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Child abuse: Pope's brother admits part of what he did and knew

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Pope's brother asks forgiveness over violence at school

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Georg Ratzinger, 86, who was choirmaster at the Regensburger Domspatzen in Bavaria between 1964 to 1994, said he occasionally struck boys in his care, according to what he said had been the "normal reaction" at the time.

But he denied any knowledge of sexual abuse. "These things were never discussed," Ratzinger told the Catholic daily, the Passauer Neue Presse. "The problem of sexual abuse that has now come to light was never spoken of." [...]

The revelations from Regensburg are the latest in a string of abuse scandals to have shaken the Catholic church in Germany since January. On an almost daily basis new incidents have come to light over abuse at church-run schools which took place over decades and in recent days reported incidents have also started coming from Austria and the Netherlands.

The pope himself is likely to be called to question over how much he personally knew of sexual abuse in the church during his time as professor of theology in the 1960s, most prominently at Regensburg University and later as Archbishop of Munich and Freising between 1971 and 1982.

 

 


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A Nazi and front and center when the pedophiles were running the schools.


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Hmm I dont think he qualifies as a Nazi since he got drafted at 18, sevred in the army, promptly wounded and captured in Italy. Can't argue with the rest of the statement tho


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And now more news about Catholic Church pedophilia, one of the most damaging forms of child abuse, has surfaced.

It seems that there could be an indentured culture of pedophilia in the Catholic Church, an acceptance of pedophilia for Priests that could go back 100s of years.

This could be the result of the demand for celibacy that is unattainable for many Priests, and in order to not lose them the Catholic Church had developed this culture of acceptance of pedophilia. The strict forbiddance of abortions means that females are not acceptable sexual partners.

Furthermore, the coverup by the Catholic Church might be an indication of a indentured culture of pedophilia there. Certainly, it shows more of a concern for their pedophile Priests than for their victims.

 

News of sexual abuse of boys in the Catholic Church:

1] Experts: Catholic church covered up child abuse

Irish archbishops protected reputation at expense of victims, report says


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34163214/ns/world_news-world_faith

2] Sex abuse scandals in the Catholic church


http://tinyurl.com/ye3djxh

Wed, Mar 10 01:35 AM

REUTERS - The Roman Catholic Church is under increasing scrutiny as allegations of child sexual abuses by priests have emerged in several European countries.

Following are details of some of the major abuse scandals:

* NETHERLANDS: More than 200 Catholics have come forward in the past week with reports of abuse after a report by Radio Netherlands Worldwide and newspaper NRC Handelsblad that three priests from the Salesian order abused pupils decades ago at a boarding school.

* GERMANY: The Regensburg diocese said last week in a statement that one priest abused two boys sexually in 1958 and was sentenced to two years in jail. Another clergyman served 11 months in jail in 1971 for abuse. It mentioned three men who claimed to have suffered sexual abuse in the early 1960s by several unnamed teachers while they were at boarding schools connected to the "Regensburger Domspatzen" (Regensburg Cathedral Sparrows), the official choir for the diocese.

-- Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, head of the German Bishops Conference, apologised last month for sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests after more than 100 cases were reported in Jesuit boarding schools around the country.

* IRELAND:

-- April 2002 - Bishop Brendan Comiskey of Ferns, one of Ireland's best-known clerics, resigned over his handling of charges against a priest of his diocese who committed suicide in 1999 while facing 66 charges of sexual abuse.

-- May 2009 - The Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse issued a five-volume report that took nine years to compile. It said priests beat and raped children during decades of abuse in Catholic-run institutions.

-- Nov. 2009 - The Murphy report, a government-commissioned inquiry into abuse in Dublin from 1975 to 2004 released on Nov. 26, 2009, said church authorities covered up widespread cases of child sexual abuse until the mid-1990s.

-- Dec. 2009 - After meeting two Irish Church leaders, Pope Benedict said he shared the "outrage, betrayal and shame" over the scandal in Ireland.

-- Last month, Benedict held crisis talks with 24 Irish bishops at the Vatican. A Vatican statement after the talks called child sexual abuse by priests a "heinous crime" and said the bishops had promised the pope they were committed to cooperating with authorities. Four bishops have offered their resignations and the pope has so far accepted one.

* UNITED STATES:

-- Dec. 2002 - Boston's Cardinal Bernard Law resigned over charges he transferred clerical abusers to other parishes to cover up the scandal.

-- June 2002 - The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops directed dioceses to investigate all charges of sexual abuse.

-- Feb. 2004 - Independent researchers commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said a total of 10,667 people had accused U.S. priests of child sexual abuse from 1950 through 2002. More than 17 percent of accusers had siblings who were also allegedly abused. Among accusers, 47 percent said they had been abused numerous times.

-- July 2007, Archdiocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay $660 million to 500 victims of sexual abuse dating as far back as the 1940s, in the largest compensation deal of its kind.

-- April 2008 Pope Benedict met victims of sexual abuse by priests during his visit to the United States. The U.S. church has paid some $2 billion in settlements to victims since the scandal first broke in 1992.

-- Oct. 2009 - The diocese of Wilmington, Delaware filed for bankruptcy protection. It later agreed to provide documents to alleged sex abuse victims to postpone the start of about 80 civil cases. Since 2002, the Wilmington diocese has settled eight cases for an average of about $780,000 each.

* BRITAIN - July 2000 - London Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor acknowledged making a mistake in a previous post in the 1980s by allowing a paedophile priest to continue working. The priest was jailed in 1997 for abusing nine boys over a 20-year period.

* AUSTRIA - July 2004 - Austrian News magazine Profil ran pictures of priests kissing and groping seminarians at a Roman Catholic seminary in the St. Poelten diocese.

* AUSTRALIA -- July 2008 - On a visit to Australia, Pope Benedict apologised for sexual abuse by clergy, condemning it as "evil" and saying abusers should be brought to justice. At that time there had been 107 convictions for sexual abuse in the Catholic church there.

* MEXICO - March 2009 - Pope Benedict ordered a probe of the Legion of Christ priestly order whose founder was discovered to be a sexual molester. In 2006, Pope Benedict told the founder, Father Marcial Maciel, to retire to a life of "prayer and penitence". Maciel died in 2008.

* CANADA - Oct 2009 - Bishop Raymond Lahey of Antigonish in Nova Scotia was charged with possession and importation of child pornography. Earlier that year, he had overseen a C$13 million ($12 million) settlement with clerical abuse victims in the Antigonish diocese in a case dating back to 1950.

Sources: Reuters/United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

 

 


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From this article:

The Vatican moved to defuse criticism after German Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger said Monday a Vatican secrecy rule has played a role in a "wall of silence" surrounding sexual abuse of children.

I have an idea.  How about countries where the Vatican is playing "secrecy rule" games that interfere with investigations of sexual and physical abuse of children say, "Okay, have all the secrecy you want.  Meanwhile, we'll be expropriating all the land and buildings your churches are on in OUR country so that you can't cover up anymore pedophile rings in them, since you won't let our authorities investigate once they're discovered."


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The Pope's Nazi background serves him well when it comes to perpetrating the Big Lie - that the growing outcry about child abuse is just an attempt to undermine the Church's business model:

Vatican sees bid to tarnish Church amid abuse row

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The Vatican criticized on Tuesday what it said was a bid to undermine the Church, which is facing a deepening scandal over child abuse by priests in Europe.

As fresh allegations mounted against clergy in Austria, adding to hundreds of cases in Germany and the Netherlands, Vatican Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone acknowledged that confidence in the Church had declined.

"There has been a reduction in faith in all institutions including the Church," said Bertone, number two in the Vatican hierarchy, after meeting Italian business leaders.

"The Church still enjoys great confidence on the part of the faithful, it is just that someone is trying to undermine that," he said, without referring directly to the pedophilia scandal. "But the Church has special help, from above."[...]

In recent weeks, senior prelates have said it is unfair to single out the Church for child abuse, which also occurs in secular institutions. They have accused the media of exaggerating the problem.

These wretched creatures are now borrowing talking points from Israel - "hey, you anti-semites, don't single us out, what about Iran, Darfur, and Attila the Hun!!"


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Let's not forget the recent allegations in Brazil as well.

 

Cardinal Sean Brady ashamed of abuse 'failings'

 

Allegations

Fr Smyth was eventually convicted of dozens of offences against children.

But despite allegations being previously investigated by church officials, including Cardinal Brady it was almost 20 years before he was brought to justice.

Northern Ireland's deputy first minister, Martin McGuinness has said Cardinal Brady "should consider his position".

He questioned how many other children were asked to stay silent.

However, NI Secretary of State Shaun Woodward said people should not "rush to judgement" on the issue.

Critics of the cardinal have accused him of colluding with clerical child sexual abuse and pressuring victims to remain silent.

The Rape Crisis Network Ireland (RCNI) said Cardinal Brady's position had become untenable.

Hundreds of allegations, many going back decades, of systematic child abuse by Catholic clergy have come to light this year across Europe.

The scandal has surfaced in Germany - Pope Benedict's homeland - Switzerland, Austria and the Netherlands.

Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Wednesday the only way to come to terms with it was to find out everything that has happened.

Earlier, scandals have rocked the Catholic Church in the United States, Canada, Australia and Mexico.

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8572081.stm


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Calamity for pope as the past - and case of Peter Hullermann - returns to haunt him

Child abuse by German cleric among claims causing crisis for Vatican

 

  700 new sex abuse cases have recently come to light in what has been said to be 'the worst crisis for the Vatican since the middle ages'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/19/pope-catholic-church-sex-abuse


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What do they expect will be done about it when we can't even make a citizens arrest of notorious war criminals here in the so-called advanced democracies?


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There has already been a bunch of lawsuits, parishioners must be reducing their contributions, and there are many more lawsuits to come. Could the sum total put the RC church into bankruptcy?


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The pope needs to resign. But that's never gonna happen. 

 

Christopher Hitchens: The great Catholic cover-up

 

 

Concerning the most recent revelations about the steady complicity of the Vatican in the ongoing - indeed endless - scandal of child rape, a few days later a spokesman for the Holy See made a concession in the guise of a denial. It was clear, said the Rev. Federico Lombardi, that an attempt was being made "to find elements to involve the Holy Father personally in issues of abuse." He stupidly went on to say that "those efforts have failed."

He was wrong twice. In the first place, nobody has had to strive to find such evidence: It has surfaced, as it was bound to do. In the second place, this extension of the awful scandal to the topmost level of the Roman Catholic Church is a process that has only just begun. Yet it became in a sense inevitable when the College of Cardinals elected, as the vicar of Christ on Earth, the man chiefly responsible for the original cover-up. (One of the sanctified voters in that "election" was Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, a man who had already found the jurisdiction of Massachusetts a bit too warm for his liking.)

There are two separate but related matters here: First, the individual responsibility of the Pope in one instance of this moral nightmare and, second, his more general and institutional responsibility for the wider lawbreaking and for the shame and disgrace that goes with it. The first story is easily told, and it is not denied by anybody. In 1979, an 11-year-old German boy identified as Wilfried F. was taken on a vacation trip to the mountains by a priest. After that, he was administered alcohol, locked in his bedroom, stripped naked and forced to suck the penis of his confessor. (Why do we limit ourselves to calling this sort of thing "abuse"?) The offending cleric was transferred from Essen to Munich for "therapy" by a decision of then-Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, and assurances were given that he would no longer have children in his care. But it took no time for Ratzinger's deputy, Vicar General Gerhard Gruber, to return him to "pastoral" work, where he soon enough resumed his career of sexual assault.

It is, of course, claimed, and it will no doubt later be partially un-claimed, that Ratzinger himself knew nothing of this second outrage. I quote, here, from the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a former employee of the Vatican Embassy in Washington and an early critic of the Catholic Church's sloth in responding to child-rape allegations. "Nonsense," he says. "Pope Benedict is a micromanager. He's the old style. Anything like that would necessarily have been brought to his attention. Tell the vicar general to find a better line. What he's trying to do, obviously, is protect the Pope."

This is common or garden stuff, very familiar to American and Australian and Irish Catholics whose children's rape and torture, and the cover-up of same by the tactic of moving rapists and torturers from parish to parish, has been painstakingly and comprehensively exposed. It's on a level with the recent belated admission by the Pope's brother, Monsignor Georg Ratzinger, that while he knew nothing about sexual assault at the choir school he ran between 1964 and 1994, now that he remembers it, he is sorry for his practice of slapping the boys around.

Very much more serious is the role of Joseph Ratzinger, before the church decided to make him supreme leader, in obstructing justice on a global scale. After his promotion to cardinal, he was put in charge of the so-called "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" (formerly known as the Inquisition). In 2001, Pope John Paul II II placed this department in charge of the investigation of child rape and torture by Catholic priests. In May of that year, Ratzinger issued a confidential letter to every bishop. In it, he reminded them of the extreme gravity of a certain crime. But that crime was the reporting of the rape and torture. The accusations, intoned Ratzinger, were only treatable within the church's own exclusive jurisdiction. Any sharing of the evidence with legal authorities or the press was utterly forbidden. Charges were to be investigated "in the most secretive way ... restrained by a perpetual silence ... and everyone ... is to observe the strictest secret which is commonly regarded as a secret of the Holy Office ... under the penalty of excommunication." Nobody has yet been excommunicated for the rape and torture of children, but exposing the offence could get you into serious trouble. And this is the church that warns us against moral relativism! (See, for more on this appalling document, two reports in the London Observer of April 24, 2005, by Jamie Doward.)

Not content with shielding its own priests from the law, Ratzinger's office even wrote its own private statute of limitations. The church's jurisdiction, claimed Ratzinger, "begins to run from the day when the minor has completed the 18th year of age" and then lasts for 10 more years. Daniel Shea, the attorney for two victims who sued Ratzinger and a church in Texas, correctly describes that latter stipulation as an obstruction of justice. "You can't investigate a case if you never find out about it. If you can manage to keep it secret for 18 years plus 10, the priest will get away with it."

 

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/18/...

 


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Troubles mount for Joseph Ratzinger

It's way past time to sell the off the finacial holdings of the RC Church and give the proceeds to the less fortunate in life.  

 

Pope Benedict accused of ignoring abuse allegations against Hullerman

 

 

 

He was still working as a priest right up until last Monday when, at the age of 62, he was suspended from his duties at a Bavarian tourist resort for breaching a church order in 2008 to avoid any involvement with children.

This unholy saga, reflecting both the severity of clerical abuse and the failure to stop it, goes to the heart of the gravest crisis the Roman Catholic church has faced since the wartime Pope Pius XII was accused of responding inadequately to the Holocaust.

It also raises questions about Pope Benedict's responses to mounting allegations of paedophilia in the church. According to a report in Der Spiegel, the German magazine, Benedict knew about the allegations against Hullermann in 1980 but chose not to report them to the police.

 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7069826.ece


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Pope Forgives Molested Children.  Snerk. :/

 

 


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This Ratzinger is quite the charmer.

 

Pope 'failed to discipline US priest' who abused deaf children

Pope declined to defrock Father Lawrence Murphy while head of church's doctrinal enforcement institution, US newspaper claims

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/25/pope-us-priest-children-abuse


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Vatican defends Pope - but the victims are speaking out

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Francis Hughes, Lincolnshire, UK:

The Church is like a sinking ship, almost going under while it puts its head in the sand.

There is a drip, drip, drip of more and more cases coming out and the buck stops with the Pope.

He has been guilty of cover-ups as a Cardinal, but has never volunteered that information.

The Vatican now has to get its house in order and admit that its whole outlook has been wrong over many years.

It needs to come clean and open up. That would gain it a lot of respect.

I also believe the Pope should resign in order to shake things up even further and the Church should appoint someone who can carry out the necessary changes needed.


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This would be a good time to demand that churches be taxed, like any other businesses.  The revenue would go their victims.


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Joey Ramone wrote:

This would be a good time to demand that churches be taxed, like any other businesses.  The revenue would go their victims.

No, Joey, with respect, taxes should go to the government. Compensation for victims should come from their profits and, if that's not enough, through confiscation of wealth.


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Agreed Unionist, but I meant that the government should tax churches, like it taxes any other business, and then pay all or some of that revenue to the churches' victims.  But I agree with you that, in addition to taxes, church property should also be confiscated and paid out to the victims.  I know countless residential school survivors who suffered at the hands of priests and nuns.  It pisses me off that the compensation to them comes almost entirely from public revenue, which the churches don't contribute to.


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Most churches do not run their own banks..... unlike the Catholic Church

The comments that the Rat had said in response to this pedeophilia by priests,  are just yuk....

 


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remind wrote:
The comments that the Rat had said in response to this pedeophilia by priests,  are just yuk....

 

He just doesn't get it... which is why the Vatican needs to 'clean house'.


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No boom boom, he does not get it and apparently because he is now infallable, he does not have to get it.

 

His comments indicated the Catholic Church was worth more than those 100's of thousands of lives they have destroyed.

 

That that priest took advantage of hearing impaired children  and sexually abused them was/is nauseating.


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remind wrote:
That that priest took advantage of hearing impaired children  and sexually abused them was/is nauseating.

 

Cross-posted to the other forum I participate on:

 

I was born very hard of hearing, not totally deaf. My mother (probably on the advice of higher-ups) wanted to send me to this place (Belleville School For The Deaf) in the 1950s - and I said no way in the strongest possible terms.


Abuse at school for the deaf prompts suit by former students

 




Even as a precocious young kid I knew how to make good choices for my life, and I knew I did NOT want to be separated from my family and friends at such a young age to be sent to a residential school for the Deaf. I had a sense of impending dread which I continue to feel to this day - more than 50 years later - about the Belleville School for the Deaf. Even at 7 or 8 I knew I wanted to go to a normal hearing school with the best hearing aid we could afford, and do my best both to fit in and get through the courses of study. It meant our family paying for a speech therapist, but we could afford one.


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Oh, what a shock - the Pope has found a Canadian to defend his crimes! Oh wait, I think he may be on the Papal Payroll:

Canada's top cardinal defends Pope

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Canada’s top Roman Catholic cardinal, Quebec City Archbishop Marc Ouellet, is denouncing allegations Pope Benedict XVI covered up cases of sexual abuse by priests.

In a statement released Friday, Ouellet, who is primate of the Roman Catholic Church in Canada, accused members of the media of having ulterior motives for their attempts to link the Pope to cases of sexual abuse.

The Pope has always shown a "zero tolerance" attitude towards sexual assaults committed by members of the clergy at each step of his career in the church, said Ouellet.

This must be from the Vatican's version of The Onion or This Hour Has 22 Minutes.

Babblers will recall Mondinosaur Ouellet for liking Québec better before the Quiet Revolution, when saying bad things about the Pope could actually get you into deep ecclesial shit.

 


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Can a pope resign from office?

The possibility has been raised that Pope Benedict XVI should resign over the snowballing paedophile priest scandal in the Catholic Church.

Having said all this, the likelihood of Pope Benedict voluntarily laying down his high office remains slim.

The Vatican is for the moment vigorously defending the record of his five-year papacy, and Benedict's previous conduct during the period when he was Cardinal Archbishop of Munich and subsequently head of the CDF, the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the watchdog Vatican department responsible for disciplining priests guilty of bad conduct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8590308.stm


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These priests sure sound like they are under seige. I suppose then, this puts me on the side of Satan!

 

Child abuse scandal is war 'between church and world', says Italian bishop

Allegations of cover-up reach Pope in case of abusive priest who was assigned pastoral work

 

Italy's foreign minister, Franco Frattini, said on his Facebook site that the pope was being subjected to "scandalous and disgraceful" attacks. One churchman, Antonio Riboldi, the emeritus bishop of Acerra, declared that it marked the start of a war "between the church and the world; between Satan and God".

Today's allegation arose from the case of Father Peter Hullerman, a paedophile who in 1980 was transferred to the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger's diocese for therapy. Instead, after just a few days, he was assigned to pastoral work.

Hullerman went on to abuse at least one boy - a crime of which he was later convicted in a secular court. When the affair came to light this month, the diocese's former vicar-general, Father Gerhard Gruber, accepted full responsibility for the mistake.

However, according to a report in today's New York Times, Benedict's office was copied in on the memo Gruber issued transferring Hullerman to parish duties. It also said that the future pope had chaired the diocesan council meeting at which it was agreed the priest should be allowed to come to Munich.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/child-abuse-scandal-catholic...


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This stonewalling by the Vatican to cover Ratzinger's ass, and that's all this really is about, must be making some countries seriously think about giving them the boot, shutting them down, or at least stripping them of all their buildings, lands, and financial resources. In this 21st century, maybe it's time to shut down the theological schools affiliated with universities, etc. I mean where were the other religious voices during this major religious child abuse era.  


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Maybe the Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Nichols should step down too.

 

 

British protesters demand Pope quits over abuse

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gFKeGxP4ewverRajpewL1M...


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I was reading Trinity Magazine - a publication of Trinity College, Toronto, where I did my Master's, and a new priest who is working in the far north reports that the damage from residential schools there will likely take seven generations to heal.Frown


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