is who is controlling the world and how can we the people wrest that control from them. It matters little to me if the Twin Towers was a planned operation or whether our security fascists have just used it as a convenient excuse to unmask the totalitarian state.
In addition to examining the consequences of these events, it feels important to me that people recognize and acknowledge false-flag terrorism so that, as a society, we are able to identify it when it occurs. Doing this makes it much harder to perpetrate and much harder to justify military aggression based on false premises.
It's important to me also that people recognize pseudoscience when it's staring them in the face, and that they be allowed to feel comfortable speaking out about it and seeking public debate on it without being ridiculed or bullied into a kind of majority silence.
Actually, I glanced over k's mention of the Reichstag fire there.
I have an account at home (I'll edit in the author later) from a fellow who was there that evening, and pointed out that it was an open secret that Hitler's government had done it. Everyone knew they set the fire. It was only those who wanted to believe their version of things who blamed the communists.
Government Allowed 9/11 | Interview with Sibel Edmonds (youtube.com)
Abby Martin talks to the Editor of Boiling Frogs Post and Founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, Sibel Edmonds, about her story as a whistleblower and the erosion of civil liberties in a post 9/11 America.
Obama's message to whistleblowers: Blow whistles on our increasingly secretive and murderous military regime and suffer the consequences!
Damn right it was an inside job. And the motive is the same as it is for any murder investigation: billion-dollar corporate profits that are ongoing today. They've been shovelling hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer spending every year to about 8000 private military contractors since the 1950's.
Truman said to the Joint Chiefs of Staff after the war, Let's just stay armed all of the time. And it's been one long military dictatorship ever since the signing of the National Security Act.
Sure they orchestrated 9/11. Damn right they did.U.S. Military dictatorship meddles in Gitmo's Kangaroo Court Proceedings
To those who can't be bothered with the facts surrounding 9/11, here's your conspiracy theory.
Feast your eyes.
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How to Prosecute the 9/11 War Crimes - Panel Discussion (YouTube)
I misspoke in the other thread.
there's room enough in my heart to celebrate those who still retain degrees of liberty and despite those losses, continue to face tyranny and will not be forced upon their own sword
as a kneejerk reaction I tend to place those persons who have paid the "highest price" above those who choose to do so every day
Gladio Gang went to great lengths to publicize the capture, kangaroo trial, and execution of Saddam Hussein. Dragged it out over three years!
But Elvis bin Laden received a swift burial at sea after his alleged execution.
And gullible people think it really happened,
Here is a show Fidel that will likely make your head explode. Please try to be calm if you decide to watch it.
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/the+fifth+estate/ID/2331484886/
All I see are a series ads for Lexus cars. Watched it last night, tho, and they included one interesting fact only to lend credibility to the documentary.
The CBC maintained their own credibility somewhat by telling us what the good people of Pakistan said about this fiasco. The good people of Pakistan have asked why Saddam Hussein received "a fair trial" over three years followed by a widely publicized execution while Elvis bin Laden, the alleged mastermind of a string of Gladio orchestrated acts of terror around the world, was worth only a mythical burial at sea?
Total bullshit. The CIA and Joint Chiefs are all pathological liars with much to protect on behalf of 8000+ private military contractors draining U.S. taxpayers for a trillion dollars every year. It's Keynesian-militarism that drives them to write these ridiculous fictions. All they have to do is fool some gullible, phony majority of U.S. voters every four years. They obviously don't care what the rest of the thinking public presumes to be the truth.
Elvis bin Laden probably died years before the CIA's mind fuck story about killing an alleged leader of an invisible army of darkness.
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And so we ask babblers and mods to let's try and keep CIA based conspiracy theories and other U.S. Military government fairy tales from littering babble's distinguished truth threads. Please, for the sake of 9/11 truth, let's not have any more insanely anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim propaganda in these threads which should be maintained as sanctuary for critical analysis of facts concerning the phony global war on terror and its ersatz genesis fable stemming from the events of 9/11/01.
Oh? Does this mean we have another truthmonger among us?
And for kropotkin1951 wrote: