Charlottesville Virginia :Car Plows Into Anti-Fascist Protesters

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Charlottesville Virginia :Car Plows Into Anti-Fascist Protesters

One Killed, More 'Extremely' Injured After Car Plows into Protesters at Charlottesville Rally (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/8k7a

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Charlottesville Declares State of Emergency Amid Violence At Far Right Rally

https://on.rt.com/8k6x

"The Unite The Right rally aims to 'unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown..."

 

2 Die in Police Helicopter Crash Amid Violent Protests in Charlottesville

https://on.rt.com/8k7i

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JKR

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

Paladin1

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

 

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

JKR

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

This sounds like a false-equivalency to me. I think Trump and the Republicans are continuing to court the white-supremists vote and this is strengthening the white-supremists. There is no equivalency between white-supremists and those opposed to racism. 

bekayne

And here's Julian Assange in action:

NDPP

Obviously Assange and Putin again!! 

https://twitter.com/StevenStreets/status/896583436147621888

"Doubt that the stars are fire but never doubt Putin's FSB infiltrated these alt-right groups to wage hybrid war against USA..."

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

Obviously Assange and Putin again!! 

https://twitter.com/StevenStreets/status/896583436147621888

"Doubt that the stars are fire but never doubt Putin's FSB infiltrated these alt-right groups to wage hybrid war against USA..."

So why would Assange spread false news generated by the alt-right? Simple question.

NDPP

Hillary Clinton

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/896463243366903808

"My heart is in Charlottesville today and with everyone made to feel unsafe in their country."

 

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josh
josh

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

Yes, and 

 

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

Yes, and when that guy drove his car into a crowd of people, killing a woman, it was just both sides engaging in violence.

Rev Pesky

Even the Republicans can't stomache Trump's non-response to the terrorist attack in Charlottesville:

Donald Trump under fire

Donald Trump has faced bi-partisan criticism after failing to explicitly condemn the role of white supremacists in clashes with counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, that culminated in a car running into a crowd, killing at least one person.

...There was strong reaction to Trump's refusal to denounce far-right extremists who had marched through the streets carrying flaming torches, screaming racial epithets and setting upon their opponents.

...Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio: “Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists.”

...Colorado Republican Senator Cory Gardner: “Mr. President – we must call evil by it’s name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.”

...Utah Republican Senator Orrin Hatch: “We should call evil by it’s name. My brother didn’t give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to unchallenged here at home”

...Former head of the KKK, David Duke: “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.”

The White House response also included a since deleted tweet from the Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert, in which he condemned ‘the violence and hate in Charllote.’ The city of Charlotte is in North Carolina.

Good for Trump though, that he got a mention by David Duke.  Nice to know who your friends really are.

Paladin1

JKR wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

This sounds like a false-equivalency to me. I think Trump and the Republicans are continuing to court the white-supremists vote and this is strengthening the white-supremists. There is no equivalency between white-supremists and those opposed to racism. 

 

It's not even as simple as left wing vs right wing where one side dominates the moral high ground. Both sides have their normal side and both have extreamists. For example there are homosexual, transgendered and POCs who identify as right wing who go to Trump rallies and wear MAGA hats.  Now they still get called Nazis and racists by some members on the left, which is silly.

Both sides have elements that are easily capable and in some cases very quick to violent behavior.

 

josh wrote:

Yes, and when that guy drove his car into a crowd of people, killing a woman, it was just both sides engaging in violence.

I don't know.

When James Hodgkinson,a left-wing activist, used a gun to shoot congressman Steve Scalise, at a baseball practice was it both sides engaging in violence?

  Any guesses what the narrative would have been among many in the left if the driver of that car was a left-wing activist who hit the moronic neonazis?

I'm guessing many would say they had it comming, they deserved it, that's what happens to racists etc.. Just like the right is doing now with stupid comments about not standing in the road.

When we make allowances for unacceptable or wrong behavior at anytime then we're guilty of enabling it.

6079_Smith_W

And when we reduce it to"everybody does it" we enable it as well.

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:
And when we reduce it to"everybody does it" we enable it as well.

Disagree depending on the context you're using. It's not "okay" becayse everyone does it. But I think that identifying that both sides are guilty of violence allows us to begin to move away with acting like one side is superior than the other and start addressing root issues like respect for each other and respect for freedom of speech. Freedom of peaceful assembly and the right to protest without having a bullhorn blasted in your ear, a sign smashed across your head or hit by a speeding car.

 

To quote Noam Chomsky again;

“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”

josh

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

This sounds like a false-equivalency to me. I think Trump and the Republicans are continuing to court the white-supremists vote and this is strengthening the white-supremists. There is no equivalency between white-supremists and those opposed to racism. 

 

It's not even as simple as left wing vs right wing where one side dominates the moral high ground. Both sides have their normal side and both have extreamists. For example there are homosexual, transgendered and POCs who identify as right wing who go to Trump rallies and wear MAGA hats.  Now they still get called Nazis and racists by some members on the left, which is silly.

Both sides have elements that are easily capable and in some cases very quick to violent behavior.

 

josh wrote:

Yes, and when that guy drove his car into a crowd of people, killing a woman, it was just both sides engaging in violence.

I don't know.

When James Hodgkinson,a left-wing activist, used a gun to shoot congressman Steve Scalise, at a baseball practice was it both sides engaging in violence?

  Any guesses what the narrative would have been among many in the left if the driver of that car was a left-wing activist who hit the moronic neonazis?

I'm guessing many would say they had it comming, they deserved it, that's what happens to racists etc.. Just like the right is doing now with stupid comments about not standing in the road.

When we make allowances for unacceptable or wrong behavior at anytime then we're guilty of enabling it.

So Nazis and those who come out to oppose them are equivalent?  Glad you weren't around in WWII.

josh

JKR wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

Trump has said that the blame for this incident should be placed on "many sides." He didn't mention white supremists, white nationalists or the alt-right!

I seen a few videos of the riots and fighting. It looks like both sides are aiming to smash each other up. One side is hardly less violent than the other. Willing to bet when each side plans these protests they do so hoping the other side shows up to counter protest.  Boring non-confrontational protests hardly make the news.

This sounds like a false-equivalency to me. I think Trump and the Republicans are continuing to court the white-supremists vote and this is strengthening the white-supremists. There is no equivalency between white-supremists and those opposed to racism. 

It doesn't just sound like false equivalence.

Aristotleded24

Paladin1 wrote:
When James Hodgkinson,a left-wing activist, used a gun to shoot congressman Steve Scalise, at a baseball practice was it both sides engaging in violence?

  Any guesses what the narrative would have been among many in the left if the driver of that car was a left-wing activist who hit the moronic neonazis?

When Hodgkinson shot Scalise, many on the left denounced that and called that out, including Bernie Sanders. If you saw any lefties cheering on that action, please share it with the rest of us.

To a point I agree that there are crazies on all sides and we all have to look in the mirror and examine ourselves from time to time, however to pretend as though that's where it ends when there is evidence of one side being worse (think of the neo-Nazi rally in front of the high school in Red Deer earlier this year) really misses the point as well. Just the fact that prominent Republicans are denouncing this as a terrorist attack by white nationalists says something.

Paladin1

josh wrote:

So Nazis and those who come out to oppose them are equivalent?  Glad you weren't around in WWII.

Come on Josh, let's not be too disambiguous here.

Are we talking about Nazi's during world war 2 or are we talking about Neo-Nazi's marching around and being assholes in 2017?  Two very different situations.  Are people who opposed Nazi's in WW2 the same as Nazi's? Well that depends, are the people opposing those WW2 Nazi's in question murdering innocent people too? Because then I'd say yes they sure are the same;murderers.

Are people who oppose Neo-Nazi's in 2017 the same as the Neo-Nazi's? Well that depends how they're behaving doesn't it. Is going up and punching someone in the face because you think they're a Neo-Nazi the same as a Neo-Nazi punching someone in the face for whatever reason?  I'd say yes.   

Paladin1

Aristotleded24 wrote:

When Hodgkinson shot Scalise, many on the left denounced that and called that out, including Bernie Sanders. If you saw any lefties cheering on that action, please share it with the rest of us.

Across social media. Like Greg here.

There's going to be tons of people on the left cheering on this kind of violence just like there will be tons of people on the left denouncing it. And the same for the right when the roles are reversed. That's my point.

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To a point I agree that there are crazies on all sides and we all have to look in the mirror and examine ourselves from time to time, however to pretend as though that's where it ends when there is evidence of one side being worse (think of the neo-Nazi rally in front of the high school in Red Deer earlier this year) really misses the point as well.

Are you talking about the Anti-Muslim protest over a school yard fight? If so I'm reading 5 members of the Sons of Odin showed up to join in the protest along side a bunch of other people. 5 members doesn't strike me as a significant neo nazi rally. Did the protest turn violent? I'm not sure what I'm looking for (not being passive-agressive here). They seem like a bunch of assholes for sure, 80% of whom I'm reading weren't even members of the community. Again, both sides have professional protestors.  watching videos of ANTIFA riots and such and how violent those are I'm standing by my views that both sides have elements that are equally violent and stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnq3RrCYG54

 

 

JKR

Paladin1 wrote:

josh wrote:

So Nazis and those who come out to oppose them are equivalent?  Glad you weren't around in WWII.

Come on Josh, let's not be too disambiguous here.

Are we talking about Nazi's during world war 2 or are we talking about Neo-Nazi's marching around and being assholes in 2017?  Two very different situations.  Are people who opposed Nazi's in WW2 the same as Nazi's? Well that depends, are the people opposing those WW2 Nazi's in question murdering innocent people too? Because then I'd say yes they sure are the same;murderers.

Are people who oppose Neo-Nazi's in 2017 the same as the Neo-Nazi's? Well that depends how they're behaving doesn't it. Is going up and punching someone in the face because you think they're a Neo-Nazi the same as a Neo-Nazi punching someone in the face for whatever reason?  I'd say yes.   

I think most people would have preferred it if someone had driven a car into a NAZI Hitler rally and killed Hitler before or during WW2. More importantly, I think that in and of itself the ideology of NAZI'ism is inherently evil while in and of itself the ideology of racial-equity is inherently good. So there is a crucial and inherent difference between NAZI'ism and anti-NAZI'ism. Even most Republicans can figure this out but not the current Republican president/fuhrer. 

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Trump has come out to blame the Left. The suspect of the terror attack that took place is being charged with 2nd degree murder even though the police called it a PREMEDITATED attack.

Trump's refusal to explicitly denounce the Nazis and KKK has been celebrated by Far right publications.

Why won't Trump come out and denounce these White Supremists? Because he is one himself and the 'people' he surrounds himself with (Miller,Gorka and Bannon)

Trump should immmediately fire Miller,Gorka and Bannon and RESIGN.

The lack of police (anyone remember Ferguson?) is to blame as well. No riot police,no militaristic ops..Because unlike Ferguson,the instigators were all white and right wing.

6079_Smith_W

This is murder, paladin. Not free speech.

Paladin1

JKR wrote:

I think most people would have preferred it if someone had driven a car into a NAZI Hitler rally and killed Hitler before or during WW2.

That opens a great philosophical debate. What if in order to kill Hitler you would also have to kill 150 innocent Germans at that rally as by standers. Worth it to kill Hitler?  Off topic though I'm sure.

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:
This is murder, paladin. Not free speech.

Yup. Hitting someone with a car on purpose is murder. If it was up to me I'd nail him with one count of murder and 19 attempted murders (or whatever the number of injured is). 

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

The lack of police (anyone remember Ferguson?) is to blame as well. No riot police,no militaristic ops..Because unlike Ferguson,the instigators were all white and right wing.

Interesting accusation. I looked at some videos to see if there were actually police presence or not. Looking at this hour long video during which the attack happened there is a hell of a lot of police out and about. Armored vehicles, riot control cops, even looks like members of the military in US military issused ACU camoflage are present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyVacUvvTtg

One thing I did notice from the videos I looked at is that a lot of people seem to show up in these dressed in psudo-riot gear themselves. Lots of baseball bats, especially in the video of where the attack too place.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Hitler apologist,Neo-Nazi apologist and KKK apologist. You're on the wrong board,son

https://www.dailystormer.com/

Here you go.you'll find a lot of like minded people there,I'm sure.

No need to thank me,it's my pleasure

 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

When you read the history of Nazi Germany, you'll find that one of Hitler's chief justifications was that they were standing up against leftist violence. Sure you want to dive down that rabbit-hole, Paladin?

JKR

Paladin1 wrote:

JKR wrote:

I think most people would have preferred it if someone had driven a car into a NAZI Hitler rally and killed Hitler before or during WW2.

That opens a great philosophical debate. What if in order to kill Hitler you would also have to kill 150 innocent Germans at that rally as by standers. Worth it to kill Hitler?  Off topic though I'm sure.

I think violent opposition was justified once Hitler's government initiated its racist policies and took away people's democratic rights and civil rights. The U.S. has basic democratic and civil rights so resorting to violence there is abhorrent. At this point I think it probably would be a good idea to have a huge anti-racism & anti white-supremacy rally in Washington DC. It would be great to see a million or more people in Washington DC protest the alt-right. Trump should be asked to speak at this anti-racist gathering and if he doesn't comply the gathering should then also target Trump and his links with the alt-right white supremacy movement.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

Hitler apologist,Neo-Nazi apologist and KKK apologist. You're on the wrong board,son

 

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, dad?

Just kidding Alan. That's some really wacky stuff to accuse me of.

But if you look at that first link I posted about police presence there is a hell of a lot, that's all.

I guess when it comes to the police it's like flipping a coin though eh? If nothing would have happened then we would have been calling the police out for their heavy presence, police state! mentality and military hardware. Look at the assault weapons helicopters and tanks! Fucking Nazi's! Police are wrong if they show up and wrong if they don't :)

Paladin1

Timebandit wrote:

When you read the history of Nazi Germany, you'll find that one of Hitler's chief justifications was that they were standing up against leftist violence. Sure you want to dive down that rabbit-hole, Paladin?

Nazi Germany was also one of the most diverse armies in WW2.  Spanish, German-Russian, Egyptian, Muslim, Irish, French, Polish, Italian.  Not exactly the white male only club we like to picture them as. Hitler would have used anything to rally people to his psychotic cause so I'm not surprised that standing up to leftist violence would have been one of his tricks (and examples of leftist violence would have played right into his hands too, I'm guessing).  Waffen SS was largely composed of non-Germanic volunteers. (Heinrich Himmler said people of Nordic decent were welcome to join in 1938)

 Nazi Germany is quite the different beast and quite different from Neo-Nazi losers.  I think Nazi Germany was really fucked up and monsterous but I don't like giving neo-nazis any sence of credibility by lumping them under their WW2 namestake.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Wacky? No, pretty much in line with you going into threads in the anti racism and feminism forums as an apologist for racism and sexism. You are now an apologist for neo-fascist violence as well. 

Paladin1

So I'm apologising for Nazis, Neo Nazis and the KKK? By suggesting what exactly? I don't recall saying they're justified or good people or have some kind of point. The only argument I have, which I dislike making, is that they're as entitled to peaceful protest as anyone else. And both sides of these protestors showing up in riot gear and melee weapons are guilty of enabling violence.

Rev Pesky

From Paladin 1:

...they're as entitled to peaceful protest as anyone else.

It wasn't exactly a 'peaceful' protest. According to the Guardian, which I posted above:

...far-right extremists who had marched through the streets carrying flaming torches, screaming racial epithets and setting upon their opponents.

To me that doesn't sound much like a peaceful protest. In fact, it sounds like what it was, an attempt to inimidate by a show of force. And what was the demonstration for? To protest the removal of a statue of General Robert E. Lee, Confederate General who fought to preserve slavery in the southern states, including Virginia.

Must've been nice for the black population of Charlottesville to be able to admire that statue as they used the park for family picnics. 

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Paladin1 wrote:

So I'm apologising for Nazis, Neo Nazis and the KKK? By suggesting what exactly? I don't recall saying they're justified or good people or have some kind of point. The only argument I have, which I dislike making, is that they're as entitled to peaceful protest as anyone else. And both sides of these protestors showing up in riot gear and melee weapons are guilty of enabling violence.

I'm an anti-fascist so pardon me when I get worked up when someone plays Devil's advocate and makes excuses for these White Nationalists/Supremists/Nazis.

I think everyone should be alarmed that the American President and his administration are all of the above.

When I see someone making excuses for a terror attack in which a young woman was KILLED,I tend to get upset.

I don't believe that  line of defense for the indefensible belongs here,hence me posting an online community/ comment board where that kind of horseshit is celebrated.

No, it wasn't the fault of both sides (or many sides as that Orange Fascist said).

This was a violent,terrorist attack and murder by a Fascist zealot. A zealot emboldened by a Fascist President.

This is not the place to make arguments , excuses and false equivalencies on behalf of a bunch of Fascists. If I'm wrong,I'd like someone other than yourself to correct me.

NDPP

Nazi Rampage Leaves One Dead, Dozens Injured in Charlottesville, Virginia

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/13/nazi-a13.html

 

Charlottesville: What You Wish Upon Others, You Wish Upon Yourself

https://t.co/KWnSd1dxPZ

"Torch Marches: Ukraine/USA

 

There are credible reports from both sides that raise serious questions about how Charlottesville authorities  allowed the situation to develop the way it did. Standard police procedures for keeping the sides apart weren't followed and  some say the opposing forces were 'steered' into close quarters where confrontation ensued.  

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Paladin, you are justifying violence by neofascists by saying counter protests "seemed" violent. What sparked all of this was not a peaceful protest. It was a virulently racist protest meant to threaten and intimidate. 

On this board, of all places, we shouldn't have to defend the counter protests. 

Paladin1

Rev Pesky wrote:

To me that doesn't sound much like a peaceful protest.

That's a great point, and one I'm trying to make too. Everyone has the right to peaceful protests, BUT, these protests we're seeing as of late are anything but peaceful. People routinely bring weapons and come equipped to fight it out with each other or the police.

 

alan smithee wrote:

I'm an anti-fascist so pardon me when I get worked up when someone plays Devil's advocate and makes excuses for these White Nationalists/Supremists/Nazis.

No worries Alan, I know this stuff strikes a cord with you and it's an emotion stiring situation. I didn't think I was making excuses for White Nationalists. I still don't.  Their message is fucking stupid just like anyone who thinks their race or religion put them above other human beings, IMO.

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When I see someone making excuses for a terror attack in which a young woman was KILLED,I tend to get upset.

No excuses expressed here. I said the attacker should be charged with murder and a dozen or more counts of attempted murder. I'm saying these things need to be more peaceful than less peaceful. Stop the violence on both sides.

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This was a violent,terrorist attack and murder by a Fascist zealot.

Yup.

 

Speaking of Charlottesville I seen this story.

 

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https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/08/female-reporter-allegedly-punched-...

In the wake of the deadly car attack in Charlottesville, Virginia on Saturday, a member of Antifa allegedly punched a female reporter for The Hill for trying to film the chaos at the rally. 

The incident has left at least one person dead with many more injured after a car slammed into a crowd of “anti-fascist” protesters that were responding to an alt-right protest in the city. The suspect driving the car, 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr, was identified by police late Saturday.

Taylor Lorenz was filming at the location of the incident.

According to the video which was given to The Daily Mail by Lorenz, who used to work for the outlet, a shirtless protester objected to her filming asked her to stop recording. Lorenz refused to put her camera away and the protester appears to punch her, shouting “stop fucking recording.” Lorenz can be heard shouting as others intervene while her phone hits the ground.

Lorenz claimed she was fine apart from being “really fucking pissed,” before explaining what happened on Twitter.

Paladin1

Timebandit wrote:

Paladin, you are justifying violence by neofascists by saying counter protests "seemed" violent. What sparked all of this was not a peaceful protest. It was a virulently racist protest meant to threaten and intimidate.

Well to me both sides seemed violent and came equipped and prepared to fight it out. Watch the videos, look at all the baseball bats, clubs, metal bars. I don't think either side had a right reason or excuse to be violent towards each other.

Whats the answer to that? Police searching everyone who assembles for a peaceful protest to look for weapons? I don't think getting searched by police would go over well. So what do you do about the weapons? Hell people are smashing each other up with protest signs.  Pretty hard to ban protest signs or especially cars. I don't have any answers how to curb the violence except for maybe moderates on both sides figuring out a way to deal with extreamists. I'm pretty sure there isn't much me you and Alan here would agree about but I'm pretty sure we could sit down over supper and have a respectful and polite conversation without you and Alan beating me up.

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Milo Yiannopoulos...Seriously?

And more false equivalencies...An antifa allegedly punching a reporter in the face and some short dicked militias with their penis extensions on display were not ALLEGEDLY but filmed,for real walking around. Not to mention other open carry idiots walking around to intimidate and threaten people.

Meanwhile you post a twitter comment of a Nazi ALLEGING antifa violence. Show me the tape. Show me the pictures. The militia groups were REAL and photographed ad nauseum.

As I directed to you for a more friendly conversation. https://www.dailystormer.com/

Talk with your peers.

wage zombie

Paladin1 wrote:

Speaking of Charlottesville I seen this story.

I'm not at all surprised to see Paladin1 acting as Nazi mouthpiece here.

Paladin1

Holy shit. I got promoted from Nazi apologist to full fleddged Nazi. I'll be damned. Everything makes sense now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

wage zombie

I'm not at all suprised that you, Paladin1, are carrying water for Nazis and making sure that their side of the story is told.

Paladin1

Maybe I just want to wash their feet, wage zombie?

I'm not really surprised by the narrative though. Disagree with someone? Call them a nazi. Wash rinse repeat lol

 

wage zombie

I guess I should have quoted Paladin1 to have a record of what he posted before he edited it.  I'm out of practice.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

The students surrounding the Jefferson monument the night of the torch march didn't "seem" violent. In fact, they were protesting peacefully when surrounded by torch-bearing neofascists and maced. A woman in a wheelchair was one of those maced. I can't imagine why anyone would bring a weapon after their peaceful counterprotest had been respected in such a way. 

Regardless, the neofascists' violent acts have far outweighed anything the counterprotestors have done. 

The idea that we could all sit down and get along depends on us being polite to you. I don't know that I'd be inclined. I think at this point my courtesy would only extend to declining to waste my time. 

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Now...let's see Yiannopoulos' proof.

And now I will play Devil's advocate. Let's say an antifa punched a reporter in the face how is that comparable to some nut ramming his car into a crowd of people?

And who the fuck would believe anything that Platinum haired degenerate has to say anyway?

The whole 'alt-right' are shameless liars.

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