Charlottesville Virginia :Car Plows Into Anti-Fascist Protesters

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JKR

WWWTT wrote:

JKR wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

josh wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

josh wrote:

What the hell does the KKK's formation in 1865 have to do with the Taliban government in 2001.

After NATO invaded Afghanistan the Taliban government became rebells. After the southern states lost the civil war, members of the southern states military formed the KKK.

Both groups are armed. Both groups use violence. Both groups have agendas. Both groups are racist towards others.

Now here's some differences. Taliban kills invading forces and other Afghanistanis who oppose. KKK kill who oppose. Oh wait that's a similarity  because the KKK views non whites and the US federal government as invaders! Sorry my bad!

And one was formed over 150 yeas ago, and withered away until being revived in the 1920s.  One of its strongest states was Indiana, a Union state.  It became not only an anti-black, but anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic organization.  And it never formed a government as the Taliban did in the last 20 years.  But they both roamed the earth.  So there's that.  So you can include the dinosaurs in your comparison.

Ya actually this isn't a match game. What I'm asking, is why can't the white racist momevent in the US (or anywhere else for that matter) be negotiated with? Negotiating with enemies is a reasonable peaceful approach, despite the violence caused by enemies. Also, this will always be a logical approach. But for some reason I do not see any such approach. Unless I'm missing something?

Could Africa Americans even conceive of negotiating their civil rights with the likes of the KKK?

what makes you think that taking away the rights of African Americans is the only thing that supremacist wants?  Have you had deep conversations with many? Perhaps there is something else? Perhaps there's something there that actually may be a common ground that everyone can agree on?  Or should we just assume right away it's impossible there can't be anything in common and don't even bother having an open communication from the start?

White supremists have the vote so they are already fairly represented. I see no reason to give them special status by entering into negotiations with them. In any case, this conversation has nothing to do with reality. The U.S is not about to negotiate with White-supremacists. Even Trump wouldn't consider it. But here on Babble we're discussing it? 

Someone said something earlier about silence being golden...

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Doug Woodard

CBC on Trump's latest and his staff's reaction:

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4248466

 

Rev Pesky

From WWWTT:

You find trying to find an end to violence to be funny? Ok so you don't think there's no room for negotiation dialogue or anything as such? The people who identify as white supremacist are not to be negotiated with. Haven't heard any suggestion yet about how to soften their perspective to be more inclusive.

​​As someone intelligently pointed out above, the neo-Nazi's and white supremacists have the right to vote. They are already included. They have the option of trying harder at the next election to put their agenda across.

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This man is more competent and more coherent than the bastard Trump.

josh

Shocking image of altleft attacking altright

https://mobile.twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/status/897582269308653568

WWWTT

alan smithee wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

lol

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/896820870898786304

Very good question. Unfortunately,there is no plausible answer.

LOL ya that's what I said when I opened that link you provided and found that this guy is a former war pig that helped the US imperial killing machine impose it's corporate will on foreign nations!

Would you fuck off? I'm serious. I told you I'm done with you. Move on. I'll let others entertain interacting with you.You fuckin' prick.

WOW You got a real mouth on you hey buddy! 

What's the matter, I poked too many holes in that war pigs link that you were so proud of?

Did you think I forgot about you?Oh no no my friend,  I'm saving the best for you, here's one just for you alan smithee! Just for you!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2016/08/09/trump_s_swearing_si...

OK...that's it. I've been here a long time. I don't think you have. Let me tell you something,in all my time here I've flagged a post ONCE and I've never contacted the mods but I've had it with you. You keep provoking,you're going to really get me mad and I'm going to get banned from here for telling you what I really think.

I'm flagging you. And now I'm going to ask you once again, Please FUCK OFF. Stop replying to my posts. I can't block you,but I could get you suspended and gawd willing I will.

Could someone please let me know how to contact the mods? This new layout at Babble makes it impossible to block people anymore,impossible to flag comments and impossible to contact the mods. If anyone can help me out,I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

oh so you been here a LONGER time than me so now you believe you're entitled to more than I hey???? Tell you what, you keep insulting me, using foul language towards me, and I keep getting in your face! But On the other hand if you apologize to me, then you can make a fresh start and we can all get along. Either way I'm not going to be intimidated by an internet tough guy!

Uh..that's not what I was saying. And why the fuck am I still getting messages from you? I thought I blocked you. Clearly that option doesn't work.

I was not implying that I was more 'entitled' than you because I was here longer. I was implying that in all the time I've been here I've flagged a post ONCE and never went to the mods.NEVER.

You really know how to push someone's buttons but I guess that's what makes you a great troll.

As for being an internet 'tough guy' lol

Ask anyone hear if I'm honest. Please be my guest. I've always been honest to the letter.

And I will tell you this. You wouldn't dare push my buttons like this in person. You'd be picking your teeth off the floor and eating from as straw for a month.

Again,not being a 'tough guy'just telling the truth.

Now for the THIRD time. Would you PLEASE FUCK OFF and leave me alone. You're nothing but a cocksucking motherfucker and  punk ass bitch internet troll. You have the balls of a mosquito and what has become clear,an unhealthy obsession with me. You can suck my dick,motherfucker. And I know you'd enjoy it.

And in true Babble fashion,I'm going to get in trouble for what I just said. I thank you. But since I'm not in a postion to kick every tooth out of your head,I can only provide my opinion. Which you can take to the bank is honest. Unlike yours. You're a fantastic troll. I'm sure if you'd leave your parents' basement for 5 minutes,you'd understand the first time when I asked you to leave me alone. Apparently,you're too stupid to comply or just a predictable troll. Either which way,I bit.Thank you,dipshit.

You may be a talented cocksucker but you definitley are a master troll. Now fuck off,cocksucker. You have a huge bowl of dicks to eat. Get your work done.

LOL..Moaist...label yourself what you like. The reality is you're a cocksucker who blows donkeys in Tijuana for 5 pesos.

Threatening me with violence now hey? Making sexual references and implying that my sexual orientation is something to be ashamed of hey? Wow you're a real sad sad sad poster here on this site. I honestly feel real sorry for you brother! You really should just apologize. And try to make amends. I never imagined someone filled with so much hatred towards another poster would be here on rabble? Ya that's real funny that you called me a Trump supporter. Well either way I'm not backing down from a bully like you and if you think bullying another poster is going to get you anything? Let's just put it this way, sometimes we learn things the easy way, sometimes we learn things the hard way!

WWWTT

Rev Pesky wrote:

From WWWTT:

You find trying to find an end to violence to be funny? Ok so you don't think there's no room for negotiation dialogue or anything as such? The people who identify as white supremacist are not to be negotiated with. Haven't heard any suggestion yet about how to soften their perspective to be more inclusive.

​​As someone intelligently pointed out above, the neo-Nazi's and white supremacists have the right to vote. They are already included. They have the option of trying harder at the next election to put their agenda across.

ok so you don't feel that maybe white supremacists may be suffering from the same lack of inequality as other minority's? The same lack of access to education health care social services, you don't feel these issues can harbour violence and hatred? You're not interested in finding common ground. But you're a strong supporter of the American democracy and that someone's vote will solve everything likity split! Ok got you. Thanks. 

WWWTT

josh wrote:

Shocking image of altleft attacking altright

https://mobile.twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/status/897582269308653568

perfect example of revisionist history! I never knew the military had a political left/right label? All I see in that link is war pigs.

voice of the damned

Smithee:

Is it utterly impossible for you to lay off the anti-gay slurs?

 

josh

WWWTT wrote:

josh wrote:

Shocking image of altleft attacking altright

https://mobile.twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/status/897582269308653568

perfect example of revisionist history! I never knew the military had a political left/right label? All I see in that link is war pigs.

Yes, war pigs.  The pigs that defeated Nazism and barbarism.  The pigs that gave their lives to do that.

You're a putz.

voice of the damned

As for WWWTT's Maoist identificiation, I couldn't hlep but think of this from 1980...

http://tinyurl.com/ycm2cksf

Argued that Maoists(on behalf of the international proletariat of course) needed to follow Deng Xiaoping's lead and ally with Ronald Reagan to defeat the Soviets.

Of course, the "left" arguments for allying with Trump are usually PRO-Russian, or just outright nihilist, ie. now that we've got a REAL effed-up fascist in there, the Empire will be crumbling down any day now.  

 

 

 

josh

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voice of the damned wrote:

Smithee:

Is it utterly impossible for you to lay off the anti-gay slurs?

 

That's funny VOAD. You certainly didn't come to my defense when this troublemaker started the shit show.

I was (as I always am) honest when I said if he kept on poking,prodding,provoking and trolling me,I'd lose my marbles. Which unfortunately I did. BVut where were you when he kept it up even after I (a) tried to ignore him (b) explicitly ask him to leave me alone and (c) when I tried to block him.

*crickets*

I'd come to your defense and I'd come to the defense of anyone else here. Instead,as per usual, I'm the one in the wrong.

As for gay slurs,if you read exactly what I said, I said he sucks big floppy donkey dicks. That's not an anti-gay slur last I checked.

But I've had it. The trolls and provacoteurs always get a free pass here. And this motherfucker is a text book troll,text book provacoteur and just a general flaming ASSHOLE. Has nobody noticed? I'll say it again.. I';m an ANTI-FASCIST,this prick is a nazi sympathizer and once again,I'm the villain.

If it makes you happy,I'll delete that post.

But I've asked this pissant THREE FUCKING TIMES to leave me the fuck alone. He's got a thick head and he's the one breaking babble policy with his nazi sympathies. NOT ME.

I don't know what I've done here to be the target of everyone's disdain. Is it because I'm honest? Is it because I use naughty language?

You read back his posts directed at me and tell me why or how I wouldn't fuckin' blow up. Before you rake me over the coals,understand what's happening and what's causing the reaction.

WWWTT

voice of the damned wrote:

Smithee:

Is it utterly impossible for you to lay off the anti-gay slurs?

 

And making threats of violence is perfectly OK? Or where you still getting around to that part?

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WWWTT wrote:

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LOL..Moaist...label yourself what you like. The reality is you're a cocksucker who blows donkeys in Tijuana for 5 pesos.

Threatening me with violence now hey? Making sexual references and implying that my sexual orientation is something to be ashamed of hey? Wow you're a real sad sad sad poster here on this site. I honestly feel real sorry for you brother! You really should just apologize. And try to make amends. I never imagined someone filled with so much hatred towards another poster would be here on rabble? Ya that's real funny that you called me a Trump supporter. Well either way I'm not backing down from a bully like you and if you think bullying another poster is going to get you anything? Let's just put it this way, sometimes we learn things the easy way, sometimes we learn things the hard way!

Please die a slow and painful death.

WWWTT

josh wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

josh wrote:

Shocking image of altleft attacking altright

https://mobile.twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/status/897582269308653568

perfect example of revisionist history! I never knew the military had a political left/right label? All I see in that link is war pigs.

Yes, war pigs.  The pigs that defeated Nazism and barbarism.  The pigs that gave their lives to do that.

You're a putz.

No actually your a revisionalist! You're trying to rewrite history to fit your agenda! Your using one group that uses hatred to prop another group that did the exact same thing! You're taking an event and pulling it out of history to create an illusion to support a certain group! Perfect example of revisionist history.

Oh and by the way, the Japanese killed 20 million Chinese!!!! But I guess the "left" in the west can't somehow find anything in that tragedy to use hey? But when white jews die, it's game on! Maybe Chinese people just aren't white enough for white people to feel sorry for hey?

Oh and by the way, where was the left when this happened?

http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/2010/12/22/when-you-kill-ten-million-afr...

WWWTT

alan smithee wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

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LOL..Moaist...label yourself what you like. The reality is you're a cocksucker who blows donkeys in Tijuana for 5 pesos.

Threatening me with violence now hey? Making sexual references and implying that my sexual orientation is something to be ashamed of hey? Wow you're a real sad sad sad poster here on this site. I honestly feel real sorry for you brother! You really should just apologize. And try to make amends. I never imagined someone filled with so much hatred towards another poster would be here on rabble? Ya that's real funny that you called me a Trump supporter. Well either way I'm not backing down from a bully like you and if you think bullying another poster is going to get you anything? Let's just put it this way, sometimes we learn things the easy way, sometimes we learn things the hard way!

Please die a slow and painful death.

Ya you're a real sad poster! Keep digging that hole you feel so comfortable living in. Like I said before, your comments are a reflection of who you are. Why would you wish someone pain and suffering? It's incredible that you claim to not be a racist when you write the exact same things a racist would want to happen to another person they did no like.  Still not too late for you to apologize and change your ways!