Die Linke's Oskar Lafontaine: "Yes, good evening everyone"

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,646011,00.html

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In the western German state of Saarland, Sunday's election provided a boost to the smaller parties -- the Left Party gained massively and the Green Party looks set to be the spoiler in determining the next government there. The political poker taking place in the state could have broad implications for national politics in Germany.

Left Party leader Oskar Lafontaine only managed to utter four words before the crowd of supporters drowned him out in cheers: "Yes, good evening everyone." The 65-year-old politician was just greeting the crowd, but in fact he was giving them a lot more -- an unprecedented election victory that many even in his own party didn't even believe could happen.

The left-wing party scored 21.3 percent of the vote in elections for the state parliament in Saarland on Sunday -- a result that was 10 times greater than that achieved by the party's predecessor, the Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS), in the state during the last election in 2004. In 2007, the Left Party was created through the merger of the western German WASG party and the eastern German PDS, the successor party to East Germany's Communists.

The party's 2004 result wasn't taken seriously by anyone. But on Sunday, the party rocketed up by 19 points -- an astonishing gain that makes the Left Party the third-strongest force in Saarland after the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and the center-left Social Democrats (SPD). For the first time, the party has the opportunity to be part of a government in a western German state.

It was Oskar Lafontaine who delivered that success and he was feted by supporters Sunday. "Oskar, Oskar, Oskar," they called out, waving red party flags as the Queen song "We Are the Champions" played through the PA. There was no need on Sunday night for Lafontaine to rail against his political competition, against parties he accuses of neglecting the unemployed and cutting their social welfare benefits. Instead he spoke of an "unprecedented victory in the history of German political parties."


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KenS
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Congrats to Die Linke and Oskar.

Are there any more state elections coming u before the federal?

And anyone know how much more depressed the Saar is than the rest of the West- even roughly speaking?

This will give DL traction and a base to work from even if they don't do that well in the federal election.


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Worth mentioning that Lafontaine is the former SPD premier of Saarland, perhaps. 


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"The SPD says it will cooperate with the Left in states but not nationally. They might have perfectly good reasons for that but it's still hard for voters to understand that logic," said Frank Decker, political scientist at Bonn University.

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Last year there was a huge uproar when SPD leaders in another western state, Hesse, tried in vain to form a "red-red" government, but there has been little noise about the party's stance in Saarland and Thuringia.

"A few months ago I'd have said a 'red-red' in a western state would turn into a major issue for the federal election," said Decker. "It's a surprise that it's not. Evidently, no one's afraid of 'red-red' anymore."

It's an open question whether the SPD's current leadership duo of Steinmeier and party chairman Franz Muentefering would accept federal cooperation with the Left at a later date because of their links to Schroeder and animosity toward Lafontaine.

But a new generation of SPD leaders, led by more left-leaning politicians like Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit, could emerge if the party goes into opposition after this month's federal vote. Then cooperation with the Left could be only a matter of time.

Sunday's results also create previously unimagined opportunities for the Greens.

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In Saarland, there are strong signs that an SPD-Left Party-Greens coalition will take power. However, the Greens have not ruled out a coalition with the CDU and the FDP, which would however only have a slim majority in the Saarland state assembly. The hand of the green bride in Saarland will be won by whoever can come up with the largest dowry. To stay in the game, the current Saarland governor, the CDU's Peter Müller, needs to make the Green Party an offer they cannot refuse.

The Green Party's Berlin strategists would prefer to have a coalition with the CDU in one state and with the SPD and the Left Party in another, in order to maintain balance. The party's leadership fears nothing -- not even another term in opposition -- more than a debate about which political camp the Greens belong to. Firstly, because it would tear apart the party, which brings together such disparate elements as far-left environmental activists and centrist eco-yuppies. And secondly, because it would discourage both left-wing and conservative Green voters from going to the polls.

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In Thuringia, part of the former East Germany, the left has 45 of the 88 seats and doesn't need the Greens:

Left Party 27

SPD 18

Greens 6

FDP 7

CDU 30

Total 88

The SPD's leading candidate, Christoph Matschie, has been tirelessly repeating his main condition for a coalition with the Left Party. That coalition should only form, Matschie says, if a Social Democrat is appointed governor -- namely, him. (Well, it could happen, stay tuned.)


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If the SPD doesn't work with Die Linke, it's going to die out.  The party is clearly on a path of long-term decline, and I think a fair amount of those on its right-wing would actually like it to do badly, so they could then push for a merger with the CDU. 

The SPD-failing continually since they armed the Freikorps.  Willi Brandt wouldn't be welcome in Schroeder's party.

My congratulations to Oskar Lafontaine-some people know that left-wing parties are supposed to OPPOSE the right.


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Meh.  If Die Linke absolutely has to co-govern, it should abstain from administering services cuts.  The coalition in Berlin is a bad precedent.


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Regarding Die Linke, I was under the impression that the policy of SPD and all the major parties was effectively a cordon sanitaire - they would all rather do a grand coaltion instead of going into coalition with Die Linke.


Jacob Richter
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That's the SPD's position at the national level, though that may change depending on the dynamics resulting from the recent state elections.


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Here's a link to the 2005 federal German election maps.  I believe these are the List votes (Zweitstimmen/Second Votes).  Adobe SVG-Plugin 3 required.  Provided through the website.

When you get to the site, next to Sachgebiet, click Bundestagswahl 2005.

Next to Merkmal, click either SPD, CDU/CSU, Grüne, FDP, or Die Linke/PDS.

The maps are in German only.

I used Internet Explorer.


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The youngest Left Party deputies in the Thuringian legislature:

Matthias Bärwolff, 23, student, was first elected five years ago as an 18-year-old high school student. At the state convention of his party in March 2009 he stood eighth in elections for the list positions. At age 15 he joined the PDS-Youth, and at age 16 he joined the "Communist Platform" (KPF), a political association within the party favoring orthodox left wing Communist positions. He has also been a member of Erfurt City Council. He continued as a university student studying Geography until 2006 when he switched to Business Administration. He is also a member of the European Anti-Capitalist Left, mainly Trotskyist but not limited to them.

Katharina König, 31, attended grammar school until 1997 in Jena. After a social year in Israel (voluntary service for young people in Germany) at a home for Holocaust survivors, she began a study of Semitic Philology, Islamic Studies, Political Science and Arabic at Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, graduating in 2002. She worked seven years as a social worker and street worker in a youth center in the Evangelical Lutheran congregation in Jena. At the same time, in 2004 she continued her studies at the University of Cooperative Education in Gera in Social Work and got her Masters' degree in 2007.

She was politically active since 1999 in the Action Alliance against the Right (Jena) and before the Iraq War from 2002 in the Jena Peace Alliance. In the 2004 municipal elections she was elected to the City Council for the PDS. In May 2009 she was re-elected and was chairman of the Left Party in Jena. She won eleventh place in the Left Party list, and won a list seat in the legislature.

Susanne Hennig, also 31, was a competitive athlete in speed skating. After graduating in Education at University of Erfurt in 2001, she worked at the PDS Group in the Thuringian legislature until 2004 as a research assistant for education and media. In 2004 at age 26 she was elected to Erfurt City Council, and the same year was elected as the second youngest MPP in the Thuringian state legislature. This year she startled observers by winning the local constituency seat for Erfurt II, defeating the incumbent CDU member.

Katja Wolf at age 33 is a veteran already: she was first elected at age 23, and has sat for 10 years. This year she too won a local seat, in Eisenach, defeating a CDU member.


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Good to see this kind of young energy.  Is there any such thing as a young member of the SPD anymore? 


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Ken Burch wrote:

Good to see this kind of young energy.  Is there any such thing as a young member of the SPD anymore? 

In the Thuringia legislature, one: Peter Metz, 24, a student.

After completing high school in 2003, he did his voluntary year as a nursing assistant, worked another year as a nursing assistant, then began Studies in History and Philosophy. Meanwhile he became Deputy Chair of the Erfurt Young Socialists nine years ago, and ended up in 2004 as Provincial Chair of the Thuringia Young Socialists, which he still was on his election to the legislature this year.


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OK, you've found the last right-wing Social Democrat in Germany under age 50. 

It's a party for bitter, cynical middle-aged hacks who have no desire for life to be any different than it is now.  The SPD no longer has any convictions of any sort.  Therefore, why WOULD anyone who is still young or even anyone who still has hope for changing this world support such a party?

This election will be the SPD's death anyway.


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The SPD was demanding that, as a condition of a coalition with the Left, the SPD should hold the Thuringia premiership . . . and the Left now agrees!


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Wilf Day wrote:

The youngest Left Party deputies in the Thuringian legislature:

Matthias Bärwolff, 23, student, was first elected five years ago as an 18-year-old high school student. At the state convention of his party in March 2009 he stood eighth in elections for the list positions. At age 15 he joined the PDS-Youth, and at age 16 he joined the "Communist Platform" (KPF), a political association within the party favoring orthodox left wing Communist positions. He has also been a member of Erfurt City Council. He continued as a university student studying Geography until 2006 when he switched to Business Administration. He is also a member of the European Anti-Capitalist Left, mainly Trotskyist but not limited to them.

Two things that stand out are his studies and his location: I like his non-stereotypical studies, leftists studying business.  I also know that Erfurt is the place where the SPD approved its epic program of 1891, the template for most Marxist programs since then.

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Katja Wolf at age 33 is a veteran already: she was first elected at age 23, and has sat for 10 years. This year she too won a local seat, in Eisenach, defeating a CDU member.

Eisenach: the birthplace of one of the SPD's founding parties.


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Missing Link: Dissent, Delusion and Discontent

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1842-...

"The point here is not to praise Die Linke - or any political party-unreservedly, but to wonder: where are the prominent Democrats (or in the UK, the Labor bigwigs) with the guts to leave their dysfunctional, corrupted parties and make common cause with the millions of people suffering under political systems now given over entirely to the service of financial elites and war profiteers?

Where are the vote-winning coalitions of the disaffected - ardently calling for social justice and anti-militarism instead of veering off into neo-fascist mlitancy?

There are tens of millions of people across the Western world who are deeply disturbed by the state of modern society--a society whose discontents stem overwhelmingly from the inherent corruption of unjust rule by rapacious, belligerent elites. Yet much of this discontent is being seized upon by rightwing forces--many of them in the pay of those same elites--who redirect this anger toward the most vulnerable in society, very deliberately playing the game of divide and conquer that elites have used to such devastating effect for centuries.."


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Wilf Day wrote:

The SPD was demanding that, as a condition of a coalition with the Left, the SPD should hold the Thuringia premiership . . . and the Left now agrees!

 

Not sure that was a wise bit of strategy to give in on that.  It might have been better to say no, which likely would have made the SPD, out of desperation, join a "grand coalition" with the CDU in Thuringia.  This would probably have infuriated enough of the SPD rank-and-file there that they'd have thrown their support to Die Linke next time. 

The worst thing would be if this SPD governor insisted on forcing Die Linke to carry out right-wing Schroeder-like policies.


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Jacob Richter wrote:
Erfurt is the place where the SPD approved its epic program of 1891, the template for most Marxist programs since then.

It is also the capital of Thuringia, which is likely more relevant to current politics there.


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 Fractured Group of Arguing Lone Wolves

Party one, in the east, is a mainstream party that wants to remain palatable --and therefore a reasonable choice -- to the German middle class voters. Party two, in the west, insists that it is a splinter party with very specific interests. This, its members argue, differentiates them from the Social Democrats (SPD) and the Greens, already well entrenched in the west. However this also limits how popular they can ever be. Polls currently show the Left Party garnering between 6 and 7 percent of the votes in North Rhine-Westphalia.

To prevent the Left Party from looking like a fractured group of bickering subgroups and lone wolves, Gysi has for months been encouraging his party to contain itself. It has been a tricky experiment but at first it had appeared to be bearing fruit.

At the Left Party party convention in June, the two sides diligently stuck to their cease-fire. Gysi took to the podium and held a speech about unity -- a speech for which he was rewarded with a standing ovation. But as the delegates stood and applauded, Diether Dehm, the head of the Left Party in Lower Saxony stood up and hissed, "sit down. you know that every second counts." Dehm is a supporter of Lafontaine and did not want the usurper from the east to get one moment more attention than his own man. At which stage, an annoyed member from out of Brandenburg yelled out, "Shut your mouth, you asshole!"

 


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I quoted that last quote elsewhere, thank you very much.


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