Bernie Sanders for President

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quizzical

hmm all it shows me is 1971 was a much simpler time. i don't see why it lacks principles. because there was a labour dispute?

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He doesn't have to win but how well does Sanders have to do in SC?

Also why is all the talk about SC now when Nevada is next?

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This article was published on Sunday, 2 days before the NH vote.

It’s almost over for Hillary: This election is a mass insurrection against a rigged system

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/07/its_almost_over_for_hillary_this_electio...

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Victorious in New Hampshire, Sanders is first Jew to win presidential primary

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Victorious-in-New-Hampshire-Sanders-is-fir...

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Bernie Sanders’s victory speech in New Hampshire

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/9/10956632/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire-speech...

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Sanders now leads in delegate count 34 to 32

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Bernie Sanders Becomes the First Candidate From Either Party to Win 60 Percent of a State's Vote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/bernie-sanders-becomes-th_b_9...

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$2.6 million last nite alone

Bernie Sanders’s fundraising prowess boosts his post-New Hampshire efforts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanderss-fundraising-prow...

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This article was published on Sunday, 2 days before the NH vote.

It’s almost over for Hillary: This election is a mass insurrection against a rigged system

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/07/its_almost_over_for_hillary_this_electio...

The yellow dogs might have something to say about that. I'd wait 'til Super Tuesday before writing the obits for Hillary.

lagatta

The other thing to keep in mind is that the US electoral system is deeply undemocratic; not just in the sense that all "bourgeois democracies" are due to the economic and power imbalance, but the very way it is structured through the primaries and electoral college (whose history was tied to that of slavery). And if Hillary sinks, the Democratic party establishment probably has some other saviour in the wings.

That said, the Bern is quite an inspiring phenomenon, whatever happens to the candidacy. The decline in living standards even in the richest countries, and in particular in the US where labour unions are so weak and there is so little social protection, can no longer be denied. Though of course it can be channelled into xenographic movements such as that behind Trump...

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lagatta wrote:

The other thing to keep in mind is that the US electoral system is deeply undemocratic; not just in the sense that all "bourgeois democracies" are due to the economic and power imbalance, but the very way it is structured through the primaries and electoral college (whose history was tied to that of slavery). And if Hillary sinks, the Democratic party establishment probably has some other saviour in the wings.

That said, the Bern is quite an inspiring phenomenon, whatever happens to the candidacy. The decline in living standards even in the richest countries, and in particular in the US where labour unions are so weak and there is so little social protection, can no longer be denied. Though of course it can be channelled into xenographic movements such as that behind Trump...

I don't think the primaries are part of the electoral system, they're just the way the two main parties pick their candidates. How is it any less democratic than the way parties in Canada or the UK etc pick their leaders?

As for the electoral college, I suppose it's undemocratic in that the president is being elected by the College, not by the voters directly. But, except in rare instances, the vote of the College is usually in line with what the majority, or at least the plurality, voted for. There WAS 2000, but, even in Canada, it's not unheard of for parties to gain majorities in the Commons or legislature even though some other party got more votes. (I think the BC NDP benefitted from this in their last victory).

I think the main problem in the US system is the undue influence of money, via lax regulation of campaign finance. Obviously, things are better in countries that have all-public financing of campaigns. Not sure how Canada stacks up in that regard.

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Interesting piece from the Guardian from Nurses United executive director endorsing Sanders.

lagatta

Canada is a bit better in terms of campaign limits, but dismal in terms of all-public financing.

If you google electoral college slavery you'll find some interesting background. Nothing that is "first past the post", whether Westminster or the Presidential system common in the US and many other American countries, is particularly representative.

voice of the damned

lagatta wrote:

Canada is a bit better in terms of campaign limits, but dismal in terms of all-public financing.

If you google electoral college slavery you'll find some interesting background.

Oh, I don't doubt that the EC was supported by slaveholders, at the time, if they thought that their interests would be better served that way than by direct election of the president. But just because a system was originally supported for that purpose, doesn't mean that it's still advancing that purpose, or that there aren't other reasons for keeping it.

The Canadian Senate was founded to prevent the masses from getting too uppity. But I know some progressives who think it can still play a role(I"m not one of them, since it's unelected nature in my view makes it irredeemable).

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quizzical wrote:

hmm all it shows me is 1971 was a much simpler time. i don't see why it lacks principles. because there was a labour dispute?

Yes most people these days just don't get it. I grew up in a union town and people who crossed picket lines to buy stuff were shunned and considered scum of the earth. Someone who would do the work of a striking worker was called a scab and the stench never left them no matter how many years would pass.  But that was back in the days when we had a union movement and working people understood the idea of solidarity. After 30 years of attack by our corporate masters we have a very small union workforce and most jobs pay less than a living wage. The two things go hand in hand.

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Well said krop.

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A Prominent Bernie Sanders Critic, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Is Now a Fan


Ta-Nehisi Coates, the award-winning writer who has become one of the nation’s most influential voices on cultural and political issues, particularly touching on race relations, said Wednesday that he would be voting for Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

The decision by Mr. Coates, the recipient of a MacArthur “genius grant” and author of “Between the World and Me,” winner of the National Book Award, came as something of a surprise: Last month, Mr. Coates, author of a widely read 2014 Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations,” wrote two articles sharply criticizing Mr. Sanders over his opposition to reparations for slavery.

“I have tried to avoid this question, but yes, I will be voting for Senator Sanders,” Mr. Coates said in an interview with Democracy Now! that aired Wednesday.

Mr. Coates said he was “stunned” by Mr. Sanders’s rise and by his ability to compete with Hillary Clinton.

“Had you told me this like a year ago, I certainly would not have expected, you know, an avowed socialist to be putting up these sorts of numbers, and actually be contending for the Democratic Party nomination, but I think it’s awesome,” Mr. Coates said. “I think it’s great.”

Backing from Mr. Coates, 40, who wrote the widely read “The Case for Reparations” in 2014, could bolster Mr. Sanders’s efforts to court black voters as the Democratic primary contest moves into more diverse primary states, where African-Americans make up an enormously important constituency.

Mr. Coates said Wednesday that he was concerned about Mrs. Clinton’s ties to Wall Street and her stances on criminal justice.

“Like a lot of people, I’m very, very concerned about Senator Clinton’s record,” Mr. Coates said. “And, I am very, very concerned about where her positions were in the 1990s when we had some of the most disgusting legislation in terms of criminal justice, really, in this country’s history. I get really, really concerned when I see somebody taking $600,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs and will not release what they are actually saying.”

 

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PhotoThe Rev. Al Sharpton and Senator Bernie Sanders, fresh off his New Hampshire primary victory, met in Harlem on Wednesday.

While Mr. Sanders left without his endorsement, Mr. Sharpton told reporters he was impressed that the senator had come first to Harlem after his “historic victory.”

“My concern is that in January next year, for the first time in American history a black family will be moving out of the White House,” said Mr. Sharpton, who met with Barack Obama at Sylvia’s during his 2008 presidential bid. “I do not want black concerns to be moved out with them. We must be front and center and not marginalized — and Senator Sanders coming here this morning further makes it clear that we will not be ignored.”

http://www.nytimes.com/live/new-hampshire-primary-2016-election/a-promin...

lagatta

Indeed. They were crossing a picket line. No, they weren't technically "scabs" because they weren't replacement workers breaking a strike or workers for a subcontractor not respecting the line. But crossing a picket line to shop was out of ... line. Idem visiting a library or museum, culturally valuable as those pursuits may be.

A local funny is notorious scabherder Pierre-Karl Péladeau joining arms with the parents and teachers "protecting" local schools from Couillard government cuts. Poor Pierre-Karl is so sad that Amir Khadir is spurning his advances. After Julie...

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As Bernie Sanders Makes History, Jews Wonder What It Means

By NICHOLAS CONFESSOREFEB. 10, 2016

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/11/us/politics/bernie-sanders-jewish.html...

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Bernie Sanders Plans Push for Black Vote as Campaign Moves South

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/333224/bernie-sanders-plans-push-f...

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Worth reading this as perhaps these superdelegates are not necessarily what they are cracked up to be. Smile

After Sanders' Big Win in New Hampshire, Establishment Figures Want to Scare You with Superdelegates. Here's Why It's Bullshit

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/after-sanders-big-win-in-n...

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Make no mistake: Bernie Sanders’s win in New Hampshire was historically massive

Trump's win was remarkable for a number of reasons, but his margin wasn't really one of them. Sanders's victory was remarkable for a number of reasons, too -- but the fact that he crushed Clinton so thoroughly should be added to the list.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/10/make-no-mistak...

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Extensive analysis

How the outsiders won -- and the insiders crumbled

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/politics/new-hampshire-primary-recap/

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How Bernie Sanders made Hillary Clinton look old

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/10/how-bernie-sanders-made-h...

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How Elizabeth Warren Helped Sanders Deflate Clinton's Massive Political Apparatus

Clinton has failed Warren’s ‘money-in-politics’ litmus test — and now the Democratic Party is splitting in two.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/party-divided-how-elizabeth-warren...

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H. A. Goodman: Why I'm Voting Bernie Sanders Over Clinton or Trump - in 60 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMA4ZSB_P4

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The Victories in New Hampshire, and the Darkness to Come

Of course, the Republican race now moves along to South Carolina, which not only is the home office of American sedition, but also is the birthplace of the late Lee Atwater, the man from whom a generation of Republican ratfckers learned their trade. It was in South Carolina in 2000 where the Bush campaign spread scurrilous rumors about John McCain and his family. That campaign was run by Karl Rove, an Atwater acolyte, and Atwater learned his trade at the feet of Strom Thurmond. Ratfcking is generational down there. And as much as I would like to believe that Kasich is right, and that the light has defeated the dark, I also know that the exit polls in New Hampshire showed that 66 percent of the Republican winner's voters believed that Muslims should be forbidden from emigrating to this country for some period of time. And I know that this is ground that was softened up for the likes of He, Trump decades ago, and it has been waiting there in the breathing dark for someone like him to conjure up again its dark and everlasting energy. 

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42005/new-hampshire-...

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Bill Maher Pens Blistering Essay on Hillary as "Charlie Brown," Trump and Why Bernie Sanders, Socialist, Can Win

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/bill-maher-pens-blistering-ess...

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Scare tactics perhaps?

After Crushing Defeat, DNC Quirk Still Gives Hillary More New Hampshire Delegates Than Sanders

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hillary-earns-more-new-hampshire-deleg...

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Scare tactics?

After Crushing Defeat, DNC Quirk Still Gives Hillary More New Hampshire Delegates Than Sanders


http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hillary-earns-more-new-hampshire-deleg...

quizzical

kropotkin1951 wrote:
quizzical wrote:
hmm all it shows me is 1971 was a much simpler time. i don't see why it lacks principles. because there was a labour dispute?

Yes most people these days just don't get it. I grew up in a union town and people who crossed picket lines to buy stuff were shunned and considered scum of the earth. Someone who would do the work of a striking worker was called a scab and the stench never left them no matter how many years would pass.  But that was back in the days when we had a union movement and working people understood the idea of solidarity. After 30 years of attack by our corporate masters we have a very small union workforce and most jobs pay less than a living wage. The two things go hand in hand.

oh i never thought of a picket line. i've never had a union job but have never crossed a line.

i should've put it together though. it' not like i was difficient in union family upbringing.

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Bernie Sanders wants New Hampshire to be his ‘slingshot’  Smile

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-wants-new-hampshire-to-be-...

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My hunch is that Clinton is more suited to the GOP than the Democrats.

Sanders views are mainstream

A liberal, not a radical

 Although he is a democratic socialist, much of his rhetoric is really just that of an unrepentant New Deal liberal. Sanders thinks government is a good, he supports the expanded use of government to help social conditions, and he believes that much of what federal officials do helps society. Many Democrats, inside and outside the base, are happy to finally hear a Democrat actually enthusiastically support the core Democratic idea. For too long, Democrats have struggled to avoid the "L" word and mimic Republicans.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/opinions/sanders-views-are-mainstream-zeli...

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Bernie Sanders needs to face the daunting possibility that he might actually be president

 

Hail to the chief?

 

http://theweek.com/articles/604872/bernie-sanders-needs-face-daunting-po...

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Pundits think Bernie Sanders is doomed because he can't win nonwhite votes. I'm not so sure.

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/11/10961910/bernie-sanders-minority-vote

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Best election ad

 

Bernie's "Bring People Together"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbeBWGIZEnU

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Because Democracy!

https://youtu.be/OxkzXeZTUso

How Bernie beat Hillary but lost New Hampshire

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Even if he doesn't win Sanders has candidates on both sides at least talking about income inquality. Can't the experts see that too much income equality is bad for the economy? Maybe they aren't so expert after all, eh! 

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Sanders releases S.C. ad in bid to gain minority support

Never mind polls and endorsements favoring Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders isn’t ceding support from minority voters in South Carolina.

The Vermont independent highlights his civil rights record in a television ad released Saturday that will play in the state ahead of its Feb. 27, first-in-the-South primary.

A narrator reminds viewers Sanders participated in the historic March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom as a young college student and says he’s unafraid to challenge the status quo to end racial profiling, take on police misconduct and take down a system that profits from mass imprisonment.

“There is no president who will fight harder to end institutional racism,” Sanders says in the spot, which opens with a quotation from the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. “Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle.”


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/13/sander...

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Cornel West: Sanders is better for black people than Clinton

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/269374-cornel-west-sanders-is-better...

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Bernie Sanders Gaining On Hillary Clinton In Illinois

http://cops2point0.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-gaining-on-hillary-clinton...

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Bernie Sanders Presses Hillary Clinton To Demand DNC Keep Ban On Lobbyist Cash

http://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sanders-presses-hillary-clinton-demand-dnc...

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What is the signifivance if Sanders does indeed win Nevada?

Bernie Sanders Tells Volunteers in Reno to Expect Victory in Nevada

 

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Wisconsin Democratic Debate Shows Bernie Sanders Crippled Once Again By Obsession With Fussy Independents Plus Defeatist Advisers (and podcast)

http://tarpley.net/bernie-sanders-crippled-once-again-by-obsession-with-...

"Bernie needed to win with knockout punch to project momentum into southern and western states, but was paralyzed by Hillary's passive-aggressive, big-lie strategy..."

microcosmic look at BS, presidential primaries etc by W Tarpley

"Bernie, stop with the 'Winston Churchill"...

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Brilliant!  Smile

Bernie Sanders's Highly Sensible Plan to Turn Post Offices Into Banks

They're much less crazy than payday-lending services, and the rest of the world agrees.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/bernie-sanders-lets-...

lagatta

The Canadian Postal Workers had the same idea, based on France and elsewhere.

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It is a superb idea and banks with a unionized work force.  Smile

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lagatta,

The more I hear about Sanders the more I appreciate what he represents

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