CIA orders civilan aircraft shot down - isn't that terrorism?

Frustrated Mess
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With the help of CIA spotters, the Peruvian air force shot down 15 small civilian aircraft suspected of carrying drugs, in many cases without warning and within two to three minutes of being sighted, a U.S. lawmaker said Thursday.

It was the first public disclosure of the number of planes shot down between 1995 and 2001 as part of the Airbridge Denial Program, a CIA counternarcotics effort that killed an innocent American missionary, Veronica Bowers, and her infant daughter in 2001. A State Department investigation at the time said that Peruvian fighter jets forced another 23 planes to land.

Michigan Rep. Pete Hoekstra, senior Republican on the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives, told The Associated Press most of the 15 planes shot down with the help of the CIA crashed in the jungle. The wreckage has not been or could not be examined to ascertain whether narcotics were aboard the aircraft.

"The Bowers could have gone in the same category if they had crashed in the jungle," Hoekstra said, speaking of the missionary family from Hoekstra's state, Michigan.

http://www.truthout.org/121208T


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old_bolshie
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Old Old News this.

 

If you go on Youtube there's some great footage of small aircraft being taken out by the Colombian Air Force.


Frustrated Mess
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Actually it is new. Just reported yesterday. I swear.




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Missionaries, human rights activists, communists etc mucking around in the backyard are interchangeable as far as the CIA is concerned. They're all foes to the vicious empire in their war on democracy


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Frustrated Mess wrote:
Actually it is new. Just reported yesterday. I swear.

 

 I think old_bullshi means it's old news for him. He may have been in on the planning stages.


Frustrated Mess
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I was being facetious. I imagine this matters because a Missionary and her child was killed. If they turn out to be white all hell, I'm sure, will break out because those are lives that matter.




old_bolshie
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The dead missionary and her kid are Old News I heard about it way back when.

 Her church tried to raise some stink and were told to STFU by the US Gubmint and so they did.

End.of.story. 

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Frustrated Mess
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Yeah, yeah, sure ya did. I'm presuming you're familiar with peyote buttons?




old_bolshie
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People in Peru don't take Peyote that's _Mexican_, occasionally some Peruvians will use San Pedro Cactus but it's never done a thing for me.

 Here's the archived info BTW on the crash-see how out of touch you really are?

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/04/21/peru.plane.02/

 

If that doesn't work go to your favourite search engine-you know how to use a search engine right?

 

Then type in missionary peru plane crash, the first dozen or so results are from the same NYT story way down the line is the original story-the one no one cared about almost 8 years ago.

 

this from the story

A U.S. reconnaissance plane, helping the Peruvians detect aircraft usedin drug trafficking, was near the Peruvian military plane at the timeof the incident but was unarmed and did not participate in shooting atthe missionaries' plane, said a spokesman for the U.S. embassy in Lima.

According to a statement issued by the U.S. State Department, the U.S. reconnaissance plane provided location data for the subsequent intercept mission that was conducted by the Peruvian Air Force. ...


Frustrated Mess
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Uh, so then you can read? Excellent. Progress is possible even for the hallucinagen addled.

So what is different in today's story? What is it? What is it? Oh, yeah, I remember? 

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Excerpts from a CIA inspector general's report released in November raised questions about whether the missionaries' plane was the only craft mistakenly suspected of drug smuggling. The CIA report said that in most of the shootdowns, pilots fired on aircraft "without being properly identified, without being given the required warnings to land, and without being given time to respond to such warnings as were given to land."

    The IG report said the CIA withheld from the National Security Council, Justice Department and Congress the results of multiple investigations that documented continuous and significant violations of aircraft interception procedures created to prevent the shoot-down of planes unconnected with the drug trade. The classified report was completed in August and sent to Congress in October.

    The CIA report directly contradicted the State Department's findings in 2001. The State Department at the time said the other planes were shot down only after "exhausting international procedures for interception."

I think that's called culpability. But of course, we know there'll never be justice as that's for suckers.

Hey, where do most US veterans find affordbale housing? Prison.

 


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Backyard Terrorism in the U.S. Monbiot (2001)

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Argentina's dictators Roberto Viola and Leopoldo Galtieri, Panama's Manuel Noriega and Omar Torrijos, Peru's Juan Velasco Alvarado and Ecuador's Guillermo Rodriguez all benefited from the school's instruction. So did the leader of the Grupo Colina death squad in Fujimori's Peru; four of the five officers who ran the infamous Battalion 3-16 in Honduras (which controlled the death squads there in the 1980s) and the commander responsible for the 1994 Ocosingo massacre in Mexico.

All this, the school's defenders insist, is ancient history. But SOA graduates are also involved in the dirty war now being waged, with US support, in Colombia.  In 1999 the US State Department's report on human rights named two SOA graduates as the murderers of the peace commissioner, Alex Lopera. Last year, Human Rights Watch revealed that seven former pupils are running paramilitary groups there and have commissioned kidnappings, disappearances, murders and massacres. In February this year an SOA graduate in Colombia was convicted of complicity in the torture and killing of 30 peasants by paramilitaries. The school is now drawing more of its students from Colombia than from any other country.

 

 

An excerpt from

Tricks of the Trade: Alfred McCoy On How The CIA Got Involved In Global Drug Trafficking  (2003)  

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Now let’s take Peru.  During the 1990s, the pursuit of the drug war there brought the CIA into alliance with Vladimiro Montesinos, the head of state security under the Fujimori dictatorship.  Today, he is in prison for corruption and his overseas bank accounts hold a quarter of a billion dollars in illicit funds.  He was the man who single-handedly corrupted Peruvian democracy.  And while we were allying with Montesinos, for each hectare that was taken out of production in Peru, one was added in Colombia.  Now that we’re applying a little bit of pressure on Colombia, Peruvian production is coming back up.  And of course our covert involvement in these societies damages our relations with them over the long term.
Alfred McCoy in wiki

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