Chavez Calls for International Organisation of Left Parties

Left Turn
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Left Turn
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Venezuela's Chavez Calls for International Organisation of Left Parties

 

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"I assume responsibility before the world. I think it is time to convene the Fifth International, and I dare to make the call, which I think is a necessity. I dare to request that we create my proposal," Chavez said.

The head of state insisted that the conference of left parties should not be "just one more meeting," and he invited participating organizations to create a truly new project. "This socialist encounter should be of the genuine left, willing to fight against imperialism and capitalism," he said.

 


Jacob Richter
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If only he did not legitimize the sectarian mistake known as the "Fourth International," to echo Louis Proyect's sentiments. Embarassed


RosaL
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Jacob Richter wrote:

If only he did not legitimize the sectarian mistake known as the "Fourth International," to echo Louis Proyect's sentiments. Embarassed

 

heh. i had the same thought Wink


Jacob Richter
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The only legitimate internationals are:

International Workingmen's Association

Second International: This is the first "Socialist International," up to and including the anti-war Basel Congress of 1912.

Communist International: Personally I'd throw away the Seventh Congress, since it advocated the class collaborationism of Popular Fronts, and the extent to which the Second to Sixth Congresses should be critically upheld or rejected is up for debate.  There should be absolutely no question on the validity of the First Congress in 1919, though.

International Working Union of Socialist Parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Working_Union_of_Socialist_Pa...): Although this is the "centrist"/"Kautskyite" formation formed just after the war, this international's emphasis on more consideration being given to national situations is more than justified, with the Comintern eventually becoming a Soviet fan club.

International Revolutionary Marxist Centre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Revolutionary_Marxist_Centre): The mere existence of this international shows the outright sectarianism of the "Fourth International" in the first place.


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Valtar Pomar, international relations secretary of the Workers' Party (PT) of Brazil outlined his party's position, putting forward a strategy focused on unity around regional integration, or in more classical terms "anti-imperialism." If we made socialism our lowest common denominator for unity, this would inevitably lead to division; for this reason, Pomar contended, the PT would continue to prioritize the Sao Paulo Forum (FSP).

Minimum: Anti-imperialist. Maximum: socialism for the 21st century.

 

Chavez calls for a 5th International (with video)


Jacob Richter
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The Brazilian Workers party is not a proletarian-not-necessarily-communist party, but a bourgeois labour party.  It seeks none of these things: "formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy [by establishing its own cultural hegemony], conquest of [ruling-class] political power by the proletariat."

The lowest common denominators should be a commitment to class struggle of the workers (as opposed to fashionable identity politics of gender/culture/race, Green politics, etc. and expressed explicitly in terms of having only those of a non-working-class background in the party, to the exclusionary disappointment of the typical Student Leftist), a commitment to a participatory economy free of private property and other elitism, a commitment to at least international if not transnational politics, and a commitment to the "genuine political party" model that also incorporates movement and mutual aid functions.


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