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NorthReport

Is Clinton being under FBI investigation starting to become as big a problem for the Democrats as Cruz's being born in Canada has become for the GOP? Sanders is not touching it but Trump sure as hell will and already Trump's attacks on Bill Clinton's issues with women has had a serious impact on Bill's popularity.

NorthReport

According to Ann Selzer it is neck and neck in Iowa for the Democrats 45% to 42% for Hillary.

monty1

NorthReport wrote:

Is Clinton being under FBI investigation starting to become as big a problem for the Democrats as Cruz's being born in Canada has become for the GOP? Sanders is not touching it but Trump sure as hell will and already Trump's attacks on Bill Clinton's issues with women has had a serious impact on Bill's popularity.

I don't read their politics that way at all. The only ones who take the email charges seriously against Clinton are rabid righties who would never support her anyway. And likewise for Cruz, there's nobody who will turn against him on the question of being Canadian because his support is only rabid right non-thinkers anyway. 

What will probably make the biggest difference in whether Clinton makes it all the way is whether the R's can get their ducks in a row and make Rubia their man. Then I would say that Rubio goes all the way.

The most important attribute for a candidate in US politics is good looks. That's nearly as true for politics in many countries and the Conservatives knew that in our election. Never bet against the guy with good looks.

NDPP

George Soros, Haim Saban Give $12 M To Clinton Campaign

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/02/01/448196/George-Soros-Hillary-Cli...

"Clinton has written a letter to Saban pledging to speak out publicly against the BDS campaign aimed at Israel."

NorthReport

Sanders was about 16% behind Clinton in the December polls and now the latest Des Moines Register poll shows him only 3% behind. That is a remarkable narrowing of the gap for Sanders. Even if Sanders doesn't get the most votes tonite he will still be very much in the game.

NorthReport

Sanders has the lead in latest poll for Iowa

Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democrati...

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  • Iowa entrance polls:

Clinton: 50%

Sanders: 44%

O'Malley: 3%

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Actual Votes

Clinton: 53%

Sanders: 46%

O'Malley 1%

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Clinton 53%

Sanders 47%

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Bernie Sanders promises to fight to the convention

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-promises-to-fight-to-the-conv...

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Clinton 52%

Sanders 48%

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So close! 

Sanders was 18% behind Clinton in December.

Clinton 51%

Sanders 48%

O'Malley 1%

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Clinton 51%

Sanders 49%

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Regardless of final results superb showing by Sanders tonite.

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Rumours that O'Malley will bail tonite.

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Clinton 50% 

Sanders 49%

 

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Obviously it is a tie in Iowa which is huge for Sanders

Will O'Malley supporters move over to Bernie now?

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82% of Democratic Caucus goers in Iowa feel Sanders is more honest than Clinton

monty1

The final for the Dems.

Clinton 701

Sanders 697

So close that there's lots of room for speculating on some cheathing going on for Clinton. Considering that, according to a lot of the political pundits, the appearance of a win is very important, even though it's really a tie. And everybody should also know that Clinton declared victory with 10% of the vote outstanding.

Other evidence to support that suspicion is that their whole system is corrupted by the establishment. 

NorthReport

A coin-toss broke 6 ties between Clinton and Sanders last nite in Iowa. I wonder what the odds of winning all 6 coin tosses are.

monty1

NorthReport wrote:

A coin-toss broke 6 ties between Clinton and Sanders last nite in Iowa. I wonder what the odds of winning all 6 coin tosses are.

What do you mean? Can you explain that and how they did it?

NorthReport

Sanders may have won the popular vote in Iowa

Missing precinct scrambles to report Sanders won

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucu...

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Hillary Clinton 'Wins' Iowa Caucus By 0.2% With All Precincts Reporting

https://www.rt.com/usa/331039-final-democratic-clinton-sanders/

"...There were also six instances where a coin was tossed to determine the Iowa winner, with Clinton winning all six. Iowa's Secretary of State Paul Pate tweeted that he had received complaints of voter fraud in the caucuses, but cautioned Iowans that the meetings are not official elections and are up to each party.

The Sanders campaign is mulling requesting a recount."

monty1

NorthReport wrote:

A coin-toss broke 6 ties between Clinton and Sanders last nite in Iowa. I wonder what the odds of winning all 6 coin tosses are.

Odds are 1:64

NDPP

The ability to overcome all odds. It's what America stands for...

monty1

NorthReport wrote:

I agree with this but apart from the right-wing yahoos at Politico, etc. not many are saying this. Does Clinton have that much control over the  ainstream press

Bernie Sanders Won Last Night's Democratic Debate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-astore/bernie-sanders-won-last-n_b...

That makes it sound like Clinton has to have control over the MSM. She doesn't, they already have their own agenda and it's solid Clinton of course. 

NorthReport

I agree with this but apart from the right-wing yahoos at Politico, etc. not many are saying this. Does Clinton have that much control over the mainstream press

Bernie Sanders Won Last Night's Democratic Debate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-astore/bernie-sanders-won-last-n_b...

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monty1 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

I agree with this but apart from the right-wing yahoos at Politico, etc. not many are saying this. Does Clinton have that much control over the  ainstream press

Bernie Sanders Won Last Night's Democratic Debate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-astore/bernie-sanders-won-last-n_b...

That makes it sound like Clinton has to have control over the MSM. She doesn't, they already have their own agenda and it's solid Clinton of course. 

You seem to have inverted the roles. Clinton is the puppet of the ruling American oligarchy including its corporate controlled and tightly held MSM.

monty1

kropotkin1951 wrote:

monty1 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

I agree with this but apart from the right-wing yahoos at Politico, etc. not many are saying this. Does Clinton have that much control over the  ainstream press

Bernie Sanders Won Last Night's Democratic Debate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-astore/bernie-sanders-won-last-n_b...

That makes it sound like Clinton has to have control over the MSM. She doesn't, they already have their own agenda and it's solid Clinton of course. 

You seem to have inverted the roles. Clinton is the puppet of the ruling American oligarchy including its corporate controlled and tightly held MSM.

Is the lat line what you are proclaiming or is it what you suggest I'm proclaiming.

IN any case, the MSM has their own agenda which is solid establishment and they don't need Clinton to tell them anything about who to support. They ain't gonna support Sanders. With Trump, the rabid right is frothing at the mouth so much that they would support Trump if they get backed into a corner. Would they  turn to a Dem to support? 

NorthReport

Nice scene right now on CNN with Obama celebrating the the NBA champion Oakland Warriors

NorthReport

Speaking of pictures, does Hillary have a Donald Trump problem?

Hillary Clinton Has a Donald Trump Problem

Trump and Clinton

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/hillary-clinton-has-a-donald-trump-pro...

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The Des Moines Register is correct in calling for the Democrats to release all their voting details in the Iowa Caucuses because imagine the problems down the line if Clinton were to win the nomination by just a few delegates.

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But don't worry, Hillary is progressive!  Laughing

Clinton blasts Wall Street, but still draws millions in contributions

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blasts-wall-street-but-s...

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538 just updated about an hour ago from 96% to 99% Sanders chances of winning NH.

2016 Primary ForecastsThe odds and polls for presidential primaries and caucuses, updated daily.

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UPDATED 6:22 PM EST | FEB 4, 2016

According to our latest polls-plus forecast, Bernie Sanders has a greater than 99% chance of winning the New Hampshire primary.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-h...

NorthReport

Can Bernie close the gap which is presently at 14.9%?

2016 National Democratic Primary

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-pr...

NorthReport

Hillary and Bernie are debating live right now on MSNBC who are live streaming it on their website. 

 

 

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Hillary is a shrewd debater but Sanders is by far the most effective as he has turned the debate in his favour as it is all about the rich against the poor so far.

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NBC/WSJ NH poll

Candidate / Jan 28 / Feb 4 / Change

Sanders 57% / 58% / Up 1%

Clinton 38% / 38% / No Change

 

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Sanders just went on a major rant against all of the free trade agreements including the fact that he was on the picket line against NAFTA. Very powerful.

NorthReport

On the question of what you would do first if elected President Sanders was brilliant once again:

Sanders said he would reform the electoral system to stop the rich from buying the election, and that he would reform the tax system to redistribute the wealth in America.

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Sanders on the Death Penalty: The Government should not be in the business of killing people.

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That was a good debate.

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NATE SILVER 10:55 PM

I’m a bit more cynical, I suppose. As a Michigander, I’m really happy that presidential candidates are visiting and talking about Flint. But the timing is unusual — you don’t usually take off on the Sunday before the New Hampshire primary — and it seems like a way for Clinton to lower the media’s expectations for how well she’ll do on Tuesday.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/msnbc-democratic-debate-presidentia...

 

monty1

The mods got him on the antiwar questions though. Because they knew that he couldn't go antiwar because Americans wouldn't accept it. So Clinton had a fine time telling how she would continue the wars and wouldn't normalize relations with Iran, and all the good talking points that make Clinton so preferable as a president. (sarcasm)

What I want to know is whether the people on this forum will give him a pass for saving his skin? Because ya see, it kinda ties in with my main issue here in Canada a bit.

monty1

The mods got him on the antiwar questions though. Because they knew that he couldn't go antiwar because Americans wouldn't accept it. So Clinton had a fine time telling how she would continue the wars and wouldn't normalize relations with Iran, and all the good talking points that make Clinton so preferable as a president. (sarcasm)

What I want to know is whether the people on this forum will give him a pass for saving his skin? Because ya see, it kinda ties in with my main issue here in Canada a bit.

NorthReport

How many people or what per cent in Congress besides Sanders voted against Bush's Iraq War?

monty1

NorthReport wrote:

How many people or what per cent in Congress besides Sanders voted against Bush's Iraq War?

It passed in the Senate by a vote of 77 to 23, and the House by 296 to 133.

josh

Bernie Sanders has all the upsides and all the downsides of a political outsider. Hillary Clinton has all the upsides and all the downsides of a political insider.

That was the main takeaway from MSNBC's Democratic debate on Thursday, which was the best debate, on either side of the aisle, aired during this presidential cycle. With Martin O'Malley out of the race, it was down to Sanders and Clinton. Both candidates turned in their finest, most contrasting performances of any debate yet — and they offered voters a very clear choice on their different visions of how politics works. 

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/5/10921320/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-deba...

 

mark_alfred

The link is broken due to an extra space at the end, which is rendered as "%C2%A0" at the end of the URL.  It's a frequent occurence when people put links in their posts here, I find.  Anyway, below is a working link (thus without the space at the end):

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/5/10921320/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-debate

NorthReport

Who does Hillary think she is kidding?

Finally we have a politician who is talking about the main issue in our lives.

Bernie's message of corruption and the ripoff by the rich and powerful, and healthcare and education for all, is resonating with a lot of Americans.

Poll: Sanders nearly tied with Clinton nationwide

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268362-sanders-ti...

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