Has The Alt-Right Ever Been Defeated Or Stopped?

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Aristotleded24
Has The Alt-Right Ever Been Defeated Or Stopped?

Lately we have seen the rise of all kinds of alt-right movements gain power. The list is too long. Hungary, the US, Turkey, Brazil, The Phillipines, and more worrying countries, particularly in Western Europe, as indicated by recent EU elections. Are there any places where a rising alt-right tide was not only successfully held back, but the tide was able to turn in the other direction? Are there any examples of alt-right movements having been defeated? Spain seems like a successful example of stemming the tide. What lessons, if any, can Spain teach us?

voice of the damned

Well, FWIW, Marine Le Pen in France was defeated by Macron, the former being broadly akin to alt-right(euroskeptic, anti-immigration, endorsed by Trump), and the latter being a traditional liberal in the European sense of the word. 

Of course, the rise of Le Pen and Macron arguably represented the sidelining of Gaullism(basically Christian Democracy or what we'd call Red Toryism) and socialism by ethnonationalist and ayn-randian upstarts. But in any case, I don't expect the National Front to ever be more successful than they are now. 

voice of the damned

Also, say what you will about the Democrats in the US, but they are not by and large alt-right, and they took the House from the GOP in 2018. 

quizzical

Denmark and Slovakia

voice of the damned

As far as I am aware, there is no significant alt-right party in the Republic Of Ireland. Pretty much still a traditionalist two-party show, Fine Gael and Fianna Fail.

Neither of which is particularly progressive, which gets us to the question: to satisfy the OP's criteria, does the left have to be the winning party in these jurisdictions? Or is it merely that the alt-right has to lose or never enter the game, even if an old-line conservative or liberal party is the victor?

If the latter will suffice, then you can probably list Canada as a no-go zone for the alt-right. I don't see Bernier's outfit doing very well any time in the near future, and Scheer is basically just offering Thatcherite conservativism, with maybe a little more focus on immigrations issues.

  

voice of the damned

And further on the question of definitions...

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Turkey

Are you refering to the Justice And Development Party? Because they've been in power since 2002, long before alt-right had become either a concept or a name. And they're basically just a religious conservative party that has carried over some of the nationalist chest-thumping from Kemalism.

Mutatis mutandis, they probably share a bit in common with the worldview of Trump and Le Pen, but they'd probably exist pretty much in their present form, without those other movements.

Cody87

France (as votd pointed out) and, soon, Canada.

Aristotleded24

Cody87 wrote:
France (as votd pointed out) and, soon, Canada.

France does not count because LePen's party actually made it onto the final ballot. That makes them contenders, and if things get really nasty in France, who knows where that will end up?

Trudeau's re-election in Canada is not an assured thing either. Even if he is re-elected, we may have only bought ourselves some time. This will be Scheer's only election as leader of the Opposition one way or another. If he fails, the Conservatives will replace him, and possibly with someone more capable and who can effectively respond to the threat of Bernier's party from their right flank.

iyraste1313

As free citizens we believe in direct democracy...from AfD Manifesto

This theme is far too simplistic...the Governments named as alt right are a mixed bag of policy, both traditionally left and right.....while AfD e.g. claims to be anti imperialist in nature, the so called leftist NDP is a strong supporter of NATO and our Governments imperialist policies

If in fact you truly believe in counterattacking the so called alt right, perhaps it may be wise to build a real leftist anti imperialist anti capitalist movement in Canada

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In Portland, a few weeks ago, the massed public strength of Antifa forced Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys to flee the streets under police escort.  I'd say that's at least a defeat in one battle.  It's something.

It's not healthy for us to let ourselves believe that the alt-Reich can NEVER be defeated. They're humans-often sniveling, cowardly humans-they're not gods who walk the earth.

They are as beatable as anybody else.